What Letters And Numbers Has Kojima Announced So Far?
Kojima Productions has been launching a seemingly endless stream of countdown clocks for an upcoming title. Ungh. Still! They seem to be offering clues. Let’s recap.
To date, these letters have appeared on the Kojima “Next” site:
“S” (or number “5″)
“R”
“P”
“E”
“C”
“@” (or a lowercase “e”)
“O” (or number “0″)
The following numbers have appeared:
“5″ (or “S”)
“3″
“6″
“0″ (or letter “O”)
Kotaku AU Note: “@ 360 PRES C”? Hmm.
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I don't really are what it is; I'm buying it!
I only wish other game makers could work as fast as Kojima! The guys a machine! He's already fast a work on his second epic PS3 game, and Square Enix is still working on their first game (...don't know if it'll be epic). I can't wait for E3 to come rolling around.
American_N_Japan
It could be OREO .. too
ye0073
Well, what else? His next game will be multiplatform, for the PS3, 360 and PC.
digitalmorphine
@lordofsword: With the amount of people saying "I hate these stupid attention whoring clocks" I think its quite safe to say this sort of thing is annoying more people then anything else. Announce it and be done Kojima.
Letters spell "Corpse"
Maybe this franchise is dead.
Who done a better PR?
Nintendo vs Kojima
ye0073
@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Nice!...yeah it'll probably mean nothing but speculating is fun!
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: hahaha, I love how they edit old ocelot into there.
@Sonira - I am old news.:
The MG font doesn't differentiate letters from numbers, it's all uniform (a 5 looks no different from an S and a 9 looks no different from a lowercase G).
@excel_excel: nope, because the 360 actually rrods.
casmith07
Psh, Kojima can do whatever he wants with his website as long as his studio keeps spewing out awesome.
Bring on the countdowns!
The Amazing Exploding-Man
@excel_excel:
Ghostbusters isn't out yet, so I have no clue whether it handles wel at all.
Mirrors Edge makes use of the Unreal Engine and it was optimized on PS3 to run well on both consoles. However Unreal is middleware that's pretty much been created with multiple consoles and configurations in mind, so it's something completely different from the stuff KP uses on Metal Gear, it's hardware-specific.
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There also appear to be letters falling in the rain sometimes, and/or falling apart?
Also you can advance the counter by messing with this url.
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/frame.swf?lmt01=20090518100000&lmt02=20090522100000&lmt03=20090522100000&lmt04=20090522100000&lmt05=20090530008000
and changing the numbers after lmt05 to be a date and time closer to now (the above makes it about 10 hours to go). But of course it does nothing except advance the countdown timer…
I like being teased, but its taking a bit long unlike Blizzarda approach on Diablo III anouncement.
Paincake
Its Metal Gear Solid for DS. Touchan gaems.
Altima NEO
@Bialia: Nah I'm not completely ruling out the possibility of Gray Fox only due to the eye but it does add credibility to the theory that it isn't.
But the robotic jaw part doesn't mean anything since Raiden didn't have it till MGS4.
@Bialia: Awesome and very interesting.
So it's one of 3 or 4 things as far as I can tell..
1) Who: It's RAIDEN, straight up. No trickery- Konami screwed with his eyes some and put him back into a Cyborg suit
Timeline: has to be Post-MGS2, Pre-MGS4 (or during the events of MGS4).
2) Who: It's GRAY FOX. The only evidence against this is a) he was crushed by Metal Gear Rex, b) the eye patch is covering the wrong eye.
Soem evidence that supports this, is that since he was indeed crushed by Metal Gear rex, perhaps that is why half his head is cyborg'd. (note the barcode). The hair matches (also with Raiden and Olga however) and the eye color matches.
Timeline: Must be post MGS1. Assuming he survived.. AGAIN... it would HAVE to occur after MGS1, as this technology was also used in Raiden's Cyborg get-up.
3)It's OLGA GURLUKOVICH: Very feminine eyes and the hair would match assuming she let it grow. However, considering she died in MGS2, she would have had to have been restructured (fake part of her head with bolts and barcode) since her brains were blown out by Solidus.
Timeline: Any time after MGS2.
4) Who: It's SUNNY: Sunny is all growed up- feminine features and got her eyebrows did. Same features as mom. Can she be a clone of Naked Snake as well? Was she part of Les Enfant Terribles? Who is her father? (The Patriots?) Sunny's possiblity brings up more questions than answers...
She's a closet computer nerd that hangs out with Hal and at the end of MGS4 lived happily ever after.. what would she be doing in a cyborg suit? She isn't fit for combat and thus- it's hard for me to say she's Big Boss' clone- I'm ruling this one out.
Timeline: If for some reason it is her, this would have to occur after the events of MGS4 (but since Big Boss is now Dead dead... why his image as well?)
5) Who: UNKNOWN - Brand new unknown character..
Timeline: Who knows?
Dammit, I killed the thread.
*goes away to cry alone*
Bialia
After he has used up all the alphabets and numbers, it will start with hiragana and katakana, ha ha ha.
jellyfish
Same here I am not messing with the clock ill just wait til E3(plz let it be another MGS)
Adrian Jackson
@Suzaku: yeah, I don't think you can get any more obvious than that.
Still, I think there is something, of some sort, coming out on the 360 from Konami.
@BlackVanguard: This.
Spiffyness
@Aurongel:
Holy crap!
C3P0
Blah8
ok ok ok one more thing-
This guy's outfit (you can see his shoulders) is the right colour to be Gray Fox as well. [www.virginmedia.com]
Oh my god, I'm experiencing such nerd joy.
Bialia
-___-"
Corpse @ 5360?
No idea what it means...
@DigitalHero: Well, we know exactly what it's *NOT*.
Zone of the Enders 3.
Therefore, I am angry. >:-[
@Suzaku: @Gantz:
Your Trusted Friend in Science.:
The eye thing doesn't potentially rule out this being Gray Fox, if that's what you guys are saying (forgive me if I misunderstand)- this Raiden looking guy has his right eye concealed.
Also, check out this old concept art of Gray Fox with an open face plate:
[en.wikipedia.org]
Bialia
@Rinaldus: Being in PR for a certain publisher I can tell you that this is exactly what they want - publicity and for the fans to talk about it! I personally am a fan, it's hard not to get excited when you see something counting down, and talking amongst yourself as to what it may be.
ALTHOUGH I will admit that Konami seem to have taken it a bit too far this time, one countdown is more than enough lol.
There's always that old saying, any publicity is good publicity!
@Aurongel: Now all we need is "W" and "i" and all the console fanboys will be happy.
nightwheel
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.:
Oh wow, Gantz. Now I'm not so sure it is Raiden either.
Here's another view- [tech2.in.com] - quite different indeed.
Bialia
@Suzaku: I agree with your point about the eye, however Raiden wasn't always a cyborg.
@new_age_soldier: Clearly?
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Notice how it's featured on Famitsu PSP+PS3, not Famitsu Xbox 360?
Suzaku
Not sure if it's been said but the E could easily be an M as we seen before when Kojima teased Snake Eater. Did someone mention theres a picture of Big Boss that appears too?
@Zombonk: If it's for 360, why was it featured in Famitsu PSP+PS3?
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Suzaku
For the people who want to jump at the 360 thing, I'd like to just point out this magazine rack:
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MG on Famitsu PSP+PS3. Famitsu Xbox 360 gets Bionic Commando.
Suzaku
@excel_excel: The bigger thing was Gray Fox was blind in the RIGHT eye, with a white pupil and everything.
And he didn't have a cybernetic jaw or what's clearly a more detailed version of Raiden's armor.
Suzaku
@new_age_soldier:
Where do you get that its "clearly" coming to the 360? Yea it will be a great game on the 360..not as good...but there is no clearly about anything at this point
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: (I'm not sure if you meant it but both are the same photo.. I believe)
I agree with you, and yeah no doubt the relation is a very real possibility.
And I also agree that, the more I read/research/see, the more I think it probably isn't raiden. I am still hesitant to call it Gray Fox though. I actually just cooked up a theory that it COULD be Olga, since it looks like the top and left portion of the head has been replicated with artificial parts (the two screws and the barcode are indicative of this). Considering she was murdered with a bullet to the head, perhaps they were able to salvage her body, and via some nanomachine magic, they were able to at least resurrect her and get her fighting again.
Plus that eye and her eyebrows are way too feminine. I don't think Raiden even has that feminine of features.
@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Don't forget that the mask may have an origin... maybe a reference to a culture or country?
Nevermind that. As for the letters and numbers, Kojima has played around with those before. [metalgear.wikia.com]
Notice 'VRAM 01K'=Kio Marv
SPECIAL MGS 5 36O
If this MGS W/e it is, comes to 360 (Which looks like it clearly is at this pont) U 360 only owners will get to enjoy one epic game.
new_age_soldier
Uhhhn....
MGS5...for the PS360!?! *slapped*
No seriously that's all I got.
NekuSakuraba
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: Dammit I meant...
[cache.gawker.com] vs [ps3media.ign.com]
(all this jumping around through tabs is getting complex...)
@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Well, the mask -did- come into view only because of the countdown page and the damaged mask fits surprisingly well over the cyborg.
Obviously all we have is theory currently but the direct relation is atleast possible.
As for the identity of the cyborg, i feel there is a lot of evidence backing up that it isn't Raiden as opposed to a heavily modified Raiden. (eye color and visual differences)
[cache.gawker.com] vs [cache.gawker.com]
@spannu:
Confirmed by Kojima none the less!
Something @ 360 (referring to their press conference, probably). Obviously. What? I have no idea. Get off my back.
bangbangblah
ok first I want to say that anyone who thinks that 'e' is an '@' is stupid...I buy the kanji before I would an "at" symbol...you people are just making it to much.
I get the 360 side of things too..but its not going to be anything exclusive..maybe MGO which is possible given the fact that you need to make a whole new id just for Konamis servers.
Secondly I havent seen anyone say anything about RP being Rating Pending? Or assume the that everything besides the obvious numbers are letters and you get a complete word C O R P S E
left over you get 'e 3' and the number 6
It could even be Corps (rememeber the BB Corps?) then you left with 'e 3 E 6'
Countdown is still going...and the face is Raiden...only someone who has never seen the games could honestly think it was someone else
@casmith07:
And the PS3 is actually 600.
I've been entertaining the idea for a while, but there seem to be a few clues that point to the idea of a MGS4 side story, or a MGS-based set of side stories. Gambia just gave another clue by pointing out that the letters can spell out "Corpse". The Raiden picture looks more or less identical of the MGS4 version, and you could probably say that the scenery is of a wilderness.
Of course, the strange, youthful look of Big Boss shows that this isn't everything in the picture...
It would be nicce if Konami / Kojima would give us a definite date as to when these countdowns will end. It's just getting stupid now having a countdown to a countdown to an inevitable countdown of an actual announcement...
I also saw a picture of Snake flash up on the right-hand side, and later a picture of the unknown white-haired character on the left (As depicted by Kotaku elsewhere)
Do these letters / numbers appear at random?
I watched the countdown for just over ten minutes (Between 90:30:xx and 90:18:xx), and I extracted the following:
3, R, E, S/5, e, O/0, P, C, 6 - And then the sequence repeated, albeit randomly starting with 3 and then 6 and so on...
There doesn't seem to be much to go on at this point though. I've noticed that the R and the E are capitalised, whereas the other letters can be either capitals or lower case - With the exception of 'e' which is clearly lower case. 3 is clearly the number, but 'S' and 'O' could quite easily be a '5' and Zero (As pointed out)
Seeing how they had the Raiden face and a 5 and a 360 I'm guessing MGS 5 for the 360 that explores what Raiden does between MGS 2 and MGS4. That'd be alright I guess.
@Mike Newlad: Sprockets?
Bialia
@Slapmaster5000: Yeah, you've got a point. I won't discredit the idea- but who the hell knows, right? The fact that it probably ISN'T Raiden is enough of a mystery in and of itself. To add on top of that trying to make sense of a mask that only just popped up and has never been seen or heard of anywhere before.. well, that's 100% theory and speculation.
@snaldo008: 3 yrods?
Raziel
even if it's multiplat, the ps3 version is the superior one.. i mean, the 360 does not have motion-control so how the hell can i do the best part of mgs4 on it - making rosemary's jugs go bouncing?
but i forgot, the 360 cannot run mgs4 graphics.. so this one is a ps3 exclusive for sure
the_answer
@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Let's not assume ANYTHING, this is Kojima after all.
@excel_excel:
I'm only reluctant to see that as a connection because of the URLs, one is KojimaProductions.com/next or something, and the other is kojimaproductions.com/mask, meaning to me that they are different projects. Who knows thought, I'm just throwing shit out there.
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