Another Rushmore — Console Only

@Aaronosuke: I cast my vote for Parappa the Rapper, myself.

@Rinaldus: Hai, Parappa the Rapper KTHNXBAI!!!

@XMonk: sir, please wear that Misfits avatar with pride because so far I feel like giving you a Danzig back hand to the face. and if you have any chill pills please send them over to me.

chang187

One of these things is not like the other...hmmmm

Battle Creek is a nice place.
Here in Michigan though, its really really tough for every kind of business.

NayThin

@Terrorsaur-Back from the grave!: wanna play with my neon green artificial hair?

chang187

@Gundragon: Snake = Playstation? your the first person i see saying such a thing...

actually Sony doesn't have a "face" indeed, but the only characters they have... Kratos, Ratchet and Clank.. and those little big planet dudes... no one else i believe

Hero-Link

@the_red_sage: What about CTR 1 and 2??

@dibbitydan: i was commenting on HIS comment.

i DID read the article. and for you information Twin Snakes got released at 2004!! Learn your Game History!

Hero-Link

@Combichristoffersen: He's trolling clearly.

@Bii Nii Wii Nii Politely Replaces You're Your with Your You...: What history?

@FreakyFavabean: True. His past history still entitles him to the spot IMHO.

@laencythe: You'd be referring to Toro the cat.

@ShaSt One: Meh...I don't think MC's got his feet wet enough yet to be up there.

@Ueziel:

Of course those games are nothing like Super Mario Galaxy! What made it so unique was the adorable bee costume! Nothing else can compare, even if they look the same and play similarly.

@Combichristoffersen: Still doesn't change the fact he's a gaming icon though.

@chang187:

Woah somebody is angry. I can't tell if you're serious or not. Take a chill pill.

My thoughts exactly, it is a sucky painting. I'd be annoyed if I'd commissioned and paid money for that.

=*( My how my dearest Kotaku has changed in the last 3 years.

Trolls up the ass nowadays T.T

Terrorsaur-Back from the grave!

@Hazmat_TOI: do you look like that when you smoke pot? oh, you don't smoke pot? well then SHUT THE FUCK UP.

chang187

@D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid: beaten, battered, abused, sodomized but above all loved.

chang187

@Sooku: I have played it. It's a stage where you blast from area to area and there is moon gravity. That isn't the same. I don't remember each individual area in Sonic Adventure 2 having its own gravitational pull depending on where you were.

They aren't the same. You might as well tell me that the Duck Tales Moon Stage is the same.

Just me or Mario looks like he smoked some pot and..has small boobs?

@chang187: you were beaten as a child weren't you?

D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: As my post could possibly be unclear, I was referring to classic Bomberman. As in the ones predating or during NES era.

Monolith

@Ueziel: If you had ever played Sonic Adventure 2, you would realize Mad Space was insanely similar to Mario Galaxy.

Now, I'm not saying Nintendo ripped off Sega. Chances are, it's a complete coincidence. Also, Mario Galaxy did the concept way better. But it's simply uneducated to say there's no similarity.

Sooku

@Fallible.:

It explains the O-face.

Robbyshin and the Black Knight

@Hero-Link: Kratos isn't really iconic. As for characters which symbolise consoles, you think Snake, you think Playstation. Sony itself uses Snake as it's poster child. Remember all the extra "Cell is AWESOME" MGS marketing in the build up to the PS3 launch?

To be honest, I think the Playstation brand has always lacked a character to attach to their console.

Gundragon

Crash being sold was a really complicated matter, but it is a shame that it did. The first three were incredible games.

the_red_sage

@D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid: let's try and stay on topic please.

chang187

@GameBuddy: Yeah that was a Pilot Wings64 reference... but I guess "penis nose" works too

Needs more Snake.

@SphericalCrusher:

Why not? Whats a better MS icon?

@King_Krunk: Yeah, but nobody knows Jak and Ratchet in comparison to Cloud... plus they're not gaming icons. Cloud is the closest renowned "mascot" that Sony has... Kratos is up there, but again, in a war of relevance, FFVII beats God of War.

@Ravel: unfortunatly its not mario and chief....and sadly too

@MiltonZep: Yeah, but Mario's already up there and nobody was arguing otherwise

@GorbyGipper: Considering this is only dealing with consoles it would be awfully hard to leave Master Chief out just from the history of XBOX 1. That history has been written whether people like it or not.

@PlatformJunkie: Yeah, if you are 8 years old.

ez054098

I didn't know Mario, Sonic, Crash and Master Chief were free masons.

chang187

@dibbitydan: You know what, screw this. I, Ken Masters, crown myself the official mascot of the Arcades. Screw you Ryu, go eat a nugget.

@King_Krunk: But why England?

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: Best drug-related movie qoute ever. I commend you.

D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid

Doesn't Mario's facial expression reveal that he's...well...that he's having too much fun?

@Hero-Link:

2005! Read, people! That means that it was painted before Kratos was the definitive star of the Sony consoles. Sure, GOW came out in 2005, but he wasn't as popular then as he is now, plus GOW2 really sealed the "PS mascot" deal for him. Although I guess people consider that to be Sackboy now.

dibbitydan

@Combichristoffersen: Wait, are suggesting CTR was good or bad? Because it better not be bad...

@OtisElevator:

Like your mom

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: well why didn't you say that in the first place? we're gonna need more grass coke however.

chang187

it should of been Rachet.

Hirmetrium

That is an absolutely awful painting.

ajnewman

@chang187: take your pick, I also have two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.

@xyzface: you know, I'm not sure, I just went with the one least likely to cause offence.

@laencythe: well it got your attention didn't it? thanks for the tip sweety.

chang187

No offense... that's one ugly painting.

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: irony?,,,,,,or sarcasm?

xyzface

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: pills would be nice, upers, downers, laughers, screamers.

chang187

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: well if they were to alaborate on why or how it's "terrible" and "ugly" then that would've been ok, but to just leave it at that is wrong. un- constructive criticism is the worst kind.

chang187

@Rinaldus: twin snakes wants a word with you...so does Metal Gear...

incase you didn't understood what i said... their games on Nintendo consoles.

Kratos would be the perfect choice.

Hero-Link

@chardish:
If you're saying that Crash 1-3 and Crash Team Racing weren't AAA games, you, my good man, have no clue at all.

@chang187: "SHUT THE FUCK UP" is really an excellent and elaborate way of conveying an argument, now isn't it?
you know, you could use the 'reply' button, and in case you don't know how to address people from different threads at the same time, just use copy and paste. the rest is up to you, darling.

laencythe

@chang187: Also, the only comments regarding the ARTWORK that you mention say "terrible" and "ugly", hardly the most scathing of criticism, you yourself say you can do better. Don't take offence for offence's sake, it just makes you look a total chang187.

@Alex Thompson: I did read the article, smartass. And I disagree with his answer. Fact is, arcades need consoles as much as consoles need arcades.

Without what was established by Atari and other early console makers, we wouldn't have Xbox today. Flagrant disregard of the late-70s to mid-80s in terms of console gaming is a gross injustice to the progress that they made. Furthermore, despite being a game shop, they still need to recognize the arcade, which used to be very important (at least in the US).

So I didn't and still do not accept his response to arcade gaming, and I will ignore Crash and Master Chief because they are still relatively new and generally unimportant in the larger scheme of things. Chief helped MS, and Crash helped Sony (possibly), but there is more to gaming than just two small fragments of history. Crash was one of PS1s greatest gifts, and Halo saved MS for dying on the console market, but they never really left their particular genre to make something better for the rest of gaming.

Their impact is a flash in the pan compared to Mario, and especially the history of gaming.

@Ravel:
Make it 4 out of 4. Mario's been meh after SMB3, Sonic has been on life support post-Sonic Adventure, Crash fell in a coma after CTR and Captain King has been busy being rehashed to the brink of death the last few years.

3 out of the 4 of those have starred in AAA games. Crash Bandicoot, not so much.

Playstation has never had a good mascot.

chardish

@chang187: Lol, the internet is serious business, no? Relax, take the pills, I'll go ring "the number".

@King_Krunk: in japan they have, though I can't remember the name of that cat. however, I think that can count as a mascot.

laencythe

@ShaSt One: And I'm the only one who got the Pilot Wings 64 reference.

@Afrocass: Yes. I'm joking (I did just toy with the idea of asserting that Bomberman Act Zero is a modern classic that should be the blueprint for games to come, but irony does translates badly online :see above for reference:)

@MiltonZep:
From 2001 to 2005 Crash was in these 7 non-Sony exclusive titles: Wrath of Cortex, The Huge Adventure, N-Tranced, Nitro Kart, Ripto's Rampage, Twinsanity and Tag Team Racing.

[en.wikipedia.org])

@D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid: oh snap. that was good, take a break you're working much too hard.

chang187

Mario - Yep. A classic. Pick your favorite president and this is him. There is no wrong answer.

Sonic - He was king in his one-term on top, but he hasn't left with grace. He's stuck around, giving us crappy platformers, like a videogame Jimmy Carter.

Crash - Honestly, I was checked out during Crash's reign. I was in late high-school and early college, so I had other priorities, socially.

Master Chief - Too soon. History will tell us where The Chief stands in gaming history...much like Bush 43.

GorbyGipper

@King_Krunk: I'm just saying don't be so hard on him, he did make it into Kotaku.

chang187

Are they happy trees?

kojirodensetsu

@chang187: Welcome to the internet. To the left we have "Blogs 101", to your right we have "commenting 101" both of which to your disposal, to use at your leisure. We hope you'll enjoy your stay. Also, there's free porn, the cake is a lie and be carefull with that stick up your ass when you sit down,

Sincerely, D-K

D-K, Came for the punch, stayed for the band-aid

@KEN:
Sony never owned the Crash Bandicoot rights AFAIK. IIRC it was a sort of.. strange deal between Universal Interactive and Naughty Dog, where UI owned the characters, franchise etc., and ND just made the games. Sony did publish the first game though (not sure about CB2, 3 etc.).

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: If you knew anything about the way Mario Galaxy worked, you would not say that Sonic did it first. Plenty of games used space and flying through it like that. None of them did it the same as Mario Galaxy.

@Black-Dog-Howls: You're forgetting that nearly 14 years ago, the playstation came out. So most people under 20 have or possibly played Crash. But if you were to say that about the SNES, you could possibly get away with it.

akumaserge

@Black-Dog-Howls: i was reading your comment and i agree the crashes, after the ps1 ones (i liked crash bash) were all dire in comparison but i'm 18 not 20 plus.

SwindleUK

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas:
please tell me you're joking...

@Acebuckeye13: Ah yes, you have a very good point.

@MiltonZep: And Crash Bandicoot is on pretty much everything right now.

@SphericalCrusher: I agree with this statement sir. *Gives cookie*

@Coco-Love: You mean like New Super Mario Bros. for DS? A Wii sidescroller would be a huge step back.

@FreakyFavabean: Agreed, but still, they got ported(IIRC) to the Dreamcast.

@Ravel:"Sit down son, Grandpa is going to tell you a story about the world's worst war. The console wars lasted for decades. It really started to heat up after the destruction of Dreamcastovia. Each time one side took control, in a few years another would takes its place. We lost a lot of good men back then.

It finally came down to two. They were evenly matched so the battles were just more fierce. Finally only one survived.

All this history is making Grandpa tired. Why don't you let me rest and go play your Phantom"

@Dattebayo: I was surprised that they didn't use Spyro instead of Crash for Playstation.

akumaserge

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: Orian: "He paid to have that done? It's terrible."

OtisElevator: "It's ugly."

RRRansom: "Wow, Mother Nature must have really hated that particular spot of trees."

NaruThai: "Crash Bandicoot? Seriously?

No Solid Snake or Even Lara Croft?

Good God...."

are we reading the same thread? yes? then SHUT THE FUCK UP.

chang187

@RRRansom: Or really loved it AMIRITE

@OtisElevator: Agreed.

@NaruThai: I can only think of 3 on hand. Care to name the other 4?

@kopakauk: Yeah, I'd say all of them.

The Mario cash-cow has been milked so hard that the teats are bleeding,
Sonic has been an embarrassment since the Dreamcast that just won't stop whoring himself out,
Crash isn't even a console mascot anymore and what little recent activity he has shown has been mediocre at its finest,
and Master Chief is about as charming as a balled-up fist, with each successor game trying to be about as different from its predecessor as Street Fighter II Dash tried to be from Street Fighter II.

I'm hoping this was a self job, looks like MS Paint to me.

@Kalapusa: Didn't the whole "planets in space" thing come from Sonic in the first place?

+ Watch video

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: Dagnammit, wrong thread!

@MiltonZep: Well, I don't know if I'd call him a mascot, but I'm pretty sure his first two games were originally on the PS1. Also, they were just really fun games.

@chang187: Do you mean the quality of the art? If so, who exactly has said anything to warrant a "shut the fuck up", or are you talking to "the voices" again?

@King_Krunk:

No, not Kratos. I definitely don't think 'Playstation' when I see his face.

@Monolith: Ah yes, that old Xbox classic, Bomberman360 (or Dynablaster on the original Xbox if we're being accurate to the age of the photo).

@NaruThai:

Lara Croft?!

I could sort of see you suggesting Snake, but Lara Croft? Really?

Crash Bandicoot is *way* more iconic than either of them.

@Alibyebye Essmob: Pacman is best known at the arcades....not consoles

Please try and keep up.

King_Krunk

@kreepmode: This.

Naughty dog = CB

Nice, except Halo should not be anywhere near that.

@Coco-Love: Coco-Love, I'm not sure if you're joking so apologies if you are, it's just that between medieval swords and werehogs (not to mention Shadow) I can't help but feel that Sonic is trying to corner the market on 'stupid gimmicks'. Besides, I'm not convinced making Sonic the new pardigm for Mario is going to end well at all.

@chang187: Wait... We are not allowed to have an opinion on something just because we didnt do it?

King_Krunk

@randlsa: Actually 3 of the sell lots o games.

King_Krunk

@Coco-Love: Did you just suggest Mario games should take a cue from Sonic games?

Really?

Last time I played Mario Galaxy I did not think to myself "needs more WerePlumber".

@MiltonZep:

and before 2005 he'd been in 7 games non-sony platforms.

@KEN:

They did? ...Idiots.

aaj111

@Black-Dog-Howls: What are you talking about? A lot of people under the age 20 (Including me) played the Original Crash. Why do you think a lot of Adults consider all game consoles "For Kids"? You're basically categorizing people who aren't in their 20s or so are not part of gaming history.

Ugh... I'd never pay for that. :/

@JGab: Sony has never really had a defining mascot... I however dont see that as a problem. With so many stellar franchises why should sony be represented by one

King_Krunk

@ryangreen02: Seems like someone didn't read the article.

"I was asked many times, 'Why isn't Pac-Man on there?'" he said. "My reply was always, "These are the icons of console gaming, which is what my store was about. In that sense that would make Pac-Man the king of England, and he'd have no place on Mount GameMore."

Crash was huge when the playstation first came out, and well, if you're gonna look for a mascot for the microsoft side of the thing, how would you NOT pick MC. I cant think of a character who sold more consoles for MS than Chief.

Alex Thompson

@postcards:

It was painted in 2005.

Spawnofmoose

@postcards: Hardly the most iconic Playstation character from over a decade.

Mark1412

@Scott J: Yes apparently you are

King_Krunk

@FreakyFavabean: WHAAAT? Since when was Rayman a Sony mascot? I agree with Snake but no rayman.

@Neon: The last few Crash racing games (PSP and PS2) were awesome, and the platformers were at least decent.

Who's washed up again?

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@Rinaldus: What about Sackboy?

postcards

Should have been Mario,Sonic,Pac-Man and Megaman.

postcards

@ShaSt One: Master Chief is a gaming icon, but no mention of Mario? What?? I don't like Mario, but to many people, he's the symbol of a gaming icon.

@J.Bourne: I like your approach better :D

@NaruThai: You forget, way before 2005 Crash was in about 5 CONSECUTIVE playstation exclusives titles. I'd say that earns him a spot as a Sony mascot.

@SegevRaz: That picture was probably up there for the whole two years without anyone thinking that. the internet, eh...

Nitro378

@Orian: Probably $20 to some high school student. I'm sure it's not as though he took out a loan to commission it and had it insured by Lloyd's.

"These are the icons of console gaming, which is what my store was about. In that sense that would make Pac-Man the king of England, and he'd have no place on Mount GameMore."

I don't know what this means.

@noesmano: its a horrible painting.

DaveStampeed

@Ravel: I wish that Mario games will stop having stupid gimmicks, like space gravity and water, in the future and instead focus on plain platforming just like the Sonic games do. Maybe then they can be GOTY-material.

Coco-Love

@SegevRaz: only on kotaku

@lolgreg:

What's to read? He wanted a Mascot from Sony, I'd say Snake or even Lara back when it was painted were bigger mascots that that little rat.
By 2005 Crash had been in about 7 games for non-playstation systems.

Don't try and get clever with me.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Toro is the man! or cat!

@Ravel: At least two of them can still sell lots-O-games.

randlsa

@Flawless101: I was mostly nerd-raging on the inside.

Mario I can agree with. Sonic, despite seeing better days, deserves to be there too. Crash and 'chief? I'm not convinced they should be there at all. Crash isn't functioning member of the community anymore, and the Chief hasn't proven himself. Maybe just throw a Halo up there instead, since it clearly has more personality. Or .

Still, there are plenty of other gaming icons that should be up there over those two. Mario and Sonic are truly iconic, since they were the top two mascots for a long time. I don't see why some other classic arcade icons or truly old school icons shouldn't be up there instead. Lets think founding fathers of gaming, not lazy list of things that only the new kids know of (i.e. anything pre-1996 is a good start).

The irony being that nintendo has had games with all but one of those characters, and none of those are sony exclusive.

Should be Mario Sonic RATCHET Master Chief

Marasai

@Flawless101: ZOMFG IT'S MASTER CHIEF!!!

I HATE MICROSOFT! HE SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE! WTF?!?!?!

/RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

J.Bourne

@noesmano: Certainly could be worse, as anyone who has ever had the misfortune to walk the wrong allyways of Deviantart can attest.
Good Lord, it could be worse.

Acebuckeye13

@Ravel:

Mario Galaxy and Super Paper Mario are two amazing games.
Halo is still relevant
Sonic....continues to have a decent handheld game every once in a while

So yea 1 of 4 washed out

Neon

@Ravel: As much as I hate to say it, Halo games are, on average, better than Mario, Sonic, and Crash Bandicoot games.

Then again, Halo doesn't have much to bring the average down.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@PlatformJunkie: well mario is being ignored now that nintendo figured out a bathroom scale is more recognizable

ithyphallus

@NaruThai: Did you just look at the picture and post? (Somehow not reading the title as well)

lolgreg

As much as I love Crash Bandicoot 2, I would probably replace Crash with someone like Rayman or Solid Snake.

@RRRansom: Also, thats just a reflection from the flash used to take the picture. :P

iDeNoh

@Ravel: maybe all of them~!

that's actually not a very good painting...
Still, thought that counts, i guess.

Eh.

Shall we just gloss over the fact that Rushmore Mario has a nice set of boobs, then?

@KEN: Should've used Kratos, or even Snake would've of been more appropriate.

Rinaldus

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Crash was not Sony's first mascot. The company's first video game mascot was Polygon Man, then Sofia from Toshinden sort of took over the role.

I'm not gonna judge. While I could've done a much better job, I didn't and neither did any of you so shut the fuck up. Maybe his next piece will be 10 times better.

chang187

@ShaSt One: I wpould say that cloud is far more dated than jak, ratchet, and kratos

King_Krunk

If I walked into a local video game retailer and found this, I'd know I came to the right place. Its unfortunate that he had to close the doors.

Solome

He paid to have that done? It's terrible.

Orian

@RRRansom: Sonic just has less friction than the others for the snow to cling onto. "It's the shoes," as Spike Lee used to say back when he was more eager to do the corporate shill thing.

@Ravel

@NaruThai:
Here's the thing,
Crash used to be one of the biggest mascots way back when.
You are clearly too young.

@Ravel: uh, maybe two at best. must be hard getting out of the bed in the morning so trollish.

themissing

@KEN: Naughty Dog was the best Crash dev hands down.

kreepmode

@undefined: I realize that posting anything about any console at any time, for any reason, summons the trolls like flies to shit, but can you at least try not to be typical for five minutes out of the day? Kthx.

That's the problem I think Sony has the most that it's trying to fix this generation. They really didn't have a mascot for awhile, they just kind of drifted around from character to character.

I think now they've decided to make Sackboy their Mario/Sonic (platformer game, talk of a kart game, probably will evolve into a 3D action adventure at some point in the future).

Still, I think this is good for console gaming. For gaming overall though- not so sure...

@King_Krunk: I'd pick Cloud. I'm not a FFVII fanboy, but he really is the only mascot of Sony's that doesn't come off as... dated...

@Scott J: o plz, you have a case with Crash, but Sonic and Master Chief are gaming icons. Especially Sonic.

@ShaSt One: Wow, his nose does look a lot like a penis.

Sony now = Sackboy.

Truth

@NaruThai: Yea, i would have gone with Snake or Kratos to for Playstation but im not sure if God of War came out in 2007...you'll have to excuse me, im awful with remembering the year when things come out.

@Ravel: Crash, Sonic, and Master Chief? Because Mario just had two of the best games of 08.

PlatformJunkie

Master Chief, Sonic, Crash?

wow talk about clueless.

Scott J

Its neat... Dont mean to be a dick but it doesnt really look all that great though.

However, I will admit that I love the concept and the characters. If I had to pick one for sony it would likely also be crash.

King_Krunk

i would like to see ratchet as the sony mascot.

It's ugly.

OtisElevator

Oh, Crash... IluvU, but I hope hitting your nose transforms you into Wario... or somebody else.

@NaruThai: No, you fail. Crash Bandicoot is the epitome of awesomeness (his Naughty Dog version, anyway).

J.Bourne

I agree with all but Master Chief. He should be Bomberman.

Monolith

3 out of 4 are washed up, guess which?

Oh, I'm just waiting before someone nerd rages over Master Chief being there :p

I love how Sony's mascot is always different. They just can't agree on what represents them.

First there was Crash, then Dax, and Cloud+Snake (before people noticed that was stupid), and now it's either Sackboy or (rarely) Drake.

In Japan, however, it's just my good bro Toro.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

Too bad Crash is multiplatform and the majority of gamers under 20 don't even know about Crash 1 through CTR - the only good games of the series. Same with Spyro from its Insomniac days.

Now it's just furry bait.

Black-Dog-Howls

@KEN: BTW, they sold it to Activision and they ruined the frachise with crappy games.

Crash Bandicoot? Seriously?

No Solid Snake or Even Lara Croft?

Good God....

Wow, Mother Nature must have really hated that particular spot of trees.

Except Sony decided to sell the rights of Crash Bandicoot.

Crash and Sonics face should be covered until they release a good new game

@Ravel: 4 out of 4. I'm sick of all of these franchises.

@Owen Good:

Is it possible to nominate this comment for Comment of the Week?

A. That's just ... awful. Like, my eyes are burning awful.

B. Um, King of England? Pac-Man has been a sales force on practically EVERY SINGLE MAJOR CONSOLE SINCE THE ATARI 2600. He's more like the effing Jesus Christ of video gaming than the George Washington or Abraham Lincoln.

FrankieViturello

@Black-Dog-Howls: ...I'm under 20 and those were some of my favorite games...

@Onegai: - of the cicle, or the outer edge.

Pac-Man, Mario, Sonic and Mega Man.

Pac-Man was released on consoles. Yes, they were horrible ports, but he belongs up there.

Mario and Sonic need no explanation.

Mega Man- He's been on tons of consoles (and handhelds), he's instantly recognizable and he's timeless.

thereij

@Sooku: Well, if you want to go that route im sure we can all name games that simulated some planet at a very small scale. For instance play through Yoshis Island. Theres a stage I believe that has you running from "body" to "body" while being able to walk around the circumference.

@Pizookie: Mario is Missing was on PC, as were a couple of the Sonic games prior to Sega wussin' out and getting out of the hardware biz. Can we count that?

@Hero-Link: I think the closest thing Sony has to a franchise of their own is Gran Turismo, but it wouldn't make much sense to carve a car out of a mountain.

Although carving a Skyline out of a mountain would be a reversal from the norm. Heh...heh...get it?

@Gundragon: Except, Snake has also been seen on the original Xbox, you can't say that about the other exclusive icons.

Pizookie

@KEN: flowcharts anyone?

@SACRE BLEU !!:

Is Toro the Cat-like mascot from the PocketStation that looks like an angular Hello Kitty? I think Sony should stick with this as their mascot to be honest, as I think it's too late to be coming up with new ones

They also used Lara Croft as their mascot for a while, which was always stupid seeing as how the original Tomb Raider was also a Saturn game.

As for Sonic... Since SEGA are now a software publisher and developer only now, and Sonic games are multi-platform, should Sonic really be up there? After all, why not have characters from Square games, or Atari, or Amiga instead? They'd all be equally as apt. I think Mario is the only one who truly deserves to be up there, with perhaps Master Chief

Is that supposed to represent Sonic? It looks more like that stupid Blue Badger from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney... Anybody else initially think this when they first saw it?

@ryangreen02:

Yes the arcade needs consoles and consoles need arcades. But that is not the point of the freaking painting.

They may not have a huge history, but they are faces of 2 console company. Mario is the face Nintendo, Sonic is Sega, Crash for Sony, and MC for Microsoft. Which is the whole point to the guys painting.

It isn't a painting of gaming history. It is a painting depicting characters to a related console for a console gaming store. Not a painting of the most influential characters in gaming history for an arcade.

@noesmano: I KNOW!!! It needs more normal mapping O_o

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Umm Halo 1 was the only good one, Halo 2 and 3 have lousy single player and the only thing they bring to the table is online multiplayer.

bla19

@Hero-Link: I'm the first? You should use the internets more. In MGS 3 he uses a friggin PS3 controller to move the Mk2 around. Can't get more in-brand than that.

Gundragon

@chang187:

El Oh El.

who does not belong?
thats right, GTFO sonic.

Doomgape

@Ueziel: If anything I would say the closest thing to Mario Galaxy is the moon levels in Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando and Up Your Arsenal.

PlatformJunkie

@ez054098: Oh I'm sorry. I forgot games have to be hardcore shoot 'em up gore gore gore to be any good. My bad. This just in, Mario Galaxy and Brawl aren't good games. Never mind that the gameplay is solid. Never mind that they're fun to play. Never mind that they have good replay value. They're not M rated, so they're not good, unless you're 8. Gotcha.

PlatformJunkie

@noesmano: It really is an awful mural. I sure hope he didn't pay too much for it.

DangerFlakes

@king rex: If it weren't a shit painting to begin with...

king rex

Crash Bandicoot's a joke. If he made it Snake or Kratos I'd be pleased.

king rex

@thesuffering85: Though it's my favorite series of games to date (no game will surpass UYA IMHO), I don't see R&C as Playstation pioneers, and since Spyro and Crash's reps have been tarnished, only probably Kratos, Sackboy, or even a Helghast/ISA.

@XMonk: Not putting them on there at all is sounds fine to me. Way too early.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:

Yep, Sonic pioneered the concept of 'planets in space' alright. Step off, Galileo.

@Cpt. Overkill: Make it under 15, because my 17 yold ass would like to have a word with you...

While I, aged around 9-10 had beaten Crash 1-3 and Spyro 1-YOTD 100%, my family and friends were playing much shittier and repetitive scum like Madden.

@Ravel:

George Washington is over-rated, Abe Lincoln is a media whore, and Thomas Jefferson never really mattered.

Rough Ride or Die, bitches

BigMoose

@Rinaldus:
There is like 2 (so far) Metal Gear Games exclusive to Son....

What a great mascot, whoring itself out.

Anyone can clearly see that Kratos should be there representing SONY.
Dammit!

WiccanWarrior

Wait, someone actually PAID for that to be made? Seriously. It is ugly a fucking hell.

@Gemini-Phoenix: This guy for Sony (in Japan):

I draw the line of geekhood here. Too much.

@Solome: There's an excellent game shop in Framingham, MA called Game Universe. When you walk in, it's just game murals on all sides. The first time I walked in and found myself surrounded by Mario, Katamari, Pac-man et al, I just kind of thought, "alright, this is where I shop now."

Zorantor

That mural sucks... and sucks badly. I really hope by 'comissioned' he meant 'found spray painted on wall one night"

@gipmah: I was excited for LBP, but I think I'm the only person in the world who ended up not liking it. As fond as I am of my three PlayStations, I've almost never been interested in the first party stuff.

That said, I would agree that Sackboy does seem to be the new face of PlayStation, at least outside of Japan. In Japan it seems like it's more Toro than Sackboy.

Zorantor

@GameBuddy: I got it right away.

I always thought it was interesting that because of that cameo, Wario (who was then a very minor character) was one of the first Mario characters to appear on the N64, even before Luigi.

Zorantor

@Ueziel: Nobody said Mario Galaxy and SA2's Mad Space were the same. Sooku said that they were similar. Which they are, save for a few details. Even though they're not the exact same thing, you can't argue that they don't share many traits that are relatively unique to platformers.

Zorantor

@J4cK 0f He4rt5: You sure? Because I played the hell out of Wario Land for Wii, which is decidedly Mario-esque, and I count that among my favorite Wii games.

Zorantor

@NaruThai: Snake and Lara were never exclusive to Sony. I'd especially rule out Snake as the face of Sony considering that he's in Smash, something decidedly Nintendo. Granted, the same is true for Sonic, but there's a history there.

While it's true that Crash was Sony's mascot for a short while, he was never as popular as Mario or Sonic and never reached that same level of icon. I'd say if there's a character who represents exclusively Sony, it's Sackboy, boring though he may be.

Zorantor

@Combichristoffersen: I've never heard anyone call Super Mario World, 64, and Galaxy "meh." You're welcome to your opinion, but I'd like to know which games you actually like if you're not impressed by those.

Megaman, should be there instead of Halo dude, and instead of Crash Bandicoot there should be Lara Croft's face. Sony even did a couple BIG budget movies about it.

ridgecity

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I've always felt Sony best mascor is Ridge Racer, rather than a character. Maybe they should use the models.

ridgecity

@fruitsofherwomb: people, presidents change but the faces on mount rushmore don't ... the playstation icon changed over the years but crash bandicoot is still and will always be their first or whatever number cb is o.0.

@Skunky: Masterchief was also on PC, so I'm uncertain about those counting.

Pizookie

@Ravel:

i always thought crash was shit.

then again sonic leaves a lot to be desired these days.

mario galaxy was excellant

and i enjoy halo (esp online) despite what people say

evilweevle

@J.Bourne: I agree. Back in the day Crash Bandicoot was so damn cool. I love the old Bandicoot games,like you said the ones from Naughty Dog.

@Black-Dog-Howls: Yer thats more likely under 15 or something, cos pretty much if you had a PS1, you played crash.... It was awesome

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Why was it stupid to use Snake as a mascot? He's not First party, but he has represented the breakout of ALL 3 Sony Consoles...

Mario came.

@Gundragon: You still can't really call a PlayStation mascot on a character who's first appearance was on the MSX/NES.

Same with Final Fantasy.

Svend Joscelyne

@Zorantor: But there haven't been any main Wario games in the vein of Galaxy, Sunshine or 64.
Paper Mario doesn't count because it technically has a gimmick, but if the SMGalaxy sequel was a sidescroller, that would be a step back. Keep Mario in the 3D envirnoments on consoles, but sidescrollers on DS. On that note, where the hell is New Super Mario Bros. 2?

All sentiment of the beloved and historical characters, and the fact that he had to close his store aside...That mural is an utter piece of shit. "Commissioned"? Dear sweet baby fucking Jesus sucking on a ring pop, Dan, you didn't actually pay for that did you?

@Bii Nii Wii Nii Politely Replaces You're Your with Your You...:

Why not just axe the Xbox altogether and have that weird duck-dragon or Pitfall Harry repping for the Atari 2600?

Ageism, that's why. Everyone likes the fit (RRODs aside) young console with its curves and bump-mapping. I remember the days when all it took was one stick and one button to give me all the pleasure I needed.

dd528

@Alex Thompson: I think people might object to Master Chief because he is pretty characterless compared to the other three.

I think this is pretty common with FPS protagonists. They are, with a few exceptions (Duke Nukem? Samus Aran? And they both started off in platform games) usually silent and sometimes even faceless.

This is a contrast with Mario or Sonic or Crash Bandicoot, who are hardly paradigms of good character development, but at least have mannerisms, catch phrases, memorable design, and so on.

Anyway, I think that Sony and MS have kind of moved beyond the stage where they need mascots. They're slightly more mature brands than Nintendo, so it's not really surprising that Master Chief is a crap mascot, and Crash wasn't even all that great ten or twelve years ago.

Me, I don't even care. I don't even really know why I'm posting in this story. I'm just waiting for my flatmate to get dressed so we can go to the pub.

dd528

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Why do they even need a mascot? This is not Disneyland.

dd528

Ok nice painting but it is a blasphemy for videogames putting Crash and Master chief next to SONIC and Mario!

sybnios

@Mit: I see what you did there

Lets get Crash off there and put on Pac Man. Come on people. Know your roots.

curtisawa

What utter garbage. :|

Let's see someone carve it, but please, don't use that painting as a blueprint.

@ShaSt One: hes a square enix character not a sony character.

uWaAvenger

@EternalYoshi: Halo ODST comes out this year

uWaAvenger

@Coco-Love: Super mario galaxy ws amazing and won GOTY in many circles.

uWaAvenger

@ithyphallus: Super mario galaxy says hi

uWaAvenger

@NaruThai: lara croft apeared on sega saturn and dreamcast, gamecube, xbox, wii 360 and ps2 ps3 gameboycolor, adavnce, ds and psps, explain how shes a sony mascot?

uWaAvenger

@Aaronosuke: Snake wasnt a Sony eclusive. metal gear started on the original nintendo.

uWaAvenger

@Skunky: not really because they stilled belonged to Nintendo and sega respectively.

uWaAvenger

@Hero-Link: what about Metal gear on NES, and metal gear2 snakes revenge on NES that was way back on the original Nintendo, so yea Never been a sony exclusive, and metal gear twin snakes and subsistence was on gamecube and xbox.... learn yours

uWaAvenger

@Combichristoffersen: What? Super Mario World and SM64 were great games. Super Mario Sunshine not so much. Sunshine put the franchise in a bad position.

I agree with you about the Console Sonic games after Sonic Adventure. Sonic 2006 was so bad....

Crash Bandicoot kinda dissappeared after CTR on the Playstation because Naughty Dog lost the rights to the franchise afterwards.

Isn't the Halo series finished or am I mistaken?

@Pizookie: Now that's exactly where it gets into serious gray area, because the Xbox IS a pc with most of the functionality removed.

Crash? I think a better character to symbolize the Sony era would have been FF7's Cloud.

The art itself isn't particularly good, but I honestly don't see how one can argue with the choices. Each character is/was the definitive mascot for its respective console manufacturer at the time (2005).

Mario and Sonic are no-brainers. I know Sony's never really had one, but Crash was arguably the closest they got. Who can forget those ads where he crashed the Nintendo party?

If not Crash, then who else for Sony back in 2005? Ratchet & Clank and Jak & Daxter gave it a go, but never really got it, Kratos was just coming into his own at the time, and of course Sackboy was years away from making his debut.

And Master Chief for Microsoft is pretty much a given, as well. Can't see anyone else giving him a run for his money on the MS mascot stakes. Next closest would be Marcus Fenix, but I've never seen anyone suggest him as an MS "mascot" before, and he's hardly as iconic in look as Master Chief.