Bungie Announces New Halo Game

@Burguois, Teabagger of Olde: You. Are. Fucking. Awesome. +1 to you man took the words right out of my mouth.

GunSilence

@PhatsMahoney: That doesn't prevent them from complaining on it. It just makes them kind of a tool to constantly do so.

And now, I'd like to talk to you all about software piracy.

@Burguois, Teabagger of Olde: Your point on the relative values of opinions is spot on! Although I am uncertain that 'Whoop-de-doo.' even qualifies as a fleshed out opinion. I think it is more of an expression of ennui. It is a way for the poster to communicate that he thinks he is 'too cool for school' without having to look like he cares what anyone else thinks.

Novellion

@Xcite79: killzone 2?

@Abyss123: Delicious cake...

@CoatedTrout: It bothers me as well. Well I guess as long as they're good it's okay. It's also nice to have something that you KNOW will be good. I mean hey how many Ratchet and Clank games have there been? But I grew up playing that game and personally neverr could get tired of playing them. Same probably holds true for Zelda and Metal Gear kids.

As much as I love the Halo series It's becoming the new Mario. There has to be a point where they do something revolutionary and hey maybe reach is that game. I just got through playing Halo Wars and it left a pretty rancid taste in my mouth. I'm loving Halo Custom Edition for PC. Unlimited supply of new maps and scenarios in single player all at no charge. Every Halo fan should check out Custom Edition.

@Kobun:

Oh, but Cake is not good, it is a lie!

Abyss123

@nico1606: Its a prequel, but we don't know what else. Reach was destroyed before the events of Halo. Its the main setting for the book Halo: The Fall of Reach. The covenant completely glassed the planet. It was one of Earth's largest and important colonies.

OMG! Smurfs!

@InnerRayg: But it would be great to see Bungie apply their expertise to another game and see what they come up with.

el_rezzo

@Spiders88: I'm sorry, What?

Michael Queen

Are you people stupid or what?

If you remember a while back Frank O'Conner, former Bungie Employee, said that 4 more Halo games where on the horizon though not necessarily made by Bungie.

1. We got Halo wars
2. We have Peter Jackson's Halo game
3. We have Halo 3: ODST
4. Halo: Reach

It has been said many of times and anyone who missed this has no excuse.

Stop whining. Halo is a good game. It's the fan base that ruins it.

343winks

@wezelboy: I forgot to mention Pimps at Sea. Too bad they never finished that one.

wezelboy

Nice they are really milking this cash cow. Another single player campaign that is 6 hours long and sucks great. I am ODST breaths some fresh air and makes a combat game as good as the 1st one and not a copy with some new skin.

@DocSeuss: Marathon already had a remake. It's called Halo.

A Myth remake would be awesome.

wezelboy

@SinfulKnight: Probably the best game based novel I've ever read (and I've read a LOT of them). This will be the first time in the seventh gen that I buy a Halo game!

ShimodaNexus

@Combine: Point taken. It a prime example of the lack of literary experience or knowledge that is rampant not only in the gaming community but amongst youth in general. While I enjoyed the various characters and the MGS universe why the hell does a story which is only understood by those that have played every single MGS make it good. Further example of the clique mentality of "hardcore" gamers.

@Winterbringer:

Confusion at full force :)

rookybeats

Fffffffuck...

Looks like they conned me into buying ODST...

@Archaotic: Well look at it this way. You know Halo games will always be coming out. Would you rather Bungie be making them or someone not Bungie?

InnerRayg

@Crux117: ... yep, I was right. Still sounds gay.

Didn't notice if anyone had pointed out, but theres no mention of it being released "Fall" 2010, the trailer simply says it "falls" in 2010.

Michael Queen

Its funny that I am excited about this at all. I never got into halo until I started Halo Wars. I avoid Halo 3 Multiplayer however, I just dread the idea of a couple million pre teens and teenagers twitch owning my decrepit ass.

tnmnsquare

@GriefTroll: BWAHHHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

tnmnsquare

@SocraticMethod: MGS's story is vastly overrated. I never paid attention to the story in any of the games and found it to be a better experience as a result. The story is far too convoluted and utterly retarded.

@shwing: No, but thats for the Microsoft Project Natal minigame that you can play. Although you have to take of the helmet and put on the hat to become Master Chef.

@Soniking: Yo dawg, I heard you like witty comments, so I put a cock in your ear...

First of all, I love how there is absolutely zero info about the actual game aside from inferences on a timeframe it's in and people are already judging it. Dear God, WAIT FOR YOUR CRITICISM.

Second, I like the Halo Universe. It has a very nice backstory explained by several decent books that could easily be looked in to with games. That being said, this, along with ODST, will be the last Halo games from Bungie, which makes me kinda sad. Bungie makes really really awesome games and the Halo series has been it's triumph. I want to play 2 more Halo games. Why not?

@VergessenHeld: Why do I have the feeling that the information you know about Alan Moore comes from the horrible land of trolls?

B33

@Slagathorian: People tend to forget that Bungie is working on Three games.

Halo: Reach, Halo 3 ODST, and then another.

So, you never know. Bungie may have a new IP for all we know. Only time will tell.

That's not how Halo Rehash is spelled.

@SocraticMethod: SIR! Did you not play Super Mario 3? THAT was the most epic story in the history of gaming! I mean the dude turned into a fish, a raccoon, slaughtered hundreds of people by jumping on them or breathing fire, he picked a TON of mushrooms, there were magic wands and talking animals and all kinds of stuff!

lordhewlett

@Rauzaruke: You know what, we can complain about silly consumers or whatever. But nothing sells over 9 million copies for being shiteand I dont care what any of you fanboys say.

@uchennaokafor: *deserves a remake/sequel

@Xcite79: Because of rampant stupidity. Any guy who claims Halo is shit and Oni deserves is a moron. There, I said it. I played and enjoyed Oni very much but, boy, was it a cesspit of flaws and glitches. The weapons mechanics were unstable and the hand-to-hand combat was even more odd. Yes, it had its moments but the story took such a nose-dive in the latter chapters it was sad to witness, and this is coming from a guy who fired it up just a week ago. Plot points such as Konoko's relationship with Muro and the circumstances surround her father and the TCTF in general were greatly under-exploited. Those interested in the background of what seemed like an intriguing premise were left to venture to data consoles which looked like they had been tacked on as an after-thought. Add to thst the dreadful voice-acting and non-existant cutscene animation.

While I wouldnt mind seeing another Oni, lets not get it twisted, Halo was leaps and bounds above Oni and you are nothing but a dick if you sit there and deny it.

@Winterbringer: Ignorance at full force.
:)

@Shredator: Yes.

I have made multiple LIVE accounts.

You cannot escape me.

(PS. You're whining to a similar degree)

@WizarDru: Ignore the haters, most of them have never touched the game and are merely losers who like to jump on the "popular things always suck" bandwagon. I feel sad for the pathetic and unfulfilling lives many of you must live. To the jackass who said "Halo is mostly ideas from other games" please elaborate.

@Slagathorian: You know what Halo's story isnt exactly groundbreaking but its strutured very well. Since gamers seem to be so selective when it comes storytelling (lol, unbelievable isnt it) could you please name me some examples of good story in videogames.

@Burguois, Teabagger of Olde:Let me guess what you think your opinion is worth?

Everything you just said could be applied to a positive comment about Halo but I'm guessing you only look at things from your point of view. Which is no doubt the correct point of view...of course.

@shwing: Heh. I think that joke was a reach in itself.

>_>

@PhatsMahoney:

I wonder what happened with that painting Bungie talked about after they finished Marathon: Infinity.
"A beautiful white horse lying on the ground, dead, with Bungie employees striking blunt objects at it."

I'm a huge Marathon fan. And I enjoy the Halo games. But I can't help but feel a tad disappointment on what happened to Bungie since then.

Federico Iglesias

Spartan squad-based shooter, anyone?

My360broked

@chronomasakari: Get over it? I would have had to care in the first place to "get over it". And please don't feel like you have to explain common sense to someone because they made a joke you didn't care for.

If you ask me, Halo Reach is a game for the Motion Cam.

@Slagathorian:
Wait...13 games, numerous spinoffs, several spinoffs of FFVII alone, movies, comics. I don't care if they all have different stories. That's not milking it??

DJ Magneto

@Spoony: or, perish the thought, the terms of them splitting included the requirement that they make X more Halo games?

@CoatedTrout: Is this the same sensitive guttermouth kid who had a hissy fit over just about anything not going his way everytime I played a multiplayer match of Halo? It is you isn't it?

@rookybeats:

I semi agree with that statement. Halo has left rather stale taste in my mouth. The first Halo was excellent in every possible way. Co-op, graphics, gameplay, system-link, story was decent... overall it was stellar. Halo 2 took that awesomeness and shit all over it. Aliens conversing in English, a walking talking plant thing reminiscent of Little Shop of Horrors... yea we get the point. Halo 3 looked like it belonged on the original Xbox and really had nothing fresh (over the multiplayer). But i digress, if Halo Reach doesn't completely shake up the series, and clean up the graphics (aka making it actually LOOK next-gen or how about making it look like the premiere title on the 360 instead of an Xbox port) and innovate i pass.

@Slagathorian:

thank you.

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: God of War doesn't change much, and the games are still kick ass. Same with Halo. Same with Street Fighter. I love pretty much every Mario game, but THAT is "over milking". Kart racing, Olympic games, Tennis, Golf, Mario Party... that's what milking is, but it's okay because I love them all. If you start seeing Halo cell phone games (God of War: Betrayal, I'm looking at you), Halo Tennis, etc, then you could say they're "over milking" it.

Otherwise, stop being an ignorant fanboy.

@DocSeuss:

Oni? Why make a sequel to a game that sucked and sold poorly?

They could keep making Halo games that take place from different soldiers views of the war. This isn't World War II here, it'll take a lot longer to get stale. I'm interested in what this game will be about.

@Acebuckeye13: I'm sorry. The shere amount of data copied from Wikipedia nearly crashed my laptop. Let me reiterate my last statement.
The above is a list of Mario games from 2001 to 2009. NOT EVEN COUNTING the eleventy kajillion games from the eighties to the late 90's. Halo, by contrast, has 5 games, counting ODST. Now, Halo, whatever your opinion of it, had evolved over the past 8 years, adding many functions such as a Xbox Live party system that nearly every uses today, the ability to do things like forge and theatre on consoles (I may remind you the Forge isn't really just a map editor: It's an entirely different way of playing the game) four player Co-Op, and dozens of other things. Just because of the Microsoft Media blitz does not mean a Franchise is milked. The above list is the true sign that a franchise is milked.

Acebuckeye13

Woo-hoo!!

Please please please please PLEASE make sure the story from Fall of Reach is intact and awesome. So many good characters to explore during the course of the game. :D

@rookybeats: The problem with this line of thought is the assumption that all opinions have the same worth. They don't.

Stating that you don't like Halo is fine and dandy but it's an utterly worthless comment because it has been made by millions of people. Your opinion is not a delicate, unique snowflake. Sorry if you think it is.

If your opinion was something along the lines of "I feel that Bungie is a bad company because Jason Jones murdered my family with a hammer then, using nothing but an excruciatingly small amount of Vaseline and a 12 inch fully articulated Master Chief action figure, showed me the true power of a Spartan" then it might be of some worth.

By the way if that is your opinion then do feel free to divulge it, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we desire to hear it more than the ridiculous, passive-aggressive console warrior bullshit that plagues Every. Single. Halo. Thread.

Burguois, Teabagger of Olde

@B33: Its clear that Bungie knew where they were going with this story counting on the success of the first Halo. They have clearly planned to explore the story from several different perspectives and times. You guys don't like it, fine, but every time there is a post about Bungie and Halo the first 6 comments seem to be guaranteed to concern how "Bungie sucks, waaaaa".

This shit happens whenever something gains popularity and its annoying every time.

I can't stress this enough, and this is always applicable, if you don't like it, don't play it.

@B33: Which doesn't matter because Alan Moore is so full of himself he's lost a sense of humor about his work.

VergessenHeld

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: WHAT.
Seriously, as many have said previously, Halo has only had about one game every three years. (ODST counts as a half), with Halo Wars by Ensamble. Mario and Sonic are the prime examples of a milked franchise, with appearences in nearly every single Nintendo game.
Let's look at this list:
[edit] 2001
Dr. Mario 64 (Nintendo 64) - Japan release
Mario Tennis (Game Boy Color) - release outside Japan
Paper Mario (Nintendo 64) - release outside Japan
Mario Party 3 (Nintendo 64) - release outside Japan
Super Mario Advance (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Kart Super Circuit (Game Boy Advance)
Luigi's Mansion (GameCube)
Super Smash Bros. Melee (GameCube) - Japan and North America release
Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (Game Boy Advance) - Japan Release

[edit] 2002
Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (Game Boy Advance) - Release outside of Japan
Super Mario Sunshine (GameCube)
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Party 4 (GameCube)
Super Smash Bros. Melee - Europe release
Game & Watch Gallery 4 (Game Boy Advance)

[edit] 2003
Super Mario Bros. 3: Super Mario Advance 4 (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (GameCube)
Mario Kart: Double Dash‼ (GameCube)
Mario Party 5 (GameCube)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Game Boy Advance)
Nintendo Puzzle Collection (GameCube) - Japan only - Dr. Mario is a game in the collection

[edit] 2004
Super Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Party (Arcade)
Mario Golf: Advance Tour (Game Boy Advance)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Game Boy Advance)
Super Mario Bros. (Classic NES Series) (Game Boy Advance e-Reader)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (GameCube)
Mario Pinball Land (Game Boy Advance)
Dr. Mario (Classic NES Series) (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Power Tennis (GameCube)
Mario Party 6 (GameCube)
Wrecking Crew (Game Boy Advance)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (GBA) - Japan only for GBA
Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo DS) - Japan and North American release

[edit] 2005
Mario Power Tennis (GameCube) - European release
Mario Party Advance (Game Boy Advance)
Yoshi Touch & Go (Nintendo DS)
Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix (GameCube)
Dr. Mario & Puzzle League (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Superstar Baseball (GameCube)
Mario Tennis: Power Tour (Game Boy Advance)
Mario Party 6 (GameCube) - Australia and Europe release
Super Princess Peach (Nintendo DS) - Japan release
Mario Party 7 (GameCube)
Mario Kart DS (Nintendo DS)
Super Mario Strikers (GameCube)
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Nintendo DS)
Mario Kart Arcade GP (Arcade) international release
NBA Street V3 (GameCube) Playable Character
SSX on Tour (GameCube) Playable Character

[edit] 2006
Mario Party 7 (GameCube) - European and Australia release
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Nintendo DS) - European and Australia release
Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo DS) - Chinese release
Super Princess Peach (Nintendo DS) - release outside Japan
New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo DS)
Mario Hoops 3-on-3 (Nintendo DS) playable character
Game & Watch Collection
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo DS) - North American Release - supporting character
Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo DS) - supporting character
Mario Bros. - November 19 (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Donkey Kong (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Super Mario Bros. (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Donkey Kong Jr. (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Pinball (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Super Mario 64 (Wii Virtual Console (N64))
Mario's Super Picross (Wii Virtual Console (SNES)) - Japanese release

[edit] 2007
Super Paper Mario (Wii) April 9, 2007
Mario Party 8 - (Wii) - May 29, 2007 North America
Itadaki Street DS (Nintendo DS) - June 21, 2007 (Japan)
Mario Strikers Charged (Wii) - July 30, 2007
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo DS) - release outside North America - supporting character
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii, Nintendo DS) - November 6, 2007 (U.S. release)
Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - November 12, 2007 (USA)
Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (Arcade) - 2007 (Japan)
Mario Party DS (Nintendo DS) - November 19, 2007 [1]
Mario Kart 64 (Wii Virtual Console (N64))
Paper Mario (Wii Virtual Console (N64))
Super Mario World (Wii Virtual Console (SNES))
Super Mario Bros. 2 USA (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels (Wii Virtual Console (NES))
Super Mario Bros. 3 (Wii Virtual Console (NES))

[edit] 2008
Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games - January 22, 2008 (Nintendo DS)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - March 9, 2008 (Wii)
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - April 27, 2008
Dr. Mario Online Rx (WiiWare) - May 26, 2008
Mario Super Sluggers (Wii) - August 25, 2008
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (Wii Virtual Console (SNES))
Mario Golf (Wii Virtual Console (N64))

2009
Mario Power Tennis New Play Control (Wii) - March 9, 2009
Dr. Mario Express (Nintendo DSi Ware) - April 20, 2009
Mario and Luigi RPG 3 (Nintendo DS) - TBA 2009
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Nintendo DS) and (Wii) - Late 2009

Now Let's look at all the Halo Games:
Halo Cpmbat Evolved
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo: OThe raw data speaks for itself. Every Halo gaem has gotten overwealming reviews and praise. I bet you havn't even heard of half thoseYou, sir, are a gold platted idiot.DST
Ha

Acebuckeye13

Wait...is this going to have Master Chief in it?! I thought Gearbox was making the next Halo?! WTF?!?!?!?!

k0d0s

@rookybeats: Jealousy at full force

Winterbringer

@-[[CHoZO]]-: Bungie was pretty brilliant and innovative. Loved them before Halo, but since they've started milking halo..its' been pretty downhill. They really need some new stuff. slapping the word 'halo' on a game doesn't cut it.

@B33:

Original IP from Bungie? Right.

"Oh where, oh where has our Alex Seropian gone?"

Murauder

@Riktor: Who's going to buy it?

*raises hand*

jallen

@Tugsy: Oh, I didn't say it doesn't make sense. Just commenting on how the wheel has turned, if you will.

jallen

I'm buying ODST but and didn't buy the mythic pack because it's included in ODST. Halo Wars isn't my cup of caffeinated beverage but I'm buying Reach because milked or not they produce quality games with more care than most studios. I won't be disappointed unless MS pulls another fast one with map packs and LE versions.

inajeep

@Riktor: I'm in the other 20%. When I went to GameStop (shudder) to purchase a copy of Crackdown, the employee told me that the Halo 3 beta was over. I said something along the lines of "That's nice, what does it have to do with me buying Crackdown?" I loved that game, and still pop it in from time to time to try and finish my last race, after that I just have the stunt rings... I'll probably never do that :)

Sweet, I am down for this game.

Cant wait to see the story and single player... dont know if it is too wise for them to have 3 different MP games though, set in the same universe. Almost self cannibalizing.

That is unless they all play differently online, but I dont see that happening.

Ahh Fanboys and haters, keeping me smiling since at least 1999. Whoever described Metal Gear as having one of the best stories of a game ever.....seriously? Did you start gaming last month. To overlook the Black ISle/Bioware games to name a few, its just silly how myopic most gamers are.

Fall of the Reach was a solid story and I am curious as to how the game will be. Given the way the story went, this game has to be a prequel of some sort. I am doubting it will be an MMO as the consoles have yet to find success there.

Bundling the beta with ODST is a good idea as ODST is a Halo game without master chief so having a hook is never a bad idea. Crackdown 2 already has an installed base who actually ended up liking the original.

Hengst2404

@Shredator:
Good thing they announced they are working on a new Ip then. That was a long time ago in an interview though. Bungie is planning to become a multigame developer. So They'll probably have one or two teams working on Halo games and a different team on new stuff.

JustAnotherFan

@Dude From Dubai: Is dubai really broke? (^_^)

@jallen:
Makes a lot of sense to me... why would Bungie promote another title when they can promote their own?

@rookybeats: I feel ya the trickle of infomation jadded me to no end for halo 2. I have pretty much put my back to the odst one.

The HD Trailer is up on Xbox Live. I had to dig around to find it. But its there, under the Game addons->Game Videos->New Releases.

I am surprised that its not on the front page. The navigation for the new Dashboard is still abit wonky for me. You got to dig around to get the good stuff.

Anyways--I am very excited about this new Halo. Maybe it can bring some of the classic Halo feel back to it!

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!:

:/

If it isn't broken, don't fix it? Who's to say Halo doesn't "stay fun" as you said with Mario and Sonic. I can simply say mainstay Mario games are Mario 64 with a graphical overhaul and an added gimmick. Those still manage to be fun too. Funny you should mention Sonic, who gets bombarded by the internet at any attempt at a different gameplay style no matter the quality (see Werehog hate despite being well designed and not broken)

No, Halo is not the "prime example." There are many little element that get changed while the core gameplay that ropes people remains intact. Halo started it all with by giving console FPS's a shot in the arm. Well controlling vehicles,same system co-op, system link, shield recharging, and easy toggle grenades. Halo 2 introduced effective and easy duel wielding (for consoles), the party system, regenerating health, hell the framework of Xbox Live today, and improved other elements. Halo 3 refines the online experience with replays viewable by all, forge,file sharing, 4 player co-op, etc.

I don't see how you could say Halo is a re-skin. Oh wait, you're a fanboy. I forgot. Sorry.

@Rauzaruke: Can we even call Final Fantasy an offender anymore? I mean it takes Squeenix like 4+ years to put out a new FF nowadays, and...

*Remembers all of the rereleases over the last several years...*

Oh... nevermind.

Mini-Boss

sounds like no one gives a hoot about new halo that aint halo 4 also sounds like bungie is not doing anything with games if it aint halo, how many times can i be a space marine and enjoy it???(not just aimed towards halo but all space marine games including killzone a game i love and play everyday) the fps genre is the most unoriginal and played out genre this gen

Timothy Saskiewicz

I am pumped for this, regardless of what anybody says, wish they had more to show, but come on it's the return of the Spartans!

I mean yeah Bungie might as well call themselves Halo Inc., but I am still totally gonna play this and Halo:ODST because Halo FPS games are good games period.

@Slagathorian: He's talking about Metal Gear?

Svend Joscelyne

As far as i'm concerned...bungie can keep making Halo games. I don't hear people bitching out Square Enix for keeping the Final Fantasies coming. Isn't Bungie working on 3 projects anyway? So maybe they do have something other than Halo up their sleeves.

Crux117

@B33: A shame? For who? Why? Seriously, I'd like to know. A shame because they could be remaking Myth or a new IP? I know you don't mean a shame for Bungie or Microsoft.

I mean, let's be clear here: HALO is THE SINGLE BEST SELLING GAME ON THE 360. Halo MADE the original Xbox. Halo 3 has sold 8.5 million copies, plus DLC. It's sold books, comics, albums, board games and action figures.

WizarDru

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: Halo is not THE prime example of over milking, Guitar Hero is.

@Glorax: Reach is the name of a Planet in the haloverse. It was destroyed shortly before Halo: Combat Evolved.

Crux117

@Archaotic: I have read all of the Halo books, and The Fall of Reach is fantastic. I am thinking, since Bungie announced a multi player beta, that probably signifies that Reach is a whole new game altogether. I hope to play as John when he is a kid all the while he matures into an adult.

@SinfulKnight: A positive remark? On a Halo article? Dear sir, I think you have the wrong place.

I agree with you though, I can't wait to play out the fall of Reach.

New Halo = EPIC...guess they aren't saving it for nexbox...or are they...maybe not nexbox, but instead, Xbox 360.5

hiruu

I hope the story is better than the other Halos...everyone has told me the books are great..so if they story is good...I'm game.

Reach? That sounds like a very gay subtitle. Is there something called reach in the Haloverse that it's referencing that I'm not aware of? Still sounds gay regardless.

I love you, Halo trolls. I really, really do.

@Protector one:

Money talks.

The Metal Gear announcement completely overshadowed this, totally expected announcement.

Soniking

@Shredator:

Game devs milk IPs, get over it. It's how they make money. The biggest reason to create a new and fresh IP is to create some other IP to milk. That's not always the case but it's usually what publishers have in mind at the least (maybe not always the devs)

@Riktor:
While that is true, how many years has it been from MG to MGS4 and how many years between Halo 1 and Halo 3? Damn people, give them some more time. Dev cycles and costs are much higher now than they used to be.

@DreamoftheEndless: You make it sound like it's hard to make a Rorschach speach, it's as easy as a "Yo dog"

Soniking

@CoatedTrout: Douche chiiiilll..

@Riktor:

Go Solid Spartan!

@Spoony: What do you think the multi-plat chances are?

1000 to 1?

@Riktor: Crackdown was amazing.

And I bought it months after the BETA was released.

And here come the haters...

Gray665

@Rauzaruke: Every fina fantasy is different from the last. Hardly something they've been milking.

Mario has been in over 250 games.

THAT'S milking.

@dustintriplett: Lol, desperate. Try playing Marathon.

RiotControl

@rookybeats: Problem with such a short teaser: the only thing it says is that a new Halo game is coming. Well of course it is. If this was a game we didn't know was coming, or if it was a teaser that actually gave some kind of information, it might actually be worth something.

@Rauzaruke: lol, nobody is saying that those games are bad for doing it, and nobody's saying they dont do it, but seriously, all they do for each halo sequel is change the graphics, and toss in a few guns. It's basicly the Madden of the FPS genre, and it is applauded just as much for being unoriginal(not the first one, that can be argued as original. the sequels are unoriginal re-skins though) and mainstream.

Final Fantasy at least change the story for every game, change a lot of the elements, have an entire new cast of characters-as opposed to a space pirat--i mean, marine who miraculously manages to survive onto the next series, and live to fight for a war that could be ended literally, by stopping fighting. but for badass points, who cares right? It's just like the ending of terminator salvation, where *SPOILER ALERT*...and that lets them keep the stupid series going....

mario and sonic mix it up with cross game appearances and 2-3d gameplay elements. Those also stay fun. And with megaman, they also have changed the main character, and moved into a pseudo 3d gameplay style now, so even they have progressed in terms of milking correctly.

We can defend video games all day, but halo is the prime example of over milking. just having a long franchise doesnt make it over milking, if they can manage to keep it fresh. And as we've seen for the past decade or so, attempting to keep a FPS fresh is nearly impossible.

@Riktor: Well considering the HEAPING of praise that Crackdown got I'm going to guess...tons of people. I for one can't wait for Crackdown 2. Besides, everyone and their mother knows that the Halo series has consistently been a multiplayer game with a bundled single player campaign (with a shitty driving sequence climax) added for good measure.

@NeVeRMoRe666: Fall damage?

@digitalmethod: I like that comment, but I HIGHLY doubt that you came up with it. Probably stole it from somewhere.

DreamoftheEndless

@SocraticMethod: Are you mad? The most epic story in the history of gaming? The Halo series are some of my favorite games of all time, and I'm one of the few Kotaku rabid Halo supporters, but don't you dare say that the story is great, epic or amazing in any way. The story is garbage, the voice acting is garbage, and the script is garbage. We love Halo for its other attributes, the story and level design for instance are not part of those attributes.

I would like to see Bungie switch it up a bit though. Its clear that that can make good games, or are they a one trick pony?

Wasn't Bungie all done and finished with Halo? :Confused:

Sounds neat, lack of game footage is dissapointing though :(

Grind_Axis

@Satki: aka Halo before Halo.

@Satki: And the Myth series.

Gray665

@DocSeuss:
I would give a body part for another Myth game if they still had rights to the IP.

Seevaur

@Shredator: You want to see a milked franchise?

Look at final fantasy.

Or Mario

Or sonic

Or zelda, even.

Or MGS!

OR ANYTHING THAT HAS MORE THAN 4 FUCKING GAMES (and 1 RTS by another company) RELEASED FOR IT OVER 9 YEARS

Finally I get to see the others spartan Fred Kelly Linda Anton and alot more , read the novel and its great . I just hope to see all the action from the novel.

I personally see a lot of potential in this...maybe if the gameplay's good you'll all stop complaining about new IP? There's a lot of story to tell. But the gameplay's probably gonna be normal Halo FPS, so whatever.

I'm excited for this but am looking forward to new things from Bungie. Not Marathon or anything. Just something new. That'd be awesome. This should be too, though.

Ever since I read Halo: The Fall Of Reach I was wishing that they would either make that story the plot of a Movie or give me a game where I could play through those events.

So if you don't like this... blame me.

:0)

@digitalmethod: There was a tear in my eye.

Well done, sir. Well done.

NekuSakuraba

@digitalmethod:
You sir, have won the internet!

Arman Amin

@MurlocCake:

Really?

4 games in the span of nine years is milking a game? I'm sorry, but after looking and Megaman, Mario, Sonic, and Final Fantasy, there is no way Halo is a bad offender.

@Rem:

This is a discussion forum. I made the topic, he replied. He's got the same right to opinion as you do.

rookybeats

@Riktor: And the entire Marathon series...

Satki

@Spoony: once a slave, always a slave.
s/slave/bitch .

@B33: As did I.

TriplEEE13

So, can i play as a marine yet?

@DocSeuss: there is no depth of depravity i wouldn't sleeze to if it meant ensuring the eventual release of Oni 2.

@Bii Nii Wii Nii Politely Replaces You're Your with Your You...: Nope you're crazy this wasn't really exciting.

I was hoping we'd actually see some new IP instead all we got were sequels to above average game series. Sure they'll be good games since the previous ones were but nothing about these new games were excitingly pushing the envelopes.

So no this press conference was pretty subpar. Though i suppose if you eat, sleep, and breathe halo it would be the best thing since Halo 3 was announced for you.

Gimme. Im a Halo junkie D:

NitrousO

@SocraticMethod: Well to be fair ODST is suppose to introduce a different game play mechanic to the series.

I was under the impression that Bungie had moved on from Halo after departing from MS.

Anyways, they've got some good sci-fi chops, it does frustrate me that they're limiting themselves to one franchise.

I'd love to see them do some more epic space opera, instead of the generic military sf stuff that they have done with Halo.

Me: I'm starting to think they are just milking this franchise for all it's worth.

Bungie: These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Me: What was I saying....oh yeah, a new Halo? Awesome!

@TheNocturnalSun: I really wish they wouldn't move backwards with the IP. Lets leave that to the books and 3rd party devs. I hope this ties up the end of 3.

EricLecarde

@jallen:
yeah, who's going to buy Crackdown 2 when it doesn't have a Halo beta/demo. (I'm pretty sure 80% of Crackdown buyers bought it for the beta, or it was a very persuasive detail in the purchase)

Whoa! Too much news overload! How do I catch up on all of the excitement?!? Did E3 start already? It seems like we've been talking about it forever.

And to all of these so called "elitist" gamers poo-pooing on Halo, I've only got this to say to you: "Fuck-you!, I like it, its mindless fun and exactly what I would expect out of a 'video-game', your opinions be damned!"

:p

@-[[CHoZO]]-: Well, they had a lot of new ideas, but then everyone else started using them. Like a two gun limit and recharging health. OF COURSE they have new ideas, you moron. That's how they come up with new games.

Acebuckeye13

@SinfulKnight:
Yeah, Kojima has made
1) Boktai - a highly rated game on GBA
2) Boktai 2
3) Zone of the Enders - an early PS2 game which showed the power of PS2
4) Zone of the Enders 2 - what ZoE should have been (3x better)
And the guy made PoliceNauts, his first game which people say was "ground breaking"
Bungie has... Oni
and I don't think Metal Gear has ripped from many stealth genres while Halo has ripped from many FPS

@-[[CHoZO]]-: They're milking it.

@SinfulKnight: MGS manages to stay fresh though. And it has probably the most epic story in the history of gaming.

@B33:
well I laughed :(

Kojima Vs. Bungie
why can't they just come to a truce?

@Svenn: Gee, I dunno, maybe the hundreds of thousands of Halo fans?

I'm not one of them, but seriously, if you don't like Halo, that's fine. There's something that nobody cares about. Keep it to yourself.

Rem

@Svenn: I don't give a shit either, I hate the series, but there are tons of people who love it.

So, when Crackdown the original was announced, they said 'buy it, get access to the Halo 3 multiplayer beta.'

Crackdown 2 gets announced, and it stands on its own, with the Halo: Reach beta getting instead bundled with...ODST.

huh.

jallen

@B33: Yeah, they should ... dammit, I'd really rather just see a remade Marathon or Oni 2. Too bad neither of those are ever going to happen.

DocSeuss

@SinfulKnight: except he's done Zone of the Enders since MGS began. He's didn't simply stick to MGS.

I thought Bungie left Microsoft because they were tired of working on Halo and the whole point of them leaving was to start work on new titles.

Apparently those big stinky checks made them forget that idea.

Shame i was really looking forward to something not halo related from them.

@Svenn: errrr, I do. Your point is?

Yay! Halo:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Hey_Blinkon

In other news, sky is blue, dogs go bark, and cake is good.

KOJIMA

Am I crazy or is this presser just amazing with the content it is bringing. I am completely overwhelmed right now. Never imagined it would be all of this. Awesome, E3 is back baby.

probably based on the very popular Fall of Reach book

TheNocturnalSun

I'd like to think the game will center on Master Chief's home life and cooking skills, but that's a bit of a reach. AMIRITE?!

/crickets
//I'll leave.

@digitalmethod: Some where out there in the abyss, Alan Moore weeps, as you butcher his work.

B33

I wish they'd tell us what it is. Fall of Reach was actually supposed to be a really good book, so if they pull this off well it might just be worth buying.

But a part of me still thinks it's a little sad that Bungie's not done with Halo. :[

@B33: You can say the same For Kojima. How many times was Metal Gear His Last Game Again?

SinfulKnight

So wtf is this MMO? Prequel ? An MMO PREQUEL?

nico1606

Awesome, I loved the Book. Can't Wait.

SinfulKnight

Bungie just plain sucks. They've got no new ideas.

-[[CHoZO]]-

Its 4.50 Am here in sydney, and I have to wake up for uni at 7.

Yet, i barge on.

SLEEP BE DAMNED !!!

Master Chief's Journal - April 16, 2535
This game is afraid of me. I have seen its true code. The servers are extended noobfests and the noobfests are full of twelve-year-olds and when the series of tubes finally scab over, all the vermin will drown in their own sugar-induced rage. The accumulated noobishness of all their rocket launchers and betraying will lag up about their waists and all the newbs and greifers will turn up their mics and shout "return the flag!"… and I'll turn on my highly raspy and slightly monotone voice filter and whisper "No."

digitalmethod

I love teasers. Seeing Game titles in high-def is sooo much better than just reading the title.

@rookybeats: Agreed. Who cares?

Shame Bungie doesn't move on to a brand new IP.

B33

Whoop-de-doo.

rookybeats

Fall of Reach has a fantastic book. I am the biggest Halo lover if there ever was one, but even I don't want this to turn into a series that just keeps going and becomes duller and duller over time.

However, I will give this the benefit of the doubt, with more information to come.

Kovitlac

@B33: Because Alan Moore doesn't even care to see any of the movies based on his own precious work. I don't care if he agrees with them or not - he looks like an asshole snob, otherwise.

Kovitlac

@Acebuckeye13: Really halo was the first with renerating health? Look to g police my friend...

@Spoony: I agree, I so far havent seen anything too spectacular to drool over. I am however hoping to hear about the new Fable, and maybe some stuff from Bethesda.

Torak3015