Will Wright: Why Spore Wasn’t Released On 360, PS3

And Will Wright continues to prove that he is the most disconnected man in video games.

I can't even begin to imagine what the PC version of spore would have been like had they stopped "creating new applications..." and ported Spore to the 360/PS3. I guess it would have just been the creature creator crap.

"...the things you can do on Wii that you can't do on other platforms right now."

I'd love to know what he thinks those are, but I assume he means to tank, which would follow in the same theme as the PC version of Spore.

consoles can't handle a game like spore! enough said that is why it's on the pc. You can't run certen genres on consoles they are so limiting!

QuennaKolkata

@Deus-Ex: well he's Will Wright not Forum Troll number 420. Even if he personally felt that he's not going to say that in public.

@Deus-Ex: lol,360/ps3 cant handle the spore title screen!

Surprised he didn't say Xbox/PS3 couldn't handle it!

Deus-Ex

@SeraphX2: Obviously you don't have the wiifit board.

Deus-Ex

@bigman88zz: Yeah actually it probably couldn't and that's the sad thing. You can't install a whole game on to your xbox or ps3 and run through the entire game without ever putting the disc in duhhh!

Deus-Ex

@QuennaKolkata: So, user created things running about in user created worlds? Because I think LBP would like a word with you.

PaddyStardust

Come on...I don't think for a moment that 360 or ps3 can't handle spore in anyway that the DS can. Now if he's saying that other factors are considered then that is fine...It has nothing to do with the game itself. More like business decission. Game like that would probably have crappy sales on ps3 and 360 so it didn't justify creating for it. That's the simple answer.

Thai Tea

@4nonymo: "with the things you can do on Wii that you can't do on other platforms right now."

And maybe I'm just totally missing something, but the Wii doesn't have anything different to offer than other consoles except the waggle.

@QuennaKolkata: *facepalm*

@4nonymo: I don't know if you dissing the man or praising him lol. Will Wright is probably the up there with the leets such as Shigeru Miyamoto and John Carmack. God The Sims 3 is going to be amazing regardless of DRM.

Deus-Ex

@4nonymo: "the things you can do on Wii that you can't do on other platforms right now"

= waggle?

trevortibble

Short version: "We wanted to stick it to the consoles."

So they didn't have the time to try and shoehorn the real game onto consoles, and instead they decided to use the rabid hype to cash in on the wii's motion controls and the ds stylus by making half assed ports.

@WhatTheFrag: Due to the untenable fact that the last game Will Wright had on a console that I somewhat enjoyed was the SimCity for SNES, doesn't make up for the other fact that console version of his games always get shafted simply because consoles can't handle the awesomeness that is Will Wright's games. Seriously quit bitching that you want Spore on your consoles. The game doesn't have any demanding specs at all! Seriously if your complaining about not being able to run it, I think your being a tad bit cheap.

Deus-Ex

@QuennaKolkata: I'm more of a PC user myself, so I am a bit biased when it comes to that... but sir, -1 to you for uninformed statement.

Penny29

Developers get to decide what they want to develop for. If they lose sales because they left out a market, it's their own problem. They're not "sticking it" to anyone... they don't care. They just want to maximize profitability vs. development cost.

ps360blows

@SeraphX2: Spore relies mostly on the mouse.. the only console out there with a decent substitute for a mouse is the Wii.

Also, the whole creature customization things fits perfectly with the Wii mass crowd.

@Deus-Ex: Anti-piracy mneasure anyone? What would stop someone immediately trading it back in? And what the hell is so wrong with putting in a disc? Its not like the drive would be used for anything else while you're gaming would it? Should I finish on another question mark?

PaddyStardust

@Deus-Ex:

But... you can. The installations on 360 is the full game. Disc is only needed for verification that you own it. It only reads from it at the start of the game and then the rest is from the HDD.

@Thai Tea: Exactly, and to me that seems perfectly fine. Developers can develop (or not develop) for whatever they want. If it means fewer sales, it's THEIR problem, not the consumer's. No biggie.

ps360blows

@Deus-Ex:

You seriously think consoles can't handle spore?

I think the question should be: Can will wright actually make a good console game.

@PaddyStardust: First of all I was kidding, I was poking fun at the people who make fun of Xbox because of games like Lost Odyssey for having 4 discs. You know what prevents any of us PC gamers from trading the game back in? MAJOR COMPANIES LIKE GAMESTOP OR AMAZON DON'T ACCEPT TRADE-INS FOR PC GAMES!!!!

Besides how is it piracy if your allowed to install a game on your xbox/ps3 with a legit copy and selling it again?

There are some beneficial consequences in being able to run a game without a disc....Such as loosing a game disc (which rarely happens to me)so you can still play it, not wearing out the disc drive, being able to install it on multiple computers, and most importantly not being able to put in a bloody disc whenever I need to play a damn game.

Deus-Ex

Wow - what a way to say a shitload while saying absolutely nothing concrete, and though I am not looking forward to seeing Spore on the consoles I see no reason for not having a PS3/360 ports. Sure - the controls would have to be streamlined a bit, but other than that and perhaps a resolvable issue or two with content sharing - it would've been a perfect fit. A Wii port sounds retarded - "...the things you can do on Wii that you can't do on other platforms right now.", well for one - you can fumble endlessly with an infuriatingly imprecise novelty controller... and then you can grind your teeth in frustration when your internal storage fills up after three creatures you save on it. Oh, and let's not forget that Wii is essentially a Gamecube with a waggle-stick attachment - so you can expect a major pain in the ass cramming a modern game onto that.

@Deus-Ex: No.. he's no fanboy :)

@CockroachMan: A decent substitute? So plugging in a real keyboard and mouse to the PS3 doesn't count?

@Deus-Ex: And what are you gonna do with a wiifit board? Fly your spaceships? I don't really think that's a good selling point.

Cause moving a pointer using an analog stick sucks?

Glad it didn't come out on the 360, may have just bought it.

Kasuli

That and he rather have people pirate his game apparently.

@DarkFalzX: Wow, just get the PC version it doesn't demand to much of your computer. BTW Gamecube was an awesome system so stfu.

(Animal Crossing, Double Dash, Mario Sunshine, Metroid series, LoZ: Wind Waker, FTW)

Deus-Ex

@DarkFalzX: Wow, just get the PC version it doesn't demand to much of your computer. BTW Gamecube was an awesome system so stfu.

(Animal Crossing, Double Dash, Mario Sunshine, Metroid series, LoZ: Wind Waker, FTW)

Deus-Ex

@Tiso Spencer: Not a bad game.. but nothing special.. also, it's a totally different game.

@Tiso Spencer: Not a bad game.. but nothing special.. also, it's a totally different game.

@CockroachMan: Valid point. A cursor with a mouse is much better than a cursor with a joypad.

Deus-Ex

@CockroachMan: Valid point. A cursor with a mouse is much better than a cursor with a joypad.

Deus-Ex

@Anarchist_Gamer: Long time ago. It's not the same game thou.

@Anarchist_Gamer: Long time ago. It's not the same game thou.

@DarkFalzX: Troll much? Seriously, though, your remarks, while stemming from a true place, are scathing.

@DarkFalzX: Troll much? Seriously, though, your remarks, while stemming from a true place, are scathing.

@SeraphX2: Dude Wiifit is like the bestest thing to touch this side of the mississippi! I can do yoga! I bet you can't do yoga on your xbox.....oh wait...nvm you can! But not on the PS3!

Deus-Ex

@SeraphX2: Dude Wiifit is like the bestest thing to touch this side of the mississippi! I can do yoga! I bet you can't do yoga on your xbox.....oh wait...nvm you can! But not on the PS3!

Deus-Ex

How was Spore on DS again?

Tiso Spencer

@SeraphX2: The difference is that a keyboard and a mouse are not the default PS3 control method..

Wii Spore confirmed. Right?

How was Spore on DS again?

Tiso Spencer

So, Will Wright is a Nintendo fanboy, we get it.

hardly_working

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): Can't be a fanboy when you enjoy games on all systems (yes including wii). I own a 360, PS3, Wii, and a gaming PC and each system has their pros and cons, but when you have them all it just = win.

I would just say that the "streamlined" controls for Spore on consoles such as the PS3 and 360 would just absolutely undeniably suck.

Deus-Ex

Translation: I think waving arms around like an idiot is unique. But because i say so, its going to be new

Spore was a shallow, boring game. The lead up to the space phase was so boring (especially the tribal phase) and once I got to the space phase and did 10 missions, I was bored out of my mind. I got MUCH more enjoyment out of the creature, building and vehicle editors than the game itself.

I wanted Spore more than just about any other game before it came out, but I was hugely disappointed after I got my hands on it.

That being said, I think I would have enjoyed it much more on the 360.

...Am I on a different planet? How can anyone look at the Wii and see anything like what's in that little blurb?

You shake the remote. You point at the screen. That's it. It's not Jesus.

Moonshadow101

I smell fresh BS. He knew his game was going to be overhyped crap and wanted to minimize the negative feed back by not releasing it on the two largest platforms. Can he say with a straight face that user content oppertunities and new possibilities for creativity can't happen on the 360 or PS3?

Hey, Will! Ever hear of Little Big Planet?? Yeah, being able to visit other player's worlds or share creature creations would have sucked big time.

Stupid douche.

I smell fresh BS. He knew his game was going to be overhyped crap and wanted to minimize the negative feed back by not releasing it on the two largest platforms. Can he say with a straight face that user content oppertunities and new possibilities for creativity can't happen on the 360 or PS3?

Hey, Will! Ever hear of Little Big Planet?? Yeah, being able to visit other player's worlds or share creature creations would have sucked big time.

Stupid douche.

@Rinaldus: Cause it's totally impossible to pirate a 360 game, right?

@Rinaldus: Cause it's totally impossible to pirate a 360 game, right?

@Vecha:

You mean. Can he make a good game.

Jerpar

@Deus-Ex: And where exactly did he say the GameCube wasn't?

@CockroachMan: It's less likely, and I don't know of anyone who's done pirating on the PS3. PC/Wii games are pirated like NUTS. Games such as World of Goo and MadWorld are more than enough proof of the heavy pirating happening on the two systems.

@Vecha: I think Deus-Ex was being ironic.

Penny29

@CockroachMan: I hate using the wiimote for a mouse. Just pointing and clicking through menus to get to a game is a chore for me, much less games where I have to point and click the whole time.

Too bad Spore is boring.

@Moonshadow101: Praise the Wii! Amen!

@PaddyStardust: But how can i burn my dowloaded movies if i have a disc in the drive already.
/sarcasm

m0unstr0

@Deus-Ex: Ah yes, they dont accept trade ins on PC games, but they do for consoles, which is what I was clubhandedly getting at. What would stop someone buying the game at a supermarket, taking it home, copying it and bringing it right back? Major retailers like GAME have measures in place to stop this kinda thing but the supermarkets are far less strict.

I wonder as well that if devs went to the trouble of making it legal to copy discs to your box of choice, why not just go digital download only and be done with it? And I guess once that happens, goodbye tradein market.

PaddyStardust

Spore had all of the potential in the world to be a ground-breaking, amazing experience. But the execution took it away from being an evolution simulator. Imagine the possibilities if one were to pick from a group of DNA strands, and watch as the creatures evolve or fail depending upon the environment and other user-evolved creatures. That was the promise of Spore, but what we got was a cutesy game with cutesy user-created creatures, and was fun to play for maybe 90 minutes or so. If it released on either the 360 or the PS3 in its present state it would bomb horribly.

bornonce

The DS and iPhone versions were utterly bewilderingly disappointing and downgraded, so why DID they release spore on those two platforms???

@[forum.spore.com]

@little computer freund: Cell stage only in the iPhone version. And for the DS, a bastardized Creature Mode. PC version was obviously the only way to go.

@Mr.SithNinja:
I'm amazed, and glad, that you dare to call ps3/360 the two largest platforms, and noone jumps in with "but the wii sells more!". I had enought of that

@Thai Tea: Read the interview post conveniently provided at the top of the page and you'll get the answer you're clamoring for.

RockyRan

why ? because the game blows chunks

anduin1

@Rinaldus: You realize that Spore sold 2 million copies in about 2 weeks, right?

dLMN8R

So I am reading most people think its retarded and stupid that spore is not on the console.

So why can't PC users have little big planet or say Metal gear solid 4 or Gears of war 2 for that matter.

I don't seem making any effort.

Corran006

@4nonymo:

Wow console people getting bent out of shape here. I guess PC can't have anything without console getting it.

PC users sure don't get every game under the sun as most console users. how about us have a few games.

heaven forbid He just wants to focus on the PC, like so many other game makers do with the consoles.

Corran006

@PaddyStardust: The biggest part is the amount of information Spore kept track of. Consoles would definitely have a harder time due to RAM limitations

Shin-san

Well it's not because the game's too complex, that's for darn sure.

/bitter

@Deus-Ex: And your point? It was a PC game first. Very easy to port the control scheme over and let the user choose.

@Deus-Ex: *shrug* If I want to do yoga, I'll go get a real teacher.

I think the Wii is really unique in that sense, with the things you can do on Wii that you can't do on other platforms right now. Wow really? I didn't know motion controls were so "unique" anymore. I figured after two years the thrill of "OMG IT GOES WHERE MY HAND MOVES!" would kinda wear off.

svenhoek: When In Romero

People are just pissed off still that this game really wasn't what it was suppost to be.. What was recieved just really didn't meet expectations.

Because if people could have rented it, they would have found out that there's about 4 hours of entertainment and then it's just boring and repetitive.

MightyCow

The reason the game never made consoles is because they couldn't use their DRM on consoles and debilitate the game thereby making everyone interested in said game pirate it. Oh woe is me I didn't get to play this lame game.

@QuennaKolkata: Spore didn't do anything requiring a lot of resources. The "pre-tard" version may have, but the release would have run just fiiine on consoles. I ran it cranked on a pc that had lower hardware specs than a 360.

Frankly, I don't really know why he's even still talking about Spore, or why people are still interested. It was a terrible game, and a worse bait-and-switch than Hellgate, which is saying a damn lot. I vote we never acknowledge its existence again.

@PaddyStardust: OIC nao. kthnx for the clarification,

Deus-Ex

@Deus-Ex: Totally agree, Spore was such a massive let down after all the hype, i wanted it to be good, but it was so child like and tedious.

Jonathan Booth

its probably a lot more fun/interesting/funny/awesome when you're high. granted, people who do get high often probably see those creatures and can therefore relate.

I haven't had the slightest inclination to re-install Spore after paying full price for it a few months ago and getting a new hard drive. That said, just because Spore is a boring, imbalanced game doesn't mean that Will Wright is wrong. He's talking about a balanced business model. Console versions SHOULD provide something different.

Sustenance

Robot Wars with Wiimote in 3...2...1...

Gam3r

@Rinaldus: If comments are food, yours is McDonald's.

syafiqjabar

@CockroachMan: But all they have to do is say the game supports them and people will use it.