
Yesterday, South Australian Attorney-General and R18+ opponent Michael Atkinson wrote to the Adelaide Advertiser about his favourite topic. A Kotaku reader contacted me earlier today with his own response. Read them both beyond the jump.
Here’s Atkinson’s letter to the Advertiser:
Face the real world
A Queensland letter writer (The Advertiser, 7/3/09) claims that democracy is at an end because I, as Attorney-General, will not agree to an R18+ category for interactive computer games; that “every other state AG is against him”; and the only way to bring back democracy is to vote me out at the next election.
It is true that I am opposed to an R18+ category for interactive games, but I am one of at least four Attorneys so opposed.
I welcome a challenge in my electorate of Croydon at the next general election on this issue.
Among my constituents are hundreds of refugees who are trying to find lodgings for the family, gain employment and sponsor relatives from the old country.
Their vote is hardly likely to hinge on the “right” to score gamer points on the computer screen by running down and killing pedestrians on the pavement, raping a mother and her two daughters, blowing onself up in a market, cutting people in half with large calibre shells, injecting drugs to win an athletics event or killing a prostitute to recover the fee one just paid her (Welcome to the world of R18+ computer games).
Those of my constituents who are refugees have been subjected to the practical instead of the virtual suffering that R18+ nerds seek to inflict for their gratification on the computer screen.MICHAEL ATKINSON,
Attorney-General, Adelaide.
And here’s a response from Kotaku reader – and 57-year-old grandparent – Terry O’Shanassy:
Face the real world yourself, Mr. Atkinson!
Recently S.A. Attorney-General Michael Atkinson wrote a diatribe of misinformation in support of his stance against the extension of the R18+ Classification category to video games. It was published as a “Letter to the Editor” in the Adelaide Advertiser on 10th March, 2009, under the title “Face the Real World”.Firstly, Mr. Atkinson claims that there are four other Attorneys-General who endorse his opposition to the measure. In the past, Mr. Atkinson has even gone so far as to claim that he’s been asked by other Attorneys-General to be the ‘spokesman’ in relation to the matter. Not so, Mr. Atkinson. Fact of the matter is that, currently, both the Victorian and the A.C.T. Attorneys-General have publicly expressed ‘in principle’ support for the measure, and no other Attorney-General apart from yourself has publicly stated any position whatsoever in this matter.
Next, Mr. Atkinson goes on to suggest that the matter is one which is unimportant to the ‘refugee’ voters within his constituency, and that he is happy to face an election on the matter to have his stance judged by his constituents. Excuse me, Mr. Atkinson, but I’d have thought your responsibility in your role as Attorney-General was to ALL the people in your State, not just to your supporters amongst your own constituency.
Worst of all, though, Mr. Atkinson utterly misrepresents the entire debate regarding the extension of R18+ classification to video games. He describes the supporters of such a move as ‘R18+ nerds’ who “seek to inflict their gratification on the computer screen” by “running down and killing pedestrians on the pavement, raping a mother and her two daughters, blowing oneself up in a market, cutting people in half with large calibre shells, injecting drugs to win an athletic event, or killing a prostitute to recover the fee one just paid her.” Mr. Atkinson justifies his stance, and has done so for a long time now, with the contention that he is concerned with “protecting the children”.
There are some serious flaws with Mr. Atkinson’s line of argument. For starters, of the examples of offensive content he has mentioned, most would fall within the allowable scope of our current classification system for the ‘MA15+’ classification rating. One would be “Refused Classification” even if the R18+ rating was applied to video games as well as to movies and other media. His mention of a game in which the objective is (in his words) “raping a mother and her two daughters” relates to a videogame title made only for the Japanese marketplace, not intended for distribution anywhere in the world other than Japan, and of a nature which would be ‘Refused Classification’ under our classification system no matter what classification rating it was submitted to occupy. Mention of it in Mr. Atkinson’s missive is an exercise in outright deceit!
Another major flaw in Mr. Atkinson’s line of argument is that ‘video gamers’ aren’t nowadays simply children who are ‘seeking gratification’ by accumulating points in a video game. A third is his continued contention that the ‘interactivity’ of video games makes them a more ‘high risk’ form of media than others.
Let’s counter those claims. To begin with, research has demonstrated that the ‘average gamer’ in this country is not a kid playing arcade-style shoot-em-ups to accumulate ‘points’. It has been conclusively demonstrated that the ‘average gamer’ is an adult in his or her late 20s. The video gaming community has matured. 8% or more of that community is 60+ yrs of age. We’re really talking about an activity which is predominately engaged in by mature adults. Those mature adults are not, I might add, simply playing computer games which are simplistic arcade-style shoot-em-ups. Mr. Atkinson is erroneous if he thinks so. Computers and game consoles alike have become quite sophisticated technologically, allowing the production of game titles which are genuinely ‘literary’ in style. Which allow the exploration of themes, and which can be (and sometimes are) used as the basis of literary appreciation and education. Come to grips with it, please Mr. Atkinson. It’s a new world out there, and you don’t seem to be aware of it!
The contention that the ‘interactivity’ of video games makes them ‘trainers’ for anti-social behaviour and even causes anti-social behaviour is an unsupportable one. No study whatsoever has demonstrated this contention to be a correct one. Please don’t insult our intelligence by making claims which simply aren’t true. It might be a ‘popular’ misconception, but its popularity doesn’t lend it any credence nevertheless.
Most alarming of all, however, is the erroneous contention that the absence of an R18+ classification for video games somehow “protects children” by removing their potential exposure to adult material. The classification system and mechanisms we currently have in place and in effect DOES NOT protect children by placing strongly adult-oriented materials into an R18+ classification. Treatment of those strongly adult-oriented themes currently gets placed into the MA15+ classification rating. It does so for ALL forms of media. It is fundamentally and profoundly WRONG to suggest that not having an R18+ classification for games ‘protects’ children.
The truth is that our current systems and mechanisms of content classification are flawed, and they have not been reviewed for some years now. Rather than being a genuinely informative ‘guide’ for parents to follow when assessing content which is suitable or otherwise for their children, our content classification system places “strongly adult themed” content into a classification ranking which parents all too often miscomprehend as meaning “suitable for 15 and over age group”. The only content we deem to be “adults only” is the extreme. The most explicit of sexual depictions. The explicit and extended treatment of gory and/or ghoulish content.
It’s also true that the mature-minded video gaming community is well aware of just how flawed our system of classification is. Rather than simply calling for “more titties and blood” in video games our gaming community is really calling for a revamp of the ratings classification system in this country. For a system which genuinely informs parents of the content their children gain access to. For an ‘adult’ classification which is used and reflects truly ‘adult’ content.
The next meeting of the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General is due to be held next month sometime. The matter of video game censorship classification is scheduled to be raised again at that meeting. The previous such meeting called for a ‘Discussion paper’ to be tabled for consideration. We can only hope that Discussion paper treats the matter with the mature
consideration it deserves, and that Mr. Atkinson will adopt a ‘mature’ approach to it. Any alteration to the Classifications system requires the unanimous support of all Attorneys-General.It’s difficult to hold out hope though. In a recent missive to Gamespot Australia, Mr. Atkinson not only betrayed his utter misunderstanding of the call for a genuine R18+ classification rating for video games here in Australia. He also bewailed his own children’s video gaming activities as a “physical and emotional obsession”. Goodness me, Mr. Atkinson. I’ve seen a lot of video gaming over a lifetime, but I’ve not often seen it become such an alarming pastime for people. Is there perhaps something amiss in your household, and you’re projecting your floundering ability to deal with it onto me? How about attend to your own hearth. Mine’s fine!
Like many other ‘video gamers’ I deplore the current situation, whereby parents are misled into thinking that “strongly adult” content is somehow suitable for all persons 15 and over. It doesn’t really matter to me if the interaction with the media is active or passive. If strongly adult themes are explored in an adult-oriented mature fashion then the content should be denoted as such. The labelling of it with an ‘MA15+’ rating does not have that impact and Mr. Atkinson has, on numerous occasions in the past, acknowledged the fact.
By continuing his rather obstinate opposition to change, Mr. Atkinson is not, in actuality, “protecting the children”. He is endorsing the very system which lends itself to making adult content already available to them!
Terry O’Shanassy
(Terry is a 57 year old grandparent of 8, a number of whom are young video gamers. He lists video gaming as one of his leisure activities alongside fishing, camping, and cycling.)
So, readers, what are your thoughts on the debate? Has Terry got everything covered or is there some validity to Atkinson’s argument?

















Rib
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 7:27 PMThanks Terry for bringing this to light for the rest of the populace that so far has missed this battle. I dont have a exact reference on hand but there was a survey done where an alamring number of parents didn’t even know that there was a lack of an R18+ in Australia and almost every one of them said yes when they asked would they like to see it implemented.
A very good piece, mate, you should run for AG.
Old_Skool_Gamer
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 7:56 PM@ plmko
I never said anything about us living in a society where there’s no binge drinkers or overweight kids. Although it would be nice I know that it’ll never happen.
I also know that there’s always going to be sales assistants and parents that are either irresponsible or just don’t give a shit as well as unstable adults. What I would like to see happen is for the R18+ rating to be introduced but if these idiots are caught selling/buying an inappropriate game to/for a minor that they be held accountable. Should the rest of us have to do without just because of a few idiots.
Also, yes There are binge drinkers and fat kids but they haven’t banned alcohol or junk food.
Michael
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 9:10 PMThe thing is, games that should be put as R18+ get slightly modified and go into the MA15+ basket, or don’t get modified at all.
Surely if we point this out to M.A., he may be more on our side
Benjamin Djung
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 10:24 PMLet’s hope Atkinson’s electorate take this issue into account in the next election as clearly, his decision doesn’t only affect his electorate but the whole nation!
Jar Jar Blinks
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 11:45 PMplmko,
You didn’t honestly think that by opening your comment with a quotation from Princess Amidala you would be taken seriously, did you?
May the farce be with you.
Lost In Translation
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 12:00 AMNicely written letter, Atkinson doesn’t seem to understand the need for a 18+ rating. How does someone so blind come into his position?
@plmko
You are constantly making pointless and uninformed comments, find another site to troll.
David Fowles
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:44 AMIf people are interested, I believe the letter he is responding to is the one I sent to the advertiser via the internet after reading about how he refuses to release the discussion paper as a means, I believe, to get his own way simply by stalling the process forever. I started writing him an angry letter then decided the best thing to do was to contact South Australian newspapers instead, I encourage anyone else to do the same.
This was the letter in its entirety, I have not seen what was actually published.
“I am disgusted that South Australia’s Michael Atkinson continues to prevent democratic process in Australia on ratings systems reform, because he knows that by deliberately dragging chain he can get his way – the way of no reform at all – when every other state AG and a majority of informed citizens are against him.
I can only hope that the people of South Australia return democracy to the whole country via the only avenue he is giving us – by voting him out.
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/03/…ing-r18-rating “
BrendanT
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 6:56 AMNice letter Terry. To be honest though, Atkinson’s letter shouldn’t be dignified with a rebuttal… or rather it doesn’t need to be. It looks bad enough as it is.
plmko: Care to connect your own dots? Your argument about childhood binge drinking and obesity makes no sense.
Gladice
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 9:09 AMA great read, good on you Terry.
thy_dungeonman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 9:17 AMTheir vote is hardly likely to hinge on the “right” to score gamer points on the computer screen by running down and killing pedestrians on the pavement, blowing onself up in a market, cutting people in half with large calibre shells or killing a prostitute to recover the fee one just paid her (Welcome to the world of MA15+ computer games).
There fixed that for you
Nargath
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 10:12 AMThe scary thing is, Atkinson’s comment is hauntingly similar to comments made by one Jack Thompson, the most infamous of the anti-gaming community in the States.
While Thompson never REALLY caused any direct harm, Atkinson is in a position where he can, and has been, by refusing at least a considerable look at the classifications.
And Atkinson seems to be “getting worse”, the more comments he makes about the subject. Previously he has just commented on that he thinks it will endanger children, without too much description in to what he thinks. But with this post, he is showing just how out of left field his thoughts are on the subject, again very similar to the way Thompson came to the fore surrounding the Hot Coffee bruhaha.
Hopefully something will cause Atkinson to at least look in to the matter personally, rather than relying on generalised social rhetoric concerning gaming, but I am not holding my breath.
mikezombie777
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 11:24 AMYou can describe Atkinson in one word: Dogmatic
The way he cherry picks certain gaming elements and writes about them as though the key focus of all adult games is limited only to these six examples, makes him look extremely ignorant. He then proceeds to use them to peddle his view in a very sensationalist manner which really does mirror Jack Thompson in every way. if you focus on HOW he conveys his view, you really can’t help but come to the conclusion that he is Australia’s Jack Thompson in a position of power.
What I find most astounding though is that he goes on to generalize and misrepresent supporters of an R18+ rating by calling them nerds and basically dismissing them because he knows if he misrepresents the argument to the SA population he will be voted in once again. What the hell do refugee’s have to do with any of this? It’s disgusting how condescending and immature he is towards those who disagree with him. He has little to no respect for gamers. Worst of all he can’t even convey his view in a mature, professional way.
it’s not only ‘R18+ nerds’ who are in favor of it, a multi-billion dollar industry is in favor of it. Fact is Atkinson and the people of South Australia who keep voting for him are the minority. The rest of the country is in support of the measure. It’s about time he stopped pissing on democracy and gave the people what they want. Taking advantage of the fact your in a position of power and have the ability to force your personal views upon everybody is not democracy. It’s called a dictatorship. But just take a look at the state of South Australia. It’s arguably the state which offers the least quality of life, the weakest local economy, the worst local government and the most conservative/regressive place in the country. I should know, I moved out of the place 4 years ago.
meshuggahner
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 12:05 PMGreat letter Terry!
Atkinson probably sees this as his legacy and will fight tooth and nail to be remembered for something – the more media attention he generates for himself the more he enjoys it.
Reality is though – its not a matter of IF we get an R18+ classification, its a matter of WHEN. He is fighting a losing battle, unfortunately it may take until he is removed from office for the battle to be lost.
Terry O'Shanassy
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM@ Ben
“I really hope that Terry actually has his letter published by The Advertiser, or sends it to Mr Atkinson, or basically puts it somewhere else besides Kotaku, where he is preaching to the choir.”
I buzzed a copy to the Adelaide Advertiser as a courtesy, but I wouldn’t hold any hope that it’d be printed. Newspaper editors are generally looking for ‘reader letters’ of about 200 words or less. I’m also preparing an explanatory letter and planning to buzz a copy of it to Rob Hulls, my own State A-G, and will cc that to the other relevent A-Gs. But that’s as far is it goes from me. If ‘gamers’ in general think that my words represent their point of view then it’s up to THEM to “spread the word”. To ensure that the dialogues conducted address the concerns and issues they want it to address, rather than sitting back reacting or sitting back letting others speak for them.
@Trent Kusters
“Thank you, for representing all Australian gamers with consumnate maturity and etiquette.”
As intimated above, I don’t consider myself to be in any way a ‘representative’ of anyone except myself.
I was motivated to write the letter for two reasons. Firstly, I’m sick and tired of the misdirection and deceit conducted by an official in high office. Secondly, because I’ve been heavily involved with the ‘gaming’ community at PCPowerplay forum for a long time, and in the course of academic debate there regarding the censorship kerfuffle it became patently obvious to me that what people were REALLY after was for much of the content currently being classified as MA15+ to be instead recognisably classified as ‘adult’ material.
@Michael
“The thing is, games that should be put as R18+ get slightly modified and go into the MA15+ basket, or don’t get modified at all.”
And there lies the weakness of much of the current ‘pro-R18+’ lobbying conducted. That contention often comes up and it gives an incorrect impression. Reality is that, currently under our system of classification, most of the games referred to by such comments “should be” MA15+ titles, because their thematic direction fits in with the MA15+ classification. Most such games only really tip over the edge and get refused classification when the IMAGERY in them becomes a bit too explicit, and a “slight modification’ is all that is currently REQUIRED for them to fit the MA15+ rating.
In this country, the difference between MA15+ and R18+, insofar as content is concerned, is effectively the difference between “very adult content” and “very adult content with really naughty pictures”! They’re not R18+ unless they include the ‘really naughty pictures’, and if the ‘really naughty pictures’ are removed then they’re no longer R18+ titles. That’s why it’s (currently) wrong to claim that R18+ titles are being bunged into the MA15+ category. It’s why we need change to the classification system overall, if people want some of these titles to be recognisably classified as ‘adult’ ones.
Terry O'Shanassy
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM@ Ben
“I really hope that Terry actually has his letter published by The Advertiser, or sends it to Mr Atkinson, or basically puts it somewhere else besides Kotaku, where he is preaching to the choir.”
I buzzed a copy to the Adelaide Advertiser as a courtesy, but I wouldn’t hold any hope that it’d be printed. Newspaper editors are generally looking for ‘reader letters’ of about 200 words or less. I’m also preparing an explanatory letter and planning to buzz a copy of it to Rob Hulls, my own State A-G, and will cc that to the other relevent A-Gs. But that’s as far is it goes from me. If ‘gamers’ in general think that my words represent their point of view then it’s up to THEM to “spread the word”. To ensure that the dialogues conducted address the concerns and issues they want it to address, rather than sitting back reacting or sitting back letting others speak for them.
@Trent Kusters
“Thank you, for representing all Australian gamers with consumnate maturity and etiquette.”
As intimated above, I don’t consider myself to be in any way a ‘representative’ of anyone except myself.
I was motivated to write the letter for two reasons. Firstly, I’m sick and tired of the misdirection and deceit conducted by an official in high office. Secondly, because I’ve been heavily involved with the ‘gaming’ community at PCPowerplay forum for a long time, and in the course of academic debate there regarding the censorship kerfuffle it became patently obvious to me that what people were REALLY after was for much of the content currently being classified as MA15+ to be instead recognisably classified as ‘adult’ material.
@Michael
“The thing is, games that should be put as R18+ get slightly modified and go into the MA15+ basket, or don’t get modified at all.”
And there lies the weakness of much of the current ‘pro-R18+’ lobbying conducted. That contention often comes up and it gives an incorrect impression. Reality is that, currently under our system of classification, most of the games referred to by such comments “should be” MA15+ titles, because their thematic direction fits in with the MA15+ classification. Most such games only really tip over the edge and get refused classification when the IMAGERY in them becomes a bit too explicit, and a “slight modification’ is all that is currently REQUIRED for them to fit the MA15+ rating.
In this country, the difference between MA15+ and R18+, insofar as content is concerned, is effectively the difference between “very adult content” and “very adult content with really naughty pictures”! They’re not R18+ unless they include the ‘really naughty pictures’, and if the ‘really naughty pictures’ are removed then they’re no longer R18+ titles. That’s why it’s (currently) wrong to claim that R18+ titles are being bunged into the MA15+ category. It’s why we need change to the classification system overall, if people want some of these titles to be recognisably classified as ‘adult’ ones.
MattR
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:21 PM@Terry,
Beautifully eloquent. Bravo. I would suggest that in addition to the other Attorneys-General, you forward a copy to Mr Atkinson’s opposite number in the SA Parliament, Isobel Redmond MP. She is in favour of review of the classification procedures, including the introduction of an R18+ classification for games. Her email is heysen parliament sa gov au.
@Michael,
Even more bizarre is the inconsistency with which the ratings system is applied. For example, GTA IV was censored prior to submission for the PS3 and Xbox360 releases and received an MA15+ categorisation; yet the PC version was submitted uncensored and received the same rating. Moreover, Fallout 3 was refused classification due to in-game references to ‘morphine’ (this was changed to Med-X to avoid this issue in the final release); however, Velvet Assassin makes frequent use of morphine and received an MA15+ rating.
The system is clearly broken; however, Mr Atkinson will not be on our side. He is immune to reason in these arguments, which is why I resorted to farce: http://intouchwiththeobvious.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/an-open-letter-to-michael-atkinson-mp/
He is yet to reply.
Once again, Terry — well done.
Michael
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM@MattR
I think the problem with Fallout3 regarding morphine was that in game you could become addicted to it. (I do have assassins creed, but not sure about the morphine parts in it, yet)
Wokeye
Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 8:19 PMI bet Mr Atkinson reads plenty of books and may watch the odd arthouse movie.
I also bet that with his ‘real life’ perspective that many of these have murder, rape, sex and other ‘adult’ themes depicted that he seeks to remove from adult computer games. I find the level of hypocrasy to be astounding, really.
MattR
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM@Michael,
Velvet Assassin, not Assassin’s Creed. It is scheduled for release in about a month. And you can become addicted to it in this game too.
My point about the system being broken: shouldn’t addiction to a fictitious drug have exactly the same rating requirements as addiction to a real drug in an overtly fictitious setting?
Ruairi
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 3:27 PMCan we get Terry to run for Attorney General? Atkinson is failing his duties to the public and needs to be replaced. Also, the rules need to be changed so that a majority vote of Attorney Generals is enough to have a bill passed.
Brian Mullaly
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 7:04 PMgreat read, well written.
Mr.Atkinson… you really dug yourself a hole havn’t ya mate.
chuck
Friday, May 15, 2009 at 3:04 AMI would like just to leave this, anytime you let the government decide how to do things for you, you lose that right and someone with an agenda decides what when and where. In a nutshell if you care so much about your kids monitor them
Tarrith
Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 1:17 PMPlease move to Croydon Mr O’Shanassy,
I want to vote for you and in doing so vote out the misguided Mr Atkinson.
Tarrith DoUrden
36 yr old gamer, father of four (who are also gamers down to my 4 yr old)
David Luke
Monday, November 2, 2009 at 3:58 PMSalute, Terry. You’re far better with your words than I could hope to be. My draft letter to the OFLC had only gotten so far as, “The censorship and banning of computer games in Australia is archaic, and out of touch. Computer games are beyond being an emergent media form, and have the ability to engage the broadest range of audiences of any media. To exclude content targeting particular groups is to limit the growth and development of the industry and the medium. The consumers are quite capable of condemning poor products that rely on gratuitous violence or sexuality by not buying them.”
Josh Drake
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 5:26 PMNow Mr. Atkinson knows what it feels like to get OWNED. Nice job Terry.