Iwata: Remember, Miyamoto Is Not God

I thought Yu Suzuki was a god walking on earth... until he made Shenmue, what a crappy game it was.

loempiavreter

@ShaSt One: Hey, life has quick time events here and there.

Cavefish

@EnigmaNemesis: He still is a visionary. Look at TIME Magazine.

'Hardcore gamers' (ugh) are just pissy because Miyamoto took the time to make three games that weren't in their target market (and even then he balanced it out with Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Kart Wii). Three. Like, "Oh. Em. Gee."

Svend Joscelyne

@Tyr4nt: Super Mario Galaxy. Or you have no soul.

Svend Joscelyne

How about we decide who's God and who's not? Cheek!

@Valnen:Oh they do make good games. You don't play them. They've got real third party titles. You don't play them. So do you own a Wii or just claim to be a Wii Owner on the internet?

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.:
ULTRAAAAA COMBOOOOOO

@EnigmaNemesis:He still is a visionary, Or did you miss in your many years here the repeated stories on how he had to beg to get Wii Fit and Music made, that NCL was "I don't know." on the whole thing? This, after 20 something years of him proving if you let him go, he'll create something fun?

He's still a visionary, hardcores are just jaded bastards who bite the hands that feed them.

@kingmanic:Stop being a tard.

@SketchyIndividual:Just because you may not like Wii Music does not make it a bad game.

@Tyr4nt:If you got rid of your Wii, why are you still visiting Wii/Nintendo topics to let people know this? Why are you also making blanket statements when you haven't had a Wii to play any of the games that have come out from christmas on?

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset with the Daily Show:Blanket statements, indie music elitism and the "He's not catering to me, so the fact I don't care means he's shit." mindset, all in one blurb. Bravo, you've set a new record for this week.

@Demonbird:Because it is. Still hating and hating and hating? Good to see it's working for you.

@illiniphase4:You need to properly learn how to define shovelware.

@Flyhawk:It's still selling however.

@Gundragon:Video games were marketed as electronic family entertainment long before you could turn on a TV and will be marketed as such afterwards. It's about money. And the best way to make money is to cater to families.

@Combine: OoT was too easy.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Absolutely Agreed. They count on it, mesmerizing the people. Learn to mesmerize and you too will be successful @______@ BLAAAHHH, more entertainment... please me... beautiful media...

FlipSwitchX

@Leanid: The profits Nintendo makes means nothing to us as consumers unless they make good games with it or get REAL third party titles.

I'll stick with PS3/360. They may not make as much money for their companies, but they're constantly getting better games. And that's what matters to the consumer.

@methan69: SO TRUE! L O L Good Show.

FlipSwitchX

Iwata, is this your way of telling us E3 will be substandard again?
Y'know, after last year, when everyone, even Cammie "LOOK AT MY PUPPY" Dunaway admitted it was shit?

@Pantsman: And long countdowns?

@Komrade Kayce: Wii Fit is not a game! Nintendo do not make games any more. They have created their own personal industry for electronic family entertainment products. Hell, you might as well rate them in the same sales lists as VTech laptops and DVD games.

Gundragon

@illiniphase4: Yeeeowwtch. I sure hope it's to make us even more surprised when Zelda is shown.

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset with the Daily Show: Awsome title. ::puts sticker next to name::

Where's my time machine? I want to see E3 now. I tried running really fast, but it only made people suspicious as to why a fellow american was running.

@MellowJade: If you had the choice between a calm but nutjob man that kidnaps you in your sleep to beat you up with your only defence an N64 controller and a psychotic game maker that could possibly use the pen as a knife of course you would go with the penknife dude!

mitch_93

god? i didn't even think he deserved man of the year.

@Mit: Ack, "Why is that wrong then doing less?" should be

"Why is that wrong compared to doing less?"

It sounded right in my mind for some reason.

@Pikachu Mariachi: Will electrify your piñata.: QTE's...rofl

I hate QTE's... Would I hate acid too?

@creid: I agree that the extensions he gets are a commodity that not many developers get, and sometimes is really not their fault when a crappy movie license game is released.

Still... saying that the only reason why someone who has created countless highly liked games and franchises has been able to do so just because of the freedom he gets and not because of his talent is a dumb statement.

Masterpain22

I totally called Wii Music, not being a big seller when it was revealed last E3. Everybody was saying that it, like Wii Sports and Wii Fit, were gonna be must-have items for casual gamers. And I looked at Guitar Hero and back at Wii Music and thought "Really? Really?"

Flyhawk

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.:
you called wii fit a game.

Want play games ?

Buy 360 or PS3.

ye0073

@EnigmaNemesis: Why.

WHY is Miyamoto now a visionary for the corporate pocket?

Why is he not the same Miyamoto we've had for years?

Give me a decent reason, someone, PLEASE. PLEASE. Because every, single reason stated so far is pure BS.

Miyamoto is simply doing more than before. Why is that wrong then doing less? He's given us one of the greatest Mario games of all time in this generation, he's helped get us a new Zelda, a new Metroid, Smash Bros, is creating another Pikmin title, and is directing yet ANOTHER Mario game for Wii, two Mario games for a console, a FIRST since the SNES. He's doing the exact same thing he's been doing for years.

Only he's doing more. He's helped Nintendo create one of the most successful consoles (and handhelds) of all time, and brought millions of new people into the world of gaming. He's done all this, which alone seems like more than one person is capable of, in addition to everything he's always done: deliver great games that can please the hardcore market, and even reach out into the casual market.

If he was a god before, he's still one now, only he has even more followers in the form of an entirely new market.

People need to open their eyes and realize how ignorant they've become towards Nintendo, simply because Nintendo's new found success involves people other than themselves. If anything, you should be happy Nintendo has not become what you all claim them to be, and still even bother making hardcore games for us at all.

@SketchyIndividual:
Sorry. If I touched a nerve I didn't mean to.

While Miyamoto is by far the best developer in the industry, he does not need to be looked at as if he created the whole damn universe. He saved the industry, and gave birth to Mario, Donkey Kong, and Zelda. He isn't the most important person in the world however.

@SketchyIndividual: The developers at Valve are one prominent example.

hardlylikely

@EmeraldDragon: It's spelled blasfemie, stoopid.

Hey_Blinkon

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: In reality though, this "announcement" from Iwata is just Nintendo trying to lower expectations so that when they preview a bunch of Wii-shovel-Ware, we won't be surprised.

illiniphase4

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: So we have to define the value of life as opposed to the value of it's meaning, which is provided by Miyamoto.

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: Everyone knows that Miyamoto got a trademark on Soulâ„¢ and Bodyâ„¢ a long time ago...

..see?

@ShaSt One: As much as I loled, the philosophical argument would be that it would only be dreams that constitute life's cutscenes. With acid induced hallucinations being quick time events of sorts.

@EnigmaNemesis: FOLLOWED!!!

SuperZombieMonkey

Hmmm....Ugh?

@Saxton Hale, CEO of Mann Co.: Kojima will become the greatest games developer. By ANY. MEANS. POSSIBLE.

Someone make a game out of this.

Leanid

Blastphamy!

EmeraldDragon

@Aidan_: *HUDDA HUDDA HUDDA*

@feinry: I don't recall nearly as many people crying about the Power Pad destroying the NES or Mario Paint being the end of the SNES as we know it... In fact, there were none.

The Earth wasn't created on time either, God was week late, actually.

aaj111

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: Except millions still look up to him, with millions more from the new market they tapped into. Miyamoto hasn't really changed all that much.

Sure, jumping around on a scale and playing pretend instruments is pretty stupid, but when you think about it, Mario is about an Italian plumber who gains powerups from eating various types of plant life. Donkey Kong is a gorilla that has a thing for bananas, barrels, and princesses. And Zelda is about a kid elf-boy in tights... OK, Zelda is a pretty generic fantasy world. Point is, when you take a step back and think about it, the old series that made Miyamoto great were actually kinda stupid to begin with.

And from the sounds of it, Miyamoto games like Wii Music was the kind of game that he WANTED to develop. So if anything, developing a new Zelda or Mario would mean he has even less integrity since he's caving into demands. Just because its OUR demands doesn't make it any better.

Leanid

@ShaSt One: Deep...

SiDCrAzY

@BigBossPETE:
"Besides, we all know that "the right to be a god", belongs to Wesker. "

True story.

@creid: While this is true, the guy has earned it. Look at what he has worked on, especially in his early days. That kind of quality and success, sustained over more than 20 years, gives you a little bit of leeway.

pslong9

Miyamoto may have brought you into gaming. Now he brings other people. Are you winning because he left you in the hands of hardcore designers?
He chooses his audience, he respects them and please them. Now his audience is casual market. Move on! He's still the greatest and most respected designer

feinry

@Tyr4nt: It's good that some companies can keep churning out games for the dedicated enthusiast to play (I'm not even going to get into the hardcore/casual argument here) and that you can complain about a lack of games for a console but that seems pretty superficial to me.

I like the fact that Nintendo is trying new ideas, as well as many third party companies. And since I don't have the time or money to play every new game that comes along with rave reviews, I don't mind the fact that my game libraries may only include ten games per console: I probably have only had a chance to play three or four of them. Right now Metroid Prime 3 is still sitting in its cellophane wrapping waiting for me to open it up and enjoy. Same with Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn. I'm still working on Twilight Princess plus some PSP and GBA games.

The great thing about Nintendo is that they are one company out of many. If I had the time and money I would buy a XBox 360 and build up a library of about ten games or so then do the same with a PS3. But, I have a job to keep, a family to support, and a house to maintain plus a degree to pursue. And I also have other interests outside of gaming. There is no point in complaining about what Nintendo is producing based on this, in my opinion.

BrokenSoul

gee, you really have to believe in your products to stand on the stagw with that in your hands...

jellyfish

Could've fooled me.

During Nintendo's interview process, everyone had to sit through an hour long presentation by Iwata, 20 minutes of which were spent on making Miyamoto seem like a deity.

They rattled off what games he has made, how much revenue he has generated, they showed off pictures of him being knighted in France, and all the people who line up to meet him wherever he goes.

This was extremely early on in the interview process, when the company was trying to sell itself to prospective employees, and what I took away from it was, 'One of the benefits of working at Nintendo is that you get to be in the presense of Miyamoto.'

FarmboyinJapan

@Tyr4nt: You either aren't looking hard enough, have extremely narrow tastes, or extremely high standards.

Also, I don't think he's lost his spark at all. Is it going in a different direction? Yes. But Miyamoto has pretty much always been about making games accessible and fun for everyone. Did he do that with Wii Sports? Absolutely. Super Mario Galaxy? Yep. Wii Fit? Pretty much, yes. Wii Music? Nope - it's the least accessible, most difficult "game" of the bunch, and was by far the most difficult to sell to the public at large.

Anyway, no, the guy isn't infallible, but to say he's lost his spark is kind of silly.

pslong9

guys like miyamoto and kojima who always please the fans for the most part deserve that higher rank... guys who dont give a fuck about the fans and release glitchy ass games(im looking at you fuck face cliffy b) deserve to be shit on thats how i view it... so cliffy b how do you release a second installment to a franchise and not fix the ugs from the first game... oh i know you flip up that middle finger and go about your business(for the record i love gow and gow2 but the problems in these games are just too much to deal with as a gamer, we deserve better period.

Timothy Saskiewicz

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: Hey man, that's going too far!

We all know Satan created cake, give credit where credit is due.

@Silentkiller2774: That doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

Best childhood friend's dad was gay (yes, birth father).

Oh, and he had three brothers too.

@EnigmaNemesis:

Then why didn't he mention Wii Play or even Wii Sports.

They aren't 'great' in anything but selling power. Which Miyamoto seems to have been always good at.

I'd give the same credit to Disney and McDonalds.

The poor guy is getting old, lol. Cut him some slack. He can't just dream up worlds where its normal to eat mushrooms that make you grow and jump on your enemies, or dress up in a keebler elf costume to save the world.

this is what makes me hate people so much.
If a high prestige individual grants the people all these great gifts and one day fucks up and gives them a rock, the people will hate that individual until the individual comes back up to terms and delivers great gifts again. Can't we just respect this man for he HAS done and not just for what he is doing? To me shigeru miyamoto is of course not a developing God but he is the best of them. And he has saved a companies and the industries ass with his games. so all you people who say
"Aww wii fit is shit, i don't like him anymore" or crap about wii music. just shove it all right. Let him do his job. He hasn't forgotten his audience.

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...: Uh, except that spark is clearly not gone when the person puts out a game also very recently that nearly everyone unanimously calls out as better than every other 3D game in the series.

Making one game that doesn't appeal to you does not mean the person isn't ZOMFG amazing. I know everyone here likes to be pessimistic to the extreme, but this is just ridiculous.

@Leanid: PROFESSIONAL game development, that is. There are hobbyists out there (including myself) who do it first and foremost out of passion.

VMan902

@kingmanic:
So what you are saying is that Miyamoto is basically Willy Wonka?
BTW Miyamoto is married to a woman.

@shouryuuken:

I think it's the same but who knows!

@ShadowOdin finally got a copy of Suikoden III. Is upset wit...:

This.

@Pantsman: What is life but a long cutscene

@Kuwabara Kazuo: He's the President and CEO of the company. I Don't think there's anybody with authority to fire Iwata.

Aidan_

@MellowJade: A GOD OF LONG CUTSCENES YOU MEAN, HA HA HA

Pantsman

Miyamoto isn't god because he has no ears.

@BigBossPETE: OoT is better then A Link to the Past. Hands down.
I played A Link to the Past a few weeks ago on VC. Its just not as good. Sorry to break it to you. I could go into some in depth analysis as to why, but it would be easier to say that OoT is in a sense A Link to the Past, in 3D with improvements on all its design facets and usable items/weapons.
A Link to the Past is enjoyable, and its sort of challenging, but its just nowhere near as good a game as OoT is.

@Komrade Kayce: Might be money makers for Nintendo, but they are pissing the fans off.

Got rid of my Wii shortly before Christmas because there was nothing new for to play, as far as I'm concerned it's been a little over a year since a quality Wii title has been released. In otherwords MArio Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Tyr4nt

Iwata is jealous.

@Leanid: That is true. But a business-type mindset seldom make you a God in the eyes of your peers.

You may sell millions, but when you do it in exchange for that spark that made millions of people look up to you, you loose prestige.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: as opposed to those non consumerist societies with no figureheads?

@Komrade Kayce: *slaps* NO! YOU ARE KOMRADE KAYCE! GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF!

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: Sounds exciting. Legend of Zelda: Foundation of Truth will be the best game ever.

@riffleraffle: Games development = business. First and foremost is money.

Leanid

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: It's not "talking shit", it's just the truth. There's nothing wrong with him and yes, he can put out good games (well... he could put out good games, can't say much about it these days) but that doesn't make it any less true.

In the same respect, you find me another dev team that gets the kind of freedom that his does, and you can play fanboy all day.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: except Walt Disney in real life was a evil evil man while Miyamoto is a homosexual filled with child like wonder (nothign wrong with that).

kingmanic

@Komrade Kayce:

Since when does selling a lot, make things great?

Disney pop bands, and McDonalds would like to know.

I think the OP was referring to the fact of how once was a bright visionary for the gamer, is now one for the corporate pocket.

Sales not make one great.

@creid: I disagree. He still manages to put games out at a reasonably quick rate, sure he is given creative freedom but I'd say if ALL game dev's were given the same freedom most still wouldn't be as good.

Hell, even up to this day some people can't make a functioning camera system for their game where as Miyamoto got it in his first attempt with Mario 64.

Thats not to say that others wouldn't pump out much better titles if given more time, resources, etc. of course some devs would, but others would still make a crap game because they just aren't as talented.
What i'm really saying is that Miyamoto does in fact put out games that he develops quite regularly and with a reasonable development time.
One only has to look at Blizzard to see that yes, given plenty of time you will release a damn good product, but hell, they don't do it anywhere near the same speed.
Then one only has to look at Too Human to see the opposite can occur as well.

@methan69: I guess. Since Miyamoto created existance, your soul and the body it inhabits. Or rather nature's ability to develop those.
And delicious, delicious cake.

@Saxton Hale, CEO of Mann Co.: here*

Fuck.

w-WHAT!? A-are you telling me, that all this time, my religion...was a lie?

Kojima's countdown is to Miyamoto's assassination. You heard it hear first.

Integrity != Money

Every body knows God is Peter Molyneux!

right?

;)

Drogmir

Well obviously....

I knew he was 'no god' when "Ocarina" failed to move me as much as "A Link to the Past" or the first two "Zelda(s)" did.

Besides, we all know that "the right to be a god", belongs to Wesker.

BigBossPETE

@creid:When you can find someone else who has released as many AAA titles as Miyamoto and resulted in sheer profit, you can talk shit then.

I'm sure if someone could/would do the math, the man's likely approaching the 100 billion dollar mark in profit for Nintendo. Maybe even more.

@xblindx: i was thinking more along the lines of wiimusic. but i like yours better.

abort_user

@Yoshiarecool:You mean the game that has made Nintendo almost 2 billion dollars in profit from launch on?

Sorry, I think you are confused.

Used to be god, and may very well be again

Super Mario Galaxy 2 please

Neon

@creid:

^This. If Nintendo treated him like most developers get treated, the next Zelda game would've come out last year.

@kingmanic: No, see, you didn't read all of that quote.

"If every dev studio was given the unlimited time that the Mario and Zelda teams seem to get to work on a game, then surely they'd be pumping out more AAA product as well."

Bold/underlined for clarity.

@Str8_Jihadin: lol, but you meant unreal announcer.

@Komrade Kayce: The one where it's set in modern time when a dimensional rift opens up the past where Link must fight monsters in which the modern Hyrule has forgotten. Armed with his trusty gun and (light) saber, Link must find the Master Sword, which is rumored to be in piec-

oops!

Sorry that's just my Zelda concept idea. I'll just leave that up there just in case SOMEONE FROM NINTENDO TAKES MY IDEA AWAY AND MAKES SOMETHING OUT OF IT, PLEASE.
Ahem to answer your question, it's the one where Link is a construction worker, working to pay his morgages while madly in love with a women named Zelda, who has a 9-5 desk job. FYI it'll be a mini-game -_-

I'm pretty sure Miyamoto has done more for me than god has.

methan69

@creid:
"If every dev studio was given the unlimited time that the Mario and Zelda teams seem to get to work on a game, then surely they'd be pumping out more AAA product as well."

3D Realms begs to differ.

kingmanic

There's a sort of sickness within the minds of consumerist societies. One where people give entire corporations and brands a personality in their head. Having a figurehead like Miyamoto or Walt Disney makes it easier for brands to garner a cult following.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

I'm not buying it.

*puts fingers in ears and hums loudly*

surely the man who combines both Zelda and trains IS A GOD?!

xblindx

Man...just watching that E3 video again still brings a tear to my eye. Such a fantastic trailer.

You know, I always thought the praise for Miyamoto was kind of misplaced. He does make great games, but it is surely due in large part to the freedom, time and budget that Nintendo gives him/his team. If every dev studio was given the unlimited time that the Mario and Zelda teams seem to get to work on a game, then surely they'd be pumping out more AAA product as well. This quote just twists the knife:

"One of the reasons why Miyamoto is highly praised is because of his ability to stop, rethink about, and fix how he can convey the appeal of a software when he finds out during the latter phase of development that the software will not be good enough,"

He's highly praised because his publisher will give big deadline extensions, and/or actually let him get away with making big changes late in the process, whereas any other publisher would tell him to quit bitching and finish the game already? Hilarious.

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: Curse those baby games! D:<

Kuwabara Kazuo

GODLIKE!

/Quake Announcer

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun:

Is that the Zelda construction game we've been hearing about? Or the one where link has to get a 9-5 desk job?

Damn, now if only Nintendo can pull off something big like they did in E3 04. Fuck, it better be bigger because of the travesty that was E3 08.

@Yoshiarecool: Wii Fit saw to that the Nintendo company made billions off the casual and even the hardcore audience. Wii Music while not a instant hit still managed to sell a million copies.
He`s not a HARDCORE gaming God, but he`s now a money making idea machine.

But Iwata seems to be taking these criticisms to HEART :P

Back before the Wii generation, you'd have to keep reminding me Miyamoto was not a GAME GOD, but now? My GG became soft and unvengeful.
Anyways it seems Iwata is just saying this to protect Miyamoto. Kind of makes me think Nintendo's E3 conference will weild nothing, but "The next big Wii thingy-ma-bober." Hmmmmm.
NOTE: I still stand by my next Zelda: Working Title prediction.

@Yoshiarecool:

What are you talking about? Do you not see the demand for Wii fit? Is it not in the top 3 every week?

I ARE CONFUSE

Then who the hell have I praying to all these years?

C´mon he's just want to throw us off our feet. Iwata, you know Miyamoto is God, spill the beans!

M.u.s.o.u.k.a

For a second I thought he was saying Miyamoto is not good; that would be a low blow.

But yeah he isn't god though lol.

T0pHat

Someone's getting fired for that remark. >:D

Kuwabara Kazuo

@Yoshiarecool:
Almost forgot music too

Yoshiarecool

HE SAID WHAT!??

BURN THE INFIDEL!!!

He is not a god..........anymore. Wii Fit saw to that

Yoshiarecool

Yeah that would be Kojima. He was always god-like in my eyes.

@Yoshiarecool: The man decides to step into the casual arena, and his wii fit idea makes a billion dollars, and the market he was pandering to loves the game. First game in.

The man decides to make a return to Mario after handing it off to someone else who produces Mario Sunshine, seriously damaging the franchise (a franchise where a good game but not a stellar one has the possibility of ruining its reputation), and creates a Game of the Year for many critics and possibly the best Mario entry to date. On an "underpowered", "crappy", "casual", "waggle centric" console competing with 360 and ps3 games.

Pretty godlike to me.

@Combine: you missed the point. Yes, non-consumerist societies have figure heads too, but they are not in service of a corporation or brand-name, but rather a government or some other such entity. Except, while it can be frightening when its a dictator, with Nintendo or Disney or its just sort of silly and pathetic.

messiahxi

@Here's Some Weapons: I'm sorry, anyone who throws up the horns at a E3 press conf should be sterilized.

messiahxi

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: Stop using the term "hardcore". It makes you sound like an idiot, since there is no such thing as "hardcore" games.

Jimbotron

@Valnen: I beat Link to the Past in about a day. It is just as easy. If not easier. Some of the sidequests in OoT are so much harder.
Either way, MM is the hardest of all.

@EnigmaNemesis: So what makes it great?

Sorry but there's more types of gamers then just hardcore. If the casual gamer thinks it's great then guess what...

come closer...

it is to them!

It's all a matter of opinion and I think most people forget that.

LegendofLInk

I think Shiggy's getting senile in his old age and that's why he's making these fluffy grandpa games.

At E3 he's probably going to excitedly announce Wii Shuffleboard.

Iwata, if someone asks you if one of your employees is a God, you say "YES"!

cfive3

@Leanid: How? By rehashing the same old, dusty, overused IP? That might make him equal to Miyamoto, but not better. He'll need some originality for that, which is something he is lacking.

Jimbotron

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: Que?

Aidan_

@Gundragon:"Videogames consoles (at least in my life, begining with the SNES) were never seen as family entertainment devices in the way the Wii is now. It was always pretty niche."

You weren't paying attention at all then. FYI, it started with the 2600 and carried on down from there.

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: "Video games were marketed as electronic family entertainment long before you could turn on a TV and will be marketed as such afterwards. It's about money. And the best way to make money is to cater to families."

Videogames consoles (at least in my life, begining with the SNES) were never seen as family entertainment devices in the way the Wii is now. It was always pretty niche.

Sinse then Videogames have carved out their own market and are now regarded as a stand-alone product when it comes to analyst reviews or sales figures. You don't see games consoles ranked up alongside DVD players in monthly sales ratings. What I was getting at was that Nintendo has forged their own market within videogames that focuses more on the family entertainment rather than the traditional 20 - 30 somethings that games have catered for sinse the playstation.

That being said, I still find it interesting that people hold up a title like Wii Fit as an example of a "game" when it is clearly not.

Gundragon

"With luck and some preparations" So I guess hard work means nothing in the face of all powerful luck.

slyeye

@LegendofLInk:

It's all a matter of opinion and I think most people forget that.

Thank you, and ones who share my opinion, are entitled to it as well.

Iwata is officially a Blasphemer. I don't Wii Music was Miyamoto's idea. Or at least, the final product wasn't what he wanted.

Ryodestined

LIIIES I SAY!!!
THEY ARE ALL LIES HE IS A GOD!!!!
But latelly he has been making fun of us giving us this casual apocalypsis.

@EnigmaNemesis: Except your opinion, which I'm basing off of ShadowOdin's post that you seconded, is "You may sell millions, but when you do it in exchange for that spark that made millions of people look up to you, you loose prestige." Which is plain false and a result of ignorance

Miyamoto hasn't traded anything for his ability to create casual games that sell extremely well, and he's still making the same games for gamers that he has been for the past generations. There doesn't seem to be any reasoning behind your opinion.

@Mit:
Great comment. Thank you for pointing this out.
Miyamoto is doing a great job.

Reikson

@Mit:

Please, if my opinion is that he is getting less liable in my lifetime compared to what he was, and softer for the post-lobotomy crowd, then so be it.

It is just that. My opinion.

@Knoxximus (XBL/PSN): Me either. He's just trying to keep cover.

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: I think you're missing the point. At the time the Wii came out, Videogames, by and large, were for kids and enthusiasts. Yes, there were exceptions with the PS2, singstar et al, but it was the Wii's marketing angle towards families (I'm talking *families* here. Mother, Father, Kids, Teenagers, Grandparents, the lot) that made their console something entirely different to their competetors.

Gundragon

@EnigmaNemesis: "You may sell millions, but when you do it in exchange for that spark that made millions of people look up to you, you loose prestige."

I don't remember you saying "to me" or "in my opinion" in that comment earlier. Because without it that makes your 'opinion' a sweeping statement. A sweeping statement which is false.

Svend Joscelyne

@Aidan_:

Obviously Miyamoto is just allowing Iwata to live. And I think a brutal death from lighting and/or fireballs is the ultimate pink slip.

Miyamoto: I'm not the Messiah!
Casual: I say you are, Lord, and I should know;
I've followed a few!
Casuals: Hail Messiah!
Miyamoto: I'm not the Messiah, would you please listen, I am
not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
Casual II: Only the true Messiah denies his
divinity.
Miyamoto: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me?
All right! I am the Messiah!
Casuals: He is! He is the Messiah!
Miyamoto: Now, fuck off!
Casuals: [Silence]
Man in crowd III: How shall we fuck off, oh Lord?