Michael Atkinson Writes to Kotaku

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On Tuesday, South Australian Attorney-General Michael Atkinson wrote to the Adelaide Advertiser about proposed changes to our classification system. Yesterday, a Kotaku reader responded to Atkinson’s letter. And today? Atkinson has written to Kotaku to respond again… and deliver a challenge to Kotaku readers.

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    boc

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Rather than discuss the points of argument he throws in a strawman argument about an irrelevant electoral challege.

    I would like to know exactly what his electorate has to do with his position as attorney general. On top of that, what does it have to do with his behaviour to the greater community of South Australia, and the nation as a whole.

    I didn’t know Croydon, South Australia, was a special area that dictates the laws of the country.

    He can win his electorate as many times as he likes, we don’t care if he’s an MP that represents whatever electorate.

    Whether he remains or not, what we all want is justified arguments and responses to our own.

    Countless proponents of the R+18 rating having laid case after case of well constructed, logical, and rationalised arguments.

    Regarding his actual email here, I would just like to say that his gloating of his achievements and of his electoral skills and community support reeks of smugness and intimidation.

    It’s a pity I don’t live in his electorate as I would definitely vote for anyone other than him if I did live there.

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    HotDamn!

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    I wonder if Atkinson has a Twitter account I could follow?

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    Ben

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    As a Man sitting in one of the safest Labor seats in your state, your challenge rings as hollow as your apparent care for your constituent’s right to free speech. I would advise all Kotaku readers to instead concentrate their efforts towards raising awareness of this cause in more marginal seats and in the public eye in general.

    What you are doing is wrong. It is unjust. You are stifling free speech.

    Put up as many straw men as you like in this debate by listing possible game scenarios and we will always bring you back to the truth: This issue is about one Man who is trying to stifle Free speech.

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    Shane

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    Doesn’t he realise that politicians get elected by the people, to act for the people. Not to insult, challenge or blatantly go against the wishes of the majority of the population. To turn around and say “im so stuck in my opinion about this issue so much, that to change it, you have to vote me out” is arrogance at its clearest definition of the word.

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    Terry O'Shanassy

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    I suspect that the appropriate response to this letter from Michael Atkinson was made even before his letter was composed, by a reader at gamepolitics.com where the article (and my letter) was mentioned:

    “That guy just tore Atkinson a new one. Not that it matters. Man, I really wish people like this were in charge. Too bad they usually have too much dignity to perform the necessary amount of ass-kissing to become such powerful elected officials.”

    That’s as much of a response as I’d care to dignify this letter with. Valid concerns were raised and they deserve better than to be met with what one reader described rightfully above as “Meet me behind the sheds at 5 schoolboy brawling”.

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    Terry O'Shanassy

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    I suspect that the appropriate response to this letter from Michael Atkinson was made even before his letter was composed, by a reader at gamepolitics.com where the article (and my letter) was mentioned:

    “That guy just tore Atkinson a new one. Not that it matters. Man, I really wish people like this were in charge. Too bad they usually have too much dignity to perform the necessary amount of ass-kissing to become such powerful elected officials.”

    That’s as much of a response as I’d care to dignify this letter with. Valid concerns were raised and they deserve better than to be met with what one reader described rightfully above as “Meet me behind the sheds at 5 schoolboy brawling”.

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    Cat Tactics

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    It is obvious he doesn’t take this issue and our community seriously.

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    adison

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    So basically i have decided im gonna write him. I see where the guy comes from and respect his dedication to his work, but he needs to be challenged publically on this topic in a professional and public way.

    I would bring my 2 xbox’s and do some local co-op with him. i mean, c’mon as if he wouldnt love that. he probs has no one to game with hence the hate, i know how much i used to hate gears of war until i played co-op with my mate and i was like “daaaaammnn” and started loving it despite its repetative nature, and i think he would have a change of heart if i was to nurture and help develop his ability to pwn.

    but lets be serious, why does he need to make the debate with a member of the general public? isnt it in his line of work to stand up publically and convince people his views and opinions are right? and to challenge his opponents and, i dunno, win?
    gah! he just frustrates me so much, k-rudd wouldnt mind the R18+ and wouldnt put up the political s**t-storm (lulz) this guy is.

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    Mannon

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    @ Ryan

    ‘At the end of the day you comment about your consideration of diversity and yet refuse to acknowledge that a difference in opinion is bound to exist, and maybe, in this case, yours is wrong.’

    It’s not even about one opinion being right and another being wrong, it’s about providing people with as much information as possible, and allowing them their right to make reasonable and *informed* decisions for themselves and their children as to what is and is not appropriate.

    Then again, our government also wants to censor our internet access, so who knows? Perhaps one day, we’ll be remembering the good old days, when our opinions meant a damn.

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    quantocks

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    XXX films – OKAY!
    R18+ game – DEFINITELY NOT.

    one Attorney-General pushing his values on the entire population of Australia shouldn’t stop the rating system being overhauled.

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    Kent Dempsey

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    Hmm… this seems timely…

    http://www.destructoid.com/why-my-children-can-never-play-the-wii-again-124431.phtml

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    Stuart Skene

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    so is the debate off until March 2010 now Michael?? you say you read this, so now you have my name. Unfortunately I’m not in your constituency. I only happen to be part of the country that you are silencing with your ridiculous antics.

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    Ben Abraham

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Oh dear.

    Well, we can always wait him out. Governments do change.

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    Smoolander

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    “For the past few years I have received more abuse and threats over my stand against R18+ interactive games than any other topic of public debate and I shall be reading the highlights to Parliament soon.”

    Really Mr Atkinson, so will you also be reading valid and constructive arguments such as those made by Terry O’Shanassy to parliament as well, or just your scaremongering tactics that do not actually address the valid arguments raised against your stance.

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    Unicron

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    What a mature response from a man who’s paid by OUR taxes.

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    Steve

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:10 PM

    If Atkinson will be reading the highlights of abuse in Parliament then perhaps some of the Pro R Rating highlights should be sent to the other Attorneys General to read in response.

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    Ben

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Sooo that’s your rebuttal? Sad.

    This is what pressure groups are for so that we don’t need to run off & join parliament. BUT with all the evidence around supporting an R rating it just isn’t enough for you is it?

    It really isn’t surprising that your getting death threats from people. Did you ever stop to think,
    “hmmm maybe I’m wrong on this one..?”

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    Qumulys

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Beware…Thar be trolls over dem borders!!

    Lets look at the positives.
    1. Our elite gamers will have a 3 year head start on the games that matter over the competition.
    2. The ‘edited’ version of Grand Theft Auto he subjected us to was just a teaser, we were rewarded with a cock flash and re-enabling of those taseful edits, hence we appreaciate the game, just that bit more longer.
    3. Teens are the winners from his rules, no other country has made adult games more easily accesible to them than good old Michaels rules has. Way to go dude…
    4. You’ve awakened us dreary nerd gamers to the delights of democracy.
    5. There’s a SOUTH Australia??

    And lastly, 6. Old people die on average sooner than the average age of gamers :D

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    The Reason

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    For god’s sake Atkinson, the whole reason you do what you do is because you were voted into it. As a politician it is your job to give the public what they want, and 90%+ of people want an R18+ classification. Just because you dont agree doesnt make you right… I would quite happily have people still hanging in this country if it were up to me, but I accept that capital punishment has been abolished. What I ask of you is that you stop thinking about what you want and start taking into consideration what the PUBLIC wants.

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    Brett Cullen

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    My my, what a withering riposte! Despite the fact that you were presented with what’s probably the most coherent and well thought out argument you’re likely to get on the subject, you’ve decided to side step it all and tarnish the message by talking about the lowest common denominator. And your dog. That was a nice, relevant point.

    It’s clear you’re ill informed – despite your opinion to the contrary, and whats more is you’re clearly not willing to even consider any the point being made by us, the gaming public. You know, the ones who are actually affected by all this?

    I’m sure you’ve done a lot for your constituency but you know what? Your duty is also to the country as a whole. We, the gaming public, are part of your larger constituency and we’re telling you what we want. You’re the elected offical of THE PEOPLE.

    It seems the best we can hope for is a schoolyard comeback and diversion tactics instead of a level headed and most importantly, informed counter point.

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    Kashkin

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:25 PM

    I sent Mr. Atkinson an email, directing him to Terry’s letter in the hope that he might attempt to understand our request and reasoning, rather than making unfounded and subjective claims about a subject with which is he unfamiliar. In his response, Mr. Atkinson has essentially stated that he will not fairly represent, or even consider, this issue. For that, apparently, we would need to elect someone else.

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    Nic Healey

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    I’m disappointed but not surprised. Terry was a rare anomaly – intelligent and considered. I have no doubt that some of the less savoury elements of gaming have castigated Atkinson in some very harsh ways that serve only to convince him how correct he is in his assessment of “R18+ nerds”. We need to be careful, people.

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    Dale

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    “For the past few years I have received more abuse and threats over my stand against R18+ interactive games than any other topic of public debate…”

    @Atkinson: From whom? Members of the public? Perhaps this fact is more indicative of your negligence of the public’s opinion on this issue. You are employed in the public’s service, do your damn job.

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    David Fowles

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:39 PM

    You can bet your last dollar that the “highlights” he claims he will read to parliament will be immature rants from angry kids and not one word of the raft of real argument against his patently stupid position will ever cross his lips. If anyone wants to fund me to move to South Australia and give me a job there I’d be happy to run against him. I couldn’t guarantee that I’d win an election (as this is hardly an election issue) but it would get the mainstream media attention it deserves.

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    Ian C

    Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 2:46 PM

    From your condescending tone we can only assume that you have no respect for anyone who would offer a different view than your own. Quite a scary attitude from someone supposed to show understanding and respect as a ‘public servant’.
    It’s clear you’re unwilling to spare even a moments thought on how out of touch with todays Australian you could be and are content to demonize and vilify anyone who might want to challenge your opinions.

    I feel dismayed that someone in a position of trust would take such extreme measures to force their outdated moral standards on me and the rest of the country, as usual your response is littered with alarmist rhetoric designed to illicit sympathy and agreement from the average person yet you still refuse to address the most basic points of the discussion.

    To sum up we don’t want your job, we just want you to do it better.

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