Star Trek Predicts Future Of Video Games
There’s much that the Star Trek tells us about the future of collared shirts, the U.N. and torpedoes, but we’ve been trying to figure out what it says about the future of games.
Sadly, the folks at Bad Robot, production company behind this weekend’s Star Trek movie, were not able to tell us this week whether the era of James T. Kirk has room for a robust video game console market.
Is there a PlayStation on the Enterprise? We may never know.
But we do have some evidence that video games, unlike money (sort of), won’t be eliminated from the future as rendered by the various incarnations of Star Trek.
At a meeting with some game developers this week, I batted around some theories. Some of them — people more expert at Star Trek than I — cited some examples of video games in the Trek future.
A 1991 episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation entitled The Game featured a virtual reality game that was played with a headset and was taking over the minds of the crew. (See the trailer above). The polygon count of the game wasn’t all that great, suggesting that the Wii approach of gameplay-over-graphics may continue to win out even in the 24th century. The episode also implies in the future video games actually will be bad for you.
Several Star Trek fans consulted for this post argued that the famous virtual reality Star Trek chambers, the holodecks, are themselves the ultimate video game consoles. The real-time lighting and bump-mapping in the holodeck appears to be quite good.
That is, alas, all we’ve been able to dig up so far. Word has it that the new Star Trek movie features no video games.
But surely video games are the future? We’re not destined to go a world dominated by books and music as the chief cultural forms again, are we?
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@Kensukevic: There was that episode where the holodeck was commanded to infuse the hologram of Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes with an intellect that would challenge Data. This of course backfired, when moriarty was able to take over command of the ship from the holodeck, and demand the enterprise to figure out a way for him to leave the holodeck. Eventually this leads to the crew seamlessly tricking Moriarty into believing they succeeded in getting him off the holodeck in tact- in fact he was in a tiny holocube that contained a massive virtual world for him to explore - aka world of warcraft.
diagorus
Why play games about facing off with aliens when you can actually face off against them? Well, because consoles have reset buttons.
"The polygon count of the game wasn't all that great, suggesting that the Wii approach of gameplay-over-graphics may continue to win out even in the 24th century. The episode also implies in the future video games actually will be bad for you."
Haha, nice one ^^
Lonewolf_Fenrir
I always have to giggle whenever I think of how in Star Trek money no longer exists.
Anybody with even a cursory understanding of all the functions that the monetary price system carries out in a working economy would do the same.
Prices & Production by Fredrich Von Hayek for those who are interested.
slim934
@takaides: Actually in The Matrix storyline they only have an estimate of when it takes place, which is about 100 years after the end of the 20th century.
Dresan
AHHAHAHAA lame
movie was great
Jayzilla
@4nonymo: plot included. dont get me wrong i liked next gen. but someone was always getting stuck in the holodeck...
abort_user
Was that Ashley Judd?
blackfox601
I remember that was the episode with Ashley Judd in it... And so the crush began.
Dayvan Cowboy
@Lyuse:
Remember, a Holodeck can actually kill you if the safetys are off.
so its safer to stick to Video games.
PowerFeed
@Helba:
Obama Noonian Singh!
Mike Capley
@W10002:
Ha a real gamer can beat it without any cheats!
Just warp in, blast the Koba, since its likely a Klingon Decoy, pivot at warp 2 and GTFOT.
PowerFeed
@der13manner:
Yeah I remember that! Of course, it technically didn't strike me as a video game perse but more of a physical manipulation of matter type of thing, otherwise I would have brought up the water billiards table from Star Trek V.
Mike Capley
@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: My wife has different colored eyes. It'll have to do until I buy a holodeck.
Yertle8
It's weird, because that episode is on today on SPACE........
PowerFeed
IIRC in The Search for Spock when Bones is in that bar tying to charter a flight to Genesis, They flash a scene of 2 people playing a wireframe prop plane dogfighting game. Not exactly the best graphics, but whatever.
Drew Aydelott
@Kensukevic: Holy shit, way to nonchalantly come up with one of the best "nextbox" names I've ever heard!
Though now I must punch you in the throat for lumping the horrible DSN with Voyager.
As long as Will Wheaton's not giving a speech on it, I'm happy.
@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: There's more than one holodeck dude...
@Lyuse: Who needs anything when you have a holodeck?
Please note I restrained myself from making a certain typo in my previous sentence. Humanity can thank me later, at the bar.
@Mike Capley: Also, in the Generations series there is a competitive puzzle game that was played by wiggling your fingers to move objects to take over a 3D space, if I recall correctly. Data was facing off against some alien master.
der13manner
@Outi: It's too late. Both Sony and Microsoft have sent patents for motion control
Shin-san
Indeed, one of the most popular Holo Simulators must be a 90's Living Room, with a Snes plugged into a TV.
PaxtonAstypalaea
@BallPtPenTheif: Didn't the matrix take place closer to the year 3000 where as the star trek franchise took place in the 24th century (year 2300)?
takaides
@Helba: What if I had the keys to said door. Can I join?
I saw Star Trek and I'm not too worried about there not being games in it. After all, Starfleet is like the military, and during a conflict with a villain from the future who can destroy a planet, theres not a lot of down time for GameBoyReallyAdvanced.
I'm sure Scotty and Checkov are gamers though, just a hunch...
Zac Shipley
HA! OMG, I remember that episode! SO long ago!! Wow, that looks so cheesy now!
ZeonChar
"Virtual Reality?" I swear, that was "the" buzzword and, by far, the largest empty promise of the nineties.
Gamescook
The new Star Trek features a game! The Kobayashi Maru is the cheapest game ever made. The only way to win it is to re-program it by typing in the Konami Code!
Read Charles Stross' novel "Halting State." That's gaming in 20 years.
Stormwaltz
@Orionz Dream:
The Holo deck is the ultimate game, nuff said.
Ninty, Sony and Microsoft: Take notes.
I prefer what Red Dwarf has to say about the future of videogames. Essentially, much like the holodeck, but far, far less elegant.
@Altersparck: You'll have nothing and you'll like it!
@pukellunkett: He was merely being deactivated by a crew member who was affected.
It seems obvious to me that we are all living in a giant virtual reality video game anyway! It's the only way to make sense of the universe and reality, IMHO. "To an artificial mind all reality is virtual. How do they know that the real world isn't just another simulation? How do you?"
SutapaHornet
What about that game Data played with that saggy-faced dude where they put the controllers on their fingers? Everybody was watching in Ten Foward.
You missed one, methinks.
@icepick314: The scary thing about that kind of technology is that if you really want to be serious about it you have to basically reroute motor control and sensory input away from the CNS and into the game interface. That means letting the game's interface override your entire body. That seems way too dangerous regardless of tech level. Of course, I guess if you live in a Ghost in the Shell world where full body prosthesis is commonplace, that kind of neural interface might be within bounds.
Foggen
No!
I'm so sick of all these gadgets and motion controls! I don't want video games to develop even further in the Wii-direction! I don't want to have to dance around like a retard in some holo-closet in order to play a video game in the 24th century!
BRING BACK THE CLASSIC SETTING WHERE GAMES ARE PLAYED WITH A GAMEPAD WHILE SITTING IN FRONT OF THE TV!
i remember that episode. it was pretty good. Imagine if video games really caused that kind of emotional bliss? man...
On the next exciting episode of DragonBall Z!
Sorry, it just made me want to say it.
Winterbringer
Are you guys kidding, there won't be time for video games because you live it day to day by exploring new world and new civilizations! It's like Lost in Space without the lost part.
@Mike Capley: go here watch the first part for some super techonobabble. sorry cant embed
+ Watch video
starwind-hawking
@Black-Dog-Howls: Save your tears / For the day / When our pain is far behind......
@Helba: *faster
@BallPtPenTheif: even with tesla's work, land lines will always be more efficient, and therefore fsater.
@Lyuse: this
@pukellunkett: That's because he'd just been switched off. It wasn't the game.
Improbable
You know, it's kind of funny even though the time frames are entirely different, but the progression of modern technology and order of events seems to be following Ghost in the Shell closer than the projected time line of Star Trek. Right down to prosthetic experiments, global economic crisis, etc.
Let's just hope the States doesn't become Imperial America and Nuclear WW3 doesn't happen.
Black-Dog-Howls
@Mokka: Invented is still the correct term, no one has found out a way to make an actual holodeck so it has not yet been invented. You are thinking more along the lines of envision, someone has thought about the idea, but not the intricacies of how it works.
Pyro Jack Frost
@kobeashi: The chick in red is Ensign Robin Lefler, played by a young Ashley Judd. :)
Who's to say that all of the events that take place in the star trek series is not actually a giant MMO that plays out on future consoles in a more mediocre future. Star Trek being played on the X-Box 2600 Revolution, The Next generation playing out on the PlayStation XXI, and Deep Space nine, voyager, all the others no-one cares about on the Nintendo Wiizle HD.
Kensukevic
@Altersparck: Shut Up Wesley!
@Mike Capley:
Huh, at :21 that little bitch boy says "Let go of me!" When he clearly should have said "Let me go!"
Odd.
@Mike Capley: Hmmmm, he didn't seem to be doing a whole lot of rescuing at :11 in that video.
Quite the opposite really.
Yeah, back then it was all about long scenes of technobabble dialogue, soap operah melodrama and subpar CG crap ;P
Mike Capley
@icepick314:
Pfftt... the matrix..
it's the future and they still have to run a land line into the back of your skull. what, no wifi?
I remember that episode! I thought the chick in the red was uber hawt :P Fortunately, I was quite a bit younger at the time. lol. Ahhh...the days when Star Trek wasn't all about the fancy cg crap...
kobeashi
It didn't affect Data, if you're speaking of the headsets. He was the one that rescued the crew by shining a flashlight in their faces ;P
Mike Capley
watched the movie last night, they still played on a training simulator. they did cool stuff to it. i wont spoil much...
bottom line, they had flight simulators. with full control console emulation and replicated the environment of a bridge. it did lack force feedback.
Lachette
@nonpareil: Isn't it more like developed than invented? Since they are using the idea already for a few TV series.
Mokka
pfft...holodecks...
it's the advanced future and they can't input information directly into the brain ala The Matrix?
@nonpareil:
HEY! Stay in line!
Holodeck + Yuna + locked door == win.
Jack Thompsons great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandson would have a field day with this. Finally, proof that video games are bad for you.
Also, it's strange that it affected Data.
In Star Trek 3: The Search For Spock, the bar scene where the Federation secret service guy arrests McCoy, two aliens are seen playing a byplane fighter hologram game that used, if memory serves, vectorlike graphics.
Mike Capley
The day the Holodeck, or anything like it is invented, will mark the end of civilization as we know it.
And I'll be first in line to wave goodbye.
If the future involves Wesley Crusher, then I want no part of it!
A holo deck is a teenage boys wet dream.... Hell im 30 and would to have it.
WTF they were playing a virtualboy 2.
Who needs games when you have a holodeck
Lyuse
@Lachette: Yeh that part was both awesome and hilarious.
@Poison:
Why are you being so mean to whil wheaton? whil wheaton seems like a pretty nice guy.
@Lightbunny: hilarious... and true!! :D
@Billkwando bought his tickets for Hyde's US tour:
It was a kickass variation of chess. Till this day I want to play it.
superfrogsavestokyo
@Improbable: Agreed! The affected Dr. Crusher switched Data off when they realize that he would be immune to the game.
I think. (Haven't seen the episode in awhile. It's weird seeing a younger Ashley Judd that episode.)
superfrogsavestokyo
Actually there are tons of "video games" on star trek, but much like the wii, they blurr the line between game and actual sport.
First off, you must remember that EVERY game played in the holodeck is technically a video game. You have episodes where the crew play around in the worlds of Dick Tracey (name was changed for copyright issues) sherlock holmes, the old west and ect... They are all playing a game, it's just totally emmersive.
On top of that, there are several episdoes in which technology has enhanced traditional sports, like hand-ball and fencing. The reason we don't see many video games on the series is that the captain is a french-man and an old frenchman at that. So he's pretty much as dull as hell. The rest of the crew consists of a blind engineer, a first officer that doesn't have any interest in anything other than women, a klingon (who btw plays some very f-ed up combat simulations) an anroid and a uber dork (wesley). So who exactly is supposed to be in the right demo on the ship to play games?
HowardC
@Lyuse: If DS9 was any indication, you wouldn't need a girl/boyfriend either.
Guys are you joking me...of course there's game in the future. Did you not see the playstation 9 commercial. It's mind linked and everything.
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Thai Tea
Graphics suck in the future! I mean the holodeck can recreate worlds that look like real life, but the game looks like 1984 CG?
@abort_user: TNG actually only had 5 episodes. They just swapped around the characters and settings a bit.
-Transporter malfunction
-Holodeck malfunction
-Hostile aliens
-Misunderstood aliens
-Riker bangs an alien
Haha, a while back there was that video of the new controller technology that lets you move in game objects with y our mind - the first thing i saw when i saw that was this episode of star trek xD
diagorus
@slim934:
Money does exist, its just not very useful to the federation, especially when you have replicators, that can take matter any matter, and rearrange its molecular structure to be whatever it is you want. It is used in trade with other races though.
diagorus
@Orionz Dream: Ha! That's what I was thinking, too.
Paul_Is_Drunk
@4nonymo: The Xbox has to increase by increments of 360 so 2520 or 3600.
Plus if the Xbox is only at 3600 its only in its 0th generation and playstation is already in its 21st... lame Microsoft... very LAME.
omgCRAZY
@Orionz Dream: Wiirtual boy.
@abort_user: Holodeck RROD'd?
Holodecks sound great... until you turn them off*.
It didn't make it on screen, but you just know there was some Ferangi jizz-mopper working at Quarks 26 hours a day.
*Think Star Trek VI when they turned on the gravity.
@Lyuse: hell yes we need holodeck old school Resident Evil
The holodeck IS a videogame. It IS a movie etc.
@Kensukevic: Xbox being named "Revolution" probably won't happen, since that's reserved by Nintendo for the Wii (it's not just the codename, it's also the name of the developer hardware kit).
@superfrogsavestokyo:
Stratagema!
More like Go, I'd say. Or if you want to get real nerdy, kind of like Taito's "Qix", an 80's gem of an arcade game.
Matthew Weflen
Funny thing is I just watched this episode today on the Space Network too...
Blind_3
@Mike Capley: Additionally, in Star Trek 1, Decker tried to show the alien probe what was supposed to be Illea's favorite game in life, in the Enterprise's Rec Room which, at least according to Mr. Scotty's Guide to the Enterprise, was supposed to have been filled with various automated games of the future. :p
GenRedLeader
@Ventus: why are you emphasizing the h so much?
@Altersparck: I liked Wesley. He was one of my favourite characters.
@takaides:
Weren't there thousands of cyclical destructions of the 20th century Matrix? The neo phenomenon predictably occurred thousands of times placing the time period far past the 24th century.
A video game console that shoots little red laser beams into my eyes? Where/when can I pre-order!?!?!
kiddoblivion