Report: PS3 Slim Is Real, Won’t Be At E3

"A cease and desist was sent to Kotaku from Taiwanese attorneys after we posted apparent pics of the rumored PS3 Slim."

kotaku, don't give in. don't let sony determine what you write - if the blackball proved anything, sony is mortal!

@theobling: The argument "How much it's worth to me" is incredibly stupid IMO. Who cares? It's different for every person, and even if you had all the money in the world a PS3 might not be "worth it" to you of all you want to play is Gears and Halo.

Sir-Lucius

@Fear-The-Unknown: look up "kotaku blackball" about how kotaku stood up to sony, and won!

i plan on holding off til sometime before trico releases anyhow, price drops anyone?! slim better equal cheaper

hokagespit

Even if it IS thinner, will there be a price drop associated with it? I mean, seriously, it's like I just GOT the big, bulky original PS3. Man, I don't remember the PS2 slim coming out this fast...

*heaves a heavy sigh of regret for her early purchase*

@Dead Giveaway:

Yep, I've been holding off from buying a PS3 until they refactor it. I don't care if it's aesthetically pleasing, I just want it to be smaller, and if at all possible, more affordable. Looks like I may become a PS3 owner a year earlier than I expected.

yagisencho

@element7: If you don't use half those features, the PS3 doesn't seem like that big a bargain for you, now does it?

That's why people say that it's not worth the price. Not because of what you get for the money, but because people can't or simply don't see the need for what you get.

RockyRan

I love my big, black BC behemoth, fuck all the haters...

king rex

@ca$h: Classic compulsive behaviour, on my part. :p

Bialia

@Jordan Lenton: I'm glad I'm not poor so I don't have to tell that to myself.

@ca$h: Like Balia, you foolishly think that people should be forced to buy a console when Sony wants to instead of when it's most convenient for you.

Congrats that you can blow off $400+ on a console. FYI, not everyone can do that, nor do they want to. BC is a big deal for some people (hell, its absence kept me away from buying a PS3 last year), but not nearly enough to dump my plans and splurge hundreds on a console earlier than I want just because Sony doesn't feel like putting it into the future models.

I don't give a fuck if anyone considers 20 months "ample time". I was waiting on the PS3 to drop down in price significantly (into the $300 range) before considering picking one up, and considering I've never owned a PS2, its BC was really an attractive offer. But BC was taken out before the price dropped significantly. There were many factors (price included) that prevented me from buying one in those 20 months that you foolishly consider "ample time".

Attempting to put the blame on the consumer for Sony's shortcomings is both idiotic and showcases fanboyism.

RockyRan

@ca$h: PSX2 runs most games perfectly fine in it's latest build. Still some beefy hardware needed to get good framerates though but other than that, it's just a matter of throwing in a disc and playing your game (minus bios files which you can dump from your PS2, I can't help you with any other way, you understand).

-MasterDex-

@element7: Not to mention the value in the fact that you can easily put a 500GB or more HDD into the PS3 without worrying about proprietary formats / models.
Easy HDD Swapping? Value Added
Bluray Player? Value Added
Wifi Built-in? Value Added
Reliability? Value Added
Please, tell me those aren't of any value.

If it's $300 with full PS2 BC, I'll finally jump into the current gen.

@seamonkey420: I did read the whole comment. Did you?

It attempts the argument of "If you don't think the PS3 is worth it then you 'don't get it'" and fails hard, considering the concept of "worth" is different for every person. No, I don't care that you have Blu-ray packed in, and I don't care that the console is "only" $300/400, because I'm not going to use the features I'm supposedly getting a bargain for. So no, the PS3 ISN'T worth it for me, and it's not because I don't "get it".

It's like someone's selling me a $5000 oscilloscope for $2000. Is it a bargain? Sure. Is it worth it? No, not to me. What if a physicist attempts to laugh in my face and say that I "don't get it" because he uses it and I don't? I laugh at his face and say "I don't need it, so it's not worth it to me. Get over it".

RockyRan

Uhm.... BluRay, apparently. It seems the PS3 had that back then. And at $500 for a 20gb, it would have made PS3 the cheapest BluRay player on the market. OR SO I'VE HEARD.

EellenCaerus

Putting aside any comments about the XBOX360 because I know SOMEONE will eventually spin my comment into an insult to their faith.

I really don't understand how ANYONE can justify the statement, "The PS3 is not worth it's price." You'd have to be a mentally retarded individual to know that the value inside the PS3 is well worth it's price and then some.

XBOX360 Pro 60GB = $299.99
PS3 80GB = $399.99

PS3 comes with Wi-Fi, Blu-Ray, and their online MP is free of charge. If the PS3 were the same price as the XBOX360 Pro 60GB at $299.99 -- Would you be able to see the value added then? The Blu-Ray alone is about a $100+ purchase seperately. And I don't want to hear that shit about how Blu-Ray is pointless. Almost every movie that goes DVD also goes to Blu-Ray nowadays and it is what everyone with an HDTV is watching.

The PS3 is $100 more expensive than the XBOX360 and while I understand for most people, that extra $100 is the edge of the cliff; it is in no way incentive to claim that the PS3 is not worth it. If they happen to announce a price drop anytime this year; you'll be a getting a damn steal.

See you in hell, Spider-Man font!

@WolFEnsTeiN68:
The 80 gig MGS pack for $500 was an even better deal. More memory, and still retained PS2 BC.

Personally, it's more money than I've ever spent for gaming-- but the upshot is I get a Blu-Ray player to boot. Now while I couldn't give a flying flip about BR, I will say that the upscaling of all my DVD's makes them look like Blu-Ray on my HDTV. They kind of shot themselves in the foot on that one, but hey, my gain.

Squirrelbot3000

@Kiaza: Look at the Nintendo DS. Now look at the Nintendo DS Lite.

A remodel does far more than just lower prices.

Svend Joscelyne

@Gray665: Magical Blu-Ray Pixie Dust, obviously.

@Bialia:
Man, don't waste anymore of your time on him. Your thoughtful and logical comments are better served on someone who posses the ability of thought and logic.

I too followed the simple thought path of "Hey, I like playing all the PS games on one console, but they're soon gonna discontinue that feature. Hmm, guess I'll go BUY one before they disappear instead of bitching about it on the internet a year and a half later."

@nkxjakfhda:
What the fuck is with people still bitching about backwards compatibility in 2009?
Sony should throw out an emulation package for 100-200 'popular' PS2 games like Microsoft did on the 360 just to shut these guys up. I mean, it worked for them. Never heard anyone say "Dude, I'll buy a 360 only when I can play all my old Xbox games on it."
I mean if you really want BC so bad just take your old PS2 slim and duct tape it to the flat part of the PS3. After all, that's essentially what the old PS3's did.

@NextGenPlayer:
Futuristic? It's exactly same as the PS2 logo from 10 years ago, except they rounded the edges.

Are you saying there will be no right angles in the future? Cause that'd be a pain in the ass for so many reasons.

@Shin-san:
Indeed.

You can definitely see where the $600 went if you look inside. That thing is like an engineer's wet dream. Every piece in it is either made out of or contained in steel and just screams high quality. No wonder that thing weighs 11 pounds.

As a gamer I'm kinda 'meh' on the PS3, but as a hardware guy, I know the PS3 is the best console ever produced (in terms of quality of internal engineering).

@XRFlip05: I'm waiting for BC myself, mostly because I don't want to have to buy a replacement PS2 and a new PS3 because my PS2 gave up the ghost.

I figure if dual shock can come back, BC has to come back around at some point. Sony's like a boomerang like that.

@Sir-Lucius:
Haven't kept up with the PS2 emu scene for years. Glad to hear its gotten better, because the first ones were absolutely balls-awful. Any recommendations?

Kinda funny you need a beefy PC to play PS2 games, considering the console only has a 299 MHz CPU and 32 MBs of RAM!

@badong:
@atrimus:

Just an FYI, but using today's XE.com to calculate 4 year old currency exchanges would be a pretty silly idea, considering for a while the rate was some $2 for every £1!

Comparing today's prices (main retailers such as Gamestop for US and GAME for UK) at today's exchange rate:

80 GB PS3 UK - £299.99 = $477.42 (~$77 higher)
80 GB PS3 US - $399.99 = £251.34 (~£40 lower)
40 GB PS3 UK new - £299.99 = $477.42 (~$130 higher)
40 GB PS3 US preowned - $349.99 = £219.99 (~£80 lower)

Those are not typos, the 40GB is marketed at the same price as the 80GB. You may freely speculate as to whether this is a bargain 80GB or an overpriced 40GB.

Regardless, anyone stateside who would pay $477.42 for a plain 80gig PS3 may continue berating people.

I would avoid comparing 60gig preowned because of the 60GB Euro controversy, adding some £100/$50 to the price of a new 80GB because of BC. Mind you, I've found a preowned 60GB for £250/$400 from an unreliable source (maybe I'll buy it and put it on Continuous Play til it inevitably dies and can be replaced with a fresher 60GB, Sony willing).

Next you need to factor in the price of some quality titles. I would suggest 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the console itself, depending on your taste in games and luck with preowned.

Of course, in the Sony glory days, you could have bought a PS2 and then went berserk in the PS1 new/preowned and got a ton of quality games. With the PS3, your only option on a budget is preowned/platinum PS3 games - which are nice enough but nowhere as expansive as the option to raid PS2+PS1 or indeed PS3+PS2+PS1 rails.

I hope we all now feel educated on foreign money. Personally, and it's a tired old message I know, I think full software BC or a marginal price drop would provide a suitable jumpstart to sales - on top of what I expect to see at E3, I would expect it to severely boost PS3 sales (especially with the growing movement to, and cheapness of, Blu-Ray movies).

Oh, and I don't know what planet BubbleBuddy is on, because the Wii, 360, and even the PS2 itself are all under £200

@nkxjakfhda: I'm not twisting anything, I'm giving you the facts.

Again, November 2006 to June 2008. 20 months. If that's not ample time, I don't know what is.

Sony's original plan was likely not to eventually remove BC functionality after a certain point, but they did announce they were dropping hardware BC in July of 2007, though the supply of 60gb consoles lasted into 2008 in many places. This is from Kaz Hirai himself.

Software BC Motorstorm bundles were available into 2008, and the MGS4 bundle, of course, appeared in June. As someone who is enough of a gaming enthusiast to read and comment on a site like this, it should've been common knowledge for you- PS2-BC units were readily available into 2008, and the software based models have proven more than adequate for those who have them.

And for the record, PS1 functionality has always been available.

Bialia

@rip: Most of this argument can be boiled down to the glaring difference in the two ways in which people are using the word "value". Some of you are using it in a personal context, as in "How much is it worth to me?", while others are using it in a more general context ("How much is this product worth when compared to similar products, or a collection thereof, based on its technical specs?"). If this argument were to be broken up into two (one for each of those two versions of the word "worth"), with discussions of proper value then discussed in each, I think it would be a lot more organized and civilized.

theobling

@sereal: I know plenty of people willing to pay full price for a used PS3 just to get the backwards compatibility.

-MasterDex-

@-MasterDex-: amen. I got a 20GB (which I forgot even existed) with 2 controllers and a copy of madden for about $280. Once I sold Madden and the 2nd controller, it came out to under $250, and then given that I got Valkyria Chronicles for $30, I'm set for a while for no more than I wanted to pay for a PS3

@jamesjohnson01: Recession smesshion. Haha. TVs are getting stupid cheap nowadays, and I dunno about you, but salaries are largely the same for people with work. There's just less people with a job. So if you still have your job from '08, I doubt there's much to complain about except higher bills to pay.

You are one igonorant fuck! I don't have a job and can't get one because of this recession that you can brush off so easily. We're not all as blessed as yourself.

-MasterDex-

@Bialia: You can say that all you want. Doesn't change the fact that a BC PS3 would get some people to buy who, right now, are on the fence.

zegota

@Bialia: I'm with you, I bought a 60GB when they eol'ed it. They dropped the price and it was good enough for me. Recently finished playing Persona 4 on it. While its not a huge deal for me, since I had a ps2, its very convenient.

The funny thing is that the 60GB has lost very little value over time. I could ebay it and probably get enough to buy one of these slim ps3.

rip

@Mister Jack contains Potassium Benzoate (That's Bad): Cease and Desist letters don't necessarily mean anything. I could send you a C&D right now, doesn't mean it's legally binding. I'm sure Gawker's legal department looked at it and decided it wasn't a big deal.

zegota

@Bialia: about the
redesign, it's a mistake. i didn't erase the tag.
i said that in general.

nkxjakfhda

@[img12.imageshack.us]

@dgkz0idberg:

@Shin-san:

Would still cut down power consumption in a slim model even if the fat models go 45nm... after all, figure how much juice that massive cooling system the PS3 uses. It may make the system near-silent, but it's also super-heavy.

Michael Fisk

@Jordan Lenton: I payed £280 for my 360 on release. To this day, despite it breaking down four times, it was worth it. I payed £200 for my PS3. I don't think it was worth it.

mzo

@Bialia: was that
"ample time" long enough?, did sony even officially
announce that they will only be available for a
certain period of time? who would have thought they
would take out the bc just to drop the price down?
i don't care how you twist the lack of bc.
it's all for the ps3's merits.

nkxjakfhda

@nkxjakfhda: ???!

For the record, I actually like the PS3 redesign, and have said so on previous posts.

I'm pretty sure I didn't even talk about the redesign in this thread, so why you're throwing that at me, I openly admit, I don't understand.

Bialia

@-MasterDex-: It's funny, I play more PS2 games on my PC than I do on my PS3, and I have a 60gig. Granted, most of what I've been playing recently have been Japanese imports, and I'm too lazy to hook up my Japanese PS2.

PS2 emulation on PC is surprisingly good, although you do need a pretty beefy system for certain games. Shadow of the Colossus is brutal. But yeah, Sony should easily be able to emulate PS2 games on the PS3.

Sir-Lucius

@Anthony Joseph Lazzarino: Good god, why in the world would you pay $40 for a blu-ray movie? Good luck finding a $40 blu-ray on Amazon. Most(as in 90+%) are in the $20-25 range. About the same as a special edition dvd. While that is on the high side, it is not $40. And you are starting to see older blu-rays for under $15.

You must pay $30 for dvds because that is what they list for. Shops must love you if you pay full suggested retail on everything...

Additionally, the PS3 is not $600. Seriously, did you just read up on the PS3 and blu-ray 3 years ago and never updated your information?

rip

@nkxjakfhda: I'm sorry- did you not read the part of my post where I said I ran out and bought a 60 gb PS3 when I found out BC was being phased out? What part of that leads you to believe I don't take it seriously? And where the frig did I complain and moan about a price drop?

And of course I use the PS2 functionality less now. The PS3 library is great at the moment. Every once in a while I'll pop in a PS2 disc, but not with the frequency I did when I first purchased the PS3. It's to be expected, isn't it?

You had ample time to buy the model you wanted, for a decent price. You knew the BC was being phased out, and you let the opportunity pass you by. You didn't buy the product you wanted when it was readily available, and you still didn't buy the product you wanted when you knew it was being discontinued.

But I guess it's fun to complain...?

Bialia

@sereal: I'd buy a ps3 slim as long as sony doesn't f*ck up the firmware updates. My 40gb ps3 won't read any blu-ray discs anymore because of the 2.76 update.

@Fear-The-Unknown: Technically, its a picture of a box, that just so happens to have a picture of the PS3 slim on it. Way to go Kotaku. You get +1 to legal circumnavigation.

@Bialia: oh yeah, just wtf
is wrong with current ps3's design? it still looks
cool and shiny. we need a new design so badly now?

nkxjakfhda

@Bialia: Agreed. I don't buy consoles over $300 usually, but when I heard about the 60GB going out I just HAD to dump my money on it and grab one of the last ones.

@Bialia:i can't believe
some gamers are not taking bc seriously just because
they don't use it. you just don't realize the convenience of using one console to play all these ps1,2,3 games.
sony is the first one that came with the idea of bc on their ps2, it was so great being able to play both ps1, ps2, and even dvds in one console.
back then, sony received a lot of compliments from
users and critics for making it possible to play games
from previous generation
nintendo adapted the idea and now they are the only
doing it right with bc.

anyway, i don't care when you bought your ps3 or how
much you paid for it, you can't justify the lack of
bc just because it was available for some time.
wtf kind of bs is that?
do you know why they took out the ps2 bc? because they
wanted to drop the price down, because some gamers like
you keep complaining and moaning about price drop.

nkxjakfhda

@-MasterDex-: Recession smesshion. Haha. TVs are getting stupid cheap nowadays, and I dunno about you, but salaries are largely the same for people with work. There's just less people with a job. So if you still have your job from '08, I doubt there's much to complain about except higher bills to pay.

@Sig R.: At least the HDMI option was there.

Microsoft shouted for a long time that they didn't need HDMI. After the PS3 came out they made the HDMI Elite 360. Lol.

@OkayOctane: You're almost a year late to the backwards compatible PS3 club, bub.

@RockyRan:

ok, i'm taking the bait here.

if you read his whole comment then THE PS3 is not for you. for me, the PS3 is worth it since i also have the full HDTV, 5.1 DTS/Dolby setup.

the PS3 hardware/innards are worth more than what sony is asking so it is worth it literally.

however for me, a console that has a history of failures but yet is still over $100 cheaper is not worth the $100 i save because like a ton of people i konw; they had to buy their consoles twice. i'm no hater but i ain't no x360 lover either.

so to each there own i guess.

@dgkz0idberg: but that would look like a trash-bin. A stylized hi-tech polished trash-bin.

@AngryEddy: +10 internets to you, sir.

@dustintriplett: And I would say your stupid for even considering replacing that phat ps3 since I assume it still works :)

sereal

@Kiaza: you got a point there. The way I see it is ps3 slim == cheaper ps3 fat

sereal

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!:

nicely put!

i would agree, my 60gb launch PS3 replaced my over $800 HTPC for my living room's media center :)

@spacemonkey0: I'm aware there are adapters there but I don't want to have my PC going through VGA because my PS3 (when I get one) has to go through DVI because Sony aren't willing to release a VGA cable to the market.

-MasterDex-

@-MasterDex-: I wouldn't call it a goldmine to play ps2 games. my ps2 does it fine.

sereal

@Kiaza: Why would they even bother making the slim if it was more expensive? The whole point of this is to reduce costs.

-MasterDex-

@nkxjakfhda: You do realize, all other concerns aside, you had from November 2006 until June 2008 to pick up a backwards compatible PS3?

I bought my 60gb, for $479, as soon as I heard it was being discontinued. I was hoping it'd get cheaper, but when I found out that soon the model I wanted was going to disappear forever, I knew I had to take the frickin' plunge, and if I didn't, it would be nobody's fault but mine. And the thing was worth every penny (though I haven't used to PS2 BC functionality in months).

You had over a year and a half to save enough money to buy the model you wanted. There was even a $100 price cut! Everybody moaning and lamenting over the lack of BC dug their own hole.

/rant

Bialia

@strideo: The Wii looks pretty sleek.

Zorantor

@Yossarian: Agreed. Also add in those people who have been losing their jobs or afraid to lose their jobs in the economy (yes, even back in 2006 when the PS3 launched I feared the worst so I assume others did too). Or those people who just can't afford the price (I couldn't even buy any of the consoles out there now, so I'm glad I bought what I have when I did.)

A slim PS3 I may just have to buy one now.

As in, it will be in America late summer/early fall? Sweet, I wasn't expecting it this early. IMO, the Slim is much less of an eyesore than the Phat. And this thing will most likely come with a price drop.

blalien

i think it looks awesome but i also think we ALL should wait to see more photos before flipping out over how "ugly" it is.

mmgg113

Hmm. Might wait for the slim then. I've been wanting to pick one up for Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2.

ghostadv

I thought the cease and desist was hilarious. I might as well have called you up and told you to stop or else lol.

Ghostwise

I will likely continue with plans to get a fat ps3 - as I am worried what they are removing to make it a slim one. -=0

Turael

If there's no backwards compatibility, then no sale for me.

No, not because I'm waiting for B/C to come back to PS3, but because there is not a chance in hell that I would replace my launch 60gig. :) :) :)

@Kazzahdrane: You don't 'get' you that there is a extreamly powerful and new processor which your 360 doesn't have. Now that doesn't equate to good games, but it does mean that the ps3 offers things the 360 doesn't such as linux, and use for researchers.

sereal

@jellyfish: browsing too much SDF no?

OrtenseDemophon

@Frank: no, you still don't make any sense. "the fanboys"? what fanboys? no matter what kind of "fanboy" i put into that sentence, it still makes no sense.

spacemonkey0

@Jordan Lenton:
Ha, just that built-in WiFi is already $100 on X360, and what about the Blu-Ray function ? You can say you don't care about Blu-Ray that one thing, but to me it is still cheaper than X360 with the same number of functions. And when a plain Blu-Ray Disc Player is still at $200, just $100 more you get to play games and go online wifi, that's worth it I say. I didn't get one when it first came out, yes, it was out of my reach at $600, the PS2 backwardability is not an issue coz my PS2 still works. And HDD size is not an issue too coz I've U/G that myself with a 250GB from Tiger Direct, nice and easy.

jellyfish

@-MasterDex-: Just an opinion. Wasn't trying to offend anyone. To me, a horse is a horse is a horse.

For the people who don't have a Ps3, this may be for them, if it's cheaper. Lest we forget that the smaller something is in the computer world, the more expensive it is usually.

Kiaza

@-MasterDex-: HDMI->DVI cable + DVI->VGA adapter. $10 on monoprice. done.

spacemonkey0

@Ackers: Not as silly as the Wii.

A cease and desist, but yet, this is the 3rd time I've seen that picture posted here.

@Fear-The-Unknown: Just who are these Taiwanese attorneys anyways?

@gojirah: he's been 100% correct over time and has made 10ish "guesses". this is all factual info.

I'll definitely now be holding out on the PS3 until the slim comes out. The PS2 slim was fantastic.

Nothing out there right now that I ABSOLUTELY NEED a PS3 for anyway, so it's working out well.

@Orionsaint: Keep dreaming buddy while I keep fragging

Malform

Duh.

jamBot

PS3 slim for $199?

@-MasterDex-: interesting

TT

HAH! I hope this is true. It really does pay to delay delay delay with big console purchases. I got my 360 after that first big price drop and I have been pretty happy with it, even if I got one ring of death. Just once, not twice or three times, knock on wood.
I always thought that PS3 was jumping the gun with their console. Introducing it right before the economic downturn. While they offered a far superior, powerhouse system, its still a luxury item, not a used electric hollow body guitar. I would pay 500 dollars for that and I could look myself in the mirror after wards.
It has only recently begun to seem like a wise purchase for me, now that they have a nice stack of exclusives and it seems only more inevitable that they might drop the price by the holidays.

tnmnsquare

Dunno, but i don´t think that box is real. The design is awful, the PS3 typo is really bad and the PS3 Slim seems really generic and boring, which makes it really hard to believe since everyone knows how much effort Sony puts in the design and graphic design of their products...

Daniel Pizarro Sánchez

@badong: Not only that but... he said more than £200... the PS3 is currently £300. Stick that number in xe.com.

@Sir-Lucius:
I rarely watch movies, and I don't own a HD TV (and have no plans of getting one in the near future, as I never watch TV anyway), so that's essentially why I don't care for BR movies.

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: "get it"? Food and shelter don't just fall out the sky where I come from. Perhaps you live in candyland, where the money grows on trees.

tnmnsquare

@nick_gc: I'm just saying that the fanboys have always regarded the PS3 as a failure, and they will actually be justified if/when the Slim comes out, at least with the "phat" version.

@OkayOctane: Check out Ebay, etc and you should find a backwards compatible model for cheap enough. There's a lot of people out there that don't have any idea of the goldmine they're selling.

-MasterDex-

@blizzardjesus: Have you a problem with Europeans?

If so...

*Readies big-ass steel bat*

-MasterDex-

@Jordan Lenton:

$200 (software future proofed) network enabled blue ray player
+ $200 console.
= PS3

There, not so expensive anymore.

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: I feel the exact same way you do, but I can't find a reason to pay full price for it atm.

Blu-Ray is a nice thing to have, but I don't want to pay 40$ for a movie that I already own just to watch it with a higher quality (I'd pay for the up in sound quality, though). Same goes for paying a 10th of the price of the console on a single game. 60$ a game and 600$ for the system is quite high. Even all the features don't make up for that.

Once the price drops I'm all over it, but for now I'll wait...and are there discounts for buying over PSN?

Anthony Joseph Lazzarino

@ReynaldoRiv: You should go check up how well PS2 emulation on the PC works and that's just with a ragtag bunch of code monkeys at the helm. With a professional team and official support there's absolutely no reason why they couldn't emulate the PS2 hardware effectively.

-MasterDex-

@NextGenPlayer: That's the thing about futuristic lettering. It's like flying cars. It's never coming. We're going to be always stuck with stupid non-flying cars and stupid easy to read font.

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: Did it ever occur to you that people DON'T have HDTVs? Or surround sound? Or care about either?

I have a nice 19" monitor that I game on, and also a nice set of speakers (read: not surround sound) with a nice subwoofer. Absolutely nothing fancy and gets me through gaming simply because I can't stand gaming on any of the TVs I own (all CRTs).

That means A) I can't use Blu-ray, B) I can't use surround sound and C) Don't give a shit about output options. Aside from being over $100 more expensive for me, I can't take advantage of the vast majority of the PS3's features even if I wanted to.

I don't think YOU "get it" that other people don't see the need or can't use the PS3 to the best of its abilities. It's wonderful that you have all that stuff to game on and can use it, but you have to understand that NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU. "Worth" is a relative word that changes for everybody. To you the PS3 might be worth it because of what you can do with it, but to me it isn't. It's nice that a PS3 fits your needs, but it doesn't fit mine, and that's something that PS3 lovers need to get through their heads.

RockyRan

@Kiaza: Of course you wouldn't get it when you already have a PS3. It's a non-issue. It doesn't mean you have to call the thing a joke.

You might not have heard, but not everyone has a PS3 and for them, the slim will make a nice, neat addition to their cabinet, desk, table, whatever youput your consoles on.

-MasterDex-

@Dead Giveaway: Actually, the PS3 slim is entirely DLC. Just buy a Sony Vaio and you can download it. Purely digital, man. Like no 3D space at all. Flat.

@elmorepow: I think it's just a grainy picture. A better picture may have all kinds of shininess and spidermany fontage.

@Boter: The ars technica mole seems to have had a history of correct reports.

I can be persuaded to purchase another PS3, SONY... Do your best.

RedundantInsomniac

@Gray665: They've simply packed less fudge inside.

@Kiaza: Cool story, bro.

@ROFLSAURUS: I believe it when you say it overheated but less powerful? You honestly believe that?

And why would you even consider buying the slim model if you already have a PS3?

-MasterDex-

@V1L3: I wouldn't call VGA a cable from the 90's. Many people have screens pre '06 that don't have HDMI connections and only have VGA and DVI connections. For those people, (I'm included in this) VGA is neccessary for connecting multiple systems (I currently have my 360 plugged into my monitor using VGA along with my PC via DVI).

Of course, you can always provide myself and all the others stuck in the 90's with the cash to spend on a new monitor because I don't know about you but us 90's folk are facing a recession.

-MasterDex-

@Shin-san: Still not a reason for me to really get it. Maybe if my Ps3 crapped out... Maybe.

Kiaza

@Jordan Lenton: You live in Europe, your argument is invalid.

@fatheadwilson: The problem with those saying that the PS3 wasn't worth it's price at launch and even now is that they're claiming it as a universal truth.

The hardware and the software in the PS3 is worth the price it costs.

If it wasn't worth the price it costs, Sony wouldn't be so hasty to be releasing a slim version along with a possible price cut and it would have been much cheaper at launch. You get what you pay for and that's certainly true for the PS3.

To summarize, It may not be worth their money to spend >£200 on a console but that's their perogative. It still doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is worth it's hefty price tag.

-MasterDex-

@V1L3: Well they didn't exactly cater to us either with no HDMI cable.

Sig R.

@V1L3: HEY! I use a VGA on my Xbox 360, I'm not stuck in the 90s!

@atrimus: Bluray laser head cost more than DVD laser head. Do you see me compare my Toyota's engine to a Lamborghini's? You can say you don't have the money, but value does not depreciate by your own justification.

feathers4sale

@Đipic: They have been removing stuff from the PS3 since PAL release, now that there is nothing else to take remove, they make it ugly ... seems like Sony hates late adopters.

uzivatel

@AngryEddy: So, are all the backward compat PS3s off the market now? Cos that's a big selling point for me. I know I'm getting one, but if it had backward compatibility it would just make it perfect. I want to play ICO and Shadow of the Collossus and Okami and a few other games I missed.

What I want to know is...what features are they cutting to make it "slim"?

Gray665

@this image pops into my mind whenever I see the system. :p

@V1L3:

Hmmm not sure something that looks less..meh, and less like a notebook. Perhaps a bit more like this:

[mix.fresqui.com]

And no matte finish is not "(i.e. better)", that's a matter of opinion and preference.

Yeah, I'm still calling shens. "Close sources" don't cut it for me when it looks like *that*.

@Jordan Lenton: Everyone that's telling Jordan Lenton that he's wrong are being idiots. Just because something is "worth it" to you, doesn't mean the same applies to everyone else.

And I agree, that at launch, $600 was too much money to pay for a console. I still won't buy one until it's $250 or below, and realistically I'll probably wait until it's $199. I have a 360 and a Wii and I barely have time to play those, so getting a third console at all is going to be hard to justify. This generation of gaming makes me wish I was still in college or highschool and had the freetime I had back then.

@zanzibarlegend: What's wrong with their PS3 PS1 emulation? Why would they need to update it?

Not only is it FAR superior to the PS1 emulation found on the PS2 it has never been removed from any model PS3.

FrankieViturello

@Thomas Flores: it had to GO!

abort_user

@ReynaldoRiv: lmao... yeah an my pc cant emulate ps2 games either!

abort_user

@Kaged-Animal: That is a rediculous statement, and if it was intended to be a question (those end in ?'s by the way) then it was a rediculous question.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: He could get an arcade... it's a console... sort of

PS3 is well worth the cash though. I use mine daily and it has provided much more entertainment than my 360.

I wish that both consoles let you use your Avatar/Home character in all online games though

Rory Michael O'Sullivan

@Combichristoffersen: I've never understood the "not interested in Blu-ray" argument. So much emphasis is put on games looking good this generation that I find it hard to believe/sad that people don't care about the picture quality in their movies and TV. Yet we have fools who will sit there and analyze the most minute difference in pixels between a PS3 and 360 game to start stupid flame wars. It doesn't make sense to care that much about how a relatively crappy game looks (compared to what pre-rendered 3D is capable of) and be completely satisfied with how poorly even upscaled DVD's and TV look. Because in all honesty, standard def video looks like donkey balls on a HD setup.

I'm not accusing you of having that particular belief. More of a general observation about the bizarre double standard of your average modern gamer. I just can't understand it - hi-def tv's and hi-def media just seem to go together to me, so maybe you can enlighten me.

Of course, if you don't have an HD setup, the point is moot. And I guess considering market penetration of HD anything, most gamers don't have an HDTV. Which makes the focus on graphics even more silly since most people aren't even close to getting the full experience.

Sir-Lucius

@ert47: In the US that is whats known as a sale lol.
They raise the price to about the MSRP then say its on sale and take off whatever they want.

Crypysmoker

Unless sony Adds ps2 compatibility, Wipes out the PS2 and lowers the Price this just says FAIL all over it.
I mean, they are already loosing money on PS3's, so now not even 4 years into the life cycle lets force out another revision of it so that kids who couldnt afford it before think its affordable and beg thier parents for it.

Im sorry, I like the fact that my PS3 can not only be used as a gaming/media machine, but a doorstop, a paperweight, keeps the gate closed so the baby doesnt come in my room, And cooks a mean hamburger lol

Crypysmoker

@Kaged-Animal:
..uh, so you're not a gamer because you're not willing to shell out $400 for a console? Going by that logic, I should go sneer at Tolkien fans who didn't shell out $150 for the special edition box set of the History of Middle-earth books.

@zanzibarlegend: Will never happen. They removed the Emotion Chip and the PS2 GPU.

In other words, find a used A-Type model (US/JPN 60GB) or B-Type model (US/JPN 20GB) and hold on to it because w/o those two pieces of hardware it just ain't happening.

And even if thy did put in the effort to get a couple of Cells to emulate them it would be unstable and almost unusable.

ReynaldoRiv

@nick_gc:At least it doesn't stink of generic brand external DVD-ROM drive *cough*Wii*cough*.

Seriously. Anyone who thinks the 360, PS3, or Wii are attractive needs to re-evaluate their entire belief structure. Because they're all boring/ugly. The only thing they're good for is playing games. Which, oddly enough, is exactly what I use them for.

V1L3

@ Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb... : "the sad part about all this...I'M A PS3 FANBOY :) " fixed for ya or you are a 360 hatter, because half the things you said are BS or changed/forgot some facts to provide your argument and the other half are based on taste

OrtenseDemophon

@Kaneda: I'm still unsure about what to think of this. I get a feeling the psthree might be removing stuff.

I liked my fat ps2 because of the hard drive support. The slim version lost that, which is why I re-bought a fat used one over a new slim when my first ps2 died.

note: I didn't pay for my PS2 hard drive, it was a gift from Square-enix.

@Jordan Lenton:

Your not really a gamer then are you

@mitch_93:

[en.wikipedia.org]

That comment is soooo yesterday.

@nkxjakfhda: It's a shame that you don't give a shit about things like price cuts and redesigns.

Because they're 1000x more likely to happen than Sony releasing an outdated cable for people stuck in the 90s.

V1L3

@dgkz0idberg: I don't think there was ever a confirmation from Sony themselves, which is why the pictures are still up.

@Mister Jack contains Potassium Benzoate (That's Bad): Now I'm not a big fancy city lawyer...

I don't think posting the picture twice and refusing to remove it gets you in any more trouble than having it posted once and refusing to remove it.

V1L3

@EDGE: What did you expect a PS3 Slim to look like?

This looks like a PS3, except slimmer, and with a matte (i.e. better) finish.

Frankly, I consider all the current consoles (and the vast majority of the previous generation) boring/ugly, so it doesn't make much difference to me either way.

V1L3

I like the fat version. That thing weights a ton, very solidly built & shiny. Usually the later slim version uses more plasticky materials and those minituarized component inside are easy electrical overstress probably, of course with "cheaper" price. =p

ahmeng

@matthewbennion:
I agree with that too. I wouldn't pay $400 for something that I might use twice a month or so (however technologically advanced it might be), but $200 would be acceptable.

@macr0planet: There is no point. You won't have a choice. It will replace the current model. Weren't you there when the same happened for PS1 and PS2? The price will stay the same for a while and then it'll drop.

Kaneda

@All: I happen to agree no console is worth over £200... Maybe it's just a UK recession thing!

matthewbennion

@Đipic: It's ugly indeed. I normally don't care about how consoles look but PS3 just has a way of annoying me. The Phat one is too big and the small one looks bad. Like I said it normally doesn't bother me so I wouldn't care after a while but they could do with a face lift on the thin model.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@Michael Fisk: They could still use 45nm chips in the big model. However, it will definitely make a difference because they use less components overall like smaller PCBs, less plastic, and less metal.

Shin-san

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!:
If you look at the technology inside the PS3, I guess it's worth $400, but as I'm not interested in online gaming or watching BR movies, the PS3 just isn't worth its price tag for me ATM. When it hits $200, we're talking.

@elmorepow: It does stink of cheap generic brand DVD player.

Wonder just how slim are the chances this thing has backwards compatibility...

@All: I don't think Jordan is referring to the value of the technology itself, more the value he personnally puts on video game entertainment.

cheeseboybeans

If it is to come - Sony please review that design. That's not a winner that one.

elmorepow

@Kazzahdrane: because people didn't get it. if you own a 1080p HDTV and a 5.1/6.1 or 7.1 surround system and want to take full advantage of it, you don't buy a 360. 360 will look and sound good with that setup, but PS3 provides more options and tech to take better advantage of that same setup. I have a vizio 37inch 1080p HDTV with a Sony STr-DG-720, a full 7.1 receiver. The sound options alone on the ps3 speaks for themselves and HDMI support for high quality sound and video have been supported on PS3 since launch. The options for tweaking the settings on a ps3 for output are serious and it's hard to imagine until you see and hear it for yourself.

The excuse usually is "I just want a game console" when these conversations come up. But look at what we're talking about here. Game consoles that support HDMI and HD resolutions with surround sound. If you're playing a PS3 or a 360 on standard definition sets with prologic II or stereo then it's a gimped experience. There's no "if, and, or but" about it. These machines were meant to be played with high fidelity sound and video with standard definition support being in place for people that couldn't afford HDTVs and surround sound. When you speak of the technology and what it can do for your games and movies, PS3 is the better console for the options it provides and yes, I did own a 360 and sold it after a year.

Gamewise, there are still a number of games I've played since Resistance at launch that have features that I have yet to see on 360. I've said it years ago that PSN would provide gaming that you won't get on LiveArcade until MS kills that ridiculous size cap (which I believe they finally have recently). You can buy the full version of Socom, Burnout Paradise, GT5:prologue, Warhawk, Wipeout, Ratchet and Clank and a number of other games direct from PSN and you'd be hard pressed to find similar games on LiveArcade.

I've been very happy with my PS3, the technology, the HDD upgrade options, the PSP/PS3 connectivity features, the PSN games and retail releases...

the sad part about all this...I'M A WII FAN :)

@macr0planet: No price drop on current models until the slim is released (probably $249 or $299) sometime in the fall most likely.

i think this ars whatever company wants the publicity....

Hartia

@Frank: I don't think that makes sense.

@Jordan Lenton: Of course the PS3 was worth more than $200, or whatever; it had a Blu-Ray player.
A dedicated Blu-ray player cost something ridiculous like £500 upon the PS3's release. It also has free online play, and at the time had backwards compatibility, making it well worth the cash.

Note: Bought a 360, because I'm a raving Bungie fanboy.

@Michael Fisk:

If the Ps3 slims has some new hardware backing it, sure. I can see that. But I don't think they are going to drastically change the system with a redesign. That would anger too many people who currently own a Ps3.

As for the Psp. It does have a decent UI, But I would like to see some more abilities to customize it and make it so its practical to use. Also. if it has dual analog, i'm sold.

Kiaza

@EDGE: i hear ya, if sony would announce a ps1/ps2 emulation software update for the PS3 at E3,ps3 owners would rejoice all over the world... AND it would help them sell what they have in stock now so they can prepare for the slim launch.

@ert47: The Wii is going up in price in the UK? Really? :-/

@Đipic: I like shiny.

@Đipic: word up. and what the fuck, i didn't buy a console to stare at how slim or phat it is anyways. im too busy having fun playing games.

Once the PS3 Slim is actually confirmed-confirmed, the previous version will be regarded as a big fat failure, regardless of what the multitude of satisfied purchasers (I have a JP 40GB ;_; ) think.

There will be rejoicing among the fanboys like no tomorrow...

@atrimus: The 360 was definitely worth it if you got it four years ago.

The 60gig PS3 is also worth $600. It may not have been worth it at the start or for that first year, but Sony has definitely hit its stride and released some killer titles. People should have bought the 60gig back then so that we wouldn't have as many people bitching about B/C. Plus if sales were strong they wouldn't have gotten rid of it.

@AngryEddy: What if the slim model has backwards compatibility? If it does, keep sharp objects away from him!

bloggerX

@jayntampa: Well... it is a smaller product, so the slims should slide in between all the bulky PS3s currently being ignored.

For you all to know I was sarcastic and I know it has games. One reason why I'm buying it later this year.

mitch_93

I don't get it Brian, whatever happened to "Report: Flash-Based PSP And PS3 Slim Are Real"? :P

@mitch_93:

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BubbleF**kingBuddy

@Jordan Lenton: Comments like that are why the FaceBook crossover thing was such a bad idea.

hmm... makes me think... as the Wii is currently going up in price in the UK, maybe Nintendo are planning to lower the price making people think that they're getting a deal even though it costs the same as it did before the price hike :K

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@Fear-The-Unknown: fuck yeah, bash sticks it to the man

@M.C.-Action: yeah the other half will be 3 feet thick ;)

jup, you herd it here first!

I still think we'll see a price drop ... how else are they going to clear out the current product to make room for the slim?

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: The Wii is £179.99 and the 360 Arcade is £149.99 I believe (RRPs of course, can be found for less).

In fact, Amazon have the Arcade here: [www.amazon.co.uk] for £136.99.

@AngryEddy: LMFAO!!

Interesting to note that the in the linked article the PSP Go is going to be sold along side the original PSP. Not sure that was suggested in previous articles, much rather we all speculated. So assuming this has no extra features which it seems it won't then there's no need to purchase. Unless they show me a way of converting UMD games to the PSP Go (it's nicer to have everything in as small a package as possible).

@Kiaza: You may want to re-think that. Odds are that the slim PS3 will be using Cell and RSX processors made on a 45nm process, and that should cut power consumption way down. Then again, it's not really meant for people who already have a PS3.

How, exactly, doesn't the PSP have a good user interface? Works quite nicely. And I doubt we'll see better graphics, at least not with this system. This is just a radical redesign, seems like.

Michael Fisk

I@Jordan Lenton: If I wasn't such a stubborn ass (and if I had the money) I would have gladly spent the full asking price for the PS3 on release.

Im stayin' with my fatass PS3, because of prior experiences. When I lost my first PS2, it was about time the Slim model came out, and I really regret buying that model. It always overheated on me and it was less powerful. But that's just me.

i don't give a shit about slim ps3 or price cut.
just do support ps2 backward compatibility by releasing
a firmware, please. also, support different display
resolutions, and release an official vga av cable like
microsoft did. i know the av multi support rgb with
sync on green which can be easily converted
to rgbhv(vga connection).

nkxjakfhda

@Đipic: Agreed!

M.C.-Action

@Kiaza: History has proven times and times again that remodeling a console works wonders. I remember buying a second PS1 and PS2 when the smaller versions came out just because they were so refreshing and overall a good excuse to give my older models to my family. Sales spike whenever Nintendo or Sony comes out with a new model of a same console. That's just how it works.

You know those detergent ads that tell you "This bottle of detergent is smaller but gets your clothes as clean and it leaves less garbage in the dumps"? Same thing.

Kaneda

If they sent you a cease and desist, couldn't that picture up there at the top just get you guys in trouble? Not that I'm a lawyer or I'm trying to tell you guys how to run this blog, it just seems a little odd. Damn thing is ugly as hell anyway.

@Jordan Lenton: I spent £300 on my 360 at launch. PS3 is worth more than 360 too with the built in blue ray and wi-fi so yeah I'd say there worth it. Next console launch I'll hold back a year though.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

It looks pretty slick and I love the futuristic lettering.

@Đipic: yeah, sony's lost a lot the past few months and if they could lower manufacturing cost, it could lead to price cuts..

stalin23

@mitch_93:

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The slimmer the better.
Easier to disconnect and put away every so often.
Like the Wii.

@macr0planet: so sony can save money..make money

Van_Occupanther

@badong: after i posted this I realized how stupid my comment was i take it back.
i guess not every body are early adapters, my bad

@Đipic: But all we've seen are halves of the chassis.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

Slim PS3s would mean less space taken up when using several of them in a clustered linux environment. They are great machines but just a little too big for my liking.

johnnywashngo

@Jordan Lenton: "No games console is worth more than £200, no matter how advanced it may be."

Whatever you say, poor kid.

I wonder what you're playing right now, being how none of the current consoles cost less than 200 pounds.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@Jordan Lenton: 200GBP is roughly 320$ thats a bloody good deal your just a cheap bastard.

@Kiaza: The benefit to Sony, and presumably to customers is that it would be cheaper to make.

It's still too big. I never had a problem with the thickness, it's the overall size that's a bitch. I'll just stick with my PS3 obese.

@mitch_93: i feel a storm brewing....*runs away

@Striderhayasa: If by "didn't get it" you mean didn't pick one up because the price is exorbitant for a product that does not add much added value to your living room, then you are right, sir.

But if you meant "didn't get it" as in didn't understand the philosophical reasons why the PS3 deserved to be bought at any price, then your argument doesn't hold much water. Purchasing a PS3 is not about buying into some sort of Sony religion or political platform. It is solely about buying a device that fits your needs/desire as a home entertainment device. If it does, then great, but for many the value added is not as high as the price tag.

While I'd *like* to have a PS3 as well, I just can't justify the expenditure at this time. That doesn't mean I "don't get it", it just means I "haven't bought it."

why was the news on the psp go removed?

Thomas Flores

@Jordan Lenton: You know, I actually thought that the PS3 WASN'T worth it's price, but I still wanted one so I asked for it for my birthday as a "joint" present from parents / gf / sisters because there was no way I was spending my own money on a frivolous purchase.

Fast forward to now, a half a year of owning the PS3 and I absolutely do think it's worth it's price tag. I can understand why people don't want to spend the 400 bills on it (hell I didn't want to) but it really is a fantastic piece of hardware.

nastysquar3d

So if there is no price drop to go along with it, what is the point of even getting a slim? It looks worst that the initial PS3 design.

@EDGE: I'm the complete opposite - I'd much prefer a matte finish. I really like that my 360 Elite isn't glossy.

@Jordan Lenton:

What consoles are you playing currently?

cornerman8

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: Sorry but what was there to "get" about there barely being anything worth playing on it that couldn't already be played on the 360 I owned?

The PS3 has come a long way since launch, and I'm personally just waiting for a price drop/slim redesign before I finally pick one up and catch up on the 5 or so exclusives I really want to play and missed out on - but saying people just "didn't get it" makes you sound like a pretentious git.

The Ps3 Slim is a joke. Even if it is real, it's a joke. The only benefit I could see this having is a less amount of dust to clean off when I play it. I personally think that the Ps3 slim will be announced when Sony announces the price-cut. I don't care about a few more cubic inches to go out and spend money on something that does the same damn thing as the one I have now.

As for the PsP Go. That might be a bit interesting. It will need to have a few things that the current-gen psp doesn't. I'm talking about a nice UI, more connectivity with the Ps3, a GOOD BATTERY. Actual movie support. I would like to see a bit better graphics as well.

Kiaza

Great. Now I'm going to have to have a sit-down talk with my chunky 60GB PS3 and tell him that he's just fine the way he is...

...the fact he still has backwards compatibility helps the conversation immensely.

@Jordan Lenton:

i dunno. my 360 was worth $400 when i bought it about four years ago. and it was worth $350 when i had to re-buy it about two years ago. $600 was a bit steep for my 60gig PS3 2.5 years ago, but so many games have come out since that easily make it worth $400 now.

not sure how $ translates into your currency, or what your taste in games is. just offering my opinion.

While I like the idea of a "Slim" I'm not sold on that particular design. Let alone the fact that they will have to pry my launch 60GB out of my cold dead hands. II am also not a fan of matte finish on stylish electronic that NEED to be shiny! I know it's a finger print magnet…but well it should be!

Also it would be nice to see B/C added back in since they can pitch thsi as (obviously) part to the "new design".

but it looks silly :-(

"A cease and desist was sent to Kotaku from Taiwanese attorneys after we posted apparent pics of the rumored PS3 Slim."

And yet you still post the pictures, priceless!

Fear-The-Unknown

@nastysquar3d: Wait they make games for it?!

mitch_93

Good lord, I still think that thing is fugly beyond belief. I'll keep my phat, thanks.

LOL, good work Kotaku. Killed that original story in a flash. I thought my browser choked for a second.

@Jordan Lenton: wrong, the 60GB PS3 was worth the price of admission. The original 80GB PS3 was worth the price of admission. Just because legions of people don't understand the technology doesn't mean it wasn't worth it. It just means that a lot of people didn't "get it."

Meh, I don't really care what my PS3 looks like. Just as long as it plays games.

nastysquar3d

I'm holding out until it's under £200, slim, fat, 40GB or whatever.

No games console is worth more than £200, no matter how advanced it may be.

Jordan Lenton

@-MasterDex-: I am just saying. I won't even consider buying another console and I did notice the slim ran a tiny bit slower than my fatboy PS2. But this was the 1st gen slim.

@element7: Yeah. What retards. And you know what would make it an even better value? If they put two Wifi Adapters in there! Or, they could maybe fit another BluRay drive on the side... and another bay for you to put your own BluRay player in there! Or, wait... what if I don't want two WiFi adapters. Or 2 BluRay drives. Or even one.

Your logic is flawed. Sorry. Those things are of ZERO value to me. However, if they built-in some sort of a device that could play my PS2 games... but that would probably be impossible.

dresam

@ReynaldoRiv: Yeah, I can't see Sony re-releasing BC any time soon or for free. I was saying that it was possible without the emotion engine and so forth.

-MasterDex-

@Ryodestined: agreed.
a console capable of running all these great games
from ps1 to ps3, you just can't compare it with
any other console. people should not forget sony
started the bc, and it was such a great accomplishment.
it's funny how some people even bother opposing the
bc by a firmware. some sick morons even bitch on
people requesting the bc.

nkxjakfhda

@Bialia: ah, the earlier tag didn't
work.

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nkxjakfhda

PS3 console sales are already paralyzed in the US.

I don't care about the design (although I do like pretty electronics). I'm more concerned with the feature set. A 120GB HDD is nice, but I want my PS2 BC. I'm a cheap bastard and I want to save a few bucks by trading in my PS2 to upgrade to PS3. Is that so much to ask? I won't buy a non-BC PS3 for more than $200, regardless HDD size.

Ryodestined

@Jordan Lenton: Shows how much you really know about the system.
Is the system worth it? Yes.
Are you willing to pay it? No.

Just because you aren't willing to pay it, doesn't mean it isn't worth what it cost to make it. And it's not like some company slapped a 500 or 600 dollar price tag on something it cost them to build for 200 dollars. They actually lost money on it. The system itself is undeniably the best as far as hardware goes and it's not like it doesn't have alot of the same games the 360 has.
I bought mine and have no regrets for the simple fact, you got what you paid for: a nice piece of advanced hardware.

I love my big fat ass ps3 but i will definately pick up a slim at some point

digi7al

@Bialia: for you.
enjoy

nkxjakfhda

@Bialia: what is it about?
are you in the video? nah, you watch it all by yourself.

nkxjakfhda

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