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	<title>Comments on: Why Michael Atkinson&#8217;s Opposal Of An R18+ Rating For Games Does Bugger All To Protect Kids, Promotes Crime</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should email the link to this directly to him like I have as form of protest.  Hopefully some are in his state so he&#039;ll possible start to be concerned about re-election.
http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/ministers.php?id=7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should email the link to this directly to him like I have as form of protest.  Hopefully some are in his state so he&#8217;ll possible start to be concerned about re-election.<br />
<a href="http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/ministers.php?id=7" rel="nofollow">http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/ministers.php?id=7</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blinky Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blinky Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man micheal atkinson is a retard, so many good games have been baned cause of him, good agument by who ever wrote this article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man micheal atkinson is a retard, so many good games have been baned cause of him, good agument by who ever wrote this article</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Sampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a load of bull, i have played games like &quot;fallout 3&quot;, &quot;Gears of War&quot; both of which have more violent content than a game like left 4 dead 1. 

MAKE SURE THAT THE KID IS OVER 18..they are doing it with alcohol

seriously?!?! and arn&#039;t we still in a reccession..(NOTE: L42 was GAME OF THE YEAR!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a load of bull, i have played games like &#8220;fallout 3&#8243;, &#8220;Gears of War&#8221; both of which have more violent content than a game like left 4 dead 1. </p>
<p>MAKE SURE THAT THE KID IS OVER 18..they are doing it with alcohol</p>
<p>seriously?!?! and arn&#8217;t we still in a reccession..(NOTE: L42 was GAME OF THE YEAR!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Hikikomori-Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2008/03/why_michael_atkinsons_opposal_of_r18_does_bugger_all_to_protect_kids_promotes_crime/comment-page-2/#comment-14298</link>
		<dc:creator>Hikikomori-Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[Sorry if this was mentioned, I didn&#039;t read all comments]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Isn&#039;t an R rating on games just like the 18+ rating us Aussies have on buying alcohol? When kids get beer and get drunk, no one blames the alcho shop for selling the parents the beer which they gave their kids, they blame the parents for giving their kids beer, BUT, when a parent buys their kid the MA15+ rated GTA4, then has a sissy fit over Mr. Belic killing everyone, whrre do they go to vent their anger? That&#039;s right, they go straight to the source of the game, the manufacturer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Sorry if this was mentioned, I didn't read all comments]</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t an R rating on games just like the 18+ rating us Aussies have on buying alcohol? When kids get beer and get drunk, no one blames the alcho shop for selling the parents the beer which they gave their kids, they blame the parents for giving their kids beer, BUT, when a parent buys their kid the MA15+ rated GTA4, then has a sissy fit over Mr. Belic killing everyone, whrre do they go to vent their anger? That&#8217;s right, they go straight to the source of the game, the manufacturer.</p>
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		<title>By: Volumetric</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2008/03/why_michael_atkinsons_opposal_of_r18_does_bugger_all_to_protect_kids_promotes_crime/comment-page-2/#comment-14297</link>
		<dc:creator>Volumetric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;god bless Michael Atkinson, soon with his help i will be able to leave my kids in front of the computer for hours (days?) at a time! My parental responsibilities could be completely dissolved by this man! With no R rating for games, and his unstoppable crusade to rid the internet of all references to &#039;muffins&#039; and &#039;dick smith&#039; i can forget about the kids, sit back with a beer, and peruse the 3 or 4 pages of &#039;massage&#039; adds in my cities most popular newspaper. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god bless Michael Atkinson, soon with his help i will be able to leave my kids in front of the computer for hours (days?) at a time! My parental responsibilities could be completely dissolved by this man! With no R rating for games, and his unstoppable crusade to rid the internet of all references to &#8216;muffins&#8217; and &#8216;dick smith&#8217; i can forget about the kids, sit back with a beer, and peruse the 3 or 4 pages of &#8216;massage&#8217; adds in my cities most popular newspaper. </p>
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		<title>By: ownd</title>
		<link>http://www.kotaku.com.au/2008/03/why_michael_atkinsons_opposal_of_r18_does_bugger_all_to_protect_kids_promotes_crime/comment-page-2/#comment-14296</link>
		<dc:creator>ownd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It doesn&#039;t make sense that the average gamer in Australia is 28 and there is no r18+ rating.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Statistics say it all:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Top 10 PLayer Facts &lt;br /&gt;
The average age of gamers is 28 years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
60% of players are male. 40% are female.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
8% of gamers are seniors (over 60 years).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Women and older Australians are the fastest growing audiences for interactive games.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
35% of gamers are parents.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
60% of gamers play for up to an hour at a time a few times a week.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
73% of parents say that games help their children learn about technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Playing computer and video games does not compete with non-media and outdoor leisure activities. Instead it competes with other media such as TV, film and music.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Research by the Australian government shows Australians are confused about the difference between the M and MA15+ classifications.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
88% of Australians support a common classification system for games and films. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ieaa.com.au/research/top_10_player_facts.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ieaa.com.au/research/top_10_player_facts.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t make sense that the average gamer in Australia is 28 and there is no r18+ rating.</p>
<p>Statistics say it all:</p>
<p>
Top 10 PLayer Facts <br />
The average age of gamers is 28 years.</p>
<p>
60% of players are male. 40% are female.</p>
<p>
8% of gamers are seniors (over 60 years).</p>
<p>
Women and older Australians are the fastest growing audiences for interactive games.</p>
<p>
35% of gamers are parents.</p>
<p>
60% of gamers play for up to an hour at a time a few times a week.</p>
<p>
73% of parents say that games help their children learn about technology.</p>
<p>
Playing computer and video games does not compete with non-media and outdoor leisure activities. Instead it competes with other media such as TV, film and music.</p>
<p>
Research by the Australian government shows Australians are confused about the difference between the M and MA15+ classifications.</p>
<p>
88% of Australians support a common classification system for games and films. </p>
<p>
Link: <a href="http://www.ieaa.com.au/research/top_10_player_facts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ieaa.com.au/research/top_10_player_facts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SirNoob</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirNoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is the most retarded thing ever, its also the first time i have ever spoken up about anything. but why on earth cant we get the rating system, VIOLENT GAMES DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENT PEOPLE!!! i have been playing Violent games since my parents got me them knowing full well what they where (i was like 7) and i&#039;m now 18 almost 19 and i&#039;m pretty sure i&#039;m not a violent person nor is my brother or any mates that played the same games for just as long,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@PurpleSfinx,&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;adults in Australia aren&#039;t mature enough to have default uncensored Internet access&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You referring to that deep packet search that Labor wants to introduce in Australia?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Daniel Purvis,&lt;br /&gt;
 i know what you mean about ManHunt vs Saw thing i cant watch movies like Saw it makes me feel really sick, i also hired Manhunt before it was banned played it for 20mins and gave up on it.. games that are Violent just to be Violent fail badly&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This whole thing on no R18 is really making me pissed off and its only for 1 Game (GTAIV) i really don&#039;t want to pay $120 for a &quot;Nurfed&quot; version&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most retarded thing ever, its also the first time i have ever spoken up about anything. but why on earth cant we get the rating system, VIOLENT GAMES DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENT PEOPLE!!! i have been playing Violent games since my parents got me them knowing full well what they where (i was like 7) and i&#8217;m now 18 almost 19 and i&#8217;m pretty sure i&#8217;m not a violent person nor is my brother or any mates that played the same games for just as long,</p>
<p>@PurpleSfinx,<br />
&#8220;adults in Australia aren&#8217;t mature enough to have default uncensored Internet access&#8221;</p>
<p>You referring to that deep packet search that Labor wants to introduce in Australia?</p>
<p>@Daniel Purvis,<br />
 i know what you mean about ManHunt vs Saw thing i cant watch movies like Saw it makes me feel really sick, i also hired Manhunt before it was banned played it for 20mins and gave up on it.. games that are Violent just to be Violent fail badly</p>
<p>This whole thing on no R18 is really making me pissed off and its only for 1 Game (GTAIV) i really don&#8217;t want to pay $120 for a &#8220;Nurfed&#8221; version</p>
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		<title>By: Darryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The thing is, kids are buying MA15+ games right now, games where people explode, get shot, bled and die. At least with an R18+ rating, the classifications board would not be forced into either giving borderline games an MA15+ rating or banning them and wasting the time of publishers and consumers.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why is it THIS point that the opposers never acknowledge! This point, I believe, is the core logical arguement for R18+ classification.&lt;br /&gt;
The example of this are games like Rainbow Six, Gears of War and Call of Duty 4. They SHOULD BE R18+!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Honestly, what do we have to do to get the opposers to stop ignoring this point!?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The thing is, kids are buying MA15+ games right now, games where people explode, get shot, bled and die. At least with an R18+ rating, the classifications board would not be forced into either giving borderline games an MA15+ rating or banning them and wasting the time of publishers and consumers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it THIS point that the opposers never acknowledge! This point, I believe, is the core logical arguement for R18+ classification.<br />
The example of this are games like Rainbow Six, Gears of War and Call of Duty 4. They SHOULD BE R18+!</p>
<p>Honestly, what do we have to do to get the opposers to stop ignoring this point!?</p>
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		<title>By: DONAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;I understand that the lack of an R18+ classification denies some adults the chance to play some games, however, the need to keep potentially harmful material away from children is far more important.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d come up with a rebuttal, but Mark Twain beat me to it:&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Censorship is telling a man he can&#039;t have a steak just because a baby can&#039;t chew it &quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I understand that the lack of an R18+ classification denies some adults the chance to play some games, however, the need to keep potentially harmful material away from children is far more important.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d come up with a rebuttal, but Mark Twain beat me to it:<br />
&#8220;Censorship is telling a man he can&#8217;t have a steak just because a baby can&#8217;t chew it &#8220;</p>
<p></p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To think my grand father fought in WWII, and my father in Vietnam, to keep people like him out of this country.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want my freedom, freedom of Choice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think my grand father fought in WWII, and my father in Vietnam, to keep people like him out of this country.</p>
<p>I want my freedom, freedom of Choice.</p>
<p></p>
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