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	<title>Comments on: Soldier of Fortune Gets Refused Classification After All</title>
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		<title>By: BU][ET REMEDY</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2007/10/soldier_of_fortune_gets_refused_classification_after_all/comment-page-1/#comment-18011</link>
		<dc:creator>BU][ET REMEDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What the AUS Version Of SOF3: Payback, is a lode of BULL no blood no gore no nothing, even the physics are cut down. AUSTRALIA Looks like a really BIG (((((LITTLE GIRL)))))) SHAME EVEN NZ HAS THE FULL VERSION. I believe that AUS gameing commision has a personal vendeta with all the Violent games JUST TO PISS PEOPLE OFF. Its got nothing to do with too much violence, EVEN Law And Order has more MORRALY WRONG THING IN EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A GAME IS A FCKN GAME. Get it through your heads,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PATHETIC EXTREMELY PATHETIC &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the AUS Version Of SOF3: Payback, is a lode of BULL no blood no gore no nothing, even the physics are cut down. AUSTRALIA Looks like a really BIG (((((LITTLE GIRL)))))) SHAME EVEN NZ HAS THE FULL VERSION. I believe that AUS gameing commision has a personal vendeta with all the Violent games JUST TO PISS PEOPLE OFF. Its got nothing to do with too much violence, EVEN Law And Order has more MORRALY WRONG THING IN EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.</p>
<p>A GAME IS A FCKN GAME. Get it through your heads,</p>
<p>PATHETIC EXTREMELY PATHETIC </p>
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		<title>By: NEMESIS12</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2007/10/soldier_of_fortune_gets_refused_classification_after_all/comment-page-1/#comment-18010</link>
		<dc:creator>NEMESIS12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nanny state yet again.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When will these OFLC idiots move into the 21st century.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sheesh...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nanny state yet again.</p>
<p>When will these OFLC idiots move into the 21st century.</p>
<p>Sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;aw i just have to buy from overseas or download it i agree with mike way to go OFLC.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aw i just have to buy from overseas or download it i agree with mike way to go OFLC.</p>
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		<title>By: AreYouOffended</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2007/10/soldier_of_fortune_gets_refused_classification_after_all/comment-page-1/#comment-18008</link>
		<dc:creator>AreYouOffended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heres my question: when does ACTUAL WARFARE get banned? Nothing wrong with sending a bunch of kids to ACTUALLY blow off peoples arms, heads, and legs. Digital violence is just too much, but real, government-sanctioned violence is totally acceptable? Why don&#039;t these people who sit around judging video games put their time to better use and try to ban the predecessor to virtual violence; ACTUAL GODDAMNED VIOLENCE. THIS MAKES ME WANT TO GET VIOLENT.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres my question: when does ACTUAL WARFARE get banned? Nothing wrong with sending a bunch of kids to ACTUALLY blow off peoples arms, heads, and legs. Digital violence is just too much, but real, government-sanctioned violence is totally acceptable? Why don&#8217;t these people who sit around judging video games put their time to better use and try to ban the predecessor to virtual violence; ACTUAL GODDAMNED VIOLENCE. THIS MAKES ME WANT TO GET VIOLENT.</p>
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		<title>By: Really Pissed Off Kid.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really Pissed Off Kid.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;-cough- Our government sucks -cough-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I mean John Howard is a fat cry baby, who is most likely going to lose this up comming election. Why ban a game that wont affect them? Oh yeah lets send aussies over to get blown up in Iraq. Yet when aussies over here wanna play a computer game which is almost the same if not worst its banned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ban the game? &lt;br /&gt;
Ban our soldiers from fighting over there than.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We lose in game and think -Oh well lets restart- Aussies in Iraq get shot, its game over.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Theres more things out there in the real world that are more dangerous yet they pick on a defenseless game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My opinion, dont ban it. Its our choice what we eat, watch, do, But not what we can play? Geez its less important than watching Saw/Hostel they are extremely graphic. Yet they tell us &quot;You cant play a game that shoots people and their leg falls off&quot; =(!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ps Torrents for the world?!~!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-cough- Our government sucks -cough-</p>
<p>I mean John Howard is a fat cry baby, who is most likely going to lose this up comming election. Why ban a game that wont affect them? Oh yeah lets send aussies over to get blown up in Iraq. Yet when aussies over here wanna play a computer game which is almost the same if not worst its banned.</p>
<p>Ban the game? <br />
Ban our soldiers from fighting over there than.</p>
<p>We lose in game and think -Oh well lets restart- Aussies in Iraq get shot, its game over.</p>
<p>Theres more things out there in the real world that are more dangerous yet they pick on a defenseless game.</p>
<p>My opinion, dont ban it. Its our choice what we eat, watch, do, But not what we can play? Geez its less important than watching Saw/Hostel they are extremely graphic. Yet they tell us &#8220;You cant play a game that shoots people and their leg falls off&#8221; =(!</p>
<p>Ps Torrents for the world?!~!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why blame the OFLC? Obviously it doesn&#039;t fit into the MA15 rating, the OFLC has very strict bounds it can allow media to be rated within and when it comes to games those bound are even tighter, if a game requires a rating above MA15 the only action they can take is to ban it, no to do so would be an even greater failing of the OFLC.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t whinge about the OFLC whinge to your state and federal government.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why blame the OFLC? Obviously it doesn&#8217;t fit into the MA15 rating, the OFLC has very strict bounds it can allow media to be rated within and when it comes to games those bound are even tighter, if a game requires a rating above MA15 the only action they can take is to ban it, no to do so would be an even greater failing of the OFLC.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t whinge about the OFLC whinge to your state and federal government.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We bloody well get bombarded with propaganda filled news which incorporates war on a daily basis. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OFLC: You cant stop us downloading, importing, burning, p2ping...one way or another we can get any game we desire. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I laugh at their ignorance towards the ever increasing tech-savvy cult manifesting within Australia. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bloody well get bombarded with propaganda filled news which incorporates war on a daily basis. </p>
<p>OFLC: You cant stop us downloading, importing, burning, p2ping&#8230;one way or another we can get any game we desire. </p>
<p>I laugh at their ignorance towards the ever increasing tech-savvy cult manifesting within Australia. </p>
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		<title>By: Szymon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Szymon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While blood effects in SoF appear gratuitous, SoF does not depict Mario molesting Luigi nor is it remotely aimed at little children. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SoF appears to target a similar demographic to what slasher or horror/comedy films are aimed at and such films often attract (R) ratings. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A significant portion of Australian game players are adults who grew up with video games (myself included) and the OFLC allows (R) rated film content. As such there is no valid reason why (R) rated games are banned in Australia. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Banning games because they fall on the wrong side of (M15+) will also needlessly promote piracy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The arguement, or excuse, that interactivity of games makes the player an active participant in on screen violence while movie viewers are passive (hence are allowed more violent content) is mute. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What matters is people&#039;s emotional involvement with what they see on screen - game players and film viewers alike. Watching and cheering on a &#039;hero&#039; slicing through enemies in a film constitutes emotional involvement just as seeing  one&#039;s hero character clock up a hundred kills in a FPS.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While blood effects in SoF appear gratuitous, SoF does not depict Mario molesting Luigi nor is it remotely aimed at little children. </p>
<p>SoF appears to target a similar demographic to what slasher or horror/comedy films are aimed at and such films often attract (R) ratings. </p>
<p>A significant portion of Australian game players are adults who grew up with video games (myself included) and the OFLC allows (R) rated film content. As such there is no valid reason why (R) rated games are banned in Australia. </p>
<p>Banning games because they fall on the wrong side of (M15+) will also needlessly promote piracy.</p>
<p>The arguement, or excuse, that interactivity of games makes the player an active participant in on screen violence while movie viewers are passive (hence are allowed more violent content) is mute. </p>
<p>What matters is people&#8217;s emotional involvement with what they see on screen &#8211; game players and film viewers alike. Watching and cheering on a &#8216;hero&#8217; slicing through enemies in a film constitutes emotional involvement just as seeing  one&#8217;s hero character clock up a hundred kills in a FPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemesis12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemesis12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lemme see here,,they ban a &quot;violent game&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s check the cinemas, shall we?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rambo 4 - wont be banned&lt;br /&gt;
Hostel: Loads of blood and gore:Not banned&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Saw&quot; movies: not banned&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Australia is fast becoming the nanny state: no firearms, no firecrackers, no fireworks, no air rifles, ban trans fats, ban smoking, ban drinking, ban commercials that &quot;might&quot; be offensive to someone(damned if we know who..)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why doesnt this country have an R rating so we ADULTS can play what we want without the government sticking its nose in?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Soon it will be illegal to buy a puppy ion a pet store.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme see here,,they ban a &#8220;violent game&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s check the cinemas, shall we?</p>
<p>Rambo 4 &#8211; wont be banned<br />
Hostel: Loads of blood and gore:Not banned<br />
&#8220;Saw&#8221; movies: not banned</p>
<p>Australia is fast becoming the nanny state: no firearms, no firecrackers, no fireworks, no air rifles, ban trans fats, ban smoking, ban drinking, ban commercials that &#8220;might&#8221; be offensive to someone(damned if we know who..)</p>
<p>Why doesnt this country have an R rating so we ADULTS can play what we want without the government sticking its nose in?</p>
<p>Soon it will be illegal to buy a puppy ion a pet store.</p>
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		<title>By: Albinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is it that the prior two versions were allowed, despite similar ability to blow off limbs from the enemy? Yet another example of inconsistency from the OFLC, and ensuring the domestic retail market loses sales once again (despite the average age of a gamer being well over 20 these days). The cynic in me can&#039;t help but think the government is pandering to the religious right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the prior two versions were allowed, despite similar ability to blow off limbs from the enemy? Yet another example of inconsistency from the OFLC, and ensuring the domestic retail market loses sales once again (despite the average age of a gamer being well over 20 these days). The cynic in me can&#8217;t help but think the government is pandering to the religious right.</p>
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