Blame WoW For Starcraft II’s Late, Late Release
Blizzard’s Starcraft was released in 1998. It’s sequel, Starcraft II, won’t be out until at least 2009. Why the hold-up? Blame World of Warcraft.
Rob Pardo has told Eurogamer that development on Starcraft II began in 2003, and there’s been a playable build since 2005. But then along came World of Warcraft.
One of the reasons that StarCraft II had some delays very early on in development is because a fair amount of the design team went onto World of Warcraft for a year to really help finish that game off.
They had a lot of really great experience to bring, with their knowledge of how they approached the map editor problems, how they dealt with balancing – which we could then leverage into class balancing.
So to anyone wondering why Starcraft II looks so “old fashioned” for a 2009 game, there you go.
WOW held up StarCraft II for a year [Eurogamer]
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@WiNg0o: And my Tac launcher!
I hope every WoW player feels shitty now.
@Hiero: MoM.
IoWn3rU
I think people don't care. They just want to play the damn game already.
@Hypernetic: Yeah I totally agree with you man. I am actually straight edge so I don't drink alcohol but I too believe its fine if you don't overdo it.
I think your comment would have made a better impression on az060693.
@holmcross: Really good ignorant stereotype here. WoW is 'easy' in the sense that you don't have to be good to reach the level cap, but there are definitely people who are skilled at the game. Also I am pretty sure I could kick your ass at Halo :P
@Comban: The star wars project.
@Ramistat: Ahahaha.
The funny part is that you totally don't see the hypocrisy.
@ankhenaten: I wasn't supporting the blaming of Blizzard, simply pointing out a fact of human nature.
@TravisTouchdown: Well i still enjoy playing the original. so i'm sure for me at least it will hit all the right buttons.
FUCKING WOW KILLED MYU FAMILTY OR SOMETHING
@Ikiat:
And my AXATAX! That's right, axe ... attacks!
AXATAX
@YoshiTron: I'm just sulky that this timeless game - when BN statistics show there are 20k players in this moment, NOT EVEN ONE comes for match-making.
@WiNg0o: Here f$#%ing here, man. Must we all suffer for that blasted games success? I am a gamer dammit! Plz let me have my SC2. Plz.
@Blore07: *Attempts to comment* "You must construct additional pylons!"
@WiNg0o: hey, wut if I liek world of warcrafts?
@DaveKap: Everything in moderation, if you let anything consume your entire life it can ruin it. I've been a long player of WoW from day one and it has yet to ruin my life or that of my family. You can't blame a game for someone not knowing when to call it a day and get some sleep,food, or spending time with loved ones.
Some folks have more addictive personalities then others and these folks tend to transfer addictions from one thing to another if not WoW then it would be something else.
I just get tierd of seeing people scapegoating something like a game for a problem they need to learn to deal with themselves but, I guess its the way this world is these day its easier to blame someone or something else for your problems then to take responsibility.
Befitzero
@Theoutlet says about Square Enix, I think is more a match to blizzard. Which is not a bad thing, really. Apart from the sitting on thumbs. On both game designer sides.
And I'm sorry you missed out on Diablo 2.
@Theoutlet: It's done when it's done was the motto of DNF. That turned out great for "best track record on the planet", didn't it =).
@Theoutlet: former CIA agent? =p
@IoWn3rU: WoW.
@WiNg0o:
*Nuclear Missle Ready.*
Ghost here. Awaitin' orders.
Neer'mo
@The Forgetful Brain: People are going to expect the same level of completedness out of SCII as the original. The Starcraft now is the result of a decade of fine tuning. It's hard to live up to that when the game just launches.
Leanid
@Kyolux feels abused by Prototype's cheapness!: MMORPGs needed to include an easy-mode if it wanted to achieve mainstream success. And by mainstream I mean numbers approaching the console industry.
Leanid
@Oldboy26: I remember the launch numbers during it's first month not being particularly high. WoW wasn't destined to be a huge success like a lot of people tend to think of it now.
Leanid
@az060693:
WoW is a game for people who aren't good at games.
holmcross
@somarix: so you depend people still being on battlenet in order for Starcraft to have a fan base?? a fan base doesn't mean people will still be playing it online, but the fact that they're still out there. I've played it for over 10 years and as soon as SC2 comes out I'll be playing it and i rarely use battlenet. I'm sure people have moved on to different games while they are waiting for it to come out.
Every WoW player who has reached 70 or 80 should quit. You beat the game, all the expansion packs and raids add to the game is more time you have to pay a subscription for.
sonicon
@polezo:
And my U-238 shells.
@DarkSonic999:
...and my Plasma sword!
HALO-32
@1ncorporated: AND MY YAMATO CANNON!!!!! (size DOES matter!!)
@Theoutlet: what was he working on?
Comban
@ankhenaten: Shouldn't be too hard, MMO's aren't purely defined by the current theme park model anymore. Hopefully they do something genuinely interesting and try to build an actual sandboxer that rewards player interaction, but I won't be holding my breath. Theme parks fit Blizzard's design philosophy of absolute dev control perfectly, and they're terrified of losing their family-friendly reputation, so I'd bet on WoW In Space before anything else.
@ankhenaten:
I blame Dana Carvey
Hypernetic
@Hypernetic:
BTW, I have played SC2. I am not just making stuff up based on screens or articles. I played it for quite a good amount of time at Blizzcon, along with Diablo 3. Starcraft has never been my cup of tea really, for whatever reason, but Diablo 3 was seriously the coolest game I've ever played in my life. It was insanely detailed and polished for a game so early in development.
Hypernetic
@Omnimon:
There are a lot of changes to the game in areas such as units, abilities, graphics(obviously), etc, but they kept the core gameplay the same for a reason.
Starcraft has a reputation for being the "perfect" RTS game. I think the cliches say it best "you can't improve upon perfection" or "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". The criticism they might get for lack of innovation is NOTHING compared to the pure shit storm that would ensue if they completely redid the core game from scratch.
You also have to remember that SC1 has one of the biggest professional followings of any game in the world. There are tens of thousands of people who play SC1 professionally, it's even televised and/or played in live arenas in some countries. Blizzard cares very much about these scenes, they even host their own worldwide invitationals each year. Changing how SC plays could jeopardize their reign over pro gaming.
Hypernetic
canceled my account. Screw WoW.
@Mokon:
So it delayed it by a year at most is what they are saying here. I'm pretty sure everyone already knew this anyway.
I'm also fairly certain that nobody cares. Most, if not all, starcraft fans think the original is pure perfection which cannot be topped. So why would they be mad about SCII taking a long time to be made?
Hypernetic
@Refused:
I say the same thing about WoW that I say about alcohol. Simply because someone becomes an alcoholic and ruins their life so they can be drunk all day does NOT make alcohol bad by itself.
Most people drink beer, wine, and liquor and never have a problem. In fact, it can even be healthy in moderation.
The same is true for WoW. Yes, there are idiots who quit their jobs and divorce their wives/abandon their children all to play WoW. Is that Blizzard's fault? Fuck no. Stop being stupid.
Hypernetic
I would say the "old fashioned looking" part would be good- One of the selling points for starcraft nowadays is that it'll basically run on a toaster. So if the graphics are based on a 2005 or so benchmark, that will allow it run better on more machines. IE, it won't have the "crysis effect" to where only a beast of a machine will run it properly.
@Omnimon: I LOVE RAINBOWS!!!
darknessgp
@sunpop: There is much speculation over the next MMO project from Blizzard and how they might handle the transition of the player base. They don't want to directly compete against themselves do they?
ankhenaten
@undefined:
AND MY AXE!!!!!
Oh sorry you seem a little over encumbered. Here check this out, its a new strap from the makers of the "Tiddy Bear" seat belt comforter, as seen on TV. Now you can secure your weapons comfortably with a cute touch. It's great for kids too.
*safely secures 6th axe to Wing0o*
@Insert clever moniker here: I'm sure you're not. The people who are harmed by something are always the loudest, even if they are in the minority, the vast minority.
ankhenaten
@icanryme2002: You can never have too many axes - somebody's gotta chop the firewood.
@Theoutlet: Still doesn't make it okay to blame the company or the product. If we really cared about peoples health, cigraettes and alcohol would be illegal. We wouldn't live in a free society, we would live in a dictatorship ruled by the moral minority.
If you blame gambling for your gambling addiction you are never going to be free from the addictive tendancy. Just like if you blame WoW for your addictive tendancies to gaming. The same people who play WoW for hours upon hours and waste their lives away could potentially be grinding out yet another achievement or trophy in some other game. Believe me, blaming your poor decision making on a game that you are quasi-"addicted" to does not make it go away. If you push that game aside you will fall down another "addiction" trap, and it will happen repeatedly until you wake up and take some responsibility.
The only reason I would care whether you believe me or not is that it might help you and/or your friends deal with the roots of the problem rather than go through the painful cycle I endured in my younger days with a different game.
So preach on and on about the fault of the game and its designers, but you are only fueling the recession of personal responsibility by doing so.
ankhenaten
Oh World of Warcraft, is there nothing you can't screw up?
@DarkSonic999: AND MY ASS
Well Wow had a good run never thought I would say this but it must die, not because I like starcraft but simply because blizz is intent on ruining Wow anyway.
Also who needs warcraft when you got Aion coming out in September?
STILL WAITING ON NEWS FOR A WARCRAFT SEQUEL, BLIZZARD
Austin Stephen
@Sniper_Zegai!! >:D
I call bullshit. Everyone wanted a sequel to Starcraft 2 a long time ago. What did Blizzard make instead? Warcraft 3. Then they tried to make Starcraft: Ghost. Then they made World of Warcraft. That's three games that made it into the pipeline before Starcraft 2.
noelix
@TravisTouchdown: What a great statement!
Eviltim
@WiNg0o:
And my photon cannons... so I wont be able to follow you around but I'll hold the fort down
SaanZ
@az060693: Ignorance at its finest. WoW is a really well made, fun and top notch game.
I am very sorry that your brother has issues with how much he plays but that really doesn't detract from the game it is.
@RedLinkJ:
3 versions of starcraft 2, taking so long to release starcraft 2, taking so long to release Diablo 3, never releasing Starcraft: Ghost,
Not making WORLD OF STARCRAFT... as a multiplayer action game... not a MMORPG
SaanZ
@DarkSonic999: And my AXE body spray!
No wait, I really don't care when it comes out since I'll probably be broke by that time.
@Crawl to China: And New Super Mario Bros Wii looks like Super Mario Bros.
People just like to complain about Blizzard games. They change the art direction up too much (Diablo III?) and they get lambasted. They change the art direction too little (SC II) and the whiners are out en masse.
People just need to learn to chill and wait for the games to come out before passing judgment.
@ShoopDaBoofs:
I don't work for Barnes & Noble, and it wasn't a Barnes & Noble Catalogue. You can check Amazon, Coles, Chapters, B&N, whatever, they all say the same. Book Catalogues detail future books many many months in advance.
@Markarian: Axe..?
@WiNg0o: And my
@DeLoRtEd1: The last thing I would consider a reputable source is from a Barnes & Noble Publisher Catalog. Any game retailer would find out the release date for this long before a book store's catalog.
ShoopDaBoofs
@Maverickly: What about a vespene gas flavor? Or better yet, Firebat Flame Fuel! :D
@WiNg0o: AND MY AXE
You know the hypothetical question "If sent back in time to Nazi Germany, would you kill hitler?" - that pales in comparison to if I would destroy WOW.
MrFatalistic
@DarkSonic999: And my gauss rifle.
Fwiffo
@Omnimon: which is 11 years old...
@icanryme2002: WHY DON'T I NEED TWO AXES?!
@Stunt_Duck: Quote: "...a fair amount of the design team went onto World of Warcraft for a year to really help finish that game off..."
...says nothing about them *working* on the game per se... I suspect they've been hard at work finishing off their own level 80s... ;^P
(j/k)
TL;DR - Starcraft 2 comes out March 2010
@YoshiTron: what fanbase? Those 20,000 players that NEVER use battlenet for matches anymore? You can almost hear the crickets there.
I've already emailed Kotaku about this but they seem to ignore me. Anyway I'll just comment here if anyone cares to hear me out:
I'm very certain Starcraft 2 is to be released March 2010 - here's why.
I work at a Book Store. Yes, I sell books and for the most part I am basically a literate cashier, but I also process publisher catalogues that my manager goes through to order new books coming out or just old books now being re-released in paperback / mass market. Anyway, there was a catalogue with Sci-Fi, which included a new media tie-in book about Starcraft 2. Here's the link to it:
[search.barnesandnoble.com]
The blurb on my publisher catalogue said:
"What terror can haunt a ghost? Coinciding with the release of StarCraft II- the eagerly anticipated sequel to Blizzard Entertainment's top-selling science-fiction
real-time strategy game--Nova, an elite stealth operative, embarks on a heart-stopping mission that pits her against her own kind and her tragic, hidden past."
The blurb on the previous link says something to the same effect as the printed one. The thing you need to realize is that the media tie-in book will release at the same time as Starcraft 2. Barnes and Noble have it dated at March 2010.
Bitches.
@icanryme2002: AND MY AXE!
Noah Bogart
@Ubersoldat19:
Nobody knew it would be anywhere near what it has become back then...
Oldboy26
Who cares... WoW is a huge thing for Blizzard; it's why Blizzard is Blizzard today (to be quite frank about it). Starcraft II is going to be good, and I think everyone needs to appreciate that Starcraft II is probably better than it would have been without the WoW team's experience at balancing. The game would have never probably been 'fixed' if it weren't for this "balancing" for a number of a months.
Talking of which... *cough* Half-Life 2: Episode 3 *cough*
@wintersleep: why does he need two axes?
I played WoW for 2 years (I got better!) and I must say, for sheer entertainment value -- I got my money's worth. However I would rather Diablo 3 rather than Star Craft 2, but that's just me.
kneegrow
@Theoutlet: Which makes WoW a whole lot more healthier, relatively speaking of course.
Dnyde
@Theoutlet: Aww, that's so sad. I feel so bad for you and how much you're bothered that other people have different opinions than you.
Ramistat
@Theoutlet:
Visuals may be superficial by nature, but they do pretty much everything when it comes to setting the atmosphere. if RE5 looked like Fable 2, could anyone pass it off as survival horror while keeping a straight face?
Visuals are important to a game. the number of polygons (or lack thereof) is not.
it's a fine line, but one many people seem to forget exists.
sweenish
I blame WoW for Blizzard getting too comfortable in their position and losing some of their edge.
I can't wait for the inevitable "Log in to get free gear in the mail Day"
Kayonesoft
This is news, how? (apart from the fact it was admitted)
I'm betting theres a bunch of guys who knew this 3-4 years ago (well ok maybe not about having a demo in 2005).
Shame on blizzard for talking this long to admit it.
@DarkSonic999:
AND MY AXE
@Maverickly: There's a Pylon joke in here somewhere, I just can't put my finger on it....
@Sniper_Zegai: Let's step outside.
Hahaha, just like a nerd.
"I couldn't finish my paper in time because I was working on WoW."
TheTheTheTheWhat
@Stunt_Duck: to be fair? Lol.
ankhenaten
I will add this to the extensive list of things I blame WOW for.
Item #263 - Provided show material for several episodes of Oprah on video game addiction that in turn provided me with several sessions of "griefing" from my wife.
@Blore07: ... of warcraft?
ankhenaten
ha, he said "leverage"
zelan
@WiNg0o: I don't even like Starcraft, THERE, I SAID IT!
@ShoopDaBoofs: No, they do not.
Doesn't sound much like fun though, I think I'll give it a miss.
Blizzard could just put 3d graphics on StarCraft and I would be happy. A whole new game is only icing on the cake.
Patrick Hennessey
Another reason for me to hate on WoW! Damn that infernal game (
WoW)and all of it's money making prowess!
ssoltero
@NeoStarr:
I lol'ed
Being a recovering WoW addict, I always have to fight the urge to play the game again. No matter how many cooler additions they add to the game, I've stayed clean. Luckily I've been clean for the past 2 years after playing it for 3 years.
Now what's sad is that I'm going to get addicted to Starcraft II and then Diablo 3 when it comes out. Darn you Blizzard!!!!
Old Fashioned? Man, I LOVE the look of Starcraft 2.
sigma7
@TravisTouchdown: I had thought the reason it looked "old fashioned" was because it was supposed to look, y'know, like Starcraft!
@Theoutlet: *Looks around suspiciously* Am I the only person here whose life has been changed by WoW for the better?
Insert clever moniker here
@Omnimon: Haha thats what i was thinking
@Blore07:
and my level 80 priests staff ! ....oh wait
anduin1
@DarkSonic999: and you have my bow
@ShoopDaBoofs: How exactly? You can do all of those in moderation...
@Theoutlet: Definitely, but it's not like WoW was the first to rope in people. A lot of those "wives' groups" formed for EverQuest, and here's a classic article on UO:
[www.metroactive.com]
I am lucky in that I do *not* have an addictive personality when it comes to these things, it seems. I *tried* to get roped in by UO, EQ, WAR, and WoW but really did not for any. WoW was the closest but I never even got to level 50. So now I'm giving Age of Conan a try without fear.
Mokon
I remember *someone* claiming all Blizzard employees worked in separate divisions. Thank you, Kotaku, for debunking that myth. (I can rest easy knowing he's been proven wrong!)
Insert clever moniker here
What about diablo 3? I couldn't care less about Starcraft or WoW, neither game appealing to me on anything more than a visual level.
I want my clicky-clicky rainbow hack'em'up now!
moustachio
@Theoutlet:
yep.
same thing i was told before meeting those aliens the other d... nevermind.
@FreakyFavabean:
Haha, not that I kiss the ground Blizz walks on, but they generally know what quality means..
I'll stick to blaming the 'publicans, myself.
RedLinkJ
I hate WOW. Its time blizzard showed a little more appreciation for its Starcraft fan base. We've waited long enough!!!
@DarkSonic999: AND MY AXE!
Blore07
@WiNg0o: WORLD OF WARCRAAAFFFT!!!!
/shakes fist
This is old, old news... Like Starcraft 2's announcement old. And yet I see idiots getting angry over this report.
RiotControl
@catgoat: Well, if we had a single company to blame for the advent of gambling people would blame them too. The fact that WoW is addictive is undeniable and so certain people should stay away for their own health. Sadly, not many people know they have an addictive personality or refuse to admit they have a problem.
Pffft, we all know it was the PS3, with its difficult architecture that caused the delay.
Bii Nii Wii Nii Live from the Show-Me-State
@Blore07:
I suggest we form the Fellowship of Kotaku
Who's in? WiNg0o, You have my sword!
DarkSonic999
@ShoopDaBoofs: So Starcraft people helped to balance World of Warcraft and are now back to helping balance Starcraft?
I *had* hope for this game....
Good God! I really hope the designers that utterly failed at PvP balance in WoW are NOT working on Starcraft II's balancing. If they are, their FAIL will drive South Korea to obliterate Irvine, California.
@catgoat:
It's a greater threat to us than POLIO!!!!
The game doesn't really look old fashioned, just upgraded. Th graphics are better than #1, so it's fine from my standpoint. Like other guys have said, as long as the gameplay is great, since the graphics are better, it'll all be good.
i can't believe so many people are blaming wow for their friends/relatives being douchebags. it's a game, you idiots! you sound like Jack Thompson!!!
@WiNg0o: more time to save up for a comp, tobad i need way more time.....
that's okay...
i already blame WoW on everything...
teen violence...
teen pregnancy...
global warming...
Darfur crisis...
gas price...
suckass housing market...
recession...
underpowered toilet flush...
@RedLinkJ: Yeah, it's admittedly not much, now that I think about it. But when something DOES go wrong, we know what to blame!
@BuzzHonky: Other way around, SC2 team members went to help with WoW's balancing, Hence the delay.
ShoopDaBoofs
If someone is whining about this game graphics, to the gallows with them!
Or to a 24 hours nonstop replay of Brüno the movie.
@m4rkg: A larger team doesn't always equal better work. In fact, it usually means worse work.
[en.wikipedia.org]
Mokon
@QualityJeverage: The very basic principles that WoW employs in rep grinding, raid grinding, and honor grinding debunk your argument, SIR.
ShoopDaBoofs
World of Warcraft people are helping to "balance" Starcraft II? Well I *had* hope for this game....
the game has no LAN support!
SudiptiEquestridomus
WoW = worst game on earth, my little bro plays it, fucking ruined his life, piece of shit game indeed
az060693
Oh well. I'm addicted to WoW, so I'm not really that all disappointed.
The main thing is that we actually get to play Starcraft II sometime.
Dan Jobson
@FeatherNET: They don't announce it too soon. Honestly they probably show off their games at a LATER point in development than most do.
And yes they do spend all that extra time polishing or whatever you want to call it.
Still it doesn't always work out. Diablo 2's online play was a disaster at launch (turned me off on the game... permanently) and Warcraft III was pretty unbalanced at launch. Of course these issues got fixed but Blizzard ain't perfect. They're probably spending extra time on SC2 to avoid the War3 problems.
Mokon
@FeatherNET: You can't deny that their "It's done when it's done" and exceptionally long years of development lead to a company with the best track record on the planet.
If you want to talk about a company releasing information early we should talk about Square Enix and FFXIII. They released information on that game way too early and they appear to be sitting on their thumbs rather than getting anything done.
@TravisTouchdown: A phrase I wish was said more often.
metaslugx
@thetophatmonster: They should make Starcraft Game Fuel, there would be many flavors.
Zerg Extract anyone?
@The Forgetful Brain: It has to be super polished and ready to go.
If it's not, the pros (the People Who Matter) will drop this game in a second to go back to the original and SC2 will die on the vine.
Blizz has had pros hammering on this game for at least 4 years, and they are going to have a six month beta.
Mokon
@kobeashi: ZING! As a former Shaman, I know what you mean haha.
@FreakyFavabean: I blame WoW.
IoWn3rU
@Chrystolis: There are a lot of people who deal with information they're not allowed to talk about. My father was just recently able to tell me what he was working on back in the early 80s.
@Theoutlet: Well, to be fair, I think it's more of the fact that they release information too soon. Makes it look like their spending that much time polishing the game.
That's what I think anyways, and what I would do as well.
Guh, I can't stand all the WoW hate that floods these threads. I play WoW, I've got an 80, I raid, I go to College, I have a job.
It's so fucking annoying how people just assume that everyone who plays WoW is automatically a loser with a failed life. Don't blame the game if people can't control themselves. Blame the people. The rest of us enjoy the game in moderation.
QualityJeverage
@Kuwabara Kazuo: Aww, that's so sad. I feel so bad for you and how much you care about such a superficial aspect of the game.
@Unexcited Squirrel: The same could be said for coke, heroin, alcohol, etc..
@FreakyFavabean:
I blame WoW for people like Jack Thompson.
Firelance
@Chrystolis: Well, I'm sure none of them have been photographed, as they are not allowed outside, but when the game is released, I assume you'll be able to see the scars of careful lacework about their lips.
Nathan Kando
"...which we could then leverage into class balancing"
Clearly those members have left the Warcraft team...
kobeashi
@NeoStarr: Nice one lol. I remember that cheat.
@DigitalHero: This.
Blizzard is the most consistent developer in the world for a reason. It's called never pushing a product out the door until it is polished beyond all reason.
@Chrystolis: Must be hard as hell, to say the bloody least.
@CaptainCasey: Rainbows. Lots and lots of rainbows.
@DigitalHero: Yea. Blizzard actually spent millenia on the initial starcraft.
But that was delayed due to Warcraft in some light as well.
Nathan Kando
@FreakyFavabean: I blame WoW for Michael Jackson's death.
Hmm, I don't feel it looks THAT old fashioned :/
My question is...what's it like to be part of the SC2 crew, working on it since 2003 and not be able to slip a single word about it until late 2007.
@Ubersoldat19: There is no Ultimate Cash Cow level.
@Kuwabara Kazuo: And Diablo, too.
Kuwabara Kazuo
@FreakyFavabean: I blame WoW for babying the MMORPG genre.
@DaveKap: Only ruins lives if ya let it...
@FreakyFavabean: I blame world of warcraft for anything that goes wrong in the world
Blore07
Can someone tell me what a game is supposed to look like in 2009 to keep it from being "old fasioned"?
CaptainCasey
I kind of figured the visuals were for scalability - kind of like WoW, so that you don't have to have a ripping computer to play the game (thus more sales).
The latest Warhammer, for example, I can run on my brand new laptop, but it's a tad chuggy. 3D RTS games get so much going on, the resources start eating themselves and that's probably the last thing you want.
But, if they've had a playable built that long... gee. Is this going to be most polished game release of all-time?
The Forgetful Brain
Also, Blame WoW that Starcraft looks more like it now.
Kuwabara Kazuo
@WiNg0o: Agreed, we must put a stop to this at once!
Blore07
It Does'nt look old fashioned to me but who cares as long as it plays well and have an epic storyline its all gravy
mastergodai
Dammit, if it weren't for WoW, we could be playing SC2 in 2018 instead of 2027.
Now I feel guilty for supporting WoW.
Courteous_Gentleman
Before the WoW hate train starts rolling, I'd like to point out at I'll be the first person to tell you how much WoW sucks, how it has ruined the lives of friends of mine, and why you are a loser for playing it.
However, I'm not going to bash it for making Blizzard so much money that they can manage to bring us Starcraft II on a platinum platter, looking as good as it possibly can while playing like a true sequel should play. Remember that if they didn't manage to bring us the free service of Battle.net we'd be dealing with *spit* GameSpy to do our matchmaking.
So although it pains me that one of my most anticipated gaming titles of the decade had to be delayed so something as awful as WoW could be developed, I'm glad that Blizzard got the time to make Starcraft II better than it would have been.
@FreakyFavabean:
That's gotta be a short list..
RedLinkJ
More like blame blizzard for cutting the game up into 3 peices and not getting a large enough team to work on it at a steady pace.
m4rkg
To be fair I think we could blame WoW for a lot of the world's problems right now much less Starcraft's delay.
Are you sure it's not due to excessive arguments over who goes out to buy the Mountain Dew?
thetophatmonster
I already blame World of Warcraft for anything that Blizzard does wrong.
I don't think it really looks 'old fashioned', I think it just... looks like Starcraft.
Its really no surprise that Blizzard put all of its resources into The Ultimate Cash Cow.
Ubersoldat19
I don't care how old fashioned it looks, I just hope it's good. But I'm sure it will, right?
Blizz takes a long time to release products in general. WoW is just the scapegoat. XD
I'm ok with it ruining lives, BUT NOT MY STARCRAFT! World of Warcraft YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!