Activision Introduces Science Papa, No Relation

@Bubbleman!:

hell yea bro i love traditional gender roles *is from 1950*

splaa

@Bubbleman!:
First of all: If we are going to prove anything in relation to gender, it's not going to be "statistical fact"; it's going to be biological, chemical, social, or psychological "fact". Moreover, you haven't actually shown any "facts" to support your claim.

Second of all: The research you are referring to does indeed exist, but you've distorted its findings to suit your own argument. Research purports that children succeed coming from a TWO-parent household. It has nothing to do with gender-and that is exactly what many of these research articles have suggested. The reason a two-parent household is more successful is obvious: it's harder to raise a kid on your own.

As to your tough comment: I'm the exact same way except I don't lament my own docility. I am pleasurable to be around, compassionate, loving, friendly, social, and passive in the face of controversy. I have been called many good things because of this personality and I have (I think I do, at least) my mother to thank for instilling the virtues of kindness and stoicism within me. Being "tough" has nothing to do with being successful. Being successful is self-contained: We raise to the top because we complete the tasks set before us. We don't need to be "tough" if we're men; that's a social fallacy.

Next: If by "female problems" you mean her period, no, I don't, but obviously, that's just one facet to having a vagina. And there aren't that many. Being a woman is probably just as "complex" as being a man. Being FEMININE, on the other hand can be difficult but you don't need to be a good parent and teach "femininity" and "masculinity." If I raise a daughter, like hell would I know how to make a ponytail or paint a toenail! But if my daughter didn't know these things, she'd still succeed because being "feminine" and being "masculine" are socially constructed states of being. We don't need them to get by.

Now, I find it funny that you've all of a sudden moved from "Transsexual/Asexual" parents to "Same-sex" parents. Please pick your argument: Are you arguing FOR a gendered household, or are you arguing FOR a heterosexual household? There's a big, big difference.

Regardless, you're absolutely right: Men and women do provide different things and yet, we. Don't. Need. Either. We don't need burettes. We don't need football pads. We don't need mascara. We don't need wifebeaters. It's all social bullshit. It's just stuff. It's just blue and pink. Blue, which I hate. Pink, which I love. And I'm still breathin'.

7Vyse

@CustomFirmware:
It was an idiotic statement sure, but what does him using facebook have to do with anything?

Terence Polk

@Muckamuck: Sooooo.... we're still on Namek?

@Bubbleman!: I was with you...until you got off the center into ridiculous territory... Kinda like with the Tony Hawk franchise.

Anyways, Just a heads up. Some people are sensitive for a reason...

PC when taken too far is pretty bad, but too often does the lack of consideration for others leads to to more than just "broken feelings."

Also, "civil unions" reeks of "separate but equal."

@GriefTroll: you dont see animals posting on kotaku arguing about it, now do you?

guess what? maybe you SHOULD eat babies.

after all, what is right and what is wrong is just a social construction anyways....

heh.

Bubbleman!

@CommentatorHatman: Seriously WTF they just grab what ever they freaking can! I really do hate companies that do that for profit. Shame on you activision it only makes you look like bigger douches!

Martin Guerrero

@Chirish: GENDER IS JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION?!

wow

just wow....

WOW. THE IGNORANCE ON THIS THREAD IS DOWNRIGHT SCARY.

Bubbleman!

Expect a lawsuit. Surely, the general game buying public will assume it's made by the same company as their beloved Cooking Mama?

Lawsuit. Yes. I see it in the future. Call me....

Psychic Papa.

@7Vyse: and im completely against that myself. everybody is different for a reason. and i also happen to think that japanese women are the most beautiful women in the world, and this is coming from a whitey.

and children, in most cases, DO need gender influences. in fact, it's a statistical fact. children that come from a home where there are both a male and female presence are much more likely to succeed in their adult lives, regardless of whether or not the parents have a disposable income.

and to add more fuel to the fire, i grew up with just my mom, in a house with my aunt and my grandmother. as a result of that, i wasn't as "tough" as i needed to be during my developmental years. i never had a male presence around me to instill fear in me. sure, lots and lots of people grew up with really tough single moms and turned out just fine, but in the vast majority of cases, that doesnt hold true.

i was 6 ft 1 when i was 14, during my delinquent days. do you think my 5 ft 2 mother was going to discipline me in any kind of way and me actually take it seriously? hell no. i didnt. did i also fail to mention that my mother suffers from fibromyalgia? i needed to have my dad around to help equip me for certain things in life that only a father can teach his son, and he wasnt.

do you think a single father with a little girl is going to be able to relate to her and all of her "female problems"?. no.

so how can a child benefit from having 2 parents of the same sex, who actually wish and act like they were of the opposite sex? how is that supposed to prepare them, emotionally, for the harsh realities of the world we live in?

and please, do not take this as me saying that homosexuals should not have children, because that would be total bullshit. im simply saying that men and women can provide different things that the other cannot.

there is no getting around that, no matter who you are and what liberal viewpoints you have.

Bubbleman!

@MtlAngelus: Wait, that can't be right. When did Vegeta's hairline start moving forward?

@CustomFirmware: What?

@Automageddon!:

Now Science Pope is a game I'd actually be interested in playing!

@Bialia: you do realize other intelligent posters agreed with me, rather than jump the gun and start spewing bile, right?

and the only reason i listed those other topics is because people are so godamn sensitive. just because science has an answer for everything doesnt mean people should go around using it as an excuse to live a lifestyle that mother nature has deemed insufficient.

i have no problem with gay people at all. in fact, i 100% approve of gay civil unions. just not marriage.

Bubbleman!

@thaGreatness: did I say "cooking papa?" I meant "science papa." no relation to "copyright attorney uncle"

thaGreatness

@Azures: Perhaps you should wait until you learn a little more about this "cooking Papa" before you pass judgement. He could very well be the main character's father, longing to connect with his estranged son as he tearfully coaxes him into performing an unnecessarily elaborate DNA test in the form of 30 fun-filled mini games.

thaGreatness

@Paradox me:

LOL

CustomFirmware

@Lyner: "Humor is everywhere, in that there's irony in just about anything a human does"?

@grantevans:

You use facebook.

/thread.

CustomFirmware

@Chirish: But... I have incisors! And a penis! Why shouldn't I eat babies and rape females like other animals do??? It's my nature!

@Bialia: I could've sworn I had given you my heart before... here it is again: +1

@grantevans: Cooking Mama might inspire a girl to cook. Said girl might cook dinner for you later in life. I'll take a warm meal I didn't have to make over knowing the periodic tables any day.

Cooking Mama > Science Papa

omyard

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: Not really, I'm not engaging in the argument, I'm just pointing out that he doesn't actually have a solid argument there and that's why people are upset. The burden of proof is on him. Also, the Naturalistic fallacy is a pretty established argument, look it up.

@Bubbleman!: I don't have a problem with two trans parents at all. After all, gender is just a social construction. Two trans people are just as capable as two hetero-normative people at providing a strong masculine and strong feminine influences (assuming that they are necessary to be a functioning person).
Your "rich surgery" hypothetical doesn't really move me. You have all rights to work as hard as necessary (in an ethical way, of course) to become as rich as you desire, and if there were a lab that could make you rich, and wasn't immoral/illegal, I'd say go for it. However, there is no lab that can make you rich, but it is possible for women to defy stereotypes that say they have stay at home and take care of the kids... Thus I believe that your hypothetical doesn't hold water.
As for the race argument, believe it or not people do work at changing their skin color and physical appearance to appear more white... So if that's important to you, then yes, go ahead and change your physical appearance. Since we live in a Capitalist society, if there's enough demand for it, a market will grow. It's not like it affects anyone's quality of life but whoever makes the decision to do as such.

Chirish

@Bubbleman!: Quit throwing around that fucking phrase! He's a commenter, just like you, you filthy "forum activist".

@Methusalah: The irony, of course, is that there are societies where the genetics run in reverse. That is, women are more able to do jobs that we normally assume to be more suited to males.

@Bubbleman!:
What the hell are you talking about? Children don't "need" gender influences.

Furthermore: Japanese women ARE going out and getting blepharoplasties to make themselves look more white just like women all over the world frequently use skin whiteners to look more white; you don't hear about it much hear because... the FDA has banned those products. (Shocker).

7Vyse

@Methusalah:
"What's wrong with stating that a certain group of people is especially gifted when it comes to specific abilities?"

It's a lie, that's why.

7Vyse

Terribly lame.

Thank goodness the Ace Attorney series was before all this or we'd have Uncle Attorney or something.

protoman

if he says stuff like "BETTA DEN PAPA", I'm going to be a little creeped out

@Bubbleman!: Dude that's not Goku, don't be ridiculous.

It's Vegeta.

@interim is known is aewyn in other circles: Why not just cite Bill Nye?

What is this crap? Is Nintendo trying to tell young children (their target audience) it's cool to be parents? Pretty soon we're gonna have a bunch of 8-year-old parents 'cause they were playing Cooking Mama meets Science Papa.

@Pezdispenser: Not really, it certainly sounds delicious.

Bialia

@Bialia:

Should I be ashamed that the word Tornada makes me crave tacos?

@tinky XIII: What do you have against anime style art?

Valnen

@Bialia: tornado, not tornada. heh heh. oops.

Bialia

@Bubbleman!: You begin by educating us all about what Mother Nature dictates. Ok, whatever.

But then- you reveal yourself to have a problem with same sex parents, "liberal pussies," "feminists" etc. You've called someone a "french bastard." You've told people with opposing viewpoints to shove said viewpoints up their asses. You've also, in a brilliant, baffling turn, managed to imply that social class is somehow equivalent to race or gender. Oooh, ooh, ooh- and you've equated homosexuals with both transexuals and transvestites! And let us not forget that people who disagree with you and call you out are "thin-skinned forum activists."

You're like a tornado ripping through here. A hilarious, oblivious tornada.

Seriously, why does everyone have such a problem with you? You're just "telling it like it is."

/facepalm

Bialia

@n00b_pwner: !

Activision has creativity?!

@CommentatorHatman:

Looks like I got to the party late...

All I have to say is, no amount of arguing is going to change anyone's mind. All it's going to do is give everyone a big head ache and make the world a worse place than it already is just by association. Ergo, we should all just drop this nonsense and move on with our lives.

Also, if you suspect someone of flame baiting, the last thing we need is for you to throw more fuel on the fire. Debate it if you want, but stop insulting each other in the process.

@Azures: The game enforces gender roles of the traditional patriarchy by assuming that cooking, and housetasks for that matter, are for women, while science related subjects are for men. The game could very well be gender neutral. /feminazi

Fernando Jorge

@ssh83: The science guy?

@grantevans:

Are you serious?! You haven't even fucking played Science Papa yet.

And there you have it.

@NoHoldsBarred:
It'll be even better if Science Papa outsells Cooking Mama.

But I guess the joke will ring too close to home to a few people. But at least we'll be able to charge Activision with a domestic violence suit.

And this is about the summum of creativity you will find at Activision.

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):
- Blatant rip-off of another person's intellectual property. AGAIN.

@1ncorporated: Which makes the main difference between normal discussion and flamebait one main thing: Intent. And as to the intent, I don't personally see any good reason to say what he said here other than to piss people off. Which is enough for me to consider it flamebait. And if the intent was for an actual debate, I don't think he would have called me a "thin skinned douchebag".

@Bubbleman!: No, but YOU however, are.

@waywardchemist: What female dominated society had the women do all the hard labor while the men sat at home taking care of the household?

Please, please get sued Activision.

@emwurst: IIRC, Mario actually says "Here we goooo!" when you get a star in Super Mario 64.

@1ncorporated: Well, he uses "domesticated" wrong. Pets and farm animals are domesticated, not a word most would apply to women.

His statement that men "are supposed to play the provider role" simply indicates he was likely raised in a male dominated society. Female dominant societies have existed (a few still might, been a while since I've sat through a sociology lecture) which means what he thinks is "natural" is just a residual byproduct of the culture he was raised in.

It might not be flamebait (I kind of think it is), but it seems to be an uninformed opinion drawn from a limited knowledge base that doesn't conincide with observed reality.

I don't know if I'd want to learn science from that guy - looks like he's already managed to blow one of his fingers off.

Bael

@Jean-François L'Her: no. please dont be condescending i was saying that obviously the have a winning formula with the series cooking mama garden mama. obviously papa was the next logical step.

Alfie Roberts

@hodayathink: Stoya's personal Android developer:

Yes, again, by that logic... all opinions that people might disagree with would be considered flamebait. Like your comment about considering all opinions against yours as flamebait. My head. Do you see where this is going?

@shimage: Pretty sure I'm still being reasonable. Everything you pointed out supports my point. There are certain abilities that come more easily to specific groups of people and there is nothing wrong with pointing this out.

if this teaches me about science then gimme, I want. Seriously, i want more DS games that teach you stuff that you had difficulty learning in school because it wasn't taught in intuitively through a mechanism like guitar or something.

tnmnsquare

@1ncorporated: And just so we're clear, I don't actually disagree with his original statement. But that statement was posted with the full knowledge that people would be upset about it, and respond angrily. Hence, it was 'bait' that people would 'flame' against. I'm of the opinion (however unpopular it may be) that just because it is true doesn't make it any less incendiary.

@1ncorporated: omg i love you. you need to get on national television and tell the rest of the world this. being politically correct is for the weak minded.

and not being pc doesnt mean youre a racist,sexist or homophobe either.

Bubbleman!

@UncleSephiroth:
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr....maybe it's a complete waste of time and money, you choose.

Or maybe it's more like Science papá, which is Spanish for potato.

@Chirish: so you would've had no problem growing up with 2 transvestite parents who are not your biological parents and couldn't provide you with the male and female influences most children need in order to grow up as strong individuals?

this is all very grey area stuff here. im all for science that will save peoples lives, but when it comes to messing with gender and all that.....i dont know, there's a reason only women can have babies and only men have a penis.

i wanted to be born rich but i wasnt. does that mean i have the right to go into a lab or doctors office and have them somehow give me a machine or surgical operation to change that?

how about white people that want to be black, japanese, whatever? should we start offering operations to people who are unhappy with their ethnic heritage?

Bubbleman!

If Cooking Mama and Science Papa got into a fight, who would win?

Oh good, I thought Majesco did make this one too. I was gonna say, what, Mama's not good enough to teach science?

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: tell me about it. my friend is dating this super left-wing, liberal from canada. shes a nightmare to hang out with. you can't say one negative thing about ANYONE without her having a fucking fit over it. even my other friends girlfriends cant stand her because she has such a "feminist" attitude towards everything. well, when it's convenient for her, at least.

some people just arent equipped to deal with the harsh realities of the real world i guess.

Bubbleman!

@Akua: You broke some rules there. I am sure of it.

@Chirish: Isn't what you describe a fallacy? Nature is an ecosystem that adopts to its own survival. I.E. it will not create anything that destroys itself and only outside forces may do that.

Just because it seems logical to us, doesn't make it logical at all. Some people think it would be logical if all beings on earth stopped eating meat, but that would be dangerous for nature, so nature has some creatures eat meat.

IMO, the only illogical thing that ever came from nature is the human's ability to think.

@Jean-François L'Her: no. i never said that.

but while we're on the subject. im pretty sure that women werent fending for themselves during the ice age and most of mankind's history leading up to the 19th century. otherwise, none of us would be here right now. especially you, you french bastard.

take your liberal viewpoints and shove them right up your ass. your kind is going to grow up to be a whiny, think skinned pussy because he had parents that wanted to protect him from all the offensive crap people say on the internet.

Bubbleman!

@KingSeafoam: full of win.

SoulSiphon

@Bubbleman!: Who the hell ever said I was cool?

And back to my other point, what exactly does women being domesticated and men being stronger have to do with either being a chef or being a scientist?

@hodayathink: Stoya's personal Android developer:

Then you'll be pleased to know that I whipped out my account from inactivity just because your idiotic statements are torquing me off. With that logic we can clarify your comments as flamebait.

Where the hell is the intent in his original post to incite anger. Is his original statement blatantly false? I don't see it. He never said anything about how woman can't work in a science labs, he just said that they are the traditional roles. Which they are, unless you'd like to rewrite history to your insane notion of political correctness.

@Akua: Indeed.

Gray665

@Methusalah: You may think you're being reasonable, but recent research shows that women are, in fact, better than men at math, so long as they aren't socialized to avoid learning it. Men are still better at geometry, and most things that require spatial .... not sure what the word is ... cognition? So, chess, sports, map-reading, etc are still things one would expect men to be better at than women, but "science" is not one of those things. The problem is that stupid games like these that teach little girls that their proper place is in the kitchen or garden, not in the lab. A self-fulfilling prophecy, if you will.

@hodayathink: Stoya's personal Android developer: no its not. and your not cool for being a forum activist, your just a thin skinned douchebag who wants cool points for thinking he "sure told that guy".

Bubbleman!

@Bubbleman!: I think people are just upset that you are committing an old school logical fallacy (namely, the Naturalistic Fallacy, or you can refer to the "Is/Ought" distinction). Just because something is the case in nature, does not mean that it is morally nor logically right. As humans, we are gifted in not being bound to our genetics. Any argument that says that a person should do x because they were born with y comes off as trying to maintain the status quo instead of describing the state of things.

Chirish

@Bubbleman!: If it makes you feel better, I understand fully well what you're saying is correct and won't throw a fit just because it stopped being politically correct. God forbid anyone saying a woman isn't exactly like a man. Of course, they also have deeper voices, sturdier builds and a penis.

People should be less sensitive. We are different, but don't treat it like it's a bad thing. There are reasons for these sorts of thing that aren't "Person A less worth less than Person B".

@Bubbleman!: Let em' come. If they can't see that you were just making a general observation(which for the most part is true(there are some exceptions(i love parenthesises))) then they really need to open their eyes and think for themselves.

@Moonshadow101: really now? jeez, here we go.

you know we wouldnt be where we are right now if men didn't do all that physical labor building buildings, harvesting crops, overthrowing countries and all that.

and we would be nowhere without the women to nurture our ancestors as children, dictate to men how to rule and have the almighty power of being female (wink wink)to alter the coarse of history.

Bubbleman!

@Daiden: Well.
If no one else is going to say it, I'll jump right out and say it.
"Tee hee."
Well done, Daiden.

So, you're actually wondering why there hasn't been a patent on either "mama" or "papa" yet? Brains? Brains!!

Jean-François L'Her

@Akua: just like how women can have babies and men cant but TOGETHER they can...without the aid of science!

but lets not start that argument because im sure the activists will come out in full force to tell me how im a homophobic racist biggot who smells like sour gym socks and that's why i live under a bridge.

Bubbleman!

@emwurst: Ah, Alcoholic Uncle. The collector's edition comes with a "meat puppet" Wiimote attachment. If you go the rest of your life without telling anyone you saw it, Nintendo sends you the coveted "Tear-Stained Pillow" award!

@Automageddon!: Actually, without an accent on the last "a", "papa" is a potato in Spanish.

That man is most definitely not a potato.

I call false advertising on this one.

Sir_Pennyworth

@Bubbleman!: A simple definition of flamebait:

A message written with intent to offend\anger\enrage other persons, so that they will send a flaming message in reply.

No matter how true your statement may be, it fits that description to a T.

@I_Hate_This_Place: lmao. so very true.

Bubbleman!

@[www.vgcats.com]

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@Methusalah: which all these people obviously cannot comprehend.

i want to start a petition against the word "troll" because its being used on forums like these in a way that is more a self-defense mechanism to an opposing opinion than an actual insult against 50% of the logical points made on threads like these.

oh look at me! im teh internet guyz! i say all kinds of witty things like...

"Cold"

"troll"

"flamebait"

etc,etc. and guess what? all the other forum people thinks that ims coolz because i sure told those guyz that did typed something i didnt like that they smell like poo poo!

Bubbleman!

@Bubbleman!: do you actually have a little fancy scene with Caveman coming back from the hunt so Cavewoman can cook it on the campfire ? some people should be shot.

Jean-François L'Her

@emwurst: That will be a first day purchase!

StevenRafael

@Methusalah: Except we now live in a world where physical strength has all of absolutely nothing to do with being able to provide for one's family. Therefore, "Men are naturally physically stronger and are supposed to play the provider role." is silly.

Moonshadow101

@hodayathink: Stoya's personal Android developer: i was making a point.

Bubbleman!

@erlik: that wasn't the point i was making.

Bubbleman!

@The_IT_Crone: obvious internet fool who throws words like "troll" around, without using it in the proper context is obvious.

Bubbleman!

@Methusalah: He's right. People are not born equal in all areas. For example black and white people have the same types of muscles but the structure of them is different. Just an example of how even though we are the same species it doesn't stop the fact that some might be NATURALLY better than others at some things.

@KingSnorky: Seconded.

StevenRafael

science and mini games, together at last...

@Bubbleman!: Oh, and what exactly does any of that have to do with women being chefs and men being scientists?

@Daiden: Next Up: Baseball Junior!

@Methusalah: agreed.

@Arceus: I think of Jane's Addiction.

KingSnorky

@Methusalah: Don't go making sense around these parts, it dampens the forum "activists" egos.

If Cooking Mama outsells Science Papa, I can't wait for the Mama beating Papa jokes.

NoHoldsBarred

@Methusalah: I'm sorry, but no matter how true or not true Bubbleman's comment is, that's one of the most obvious cases of flamebait I have ever seen.

I can't help but bring up -
[www.vgcats.com]

@Bubbleman!: Women could never lift the beakers in a lab.

And have you ever seen a chick try to start a Bunsen burner? A laugh riot, that.

erlik

@The_IT_Crone: Wow, talk about hypersensitive. What's wrong with stating that a certain group of people is especially gifted when it comes to specific abilities? Bubbleman never said that males are incapable of nurturing or that females are unable to succeed at being providers or becoming physically strong.

Would you throw a fit if I pointed out that tall people have an easier time grabbing an item off the top shelf than short people? Of course not. Would it be wrong to deny a short person a job removing items from the top shelf simply because it would be a bit more difficult for them to reach? I would say so. It isn't evil to acknowledge that specific groups of people are more likely to excel at specific tasks as long as we aren't banning those outside the group from taking a shot at it if they feel motivated to do so.

Identifying the characteristics of a particular group of people can be an invaluable tool as long as it doesn't lead to bigotry.

Topped off with terrible derivative manga-"inspired" art from some third-rate Deviantart poster no less. I'm so there.

@Arceus: For some reason, I got a Mario 64 vibe. Of course, Mario says "Let's-a-go!", but if you say "Here we go!" in a Mario voice, it works.

emwurst

@emwurst: And I think some Japanese company has already released "Creepy Grandpa".

If you consider that Papa means Pope in Italian and you think about his positions on science, this title is hilarious!

@Gray665: Italian?

Wow. What more can I say Activision, except to once more repeat myself.

I call shenanigans.

@fearing: I've been very happy with EA for about a year now. I've yet to buy a game from them since then that disappointed me.

@grantevans: Am I supposed to make use of the scientific method to prove you wrong, or can I tie in my theory regarding your incorrectness to relativity?

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): I think he is refering to Activision BLATENTLY trying to rip off Majesco. He's right though I don't remember EA ever doing something like this(not off the top of my head anyway.)

If Cooking Mama and Science Papa defect to Ubisoft may they can use all thier money making cooking and science skillz to support some babyz...uh, imagine..... uh...dang, so close to a joke there somewhere.

im actually suprised majesco wasnt smart enough to patent a mama/papa series.

Alfie Roberts

nice one, activision. an asshole move if I ever saw one.
what is the point of directly stabbing at majesco like this? they wouldn't let you buy them out? sheesh. I'm all for making your money as long as it's legal, but this is insulting to majesco. not cool.

SoulSiphon

At this point I'm waiting for the Women's Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society game. It's overdue.

/effing ridiculous.

@Zeag: Well, I wouldn't go that far, EA still sucks for the most part. They do have some nice developers that they've bought out though.
Activision, on the other hand, somehow got WORSE after themselves being bought out.

@Paradox me: +1

SoulSiphon

What bothers me more than the name is that this is unabashedly another collection of minigames. It's like they're not even trying.

Cloral

@Bubbleman!: Obvious troll is obvious.

@Bubbleman!: Ignore, move on.

Science Hero

Paradox me

@grantevans: You haven't played Science Papa. That was easy.

BossVersion1

Let's consider taking that design back to the drawing board, Activision. We're both better than this.

If they can get Bill Nye, I'd buy this game. lmao

ssh83

Legal plagiarism. Noice.

@grantevans: Cooking Mama > Science Papa. Prove me wrong.

Cloral

@Gray665: I thought of The Big Bang Theory, it's what his friends say whenever Sheldon goes off on a tangent.

Arceus

@Bubbleman!: Flame bait.

@CHunterX: I hate Bobby Koteck as much as the next guy but what's Activision done now to get your anger boiling?

mama at the kitchen
papa at the lab
where's the kids? all working in diamond mines in Africa

BlitzGrilo learned PK Starstorm

Science Papa...must be a long lost relative. Disclaimer: my last name is Papa.

Gray665

@Daiden: Its not really stereotypical. Mother nature has dictated things to be this way. Women are just naturally more domesticated and equipped to nurture children. Men are naturally physically stronger and are supposed to play the provider role.

This is how things are. Unless you want to get involved in the genetics field and do something about it.

Bubbleman!

Activsion has become the new gaming overlord and EA is the favorite underdog. How much difference a few years make in gaming!!!

@Erignamatic: I thought of The Dark Knight.

Gray665

@Neonox: I think of Elite Beat Agents, personally.

Fuck you Activision. This is worse than EA ever was.

Will there be a minigame where you feed lab rats LSD? If so, count me in!

Can't wait for Alcoholic Uncle!

emwurst

The name didn't hit me till after I read the post. I feel slow. Either way, I can see how it could be fun, but at the same time, I'm sure they could have thought of a different name?

I love the stereotypical portrayal of household roles: Mama in the kitchen and Papa off working as a scientist. Amazing role models for our children.

Daiden

Science Papa? It isn't even clever, on top of not making any sense.

@Pill_Hell_Tom:
Is it normal to think of Crazy Taxi every time I read "Here we go"?

Man, Goku got old as fuck yo.

Bubbleman!

Science Papa > Cooking Mama. Prove me wrong.

Here we go.

I loooove science. It was my favorite subject in school.

Hopefully this game might actually be kinda good.

@sentroshi: Look up some stuff about Soviet Russia's science experiments. It's sure to get you hooked back.
Or maybe scare you away forever.

ZombiePuppy

Of course only men are a part of this discussion. Women would ruin it by talking about shoes and fashion.

DreamoftheEndless

@CustomFirmware: usually implies not always so usually always is wrong thus...

malfeat

@Terence Polk:

Facebookers are usually always wrong. :]

CustomFirmware

@Azures:
This calls for an interview with some hard-hitting questions about the inspiration for this game's name.

Blah8

@Bubbleman!:
Seriously, though, what's with all the other characters looking like they're constipated? And shiny!

[kotaku.com]

Blah8

@n00b_pwner: butcher knifes vs. test tubes?
...

Ten bucks on the Mama.

Nudgenudge

@Bubbleman!: Firstly- you've got some confusion happening between one's biological sex, and one's gender, which is absolutely a social construct. Although there is much overlap, gender roles and gender "identifiers" vary greatly from culture to culture. Some of this has to do with our biology, and a lot of it is actually pretty arbitrary and in a state of constant flux.

And second, whether or not the people who understand what you're saying are spewing bile, only you are tasked with representing yourself. Just throwing that out there.

For the rest of what I was gonna say, just refer to 7Vyse. He basically said everything else I wanted to say.

With one exception- why are you okay with same sex civil unions and not same sex marriage?

Bialia

Science Papa. Cooking Mama.

I expect Rule 34 to burn my eyes no later than tomorrow evening.

@Neonox:
Yeah, me too, but then my eighth grade teacher ruined it for me. Haven't had a good science teacher since third grade. She's ruined my life. I hate science now. T_T

sentroshi

@saulpimpson: Science is a series of mini games.

@siggy13: Niether of these titles are actually made by Nintendo.

@Mit: I think of Morpheus' line in the Matrix. (Think it was in the trailer for Reloaded.)

Hopefully this will spur a flurry of kids getting their hands on some household chemicals trying to imitate fantasy and blow up their houses.

ssoltero

@Bubbleman!: Yeah... Gender is a social construction. Sex and Gender are two different things.

Chirish

@hodayathink: Stoya's personal Android developer: Sssh! Now they'll think my comments either are the result of PMS or indicative of me denying my true nature as a passive, shoe-obsessed nurturer. ;)

Bialia

@Methusalah: Thank you for having common sense. It is severely lacking nowadays.

@Neonox: Sorry, but it's made by Activision, so probably not. As with most of their knockoffs, the original is probably more fun.

roq

@DreamoftheEndless: Bialia is a girl.

@Bialia: Don't worry, I'm a passive nurturer as well, though I tend to be more obsessed with T-shirts than shoes. Must be that whole being raised by a single mother thing.

As a hardcore gamer and microbiologist as a profession, this rocks!!! I expect i'll grumble at the science mistakes mind!

Lee Thomas Barrett

@Paradox me: Time required for random Kotaku poster to come up with a much better (and slightly less plagiarism-y) name? 25 minutes. Come on Activision, get it together. (=

DireWombat

@Bubbleman!: "Its not really stereotypical. Mother nature has dictated things to be this way. Women are just naturally more domesticated and equipped to nurture children. Men are naturally physically stronger and are supposed to play the provider role.

This is how things are. Unless you want to get involved in the genetics field and do something about it. "

I have no words for how silly this is. Right out of the gate with a failure to understand the definition of "stereotypical" (hint: unaffected by the truth or falsehood of the stereotype in question), then into a logical fallacy bookended on the one side by a misleadingly simplistic personification of human evolutionary biology, and on the other by an implicit claim to know the first thing about genetics. Wow. I don't know whether to babble incoherently in rage or stand back and deliver an awestruck "slow clap."

My favorite part might be the cadre of like-minded posters that sprang up to defend it for courageously speaking the truth, nevermind the total absence of a single correct assertion in the post. Believe me, being desperate to enshrine one's own ideas about society as laws of nature is a far worse handicap in the sciences than being a woman will ever be.

Ugh, why do I bother with this? I know it's not good for me, I know I should just recognize that people who are wrong on the internet aren't going to stop and move on with my life. Dang kids just get me so riled up...

DireWombat

@Muckamuck:

Napa, check your scouter again.

mjpm

Hey guys (and gals?), it's just a video game.

@Neonox: I loved it until I started Uni. Now I hate it with a passion.

@mjpm: He's over 9,000 years old, Vegeta.

Interim

@fearing: But they allow them on their platforms.