Crysis 2 Is Announced, Multi-Platform

@Raziel66: the problem that even on max it doesn't look as impressive to me as other games that run silky smooth at far greater res and effects. (fallout 3 farcry 2, COD WAW and even Jericho)Crysis does a few things those games don't, but those things don't necessarily make cryss look better. The difference in frame rates, however, is enormous.
I held out hope until I had a machine that far exceeded what was even out at the time crysis came out and I'm just not that impressed anymore. I have a 4890 quadcore 2.4 4gbs ram and it still runs like crap. It's pretty smooth and playable but it does lose frames frequently, which is unforgivable comparing to the above listed games that ran smooth as hell when Crysis was still choking at medium settings. Compared to something rock solid like Killzone2 (with far better lighting) and particle effects it just doesn't stand up to me. I ahve a lot of hope for this new engine though.

@-MasterDex-: Not really looking to pick a fight, Crysis is just a bit of an e-peen topic on forums. ;) I do however like to remind people that irrestpective of how "quick" they think their eyes/reactions/brains are, anything that is much over 30fps is a waste of processing power. :D

ThursdayNext

@DocSeuss:

I doubt the it will even run at 720p. It'll probably be like other titles that run even lower.

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:

Anybody who says things like this just doesn't own a good gaming PC. The difference is there and it's worth it.

@Cerabret100: imo you were playing it right.

also proning let's the invisibility last a lot long

@DocSeuss: the "memory leak" stops after about a few minutes atleast for me anyway.

@-Hairball-: Please tell me you aren't saying a 4870x2 is just a bit more powerful than the graphics cards in the PS3 or 360?

IoWn3rU

@KommanderKeith: horribly unoptimized? you have got to be kidding me. the amount of things happening at any given time in that game is insane, still no other game can top it.
the fact that it runs at all is a testament to how well built the tech is.

@Kougeru Matsuoka:
I shoot people in the back before they had a chance to shoot around quite a bit in crysis.
Knifing people?
Now that's skill.

@ThursdayNext:
The orange box is too.
@abort_user:
PC piracy is most certainly easier than any other system out now though, and valve and indie devs either have to use restrictive DRM, or end up having possible piracy problems.

@CasteelGilmore:
If you are talking about XNA- then yes. Absolutely.

although the Core programming- while structure is the same (from what i have been told)
utilizing the Architecture is a tad more than how a PC outputs graphics, input and commands.

@deanbmmv: Oooh sorry i just re-read what you said, haha. I feel dumb now.
Yeah I understand what you mean.

Them having an in-house studio with PS3 experience will more than likely make the ps3 version a little better-
since they know all the bells and whistles.

i wonder who is in charge of the console ports..or if each system has an independent dev.

@deanbmmv:

I was talking about the Tech sides of the consoles.

@feathers4sale
Currently i work at Valve- Senior Level designer -
On a little game they just dropped news on at E3 called
Left 4 Dead II..

god it feels good to say that out loud.

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:
"he only difference between a mouse and an analogue is that the mouse has more room to move so it can be moved more accurately"
nope.
Also a input method being more "FUN" than another is hard to prove.
And once again, a control pad is not a PC exclusive, you can take any wired 360 controller, plug it into a PC, and use it.

Summer 2010/Spring 2011.

...My estimate has been done.

NekuSakuraba

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:
Thats the beauty of it, i can use a keyboard, a mouse, a 360 gamepad, a ps3 gamepad, a wiimote, a gamepad, a novint falcon, one of those facetracking doohickies, hell even a nes control if i wanted too.
People complain because its inherently better to have all of the above than one excellent choice.

@fELIXADER:
Hundreds of buttons?
What was the last PC game you played, mech warrior?

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:
Who put a bee up your ass?

I'll buy it if it's also an alien and mutagen-free game. Their human character AI and sandbox gameplay have always been brilliantly fun. Their take on zombies and aliens? Pure joykill.

yagisencho

@-MasterDex-: Even Warhead makes my computer cry, and I've got a dual core 3.2GHZ with 4 GB of ram and a GTX260. There's still a big memory leak in the engine.

Dunia is an impressive engine and I wouldn't complain if that was the graphical quality achieved for Crysis 2, but do realize it's more about textures than it is engines.

DocSeuss

@KommanderKeith: Yup; even Warhead's got this horrible memory leak that makes the game unplayable for me after about 30 minutes or so, while it runs perfectly on maxed settings in those first moments.

DocSeuss

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Graphically, games are often significantly inferior on consoles. Always have been, it's possible that they always will be.

DocSeuss

@DocSeuss: Playing a shooter on a console as compared to a PC is like playing Dead Rising on the Wii instead of the PC. Sure, it's similar, but the controls aren't nearly as precise and the graphics just aren't as awesome.

The only way console shooters are any good is when they toss in things like limited auto aim and the like. The mouse and keyboard offers a precision that controllers just can't match.

Don't go playing HAWX without a controller. >_>

DocSeuss

@Virussz: I played both crysis and warhead, and the cryengine3 is a reduced version of cryengine2, no matter what fanboyz say consoles just doesnt have the power to run crysis with cryengine2, thats why cryengine3 was for...

@HELLSRIDER is playing Mother 3: Im sure that an updated cryengine2 will be used for the PC version, so pc gets the highest graphical quality...

TOCATL

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: No one's saying it can't run on consoles; they're saying it can't run at 1900x1200 with full AA and maximum texture size. This isn't the result of fanboy nonsense, it's a fact. Consoles and AA are not friends, and their maximum resolution is 1280x720. So more than likely, Crysis will run on consoles, but at specs that are, comparable to PCs, quite low.

The mouse and keyboard IS godly when it comes to shooters. I would know, because I'm apparently the only person on the face of the planet who uses both types of controllers.

DocSeuss

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Why wouldn't it look bad? The HD console fanboys are always complaining about how Wii games look horrible, underpowered, etc. A PC game compared to an HD console game is the same situation. In terms of resolution size, 1200 > 1080 > 720 > 480. No one ever has any problems complaining about the Wii running games at a low resolution (it's harder to find a Wii post without the complaint/troll). But now that PC gamers are the ones doing it to HD consoles, where are all the lols, +1's, comment of the week? We had no problem with the graphics from last generation's consoles, but now they're suddenly ugly and horrible just because there's something better being offered. Exact same situation with PC to HD consoles.

For someone who's used to looking at PC games running on maxed out settings, I'm sure console games do "look bad" in comparison. But what do console gamers care? If they were graphics whores they'd do their gaming on PC and not a bunch of underpowered consoles connected to a high-end TV with a relatively low max resolution compared to a high-end monitor.

Leanid

i ran Crysis perfectly, i dont know why so many people made a fuss about it, but SWEET i love that game

@ThursdayNext: Oh yeah, I couldn't really care as long as it's playable and 30fps most certainly is. On my own machine, Crysis runs between 35-45 average, that's plenty good enough for me.

Just wanted to make it a bit clearer to those who expect Crysis 2 to be putting out much above 30fps at 720p let alone 1080p, that it was wishful thinking on their part and very unlikely.

-MasterDex-

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Controller sensitivity is largely irrelevant. It has to do with the difference in control between your thumb and your hand. You can make an analogue stick as sensitive as you want, but you physically can't exercise the same amount of control over it with your thumb as you can your hand, and to a greater extent your wrist.

The thing that makes mouse sensitivity so much more accurate is that you don't have to move a lot. I have the sensitivity settings set on my mouse such that my hand can stay in relatively the same place with tiny movements made with the wrist controlling the majority of the mouse movement.

And like Dex said, how can you possibly say being allowed to setup your controller to custom fit your needs is a bad design choice? A keyboard is already laid out in a logical manner. It's why keyboard designs largely haven't changed since their inception and why there's a "standard" layout for PC game controls. The reason many people don't like/can't get behind PC controls is because they are so much more sensitive than controllers. Every little action is picked up and executed.

And like I said before, various devs have said they had problems getting the difference in precision to gel between kb+m and a controller in their games, with the kb+m always coming out on top. I'm not saying this to be a PC snob or knock consoles, I like both. I'm saying it because it's a fact that a kb+m offers more control over what you're doing than a thumbstick.

As for sitting perfectly straight and lining yourself up and all that nonsense, you're just imposing artificial limits on yourself. I slouch, hunch, sit up straight, etc while playing PC games all the time. If I felt like getting a flat surface for my mouse, I could lay in my bed or on a couch and play if I really wanted to. Wireless mice and keyboards, while not the best for FPS gaming, offer nearly the same amount of freedom as a controller.

Sir-Lucius

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: This is the strangest argument I've ever heard. I've never bitched about using controllers, and I do enjoy how I can relax on a couch and play games. But seriously, it sounds more like you are just used to a controller and find a keyboard awkward. Which is a natural feeling, because I grew up using controllers and didn't want to switch to keyboard/mouse.

I own an ergonomic keyboard that costs less than a controller, and its very comfortable for me. It's comfort is a matter of opinion, not fact, so it isn't a good argument for how good/bad it is as a gaming device.

Also, having the AI slower IS making it easier. Note I said easier, not dumber. And your blanket statement about pc prices really goes to show how much (or little) you know about the PC realm.

supo

@-MasterDex-: Don't see the point in 60fps anyway. My human eyes handle 30fps just fine.

ThursdayNext

@Suprehombre: lol it won't

Meteoric

@bluem4gic: It's not because of Free Radical, though that might help a bit. After Warhead was released, Cevat Yerli stated that it was the very last PC-exclusive title that Crytek would develop. He touted piracy as the main reason for the move to multi-platform and stated that consoles are "simply very good DRM technologies".

[www.edge-online.com]

I'm disappointed that its for consoles :(
I knew Crytek decided to make multiplat game now, but I thought maybe that meant other games than crysis.

Honestly, if it affects the development or the quality of the final product I'll be pissed!

But then I might be able to run it on my current PC, so that might be a redeeming factor.. lol

Anyway, no plans to get it for PS3 here.
And it seems a bit stupid to release the second one on consoles when the first one wasn't. And considering that most people who get console don't have top of the line PCs, I think it's fair to assume a lot of them won't have played the original.

Kinda beats the points of a trilogy, no?

@abort_user: "piracy is everywhere. its on the consoles and has always been on consoles."

The PS3 says "hi". It also says that it hates it when people say that their counterpoint would like to issue a greeting when in fact the example involved has not even been consulted on the matter in hand, even more so when the person who says that they say "hi" fails to put the erroneous quote in quotation marks.

Crytek are a successful dev, they are also a very high profile case of a dev that suffered from piracy on a massive scale.

If Crysis was such a mediocre game how come it garnered so much attention from critics, pirates and genuine purchasers? You're entitled to your opinion of course, but don't try and state it as a fact.

Crytek are not neccessarily alienating their fan base. They are attempting to expand it beyond elitist PC enthusiasts who only use the game as a method of benchmarking their PC. Not one Crysis post can be made anyware without someone posting about how they got whatever fps on their such and such spec machine. If I was a Crytek dev, I'd be tempted to look beyond that fanbase too.

You haven't seen one frame of animation from Crysis 2 yet you are presiding as judge jury and executioner over the whole project. How about you wait and see what CryEngine 3 can do cross platform before you hold the wake?

I for one applaud any and all attempts to push titles multiplatform. If only because the sound of whining little fanboys wailing and gnashing their teeth as they are abandoned by their developers is music to my ears. Only a fool or an idiot would turn down a slice of the console market. Especially when the axeman lurks around every quarter and no company is 100% safe.

Oh and finally before you go touting Valve as the second coming again remember that TF2 and Left 4 Dead are available on Xbox 360 and that Halflife 2 came out on the original Xbox they are hardly the PC purists you seem to think they are.

ThursdayNext

@Raziel66: Hmm…It's easy to get lost in the misinformation then. Maybe I will pick it up.

You haven't seen RROD yet...wait until this game launches lol.

1080 p on the 260? are ppl dumb? 1080p sucks compared to pc resolutions man....pc gamers can go wayyy beyond 1080....also, pc is the man platform. this game is designed for pc, 360 and ps3 will have the dx9 version of it while pc users wil have access to the dx10...but agin, as i said before, the cry engine 3 is not as good as the cry engine 2

cmoyano

obvioulsy the pc version will be a lot...a lot better...however, cry engine 3 does not seem to be as good as cry engine 2....thus the reason they are able to use it in consoles...crysis is still the standard for pc gaming...if your computer can play crysis you can play any other game out there....maybe am wrong about cry engine 3, but i nmy opinion it didnt look as good as cry engine 2....

cmoyano

@robpe36: Not necesarily, they can make it only look worse in consoles, I mean consoles are the ones that are not able to run crysis graphics, PC gamers shouldt be getting worse graphics because of consoles.

@deanbmmv: Developing for the 360 is extremely similar to developing for PC.

Just a little tidbit for you.

CasteelGilmore

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Controllers are great, they do a lot of things really well and they're much better for a lot of genres than the kb+m but kb+m are better for FPS definitively, you can't mach the precision of the mouse with analogue sticks no matter how hard you try. You just can't and that's the reason many console FPS games have an auto-aim, be it obvious or slight, to make up for the lack of precision.

Also, how can you label the ability to custom map controls to what works for you as bad design? What I consider "bad design" is that even with this current generation of consoles, most games still do not allow the player to map out the controls just as they want and force people into using variations of different control schemes that the developers decide will suit you best rather than letting you, the player, decide what's best.

-MasterDex-

@-MasterDex-: the shooter in crysis feltm ore realistic than games like CoD4, especially the amount of recoil and the way the damages worked. I hate how CoD4 is based on whether or not your gun shoots more bullets in less time than your enemy. thats not skill, shooting someone in the back and having them die without a chance to turn around is skill. crysis lakced thatm but wars fixed it

Kougeru Matsuoka

@DukeOfPwn: Might need more ram... kick it up to at least 4 gigs if you have 64-bit windows...

I run Crysis well too, but my graphics card is an HD4870

MiltoxBeyond

crysis was the best fps i played and most unique, multiplayer really fun when no one cheats. however im disappointed in this. judging from the tech demo videos of cryengine 3, the viewing scale is utter crap and hte graphics are definately dumbed down. i hope the PC version will look at least as good as the first game, and tho the game's best part was the gameplay (if u had any skill), this is still disappointing. it will be lame on consoles unless they change the control scemes a lot, ive used the 360 controller a few times and it was horrible. Crysis is meant for PCs, when they said the franchise would stay on PC...they should've kept it that way. i foresee the console versions getting far worse reviews

Kougeru Matsuoka

At least it will be 1080p on the 360.

@AnthonM2: Dead Space Extraction. Move along.

ThursdayNext

@Schokobaer: what about "if it's funny to play" ? ;)

Rob_Nomad

@SpokenWithInk: Oh man i loled, logged in just to say comment of bloody week! haha

zgnoud

@PenitentPenguin: for the most i really hate your sentiment. i said it in the post before.

valve and all the other successful pc devs (some indies included) all say hi.

theres a reason crysis didnt sell that well. it was medicore game that could barely run on most computers.

piracy is everywhere. its on the consoles and has always been on consoles. even the famicom disk system had rampant piracy. there are websites dedicated specifically to pirating nintendos newer games! you could pirate ps2 games! hell i load some of my games off my ps2 hdd no mod needed.

the reason it helps with sales is because pc gaming has always been a niche market and NOW that consoles are getting MORE popular devs are shifting their focus (and alienating their original fanbase).

get your sentiment out of your ass because its got you thinking youre in a different world

abort_user

@Sir-Lucius: It's comfortable if you sit perfectly straight, line yourself up against it and use it right. Control pads on the other hand aren't so restrictive and are FUN to use. It is more accurate and precise but the keyboard layout is NOT designed with gaming in mind. It's why they need to have the games controls fully customisable. Sounds more like bad design to me, controller sensitivity could easily be increased to make the cursor move faster and if people find it that hard to make a cursor move right when all it takes is the moving of an analogue then I wonder why. The only difference between a mouse and an analogue is that the mouse has more room to move so it can be moved more accurately but if the sensitivity was made just right on a console then it should be fine.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@Drew Blake Hall: I haven't played Daggerfall but Morrowind was admittedly much better than others. It just irks me that their otherwise amazing games are marred by poor modeling and lazy animation.

Sir-Lucius

@kidjesus: You could've turned the voice off in the game settings you know... or changed it to a soothing Star Trek-esque computer voice.

AErikson

@robpe36:

WRONG! you should see their highly scalable demo of CryENGINE3, it was build to support 360 and PS3 to the MAX.

The demos look beautiful, just amazing, so on each platform you'll get maximum quality allowed by the platform.

Virussz

@Sir-Lucius: Because they're using the outdated Gamebryo engine. If they upgraded to another engine, we wouldn't have such a problem. And not every one, have you played Daggerfall or Morrowind?

Drew Blake Hall

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Never mind the fact that there keyboards designed for gaming and keyboards designed to be ergonomically comfortable for extended use. You can remap anything on a keyboard and completely customize the controls to be comfortable for you, especially if you have a keyboard with macros. And I've been playing console games since before I started PC gaming, but a keyboard and mouse combo is more precise and more accurate than a controller. Hell, Epic said one of the problems they encountered when porting Gears to PC was getting the controls to handle right since so much was automated on the consoles. Same reason games like Resistance don't support keyboard and mouse controls even though the PS3 fully does - keyboards and mice are more accurate than controllers, and when comparing two equally skilled players, gives an inherit advantage to the player with the kb+m setup.

@fELIXADER: The opposite holds true though. PC games have been getting dumbed down to accommodate console versions of games. I think all curly haired boy was trying to say is that Crytek will make sure to take the time to optimize the game for PC gamers, which will just by the nature of the capabilities of PC's, make that version the "definitive" version of the game. No dumbing down of the console versions is required, just making sure to optimize the PC version and deliver on what the platform is capable of is all.

Sir-Lucius

@King of Fun UK: Other than Warhead running a bit smoother I found overall I liked Crysis better. IMO Crysis had a more interesting story and better set piece battles.

Crytek, please get some better writers, when Psycho starts crying in Warhead I LOL'd. Please, he kills a tons of people but suddenly becomes Mr. Weepy when the one guy dies. Also, the ending for both games was terrible.

zardoz555

@Scott J: I've seen the new Cryengine running, so have many others and they showed off the console version, it looked slightly less detailed than the PC version and was certainly not running at 60fps or 1080p.

Now, I'm not trying to shit on consoles, I love that Crytek have optimized the engine so well that they can put the sequal on consoles but the fact remains that aside from a select few titles, most of which aren't graphically astounding, 1080p @ 60FPS on current generation consoles is very, very hard to achieve and as I said if Killzone is running at 720p @ 30FPS, it's highly unlikely that Crysis 2 will run any better.

-MasterDex-

triology?

acidspunk

So..
To play this one you will have to buy a $5000000 PC or take your console and meld it with a Dawsons creek Trapper Keeper 5000 inorder to get 20fps out of it???
And who will be the graphics card sponser this time around......

Crypysmoker

@Stuart Bradley Newsom: So they have no chance of running it...except they're putting it on consoles. And to top it off it won't even be playable according to you? I suppose Crytek would disagree.

Cry engine 3 will be a downgrade now? Sure, sure. I bet Crytek were planning on making the sequel worse on PC too.

There's going to be so little difference I won't care. In the end I've heard people use the 'downgraded' argument too much and try and act like games are inferior. Like if a PS3 game went to 360 with 2 polygons less they could call it inferior. You act like optimizing it is a bad thing even though everything game has to be optimized for each system or they wouldn't work due to different architectures etc. That's why when they port a game they can't do it instantly.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@PenitentPenguin:
I t think he was getting at the fact that Crytek have Their original PC studio and recently bought Free Radical(A PS3 studio) so they currently have no studio with 360 skill's.
I don't think he was talking about the technical side of either console.

@Combine: Ugh, keep the puzzles out my FPS.

Nothing is worse than those horrible tacked on puzzles. "I wonder why they gave me super strength? Oh, because everytime I encounter this symbol on the wall I have to punch it to get to the next secret area."

Fuck that. I hate that...

Raziel66

@fELIXADER: Ahhh I see, I understand what you were trying to say now. Still, there's no denying that graphically speaking, the PC will be the superior version, but that's practically a given with a game on both PC and consoles.

-MasterDex-

@firstworldgamer…dood: Crysis is playable on just about everything... the problem though is that everyone just wants to run it on max. Buy it and just set it to something your computer can handle.

Raziel66

@jasonliang: Mind elaborating on what is bullshit and what isn't?

@Optimaximal: You post is total horseshit. There was nothing wrong with what KommanderKeith said and none of what he said was horse-shit.

-MasterDex-

@V1L3: Seriously dude. The character modeling and animations are both seriously lacking in nearly all (read EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of Bethesda's games.

Sir-Lucius

@kidjesus: I loved that voice. Made it feel like an action hero changing from one mode to the other.

noppiN

@PenitentPenguin: Still wonder why people say that all the time while those, who actually work on the thing, are always cursing the machine a pain in the ass to develop for. ^^

@Horusz: valve and the long list of successful pc developers say hi. there are indie devs greeting you!

*puts on eyepatch and sails across the seas*

abort_user

What most of you didn't even consider is the fact THAT NO PC IS THE SAME. That means whatever you try every piece of hardware out there HAS SOMETHING that differs from the machine of your neighbour, something that is not the case by consoles.

So instead off bringing the engine to work through millions of different versions wich the program could collide with, those who work on the consoleversions can concentrate on the matter to push up the details (Technicly, gameplaywise or artisticly) of the game in a way that it still can look absolutely awesome on those said consoles.

Ultimately i don't understand why you declare the company, that you are probably a fan of, as incompetent and not wise enough to put that up on other machines that the million different PCs.

@V1L3: no. he is very right.

play Fear on the pc. then play Fear 2. believe one of the many examples can be seen here:

+ Watch video

also play System Shock 2 on the pc then play Bioshock. the difference is night and day (but that ones strictly game play and mechanics).

theres more. but still hung over.

abort_user

@PenitentPenguin: so what do you do for living?

feathers4sale

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Oh sorry, one problem with your post........the engine was optimized since Cryengine 2. Consoles had no possibility of running such a game in a remotely playable format.

Now that Cryengine 3 is out, consoles have a chance to play a slightly down-graded version.

PC fanboys aren't butt hurt. They are only stating to Console fanboys that even though Crysis 2 is coming to the consoles. It doesn't mean nothing was dumbed down just to do it. There is a thing in which they did to make it so for the consoles. Its called 'Optimization'. Something that so many games that were ported from consoles to PC's seem to forget.....go figure.

Stuart Bradley Newsom

@-MasterDex-: I was beeing sarcastic.

That Crysis doesn't turn their back at the PC is already mentioned in the article. To me Curlys Comment appeared that way that they should't put too much effort in the console releases.
I know a PCMachine can increse the use of the graphics through stronger hardware updates, but this comment up there kinda sounds like a demmand to hold down the quality of the Consoleversions, just so that the PCGames can look superior. Please, just for a moment, consider it a reality hat A LOT if not the majority had its Problems with the high tech that you needed for Crysis.

On the PC that means you have to turn down stuff like wideview, texture quality and stuff alike.
All i just wanted to say is that EVERY Gamer, independend wich platform he chooses, should get the ultimative version for his money.
And such versions does not come up if someone demands total superiority against other systems.

I mean this says "If i can't (Or: I Have to)get the best, then anyone else should get worse." And this is one of the worst way to behave.

It should be: "I hope everyone gets the ultimate fun!"

That is why i got jumpy on this comment. Anger is not in my hearth on such things. ^^

@MaXimillion: I know Billy Joe Bob? Maybe they are dumbing down.........the graphics?

Stuart Bradley Newsom

@-Hairball-:
Console: "But can you do this?"
*Flashes you with a red ring of death

PC: "Oh yeah? take this!"
*Flashes back with a blue screen of death

(O'.'O)

feathers4sale

@-Hairball-: Yeah, but on console it is guaranteed to work.

@supo Seriously though, this kind of thing can happen. It's almost inevitable, the controller just can't perform as many actions as a keyboard and mouse, nor can analog sticks match the accuracy and speed of a mouse. You are almost guaranteed to have a dumbed down control scheme and easier AI unless they pay special attention to the PC version (which most multi-platform devs do not). Which is a shame, really..

Erm wasnt crysis optimized to work with a xbox 360 for windows contoller from the get go? I believe it was. So take your dumbed down argument else where and easier a.i wtf are you on? did u ever play killzone on elite? I love my mouse and keys and as an aiming system it is unparralelled but a controller can be almost as satisfying and in fact, having all your buttons together can be easier than having to stretch your thumb half way across the keyboard mid fire fight. Dont forget its possible that the ps3 version may even support mouse and keys anyway.

digi7al

@Detre: I never said it wasn't true, what I posed though was a simple question to put the topic onto a better perspective. The question being 'but do you honestly think the sequel to the best looking game so far is going to look bad just because it'll be on consoles?'.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@MercerCh00x: There's a mod that recreates the Killzone 2 E3 video in Crysis. The crysis side looks tons better, ignoring the character models that is. ;)

Stuart Bradley Newsom

@DukeOfPwn: yay, now if only it were a good game!

@Black-Dog-Howls: Its an undeniable fact that all we have seen of CryEngine 3 was the Console capabilities and not the PC capabilities.

Maybe if you stopped being a PC fanboy and started speaking about things that will promote PC gaming and not killing it.

In complete honesty, we have not seen the new features in which will be on the PC side of Cryengine 3. Now stfu and let the clear thinking PC gamers talk.

Stuart Bradley Newsom

@V1L3: You're too much today man. Call you butter cos you're on a roll!

/joke

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: Except for the fact that what he said was true? Of course the game will look great on consoles, but itll never look better then it will on a PC. Thats a fact. No matter how much console gamers want it to not be.

Detre

@V1L3: I c wut u did thar. *Cues horrible music with visuals of caffeine junkie adults sneaking* You win 3 internetz sir.

@DukeOfPwn: i don't know, instead of frame lag on PC now you get frame lag in Xbox (or PS3 whichever you prefer) ... lol

PC don't run Crysis, Crysis runs PC.

feathers4sale

Great news for console owners.

D0RC

@aaj111: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I await that day.

I will not give a shit about a game of this graphical calibre on a console until we get anti-aliasing.

@Jim81Jim: How do you dumb down an FPS the major selling point of which was graphics?

@bluem4gic: Seeing how technically poor Free Radical were on the PS3, you better hope they didn't help with the console versions

I'm in yur PC, dumbin down yur Crisis!

(lol fanboys)

V1L3

@KommanderKeith: Proof or it didn't happen - What total horse-shit.

Optimaximal

@jasonliang: it was tacked on to the end just as something that peeves me off and not part of the main argument. But either way it was kind of relevant to how I'd enjoy it on consoles without the might kb/m.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@BULArmy:Well, I hope YOU version is buggy too!

V1L3

@Hraesvelgr: "Well, I don't see how TESV could look worse, since Oblivion is out on the current gen consoles. Then again, after seeing Fallout 3, I kind of have to wonder if Bethesda will make many graphical improvements. Or any improvements."

The biggest area for improvement in the Elder Scrolls series would be animation. Seriously, there are PS1 games with better animation than Oblivion.

V1L3

@putch: LOL! Maybe they'll get Al Gore to do it.

You know, because he's super cereal about everything. :D

@randomrawr: Couldn't have said it better myself. Very truthful and insightful friend :D

@DarCowAlways: Find*. Curses.

@Refused: Eh, the graphics settings that test was conducted on were not high enough to be a conclusive test. Still an interesting fine, though.

@BULArmy: HAHAHAHAHA! Dumb ass fanboys make me laugh.

@Ariakkan: That's some good ol' PC elitist butthurt right there! :P

@SpokenWithInk: Hah, they could call it PS3 SLI or 360 Crossfire.

@jasonliang:
I blame Wikipedia!!

@Crux117: So if you have spent money on your pc to get it more powerfull for crysis then it`s already gonna look better,play smoother than the 360 version?It takes a relatively low power pc to top a 360.
Unless by spending money you mean upgrading your 486 to a pentium 4 pc with an mx440.
My old pc which my kids use now plays crysis maxed out at over 60fps on their 1280x1024 res 19inch monitor and Mass effect on my 360 is painfull to play after playing it on even their pc, never mind my new pc (18 month old).You will be lucky to get a steady 30fps even with the 360s highly compressed textures,lower resolution,lower polygons and shorter view distance.

@SansSanity: and a PS3 neither

abcFRAG

what they aren't telling you is that Crysis requires BOTH the PS3 and 360, running at the same time, connected together, to run the game.

/ohsnap

Eric Marty

@raz0r81ad3: I don't know you but I play higher than that.

3360x1050 vs 1920x1080

jasonliang

@fELIXADER:Yea, I find it strange that everyone is a "EXPERT". Tons of bullshit going around.

jasonliang

@supo: Yeah I love it when the keyboard acts like a slab of buttons that 60% go unused and it's a matter of tapping a piece of hardware designed for word processing and not gaming. It's not comfortably designed for gaming but it just happens to be able to be used that way. The mouse is good but I don't see that alone making the PC awesome. Face it, your just used to PC so you bitch about pads that are ergonomically designed and made from the ground up for gaming.

The AI wouldn't have to be easier, just slower if anything was changed at all but then that would only compensate the speed of the analogue being slower than the mouse so it'd be no less difficult a game. Sure the 360 and PS3 versions won't be able to get quite as good graphics as PC but when your chucking out tons of cash just to have an upgraded system then isn't that the point?

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

@King of Fun UK: I **loved** the first Crysis (still haven't gotten around to Warhead though, strangely), but I really, really, REALLY could've done without that movie announcer voice enthusiastically confirming my suit settings throughout the game. I don't want a talking car, and sure as hades don't want a talking suit.

So I'm definitely looking forward to 2, and definitely hoping they tone down the confirmations. Maybe just drop the "MAXIMUM"...

kidjesus

@-MasterDex-: Nobody has seen the new CryEngine or knows what it is capable of so ponder all you want. Your guess is as good as the next guys.

Scott J

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:

Wow great job, how the hell did this go from graphics to flaming keyboard and mouse.

jasonliang

@ieatchocolate:

You can turn the suit voice off.

@Kalamaty: I know there's a lot of butt hurt PC fanboys but come on. If it couldn't play on consoles they wouldn't put it on so just accept that the game can be run by consoles with only minimal graphical difference. I know nerds love to chuck out specs like frames per second and the resolution but do you honestly think the sequel to the best looking game so far is going to look bad just because it'll be on consoles?

PC fanboys underestimate consoles every time and it makes me face palm to listen to them claim the mouse and keyboard is godly.

xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx

crysis on the 360? is it going to be rendered in powerpoint?

@Winterbringer: aaah so you mean it was unoptimised!

@Combine: CLOAKING WAS USELESS??????????? Are you joking? You cant play the game without cloaking in the hardest dificulty. It is the ability I used %90 of the time.

If you mean multiplayer, It is also not true. They have a lot o work to do in multiplayer btw, big CTF maps are really fun, but team deatmatch sucks. Too much chaos!

Jesus Christ, this is what I hate about the so called "Hardcore Gamers". It's always about the "Awesome Graphics" and if a game doesn't meet their expectations or if it doesn't feature photo realism or HD resolutions, then it instantly sucks and is a piece of shit. You aren't gamers at all with that shallow and pathetic and sad train of thought.

Sure graphics are cool to look at but they by no means make the game. The story and gameplay do and graphics comes last. I take it that these gamers that only like games for the eye candy are also shallow with their women and can never get involved in a stable relationship because they just want every "hot" girl they see without actually knowing the person on an intellectual level first.

@PenitentPenguin's "more" to the Department of Redundant Prefixes Department. ;-)

ThursdayNext

i wonder if crysis 2 would run better on my gateway fx (nvidia 8800m gts, 2.2 core 2 duo, 4 gigis) or ps3 or 360? i guess i'll have to wait and see.

jslizzle

@SpokenWithInk: I wish i could do that... save me all the hassles trying to convert an arcade stick to work for multiple consoles

xyzl

@robpe36: Maybe, maybe not... Point of consoles is that they can optimise it to look exactly how THEY want it to for everyone.

For PC, how good that looks depends on the person's technicalities skills and wealth skills...

xyzl

@fELIXADER: I sense a lot of uncalled anger in your post. All Curly Boy was saying was that Crytek won't turn their backs on their PC fanbase (you know, the ones that made them the company they are today) just because they're releasing it on consoles. Chill dude.

-MasterDex-

@-Hairball-: Exactly Hairball. DukeOfPwn can run Crysis perfectly fine at medium settings np for that ~50 FPS average @ 1920x1200. And if/when he decides to add a second video card (or one with a gig of ram), or in Crysis' case more CPU power with an i7, the game will look even better. And on medium, it would still look fantastic.

Consoles will be running @ 1280x720 (like most (all?) current gen console games) with low-ish settings. Your PC currently listed will look better then what consoles get, 100% guaranteed.

I would much prefer Crysis' plan of make it runnable on low for lots of people, medium-high for current gamers, and extreme for ridiculously cutting edge enthusiasts. And then a year later, high->extreme for most gamers.

Plus think of the meme creation :/

Kalamaty

@Combine: I used all the different powers quite a lot and still do when I play Wars which is quite an easy game to get the hang of in my opinion, but I've been a big Battlefield fan for a while so Power Struggle seemed natural to me.

The cloak was extremely useful, I even played through the full game cloaking and being stealthy and picking off targets with headshots and so forth. The strength ability powered up your guns as well so it was useful in big battles and the added jump height you got is very useful in Power Struggle when trying to reach high vantage points, The speed was great for escaping when you got overwhelmed as well or just to get to a point that bit quicker.

But, maybe it's just me but I found quite a number of ways to be able play through the game and make each playthrough unique enough to enjoy it.

I will concede that there are better shooters out there (COD4 for example) but it's better than Halo 3 in my opinion.

@Cerabret100: The shooting wasn't great, I'll give you that. It has improved in Crysis Warhead and Wars though, although it still seems off compared to the likes of COD4.

It's a shame your friend was so anal about how you played the game. The whole point of the open ended style and different abilities was so people could play it different ways and sneaking around using the cloak can certainly be fun and as I said to Combine above, I played through the whole game like that in one playthrough.

-MasterDex-

@Cerabret100:

Well, the main reason I didn't like it was because the whole "Maximum this", "Maximum that" thing just seemed really retarded. Sure it was new, but it just didn't appeal to me.

I see what you mean about the shooting, I didn't play it long enough to notice, to be honest.

ieatchocolate

@BarbeQueQ: No, I only saw the CryEngine 3 tech demo.

So does it look worse?

@ieatchocolate: In that case, allow me to ask you something:

Did the shooting just seem...off or shitty to you? Maybe it's just me but something felt "wrong" about it.

I'm sure they went with "realistic" shooting (no pinpoint accuracy going 30mph), but i play R6:vegas 2 and CoD4, both games I've thought to be some of the most realistic games in terms of shooting accuracy and stuff without any problem.

Cerabret100

@Refused: Same.

@Cerabret100:

Exactly. Graphics aren't the main thing I care about in a game, and Crysis just doesn't have good enough gameplay to justify me caring about it.

ieatchocolate

@MaxS: I have. Have you?

BarbeQueQ

@-MasterDex-: well, unfortunately the shooting felt like shit to me.

So instead i sam fisher'd it through with cloak until my friend got all pissy saying "that's not how you're supposed to play it" in a super whiny voice untill i told him to fuck off and keep it (he was going to let me borrow it) while i go home and play HL2 and it's episodes all over again.

It's not fair to blacklist Crysis because of it, but it's like going to see what should have been the best movie in the world, only to have it ruined by some annoying asshole right next to you.

Cerabret100

@fELIXADER: God damit, edit Button please. ^^ Clean version:

Well just that you not have to bend your hands when you actually want to use those actions

And well using hundreds of buttons inside a game (that is not a simulator) for actions i will not call a plus or a positive point, on both keyboard/mouse AND controller.

It is official this game with 80% chance to be bad. The game will be dumbed down because of the console noobs. And the PC verssion will also sux because it will be a port of 360, because the 360 will be the leading platform. And "yes" console fanboys we also can be fanboys when something ours it taken for us and made more lame for you and we suffer for that. I hope you version is buggy, with nasty frame rate and horrible controls.

BULArmy

@SpokenWithInk: Or you could have just one, but the guys at Crytek could develop an overclocking technique to make the game run more smoothly (similar to what's been done on the PSP).

Imagine, if you will, the game running at a crisp 1080p, with 60fps and a nice big ol' red countdown timer in the upper-left saying: "You console with evaporate in 17 seconds".

Now that would be fun. Not to mention the tension and frenzy it would introduce into the gameplay.

raz0r81ad3

@curly haired boy: Yeah, i mean what is the use of bringing good looking (and hopefully playable) games to ALL of their customers.

I mean, satisying everyone and giving AL of them something that is worth the mone is really a stupid idea, you know. Who needs people that will go on to buy your games cause you gave them good times.

....Pff, Gamers sometimes...

@Esper mind tricks: No, consoles will probably be on medium at best, it's very unlikely that consoles will be able to handle high settings at a steady framerate.

-MasterDex-

@supo: I don't think so. Crysis already supports cnotrollers on the PC version so I see no reason to think that the PC version will be gimped because of console controls.

-MasterDex-

@supo: Well just that you not havo bend your hads when you actually want to use those actions.

And well using hundreds of buttons inside a game for actions (that is not a simulator) i will not call a plus or a positive point on both, keyboard/mouse AND controller

@-MasterDex-: Not to mention many PS3 and 360 games are upscaled to reach 720p and 1080p. From what I understand it's mostly PSN and XBLA games that run native 720/1080p.

Sir-Lucius

@-MasterDex-: Also, compared to other FPS this generation it wasn't necessarily bad, it does beat some other FPS's. For sure. Then theres others which are by far a better more enjoyable experience.

Although I only played Crysis wars a few times and just never played it again after. I thought it was terrible. One of the key factors to a lot of FPS this generation is the multiplayer, and Crysis Wars just left me confused and irritated at times playing it. Although perhaps I didn't play it for long enough, but frankly I don't think a good FPS should force you to put a lot of hours into it before you can see why its fun, or atleast derive some sort of enjoyment from it.
E.g. L4D, TF2 and even Halo and COD even though I don't personally enjoy either of them.
They offer and shows people why exactly it can be a fun experience even from a short time spent with it.

@bluem4gic: I'd be willing to bet that the consoles would be on "high" and the PC would be able to scale to "very high."

Esper mind tricks

Wow a bunch of all knowing techexperts doe have here. Especially abou a game that hasn't even a release date.

I mean not even the ENGINE on wich it wll run has one, but everyone knows how it works and so on.

@supo: crytek will make sure the PC version is the definitive version, i have no doubts.

curly haired boy

@-MasterDex-: My main gripe with Crysis' gameplay was the suit felt useless and it offered no interesting fun puzzles like HL2, which it easily could have. The different modes for the suit didn't offer "different ways to play the game and overcome obstacles" like the box advertised.
They just all felt useless at times, and the strength aspect of the suit was definitely underutilised. I was expecting things to punch through and areas where I needed different suit functions to pass. That didn't exist.
As well as cloaking was useless.

Most of those things could have been fixed by giving the suit more energy though. Mainly cloak, because it would drain the power far too quickly for it to be of any use.

Really all I'm saying is the concept behind the suit was poorly executed and some puzzles utilising it wouldn't have gone astray, or felt out of place.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Spot on!

I never really got the argument 'motion blur makes it look so good by hiding the bad textures'.

You're saying the game WOULD look bad if it DIDN'T have it, but...it DOES have it...so the game DOES looks good. Whats the point of complaining about something that isn't there!?

Its hard to explain, but I think you guys can get it...:/

@robpe36: Well, yeah, for the console versions, sure, but I'd like to imagine that the PC version would look at least about the same as the first game.

@Skyburnbright: Well, I don't see how TESV could look worse, since Oblivion is out on the current gen consoles. Then again, after seeing Fallout 3, I kind of have to wonder if Bethesda will make many graphical improvements. Or any improvements.

@AnthonM2: Have you already seen part 2, then?

@SpikeWT: my bad read that wrong disregard last comment.

Cannot wait! The first half of Crysis was utter perfection.

Zootroy

@King of Fun UK: A new mode in Crysis 2 will be "MAXIMUM RISKY!". I'll leave the details to your imagination.

@coolguyface: How do you know it's overrated if you never played?

@MACH1ne: some of the controls on the controller need to be fixed but tyea it shouldn't be to hard.

p.s. the story was like somebody shit in a bucket.

@Jim81Jim: Any game that goes from keyboard/mouse to controller is dumbed down in my opinion :O

Seriously though, this kind of thing can happen. It's almost inevitable, the controller just can't perform as many actions as a keyboard and mouse, nor can analog sticks match the accuracy and speed of a mouse. You are almost guaranteed to have a dumbed down control scheme and easier AI unless they pay special attention to the PC version (which most multi-platform devs do not). Which is a shame, really..

supo

Yippie! :D

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: yeah, they'll just argue back and forth about how it'll look, which doesn't change the fact that it's a mediocre game.

Cerabret100

@Ariakkan:I would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those pesky consoles!

V1L3

First big thing I've heard from E3!

Good stuff.

Ollyh

@gaztrain:Fool. No one plays Crysis.

Crysis is like Salma Hayek. It's there to be looked at. NOT played with.

V1L3

@Jim81Jim: Its probably a pretty good fit for console. The ui already has a bit of a console feel to it.
Some games suffer from being both pc and console, some less so.

mrmud

@robpe36: It will look worse for sure.. Crysis wasn't as unoptimized as people would like to believe. What optimized the game was newer drivers from nVidia and ATI, and changes to settings in the engine. Those mods that look better than the vanilla crysis were nothing more than settings modifications, they lowered the quality on less noticeable effects while making up for it by improving the more noticeable ones. Which is also what they did with Warhead (and did a terrible job as it ran like a pig, worse than Crysis 1.2).

supo

@DollaBill:"PC gets held back and handicapped by consoles."

Orrrrrrrrr...

More copies sold = larger budget = more development time?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some nice graphics. But generally what I look for in a sequel is refined/better balanced gameplay, not just prettier visuals.

Take Mirror's Edge, for example. The PC version looks a lot nicer than the consoles, but for the sequel, I'd rather see a better combat system than birds and flags.

V1L3

Going multi sucks, Crytek sold to the $$$.
Too bad consoles exist tbh.

Ariakkan

@firstworldgamer…dood: It's quite scalable now. With an 8800GT, 3gb RAM and an intel Core2Quad 6400, I can play the game at high in 1680x1050 with 2xAA @ 35-45 FPS average with lowest dropping to 20FPS in the snowy areas with the same settings (turning off AA gets me a nice 35FPS in those same areas).

Warhead would probably be the best choice if you're worried about the performance of it on your machine though. It's much more optimized than the first game.

-MasterDex-

@Winterbringer: oh no a spelling mistake that must mean everything I said is wrong.

Or you could have no reasoning behind what you are saying so you nitpick rather then use real arguments.

Crysis 1 sees a huge performance boost with the newer engines, an d the newer engines don't even require Dx10 to do it.

You could actually look into the matter, or you could just repeat things you have read from fanboy posts on forums

@[media.bestofmicro.com]

So unless there is a lot of optimisation for the cell there won't be that much difference in the CPU area (although the PS3 will still come on top the difference will be small). And the 360 has superior graphics power (the difference again is very small.)

So I have very little reason to believe they will be different.

Never did like Crysis, overrated.

coolguyface

@V1L3: i r teh sucks at grahmawrs =*[

Aww shucks, you mean I actually get to play this one?

@Combine: What was bad about the gameplay and how do you think it compares to other FPS this generation?

-MasterDex-

@PenitentPenguin:Not to belabour the point, but the term "more graphically superior" is redundant.

Carry on.

V1L3

@Refused: Agreed. It's got great gameplay in it and the games are very movieesque in their story telling, I'll still never forget that blockbuster hollywood ending of the first game.

-MasterDex-

I can picture it now. 3 years into the future, new consoles are announced on Gizmodo/Lifehacker. Then a comment: "Yeah, Xbox720/PS4. Looks great... BUT WILL IT RUN CRYSIS 2?!"

@Horusz: Does that mean that the developers get paid on the way back?
HARHARHAR.

@SpokenWithInk: Well the article did say it was coming to pc aswell as ps3 AND xbox 360. Maybe it means it will only be available to those who can connect the xbox AND playstation together to run Crysis 2 :P

@BarbeQueQ: We can only hope. The CryEngine is a great engine, even to work with, and even though it had some problems when it was first released, Crytek have done a great job improving it.

If it does happen, we'll all have to give a big cheer for the end of shitty texture streaming.

-MasterDex-

@MercerCh00x: I can't see the PS3 or the 360 version being able to run the game at 30fps at 1080, there's still very few games that can pull it off and if Killzone 2 running 720p@30fps, it's almost a certainty that Crysis 2 will run the same.

-MasterDex-

@Winterbringer: While yes, Crysis is 'beyond every other game' in terms of visual awe, it still doesn't mean it's the most wonderfully crafted piece of software. It is bloated and resource-heavier than it should be, hence the term "unoptimised" fits Crysis very well... Regardless if people who spout off nonsense just to rag on the game know what it means or not.

SSUK

@Musouka: You don't need a monster to top a console.

@MACH1ne:

Only got Crysis today. But I liked Sykes from Warhead - his charming English accent anyway hah.

@DukeOfPwn: You'll be able to run it better than a console could.

@PenitentPenguin:
You came across as a bit of a douche there.
I just invested in an i7 system, 2x GTX275s, 6gb ram etc etc. And Crysis is beautiful!

@Poul Wrist: Oh, I believe you. Sadly, I'm stuck with a Macbook Pro running Windows XP SP2 in Boot Camp. It's great for playing source engine games, and peggle nights, but nothing else really. It'll do for my TF2 and L4D and HL2, etc. Oh, and audiosurf.

Sadly, no Crysis T__T

@PenitentPenguin: I could too if I was running DX9 low settings.

@Winterbringer: No, those who are saying the first engine was unoptimized are spot on. Pre 1.2, the original Crysis was terribly optimized, after the release of 1.2, they managed to optimize it quite a bit, especially the AA, but it still pales in comparision performance-wise to the optimised albeit toned-down engine used in Warhead.

The new Cryengine that will be used for Crysis 2 will have further optimizations although it will be toned down even more than the Warhead engine. Of course, It should still look great on a good PC and it'll probably have similiar graphical capabilities of the engine Ubisoft used for Far Cry 2.

-MasterDex-

@Winterbringer:
when they announced cryengine3 they said that graphics were scalable, making it possible to get superquality or normal quality without affecting the game a lot.
that means graphics on pc will still kick ass, even if the xbox version can barely get to the pcs knees

RonTom

@robpe36: To answer your question. Depends what your expirence with Crysis 1 was like. If you played on low setting- then you will be amazed with the difference in detail- if you lpayed the game like me- with max settings- there wil lbe a few differences- but nothing that you will really be able to tell.

As for people freaking out about the if the game will "Run" on the consoles- the answer is YES!
The cry 2 engine was made FROM THE GROUND UP for consoles. The reason crysis on PC- Or any Pc game for the matter- is you have to plan for differences in hardware configurations. With the ps3 and 360- you know what your limitations are- So in the end you will sacrafice MINOR graphical differences- and give up better physics/textures- but for trading these in- you will get stability.

either way- it may not look as good as it does on PC-
but it will still look damn good.

@firstworldgamer…dood: A 600$ PC would run it fine in max detail.

Poul Wrist

@PenitentPenguin: Nice job living up to your name…dood.

color me excited!! Ive spent way too much money tryin to get my PC to run Crysis at better framerates. Ill stick with my 360, thanks!

Crux117

@DollaBill: Developers need money too, It is not their fault every game gets pirated to hell and back.

Horusz

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Truer words have never been spoken. Thank you. •_•!

Whoa Whoa, hold up now everyone. Who cares if it looks better or worse. Lets just hope the game play is actually good this time.

@PenitentPenguin: Then you weren't running it on high settings or you're just a liar.

Winterbringer

I would love to play the first Crysis, but I feel intimidated by the specs. :(

Maybe this Crysis 2 deal will let me see what these Germans are up to. :)

What Crysis lacked wasnt graphics or atmosphere; it lacked a damn good story with strong characters. They should work more on that than graphics.

BTW Crysis is already playaable with a contoller, so ı dont think porting it would be a problem gameplaywise...

Well I'm sure some fanboys (graphics whores) will get their panties in a twist (they always do with these kind of games e.g Killzone 2)

The fact of the matter is there wont be much to talk about really.

Cryengine v3 (which is really v2 ported to consoles) is very scalable obviously PS3/360 versions wont look like maximum detail version on PC or look like lowest settings either it will be somewhere in the middle.

Also anyone who think that the PC version is being held back is out of their god dam mind, its amazing there are any developers left like Crytek that would spend the money of that level of graphics for a PC game, considers yourselves lucky.

Jellocakes

@KommanderKeith: I don't think people who call Crysis "unoptimised" know what they are talking about.

Crysis doesn't run well because it's beyond every other game and still is. It's just producing so many effects that most GPU's can't keep up that well.

It was ahead of its time and still is. There is no game that looks better.

Winterbringer

@StarFox9000: I have an Ati 4870 with 1GB, an Intel Core 2 Quad Processor, and 6 GB of ram and I only get about 20-30 fps. I think my problem is Ati though :(

Crux117

@Kermad: Hey everyone! Did you hear that?

Killzone 2 looks good because they wanted it to look good!

Shocking, I know.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@robpe36: well, only if they haven't refined the engine in 2 years, which i suppose they have

For the most part yes.
It's unfortunate.

The reason is because it has such a small market share, and the rampant piracy forces devs. who seem to be "PC exclusive" to release, sure fire console versions.

It's been main practice to release multi-platform games on the consoles first..then on PC.

It helps with sales.

@SpokenWithInk: Great comment :D Someone should really try doing that, BTW :P

@Joshua Orr: I guess its not for everyone, but I always thought the gameplay was the best part about it, not even the graphics compare.

I guess running around really fast, jumping up cliffs, smashing things and blowing stuff up isn't for everyone. Thats why you can also turn on camouflage and take it the sneaky approach.

Its a really cool FPS in my eyes, but fair enough that you don't like it.

@bluem4gic: You can see the PS3 version decent but not so sure about the 360 version?

haha..oh you..
I guarantee the the Cry Engine will run THE SAME on both consoles.

Just because the ps3 is more pricey in no way means it can "output" better graphics- It certainly has the advantage because of the cell processor and larger storage capacity on the Blu-ray discs- but in terms of graphics-it's not better than the 360. The fact of the matter is- the Xbox 360 is more graphically Superior to the PS3 because it has the larger texture cache AND has better, faster, stronger game shaders.
But the ps3 out does the 360 in computational and physics based tasks.

So what does that mean for Crysis 2? well- it means that the 360 will perform better in areas with more lighting + Foliage + Fast moving graphics,
as where the ps3 will out due the 360 in physics based things (Think large pools of water, blowing up buildings)

but fact of the matter is..it will be such a small difference- you guys wont really be able to tell the difference..

Trust me..this is what i do for a living.

PC gets held back and handicapped by consoles.

DollaBill

I have still yet to play the first one, I'm looking forward to seeing CryEngine 3 in action :D

@robpe36:
There's still a PC version, and that of course means that the sequel will at least look as good as the original.

cqdemal

Yeah the games look pretty, its just a shame they have awful gameplay. Excuse me for being a little apathetic towards this, multiplatform or not.

Joshua Orr

I think Crysis 2 will look better than Crysis 1 but the console versions won't.

Getting this on PC without a doubt. Just completed Crysis Warhead myself, thought it was awesome.

@Black-Dog-Howls: Finally someone who can see that the motion blur is covering the poor texture quality

@MercerCh00x: Crysis on high makes kitten's heads explode and babies cry blood on sight...

StarFox9000

Is this the 1st game in the history of video games that part 2 looks worse than part 1?

AnthonM2

I'm not looking forward to these PC/Console fanboy shitstorms at all.

Well, maybe a bit.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@MercerCh00x: Killzone 2 has a lot post processing. That spray paint of looking good. Like gloss on a piano.

Black-Dog-Howls

@Schokobaer: Agreed (1080 would be good).

It may not look as gorgeous as Crysis but that doesn't mean it won't be eye candy. If it runs smooth on the consoles I can see it replacing the UE3 in the near future.

BarbeQueQ

@PenitentPenguin: Well aren't you just a douche?

StarFox9000

@PenitentPenguin: Then how come I can't? I have a 9800 GT with 512 MB, a Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz, and 2 G of ram!

DukeOfPwn

@robpe36: I'm sure they will add some extra options to the PC version that will make it look better than the console versions.

The new engine might be designed to make stuff run on consoles, but that does not necessarily mean that it will be incapable of producing visuals that the current generation of consoles can't handle.

milford

@robpe36: crysis 1 was horribly unoptimized which is why you need a good computer for it.

the new engines are way better. You can even make a mod folder for crysis warhead, and put in the crysis game files and run the game in the newer engine. The game will run better on lower spec computers

@Black-Dog-Howls: Well killzone 2 looks really good.....not quite as good as Crysis but I can't imagine that much of a drop in graphics.

Still only a purchase for me on the PC

It's nice that they have made it for the console crowd this time round. Probably with help of the newly formed Crytek UK studio (Free Radicals)

I can see the PS3 version decent however the 360 version I am not so sure. Let's see what happens

bluem4gic

Well, @robpe36: Unless you chose to play it on a monster PC, that is.

as long as I can snipe people on the other side of the map with my rail gun. I'm okay.

kitsuneconundrum

@Jim81Jim: Well, it's an undeniable fact. CryEngine 3 looks no where near as robust as CryEngine 2 did.

Black-Dog-Howls

If it runs well on a PS3, i'll consider picking this one up.

@SpokenWithInk: ROFL

@DukeOfPwn: I don't know about you, but I have always been able to run Crysis 45 - 65 FPS.Always, ever since it launched.

@robpe36: Yep.

Just like how Elder Scrolls V is going to look worse than Oblivion if it comes out for current gen consoles.

Skyburnbright

Will you have to tie (3) PS3/360s together in order to play it?

@robpe36: Exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't seem like the 360 would be able to run Crysis 1 very well

SansSanity

"MAXIMUM STRENGTH!"

"MAXIMUM SPEED!"

Well, this is great news. I did prefer Crysis Warhead over the original, but I'll definitely be picking this one up.

Que PC users talking smack about dumbing down the franchise to fit it on a console in 3....2....1....

Jim81Jim

Wow so if Crysis 2 is being made for consoles, that means Crysis 2 is going to look worse than Crysis 1?

robpe36

Yay, a Crysis people can actually run well!

DukeOfPwn

@SpikeWT:

The story really isn't that bad. It's Raiders of the Lost Ark, if you replace the Nazis with Koreans, the Ark of the Covenant with Aliens, and Indy with Nomad/Psycho.

@AErikson: Dagnabbit, my inherent lack of curiosity when it comes to poking around game settings has screwed me again. Thanks for the tip, I'll keep it in mind when I play through before 2 comes out.

kidjesus

So the gameplay is shit because it doesn't force you to use any power in key areas (Aka scripting) but lets you choose your style of play without any restrictions? There is enough use for any suitpower, you just have to know how to use them. For example, cloaking only makes sense as sniper or if you try to run away from the bad guys.Jumping on a rooftop with strenght mode and sniping everyone from there with cloak? How many games let you do that in SP mode?

SeemantiniTurdus

@ThursdayNext: Not particularly, you can notice the difference between 30fps and 60fps and having a game running 200fps (L4D in my case) is when you get to the point where things become unnoticeable), I'd definitely rather play a game at 60fps than 30fps but all the same, if 30fps is all I get then that's fine with me. I'm more concerned about a consistent fps than a high fps.

-MasterDex-

@PenitentPenguin: Really? Thats awesome. I would love to ask you some questions about L4D2, but I doubt you're allowed to answer.

@jasonliang: Two 1680x1050 monitors, nice. Would still go for 1920x1200 myself (just easier, with plenty of space).

Whats the performance like with Crysis on very high on that resolution?

@DarCowAlways: They did that deliberately. They weren't testing the graphics card so the graphics card heavy settings very turned down, whereas the CPU heavy settings like physics are on very high so you can really see which CPU effects the framerate the most.

@Jellocakes: I for one hate companies that port games and are too lazy to optimize controls, views, etc for that platform. It drives me nuts when they think a keyboard/mouse is the same as a control pad, wtf? The Last Remnant was just awful and unplayable as a PC title.

I prefer PC games, but there are some console games I really enjoy playing.

This is my opinion:
FPS PC
Sports Consoles
Fighting Games Consoles
RPG Both, but do not like xplatform ports.
Action Both
RTS PC
Racing Consoles

I believe that PCs and consoles give you different experiences, so why are we try to mush them up to be the same?

@Hraesvelgr: Because Oblivion was developed back in the good old days when games were developed for the PC and then ported to consoles. Not how it is now where it's the other way around. Thus, for PC users, TESV will look worse than Oblivion.

Skyburnbright