Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete Gave PS3 A Sales Bump

Title should be changed to "Final Fantasy XIII Demo Gave PS3 A Sales Bump"

In the other hand, Monster Hunter G went out this week with the MH3 demo.. I wonder how that will affect the Wii sales.

Well im excited for the Movie/Demo if the demo comes on the US Version then im in it wasnt that bad of a movie it had a good story.... hey atleast Square Wont Sell out to MS like they did with FF XIII release on the 360 ya never know they may put this on a HD-DVD special for the 360 if so ive lost all hope in square

@Maxyboy13: Because then you get angry people who don't want to pay a high price for a demo (GT5Prologue crying babies). Now it's just an awesome extra
It's all just cereal-box psychology really

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: no, your thinking of that other thing. This thing is when you do that thing to whoever those things do things to. I think.

I expected a jump, yes, but not of THIS magnitude.

Adam Fry

@Sparx:

sorry, wrong thread

I would buy the Blu Ray version of this. But only if the price is reasonable. I have a personal rule to not buy a Blu ray unless it's under $20. Even exactly at $20 is a slight stretch for me.

Dennen

@alfredofroylan:

Except that Advent Children really wasn't a bad movie

@Maxyboy13:
They did

alfredofroylan

@UnoriginalPunch: You are correct, sorry about that, "the second it comes to the states" would be what was meant.

The movie was just a nice extra that came with the Demo.
Too bad the west won't get an English demo until prob next year.
Guess FF7:ACC won't create the same impressive sales figures in the rest of the world without the demo

Wouldn't it be quite stupid not to release the demo in the west considering the sales?

I'll probably get shit all over for this, but I have my doubts about the demo coming out with the Bluray over here- it'd be in MS' best interests to cock-block a release like that, and hard.

Bialia

@ch3l0_91:
oh my god....
1 ps1+ 1 ps1+ 1 ps1 = ps3.
my mind is melting as we speak.

bableebooblah-new and improved.

How is this possible when apparently everyone pirated the movie - therefore being unplayable on PS3's?

Perhaps Someone will take some notice that people buy Japanese consoles to play Japanese games.
Seems like it is taking forever for a lot of really good Japanese titles to hit the PS3.

CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan

They should really change the priority in their title.

Why don't they just market it as the FFXIII demo instead of the movie?

Hooray for the time when people can buy demos and receive crappy movies free.

alfredofroylan

final fantasy? is that the game where you run around doing that thing with that thing?

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@MtlAngelus: I think he means when it's released when he says, "the second it drops." I could be way off base here, so forgive me if I'm incorrect.

UnoriginalPunch

How much will the actual game boost sales? Because that's a major jump.

@HELLSRIDER is playing Mother 3:
could also be the special PS3 + if they like FF and don't have a PS3 already they would of got one sooner or later why not get one when there's this awesome promo :O

jakinov

Great news for Sony, I suppose. I wonder if the same thing will happen here in the US.

This rumor is so surprising that, well--No, no, who am I kidding; I knew it all along.

Did anyone think the PS3 numbers would stay the same?
Anyone?

crabperson

@DrunkRaba: Same here but only IF PriceDrop IS True.

I doubt it'll come with a demo on US release, hence the "Sneak peak at FFXIII" which makes me mad...but at least I'll get it when it comes.

I think thats wrong, it was the demo not the movie.

go ps3!

ch3l0_91

If it comes with a demo on US release I will get it the second it drops, if not, I can wait a while.

That's a hefty jump

@Sparx: Also, wrong movie.

spannu

Imagine what sales the actual game will bring in.

@cornunderscore2x: Omg how dare you bring that thing up? Those types of things are not meant for things like this.

It's ok though, I'll let things slide this time.

@everyboda about that thing:
so is it about that thing that talks to the thing?

oh yeah did ya get that thing i sent ya?

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@bakagaijin: Aaah...I see..*furrows eyebrows in concentration* DAY ONE!

@narutoboy001: I'm waiting for the Betamax release, personally.

50k people picked up a console because of a game demo? That's pretty intense!

@CockroachMan: Technically no, because the demo isn't the package but a part of the package. I know what you are saying though. I actually can't wait for FFVII:ACC on BD because it will looks amazing in HD.

@bakagaijin: You're both wrong. This is the thing with the guy.

@crabperson: Corky from Happy Days did

Too bad Capcom isn't putting a Monster Hunter game out on PS3 is JP or then it would get a massive bump.

I would also get the demo-er-movie when (if?) it drops by north. Normally I wouldn't do this, but excluding Vesperia, I have yet to enjoy another JRPG and I am hungry for one.

@CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan: Why would they? All PS3 consoles are region-free. Only Japanese people would want to buy Japanese PS3s.

lamusiqa

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: Remember when that stuff happened to thing at that part of it? That was awesome!

@eyeshield: No kidding, That's what I am wondering for GT5. The "demo" sold over 3 million. I can only imagine the actual game.

So if the numbers are this good why the heck does Sony not help out Square to get that FFVII remake going.

Corran006

@narutoboy001:

THEY BETRAYED YOU!!!

;)

MooglesInMyFace

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: yeah that thing was awsome. thanks!

Lol the new Japanese PS3 owners get home and are like "Wtf this isn't an FF7 remake!".

MooglesInMyFace

@Adam Fry:
admiral ackbar would be proud.
"you can't repel flavor with this magnitude!"

now ackbar cereal crunch comes with brine shrimp!

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@bakagaijin's psn is kingthing:
so, you're the king of those things?
king of what things?

bableebooblah-new and improved.

I'm probably one of the few "hardcore" gamers out there that has never really played FFVII. *gasp* I have watched friends play through various segments of the game however. I'm just not a fan of turn-based games (X-Com was an exception).

I'm not too much of an RPG guy having only played through and finished a handful of them (including LoZ: LttP, Shadowrun (SNES), LoZ: TP are what I can think of off the top of my head ATM).

My question is, is it worth playing through VII, even though technology and gameplay mechanics have improved vastly, and knowing what happens to certain characters and events in the story?

I enjoyed watching FFVII:AC, but I can't say it was a good movie.

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: I do believe you're thinking of Pokemon. With the pokey and the mon and the thing where the guy comes out of the thing and he likes to fall down the blargleblagle. *fish flappy face*

@MooglesInMyFace:
No. I don't think anyone would be that stupid.

StevenRafael

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: Funfact: My Japanese PSN name is KingThing. lol

A demo gave the PS3 a sales bump, that's pretty wild. The sales should be through the roof when the game actually comes out.

@aw3str1k3r: Because people want the demo that bad :/

StevenRafael

@thingy thing thingish thingology:
well i liked the part about when that thing totally wupped that thing's ass like "BOOOSH!!!"
and then i was like "oh damn, did ya see that thing doing that thing?!?!"

then thing said "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!"

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: THE THING IS that this guy does the thing where he spins that huge thing like a helicopter blade in front of him.

Vorpal

@Bialia: And you would be correct. As far as I know, the demo wont be coming with the NA release of ACC.

@ShaggE: GOLDFISH GOLDFISH GOLDFIIIIIISSSHH!!!!

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@Alternate, I cho-cho-chose the impossible: Yeah. There's also the localisation issue. It's guaranteed sales of Advent Children over here if the demo is bundled with it. I'd definitely be down. Too bad.

Bialia

Didn't see this coming at all.

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: You know...things. lot's of 'em. Things need kings. it might as well be me.

Thats why SE needs to make a FFVII remake while they can.
The core FFVII fans aren't going to be around forever. Just a couple more years and they're gonna have other things that will be taking their time and attention.

InfiniteZr0

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: I remember back in the day when this thing was sweet. Now this thing and that thing, just all seems like the same thing. I guess it could be a good thing.

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: And it went wherever I did goooo.

Holy shit my mind esplodedddddddddddd!

Terrorsaur-Back from the grave!

i actually can't believe people would buy a ps3 for a demo... i would a least wait until the game comes out.

authorityzro

@NeVeRMoRe666: DUUURRRR I LIKE VIDEO GAMES

Bialia

ooffff couuurseee.

Kris Cortez

@bakagaijin: I was thinking of it too, but it would take me forever to read that shit and I'd need to dig out the old Nihongo dictionary.

It sucks that JRPGs are about the worst thing you can play without a firm grip on the language.

Bialia

@lamusiqa: I think he means made by Japanese.

@Bialia: NO WAI

notquitedeadyet

@jakinov: Sony and SE would be pretty dumb not that move that bundle to the US along with a slight price cut at the same time. They would print money.

Uh, we already do. I was 16 when FFVII came out, and I already do have other stuff to worry about.

I'd still play it a VII remake. Any time. The funny thing is, those of us who were sentient when VII came out are now the PS3's target age group. Coincidence? ;)

Bialia

@Bialia: Yeah I doubt we'll see a demo. I'm just pissed we have to wait for the localization AND the 360 port.

I'm seriously thinking of importing the Japanese version to be honest. I just hate having to look up words I don't know. Kinda takes the fun out of it. I'll think about it once it's released.

You're all wrong. This game is where that dude busts out his thing, and "things" the other dude's thing while the bigger guy with his bigger thing goes "what be happenin' to mah thang!?"

QBasic

I don't understand why Sony didn't put the Japanese demo with the US release of Advent Children. It would result in a huge boost of sales even if Sony failed to localize most of it. All they would really need to do is translate the menus into English so people can play the game... It's not like you need to know what people are saying in the cutscenes to be able to play the demo.

jrc1337

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: OMG SPOILERZ

@Kris Cortez: ...

This guy are sick.

Bialia

@aw3str1k3r:
Well sales would've been even higher had that not happened.

Gam3r

@bableebooblah-new and improved.:

wasn't it that game where you had to buy that special attachment to play it? what was that attachment called? a console?

oops, that was a reply to InfiniteZr0.

Bialia

@Bialia: If you import the demo you might be able to see how difficult it would be to play. It'll give you an idea on what to expect.

I actually have a good understanding of the language (graduating with a B.A. in Japanese lang. and lit. in the fall, so I damn better) but my weakest link has always been kanji, so I'd have to look those up more often then I'd like to. The more I think about it, I may just import it. I'm getting impatient.

ビァリアちゃん、だいじょうぶですよ！がんばってね！

If this eventually comes out on the Xbox 360 in Japan, I wonder if we'll see more NERD RAGE a la Tales of Vesperia.
[kotaku.com]

Chinpokomon

@Dennen:

You must not own many Blu Rays.

Jerpar

Even if the US version didn't have the demo, I'd still buy it because I love the movie :/ (no sarcasm)

Then again....I REALLY do want that demo...so the US version better have it or I'll rip someone ba--..err.

[Either way still getting it so, meh.]

@what really is "thing"?:
now, i'm just guessing, but shouldn't this thing be a game?
it would be pretty cool if they turned this movie into a game.
that would be the thing to end all things.

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@Bialia: You would be correct. I guarantee you there is a clause in Microsoft's agreement with Square Enix that mandates the delay of ALL cross platform titles on a system other than theirs, including demos.

What a crock of shit.

@Maxyboy13: That's what they did with GT5 Prologue. Now, years later the game has received dozens of free DLC updates, and is now up to GT5: 3spec. It is still considered "just a demo".

Marketing something as a preview for something else is dumb.

@crabperson: I did.

I guess I was wrong.

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: No no no, it's that game with that dude who's menacing the integrity of the whole world, but the other dudes that reign on that world refuse to aknowledge that indead, the first dude is a treat. So another weird looking dude with no particular rank will take responsibility of arresting the first dude with the help of random dudes and big boobed girls he meets on it's odyssey.

My bet is that when the movie comes stateside in June, SE will rerelease FFVII on PSN as to get people to buy the game again with the movie. It's just too old for most people to have played today.

I still need to play FFVII. I watched the movie back in 06 without playing the game and it made no sense to me. Thing is that FFVII is so old that there's no legal way to play it anymore without paying $60+ on eBay for a copy and a PSOne. Insane!

@Dennen:

I've never paid more than $15 for a Blu-ray. I always cruise the used section on Amazon.com for good deals. Granted, I never get the movie on the first day, but if I really wanted to see something again, that's what Netflix is for!

@ShadowOdin, representing the people of Malmö, Sweden:

Microsoft paid a hefty sum to Square-Enix to get them to release FFXIII in the US, the last thing you need is a demo promoting the game on someone ELSE'S system!

@bakagaijin:

I recognize the words, but can't for the life of me remember what the hell they mean :/

ganbatte is hurry? nah, doesn't sound right...

ack. my head hurts >_<

notquitedeadyet

@Shteve: thanks Shteve, i'll have to remeber to give ya that thing i sent ya.

bableebooblah-new and improved.

@Patient: Could you make up more B.S. to be angry about. Localization is a far more likely reason we won't get a demo. Localization on RPG's is a huge burden.

@lamusiqa: I'm pretty sure it's just bluray discs rather than the consoles that are region free. That is, unless for some bizzare reason I'm missing something and I actually CAN play my Japanese PS2 games on my PS3.

@alfredofroylan: It's a decent movie. These insults remind me of the Crackdown release. Great game that got far too much hate because people think it's a funnier story if the demo is more important. Actually Tobal #1 would be a earlier example.

@notquitedeadyet: it means "to do one's best" or "Keep at it".

@dagamer34: Or it takes a ton of time/money to localize a cinimatic JRPG. There isn't even a hint of MS being involved with this movie. Still going to see a major Blu-ray get released with exclusive footage either way. MS still gets shafted on FF's home turff.

I'll buy the movie because I love the movie,I think the demo had a big part of it, but you gotta understand it's freakin FF7. That game has one of the biggest fan bases, especially in Japan. I doubt the demo will come to the US just cause of translation time and effort. The movie looks amazing in blu ray though....A must buy if your a FF7 fan.Now see Sony...look at these numbers....now what if you remade FF7 on PS3?...yeah think of the sales figures then.....

@lunarcore: yeah and play it on what? nothing.

@Bialia: If MS actually have the clout to cock-block it. If Squeenix and Sony wanted to release it I don't know what MS could do short of throwing money around and Sony could play that game too. Never know though. Maybe MS have some kind of deal with Squeenix which covers this already?

@lunarcore: Localisation is likely a key reason, but subbing the cut scenes and some basic translation of the menus as someone else has mentioned, would be awesome, and a relatively small task. The effect on sales would be huge and worth the effort. Don't be naive. Microsoft has deep coffers, and we've seen how the play ball this gen. I'm not making a value judgement, here. Just saying.

Bialia

@UnoriginalPunch: I know, I was pointing out I have the same interest only that I will expect the PS3 price to drop before I bulge.

Wait what happened to the bicycle and pirate hat? I thought we had a progressive theme going on here...

IngramSeagull

@bakagaijin: Awwww. I can't see the Kanji. Stupid Linux. :( I haven't taken Japanese in about three years, and if you don't use it, you tend to lose it. I'm sooo slow now, it takes me forever to read stuff, and then I have to remember what the words mean. You ought to import it, or even the game when it comes out. It'd be great practice, and I'm sure you be fine at it.

Bialia

@StevenRafael: oh they do, they do

rougheo

@aw3str1k3r: Pretty sure they can't pirate the demo.

We picked up HD copies of this movie at CES 2006 when they were first screening Blu-ray. Find it funny that it's just now being released...

hightouch

Sigh Schools these days... ps1 + ps1 + ps1 = 3p +3s + 3 =???? fishsticks

QuigleyHamster

@Bialia: How hard? That sounds kinky!

@Bialia: I doubt Square would let it be released without a full decent localization. Decent voice overs alone is a chunk of cash. Plus they would need a group of developers working on the in game translation. It's just burning time/money at that point. Does FF really even need a demo? Look at it this way. How many huge local game devs still won't even spend money on demos?

@undefined: Watch out, you will get disemvoweled for talking about such things.

Combine

@HELLSRIDER is playing Mother 3: Exactly! FF is pretty much the only series that could cause people to buy something they most likely already have to play a very short and very limited demo.

MrKlorox

@lamusiqa:
I dont know if you noticed this,
But Sony is a JAPANESE COMPANY.
HENCE IT'S A JAPANESE CONSOLE.
So, Keeping this in mind, one would think that a person who bought a Japanese console, Would be looking forward to some Japanese games.

I know Bakagaijin already pointed this out in a nice fashion, but Im a bit of an asshole.

CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan

@CockroachMan: "In the other hand, Monster Hunter G went out this week with the MH3 demo.. I wonder how that will affect the Wii sales."

Probably very little, considering how poorly the console MH games sell. Sales for the PS2 versions absolutely pale in comparison to the PSP versions.

Most people don't seem to realize that the main draw of the MH series is that the portable titles allow for wifi ad-hoc parties where people get together and meet up in person. That social experience is what makes the MH games sell so well, and console games simply don't allow that.

Suzaku

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: 3ps1^2 = (3ps1)(1ps1)

@jamesjohnson01: There will probably be a US demo released for free after they try to get us to pay for it, again.

MrKlorox

@MrKlorox: Talking about Advent Children, not the PS3 console.

MrKlorox

@WolfmanWalt:
The PS2 disk's themselves are region specific.
So I believe your outa luck =/

The PS3 is region free, allowing you to download games from other regions stores.
Same with BluRay Games.

BluRay movies have different rules, it is up to each company's digression in setting the regions.
Pretty awesome really.

CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan

@DrunkRaba: If you think about it, they really shot themselves in the foot if they were trying to get Advent Children to stand on its own as a release. Instead, they'll have to change the name of the release from "Advent Children Complete" to "FFXIII Demo."

@def PD: It's definitely a game worth playing through. The story alone, blows most "new" games out the water. Try to get a copy of it off Amazon; it's sorta cheap.

After skimming through the Blu Ray Advent Children movie, I can safely say that I might take the plunge for the blu ray if they come up a decent collector's edition for the right price... I'll just think of it the same way I did for Lord of the Rings...

Kinda disappointed how all those extra scenes don't really add too much to the movie, though it's nice that they added some new action scenes. I felt quite giddy with Sephiroth doing his thang with his Masamune (or was it Muramasa?).

Anyway, THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THAT FLOATING MONSTER IN THE OPENING MOTORCYCLE SEQUENCE! You think the time they take to reanimate and edit certain scenes, they would actually fix that glaring mistake in the beginning. But no, it's still there!

Shiroi Kaze

@MtlAngelus: At this point it kind of feels like guaranteed buyers remorse if you don't wait for a ps3 price drop.

@CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan: Then I'm confused, and I'm sorry to sound like an idiot (which means I do a lot of appologizing most of the time) but wouldn't that make the PS3 region locked? I was always under the impression that because Blurays were regionless that they could function on any PS3, whereas any region encoded data aside from US region encodes would not function on a PS3 due to said lock. I.E. If the PS3 were really regionless, then software wouldn't have any method of telling which region the PS3 would work for, so all PS2 games would work and not just NTSC U/C.

Likewise: I was always under the impression that since PSN games, etc, function; they are likewise non-region encoded and that's why they function on my PS3...Just tell me I need to research this a bit more if I'm talking out my ass too much with my preconceptions as to how this works I'd honestly like to know.

The movie needed more Elena. You can never have enough Elena.

Valnen

@NeVeRMoRe666: lol, oh you!

Bialia

@Muon: Kind of like they did with the Metal Gear Solid 2 demo amirite? ZOE would have never sold as much as it did in the west without that push.

Plus SE know they have the emo's and the FF fans with this move for sure... it just doesn't have the same pull factor worldwide as Metal Gear did.

Either way Day one... I shall be getting this...for the movie first, demo second.

@PatrickF**kingStar: Or just high.

@PatrickF**kingStar: Or just high.

I must be the only person in the world who actually wants the movie on Blu-Ray and doesn't want the FFXIII demo.

I just don't see why you'd want to tease yourself with an hour of a game that won't come for more than a year. I'd rather play the whole game fresh when it comes out, rather than spoiling part of the game now.

Of course, I was also the person who didn't want to see the first 10 minutes of The Dark Knight they teased when people watched I Am Legend on opening weekend.

KidFlik

@MtlAngelus: That's the only thing that gets you to bulge? At least it's not car crashes, I suppose, but it does mean you don't have fun very often.

@crabperson: This guy named Tim did. But that tim, though...

@WolfmanWalt:

PS1 games on PS3: region free (at least the downloaded ones, I've never tried a disc based Japanese PS1 games)

PS2 games on PS3: Not region free (yet... They have the technology, we can make it better... and such)

PS3 games on PS3: Region free (all games work in all regions, BUT PAL games will not work on SD NTSC TVs, and vice versa. ALL PS3 games will work on ALL systems if connected to HDTVs_

Bluray Movies on PS3: Not region free, but there are only 3 bluray regions, as opposed to, what, 10 DVD regions? The US and Japan are in the Same bluray region. Too bad movies in Japan are more expensive than games, or I'd be excited by that idea... It'll make it nice when I get to Japan, though, since I won't have to buy another Bluray player.

DVDs on Bluray players: Not region free, but if you have a PS2, you can get DVD-regionX and remove this limitation.

@WolfmanWalt:
Damn....
I thought I had it figured out, but you make a really good point, how does it figure out what region you are in.

I would have to say that your theory must be right, that the PS3's are indeed region specific, and the media is the non-region item.

Then there is the whole issue of accounts on the PS3, could on set up a Japanese account on the PS3 and theoretically use it for other regions products?
I know changing a region is possible on a PS3 testkit via the Debug menu, but that is something totally different. Perhaps this lends truth to your point, why would the testkit even offer a region change setting if the end users retail kit would work anyways.

your turning my whole world upside down!

CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan

@bableebooblah-new and improved.: If that's the case, I sould of bought 15 PS1's, that would be like, 4 PS3's with 4 CELLS! WHAAOOOH!

@StevenRafael: You seriously underestimate the stupidity potential of "anyone"

@dagamer34: Could put the demo on a DVD in NA.

robbo_the_hood

@robbo_the_hood: A DVD that came with the Blu-Ray special edition of course.

robbo_the_hood

@Bialia: They could just release the demo on a DVD.

robbo_the_hood

@def PD:

The short answer is no.

There is nothing that you will find interesting. Only nolstalgia keeps people coming back for more.

In the end, its a decent game with a typical pretentious story. It rode on the fact that it was 3D and wasn't even the best of the PSX FF's.

@Shiroi Kaze: Really? They actually didn't add that much new action footage, only a bit of new stuff in the motorcycle chase sequence and at the end of the fight with Sephiroth. The bulk of the new footage is there to improve the plot structure and pacing, to help explain some things that weren't obvious, to make the plight of those with Geostigma more dramatic, and to ditch some repetetive scenes during the conversation between Kadaj and Rufus. That, and to link the film more closely with On the Way to a Smile and Crisis Core.

Suzaku

@jrc1337: Well, Advent Children Complete hasn't been released in the US yet, and won't be for a while longer.

It remains to be seen whether or not they'll release the demo in English.

Suzaku

@def PD: Actually, the LoZ games fall into the adventure genre. They have more in common with Metal Gear than Final Fantasy.

@def PD: Watching AC or ACC without having played the original is denying yourself a large portion of what makes it fun to watch, nostalgia. There are scenes which I could see being non-special for someone who hadn't played the original, but would be amazing to fans. Plus, the movie is chock-full of easter eggs -- drawings in houses, photographs on tables, shop signs, billboards, and so on.

Suzaku

@lunarcore: Yes, you are right. Clearly I fabricate everything I complain about. How silly of me to question why it takes a year "..Or more" to localize a finished game when it's two predecessors took only 6 months.

The concept of "Timed Release" and "Fairness clause" are figments of my imagination and I am the only person here on Kotaku that finds the delay ridiculous.

Does your nick Lunarcore describe what is found inside of your head?

Well the movie was pretty good IIRC so why not? ;)

@Bialia: At 5 gigs the demo is bigger then most 360 games.

@Zeag: they might not be able to contractually thanks to Microsoft.

zordac

@dagamer34:

Yep. Jepar seems to just not know how to shop for these things smartly =) If I wanted, sure. I can go to Best Buy and gets the newest movie for $30. I don't fancy that sort of thing though. Why get one for $30 when you can get two or three at that price? Rare on three, but it's possible with certain sales.

I just believe in buying my Blu Ray movies smartly, and I just don't think the $20+ range is very friendly. But you pay for quality and releases, I do figure. So if one has the patience, the price will eventually drop to reasonable levels.

Dennen

@Jerpar: 32

Dennen

@Suzaku: You're right about those two action scenes, but they did change/improve certain scenes like when Vincent first appears. I like the direction they took with geostigma this time, but I didn't feel it was enough... But then again, I only did skim through the movie...

Shiroi Kaze

@bobtheduck: I'll have to see if I can pick up a Japanese PS1 game and test it, local gamestore has afew, so I'll have to check if they have anything good. I'll let you know my results as you've been really helpful.

Didn't know that about Bluray movies having regions though. Thats what I get for having assumptions.

@CRRRUNK -AKA RedRing O'Houlihan: That's another good question. Sounds like we have a mystery on our hands. I'm getting pretty curious about this thing now, since it's been brought up. It's nice to know what my system can and cannot do. If Bob is right and you can infact play Japanese PS1 games, it sinks my theory entirely, so I'll have to do abit of investigative journalism. It's like I'm really a Hardy Boy....man...manboy.

@Captain McNinja: heft hefty hefffty.

snowbeach024

@dagamer34: Didn't they release it on the PSN recently?

Narishma

@snowbeach024: wimpy wimpy wimpy!

Ashura

hahaha, thats funny. a ff xiii demo increased ps3 sales. just thinking how much of a bump the actual game would have when it releases in 5 years. by the time the game comes out, the demo will look like a last gen game. damn you square enix!