Metal Gear Comes To The Xbox 360

@Grind_Axis: Yep, I'll be pretty damned disappointed if it is. I mean, it'll still be in my library, but the current generation has too few titles that fill up the stealth genre hole left by the PS2/PC of yesteryear.

Here's hopin' the new Hitman is as good (or better!) than Blood Money, that Sucker Punch really is going to make a new Sly, that Thief 4 is as good as Thief 2.

@Archaotic: "It would be stupid to go exclusive, and it would piss a lot of fans off." <-- Kind of like making MGS4 exclusive to PS3? Seriously, do you people even realize how ridiculous it makes you look to defend exclusivity on one console and bash it on the other? And I don't mean to single you out here, Archaotic, but you did seem to suggest earlier that being a 360 exclusive is somehow worse than being a PS3 exclusive. Much of my rant here is directed at this conversation in general, not you specifically.

Look, Metal Gear has appeared on consoles from all of the Big Three, and there are millions of Metal Gear fans that get shut out any time one of the games is exclusive to any platform. I think that's bullshit, no matter which platform it's exclusive to. Multiplatform is better for everybody except the console makers themselves, and in my ever-so-humble opinion, anybody who advocates third party exclusives is a hopeless fantard. You are either satisfied with the console you bought and the games you can play on it, or you aren't. If you need to see people with the other consoles get denied games just to make yourself feel better, well, that's fucked up and so are you.

MechaTama31

@Crunch King: You make a compelling case there, my friend.

Against or for what, that is a mystery, however.

@Mr. Tambourine Man: I CAME.

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: It will sell. Large install base looking to try out MG. But I guess Sony fanboys can hope...

Muisee

@Archaotic: Well, we got what we wanted. It's a multi.

@Deuce: Multi platform confirmed.

PsycheE

@johnLD: Well, I do own a 360, but im not a fanboy. I used to have a psp. I know all the good and bad points about the consoles, i know that there are great games to play on every machine. I can addmit that the red ring of death is a big problem of the xbox 360 and MS should've done better and I even understand why a lot of people dont like the company. I just heard that this game is not a exclusive and im ok with it. I was not talking trash about any console.

In fact man, im not even mad about what you wrote.

What i dont like is sony fanboys. I could write a lot of bad (but real)examples of the lame things they do, but i won't bother. And you know that what I wrote is true. They are like that.

If hating fanboys makes a fanboy, then you're right... im a fanboy.

Rodelmar Alonso

It's very obvious that this game isn't an exclusive
It's good that the game is multiplatform.

If you want this to continue, you have to BUY THE GAME XBox owners.

Don't let this end up like the Xbox version of MGS2: Substance.

@Vishus: Wasn't there a 90's SNL episode about that?

Also, no, but nothing can save The View.

HJSoulma

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: "No more rhymes now and I mean it!"

@[news.prnewswire.com]

You are wrong. That is MS' official press release, courtesy of Arch in the above thread, confirming it is not among MS' list of exclusives.

"Have fun coming to terms with that bombshell." Indeed.

Bialia

Also, @ everyone,

GOD DAMMIT KIDS. Have you learned nothing? Listen to every word they say at these keynotes, and pay attention to exactly how they say them.

If MS or Sony has an exclusive, they will jam the word exclusive down your throat until your gag reflex kicks in. There is no way this'd be announced as a 360 exclusive without banners declaring said exclusivity, possibly a parade, dancing girls spelling out the word E X C L U S I V E, and MS staffers declaring exclusivity ad nauseum. Both companies will carefully compose their phrasing to make you all jump the gun and lead you astray, and MS did it again, and it worked!

Ridiculous.

There was never any god damned way this series was leaving Sony this gen. Sorry.

Bialia

@valdeaunia: This man has a point. No one ever acted like this when silent hill 2 or mgs2: substance was released on the x-box.

;/ i guess back then the x-box was relatively new.

@SSgtTEX: About the controller thing, Metal Gear and the Dualshock are totally married in my little world. TTS wasn't the same, was it?

Bialia

@InvaderPhlegm:

I watched the presser on G4 and I did hear something akin to the exclusives bit that you mentioned, but I didn't know they said everything afterward was exclusive.

As it comes to the logic...I stand by my original agreement.

The thing about the word 'exclusive' is that it rarely means exclusive. I'm willing to bet that, sooner than later, we'll hear the word 'timed' in front of the word 'exclusive'.

Konami is in the business of making money and now that they have a deal with MS, I think you'll just see less and less exclusivity as it comes the Metal Gear series.

I was hoping to play as Raiden after beating MGS4 and now I will get that chance ;_; dreams do come true

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Umm... Its not exclusive..

AliShaikh_Returns

What's more pathetic?

The Sony fan who immediately launches into rant mode at this announcement, decrying Kojima for "alienating" or "betraying" his fanbase?

Or the Microsoft fan who immediately launches into rant mode at this announcement, claiming that it absolutely must be exclusive?

What's so wrong about another platform getting a big-name title? Competition is healthy, kids. It promotes creativity.

For anyone who doesn't quite get it, read the official press release. MGS Rising is listed in with the "Blockbusters Here, There, Everywhere on Xbox 360" section, not the "Heart-Thumping Entertainment, Exclusively on Xbox 360" section. Again, given how heated this generation's console war is (thank you, internet...), if had been exclusive, MS would have trumpeted the fact with all their might.

And for those of you who are going on about how one console or another was a broken pile of crap or whatnot, understand that your personal experience does not equate to that of everyone else. I know folks who've never had to replace a 360 since launch. That doesn't diminish the fact that a lot of people have (including myself, twice). I've never had a single problem with a Sony console. I know others who have had nothing but trouble.

Most of us tend to favor one console over another. I have a PS3 and Xbox 360, with (a few) more games for the latter than the former. However, I made a decision to go pretty much strictly PS3 when it comes to multiplatform titles, unless the 360 version is demonstrably better. Why? Because the PS3 has never caused me any trouble, in spite of intensive use (and it has an HDMI out).

Games already have a stigma of being for immature manchildren. Please, for the sake of the entire pastime, let's try not to live down to the stereotype.

Wait a minute...Snake took care of the patriots in 4. What the hell is Raiden going to be fighting? His brainwashed ex-child soldier brethren.

Mysticgamer

hehehe.... lightning bolt action....hes fast as lightning....hahahahaa

@HoboBox: solid snakes story is over, well they say its over, but theres more characters in the metal gear solid universe

@dreadwing: streaking mode!

@Hellicus: PRICK

@Rodelmar Alonso: i kindda got the impression that you're a 360 fanboy and not worth listening to as all other fanboys.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: thanks for your insight mr dickhead

@Faiz Isa:

Did you even play MGS4?

BEST E3 NEWS EVER!!!!

Goddammit, Raiden. He's wearing eyeliner for Christ's sake. Well, still...nice to see Metal Gear finally go multiplat. As for exclusivity, I doubt it. Theres no reason for it.

Jim Gallo

@smuai: Grow up.

AncientUnknown1

OH COME ON, WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS COMING...

ALL OVER OUR FACES. ZING!

@InvaderPhlegm: I agree. Remember, the guy that was hosting said that every game shown after the Modern Warfare 2 demo would be only on the 360.

MixMaster81

@S/M Lincoln: Remember, the guy that was hosting said that every game shown after the Modern Warfare 2 demo would be only on the 360.

MixMaster81

@: Troll comment thread is full of trolls.

@Archaotic: Remember, the guy that was hosting said that every game shown after the Modern Warfare 2 demo would be only on the 360.

MixMaster81

Remember, the guy that was hosting said that every game shown after the Modern Warfare 2 demo would be only on the 360.

MixMaster81

@Liquidus:

Wow, you are one harsh mistress. I think MGS3 took the game to a whole new level-- not just in gameplay but in the overall story. The relationship between Naked Snake and The Boss was powerful stuff for a narrative.

Squirrelbot3000

ive never had a problem with Raiden. not in 2 nor in 4. Im excited!

neoxbomb

Don't really care. I didn't like MGS4 and won't buy this for my 360. I like to play games not watch cut scenes with some really stupid plot points.

@the7k:
Put your wallet away. It's not.

Squirrelbot3000

@turbofreak:

You read wrong. The VP of 360 admitted it wasn't.

Squirrelbot3000

@Alex_Mexico:
Hey now, MGS4 isn't even a year old for a few more days. Let's not put the cart before the horse.

Squirrelbot3000

@Paddy Obrien:

See, comments like this are what drive me crazy. I am sorry, but 360 owners have the biggest base of obnoxious "fanboys" of any console.

How is a PS3 useless? I still game on it. I play a lot of games that a 360 owner can. I have spent my share of hours on COD4 and COD:WaW. Or games like Madden, GTA4, HAWX, etc. Yeah the 360 has some exclusives, but not enough of them to make a PS3 useless.

I see more 360 owners in here saying, "Ha in your face!" More so then I do PS3 owners "crying" about a possible exclusive MGS game. Yes, myself as a PS3 owner would be upset at an exclusive MGS 360 game. I have been playing the series for 10 years now. But I wouldn't be upset to the fact that it is on the 360, I would be more upset that I would not be able to play it. If I owned a 360 it wouldn't be as big of a deal. Though if I did, I would still prefer to play it on the PS3. But that is how I have played it for years, with the Sony controller. I enjoy that controller. I have Twin Snakes, just didn't quite feel the same.

Yeah I would prefer it to stay a Sony only game, but I am glad to share with the 360 owners. But I would only want it to stay Sony so when I feel like being in a mood to argue, I would have my ammo for the 360 fanboys that are off the deep end.

Now before I get labeled a fanboy. Though I do not have a 360, I do have an original XBOX. I made the decision to follow the brand of console I prefer on this generation. That and at the time I got my PS3, I would have had to spend about $700 to get the 360 up to par with the PS3. (i.e. wireless network, HDMI, etc, etc) One day I will pick up a 360. But that will be really for 2 things. Halo 3 (to finish the story) and Scene It, since my wife loved playing that game on my buddies 360.

can this be referred to as selling out? ugh all used to be exclusive franchises....

haha! I'm sorry for 360 owners... A MGS with Raiden! Well, maybe they'll add a DLC later so you can actually play with Snake...

Kinda remembers me of Soul Calibur 4... I mean... Cmon... Vader is much cooler than Yoda.

Now back to work so I can buy a overpriced PSPgo at day 1.

@SocraticMethod:
I think it might become like Devil May Cry since it's "L.B.A."..Seeing as how Raiden was 'super hyper' in MGS4..it's plausible the next game will be DMC-ish.

@HJSoulma: Are you saying that "The View" would be better if baba waba were naked?

Pfft. What's with all this fanboy rage? It's not like MGS4 is going to be released to Xbox360.

Besides, did the Metal Gear that was released in the old Xbox get the same treatment?

It is (as always) sad to see how lame sony fanboys react when they "lose" a franchise. After having to wipe their asses due to the way they crap their pants in anger, all they are doing is talking(and posting)shit about the game. "You got the big ass pussy raiden", "It's going to suck balls", "It's comming to the ps3 too... you'll see" are some of the comments i've read so far.

After all this, i have only two things to say:

1: Hey you!... yes you, the sony fanboy soaked in bloody tears... GET OVER IT!!!!.

2: I think metal gear solid rising might be a more action oriented game. Have you noticed the "Lightning Bolt Action" subtitle? It's not Tactical Espionage Acion anymore.

Rodelmar Alonso

@[www.onelastcontinue.com]

in fact Kotaku has linked to us several times.

Give Arch credit for having a site that is worthy of notice

@Archaotic: This thread got pretty crazy. My 2cents is if it was a 360 exclusive they would announced it at the conference. I've got no problem with it coming out for the 360 same as FF XIII. As long as PS3 gets a copy which until I here otherwise I'm assuming is true its all good. Some of yall need to take a breath and chill.

KillaB43

@Archaotic: Oh sweet Jesus if we finally get a decent Metal Gear port for PC I will cream my pants.

Sir-Lucius

@excel_excel: Well from how you replyed i thought u diden't understand my point, and warrenty what warrenty u just yell very loudly at them over there at the xbox support number and your set, u just need to buy your own boxes now adays

u know back when this first happend this lady said it was becouse i left a game in the system....u know how many times my computers cdrom drive would have had to be replaces, silly silly tech support peaple...

@InvaderPhlegm:

PS3 party at my house! *puts on paper cone hat rather rakishly*

Squirrelbot3000

@Revenge_of_Nekojin: Likewise. Still, nice to get a little MGS loving.

@InvaderPhlegm:

Have fun coming to terms that the VP admitted after the press conference it's not exclusive.

BOOM!

Squirrelbot3000

JUST SO YOU KNOW, the KojiPro NEXT website is back up and running and it's apparently a special 2009 E3 site.

Seems like they probably have more things to announce....

@pd771: Hi there, I've owned a 360 for 4 years and never had a problem.

All you worthless trolling fanboys on both sides need to die.

Just play your video games and shut the hell up. If you can't afford both consoles then you shouldn't even be putting your opinions on the internet.

If your "taste" in games are so fucking shallow that you buy a console for one big brand name series, then you have no business even talking about games.

Jashin Slayer

Just saw the announcement on G4 and I have to say, it was...interesting. It didn't seem like many people were EXCITED about it, per se, probably because they know Kojima is known for doing crazy stuff. The Sony conference isn't until tomorrow and the Konami conference is not till Wednesday.

Kojima definitely still has something (two things, actually) up his sleeve. I just hope Kojima revives the MGS series somehow; MGS4, for me personally, was slightly a bit of a letdown. And I've replayed it 10 times already, collected every little thing, got the Big Boss medal etcetc. I just didn't find it as enjoyable as an experience like that of MGS, MGS2, or even MGS3.

If there IS an MGS5 (Not MGS:Rising), I want Kojima to bust his balls to do it right. Or work on that new IP of his. Something tells me Rising is not the ONLY thing he's working on...

I thought the Solid series was over, but I guess its alright if its focusing on Raiden with a few possible Snake appearances. It's better not to drag on Snake's story any more than needed to, as cool as he is.

Hope its multiplatform.

LOL xbox got Raiden....um big deal Raiden is no snake or big boss and he is kind of a whimmy bitch.

@UncleScrotar: He does care about what other people think/want him to do. He pitched his original idea for the ending of MGS4 to his development team (Otacon & Snake executed) who promptly shot it down.

If he didn't care, and was indeed this rebel that you make him out to be, he wouldn't have pitched it in the first place.

On a sidenote, I can only imagine this game being a prequel, seeing as how Raiden couldn't have come back from what happened to him (he's no Vamp).

IRHari

@Indy_aka_Rex: You automatically assume the game is shit without knowing anything about it.

You fucking fanboys make me sick.

Jashin Slayer

@Stu Bu: P.S I don't get why the fcuk anyone cares about console exclusivity, I'd rather a game get released on anything plausible (without marring quality)...There's more people to talk about the games with and appreciate the things that actually deserve it, the GAMES. Consoles are just the tools to play the media, the more universal the better! (BITTER HE CAN'T PLAY MGS4.../ I kid lol.)

Good news for X360 owners. My PS3 still hasn't been exposed to MGS4... mainly because my PS2 was never exposed to MGS3... Whoops. One of these days, I'll take advantage of my system's exclusives...

@kylenalepa: GamesPress has it listed for PS3, PC, and 360...as well as a few other games you might be interested to see.

[www.onelastcontinue.com]

Hmm...

@Archaotic: Im sure its multiplat, if it was not M$ would have had this announcement plastered to the wall as soon as the show began, Lol. This will make the company more money (from a business standpoint) and more importantly, grow the fanbase (consumer standpoint). Hell, we all get to have fun. We should be more worried only one console gets exclusive DLC :)

After watching the teaser and listening to the KojiPro E3 Special Podcast it's pretty official that Kojima is nothing more than a hack. The MGS series has been dead since the release of that piece of trash MGS3, MGS: PO, MGS: PO+, and MGS4. That's 4 terrible games in a row.

Before you criticize me I am Metal Gear. Don't believe me? Check out me Metal Gear collection: [diesnake.com]

Liquidus

@NINgod: Considering that no other multiplatform game has had superior graphics on the PS3, I don't think thats likely.

Jashin Slayer

@Hey_Blinkon: Yeah, I can't wait till everything goes back to normal. I wish someone was here to dispense some hammer justice to all of these idiots CLOGGING UP MAH KOTAKU!

@element7:
And a million fanboys cry out in pain, while 4 million more cry out in joy.

Squirrelbot3000

What about the Big Boss game? That's the one I'm more interested in since I adore MGS3.

spikespeigel

@Archaotic: Gotcha. Well, if it's 360-exclusive, I hope your system is able to hold out.

As for the likelihood of it being multi-platform, that would make the most sense from an economic standpoint, but it seems odd that Kojima would announce the game at Microsoft's press conference if it weren't exclusive to the Xbox 360.

We'll see!

kylenalepa

@excel_excel: Yes? Did someone call me? ....hello? ....HELLO?...fuckinggoodfornothingkidsalwa....*zzza..slam*

@[cache.gawker.com]

Yeah, that isn't Rising.

this is a joke right?

Yup i agree. Kojima wanted to make something different so you can bet its not a strategy title, especially with Raiden as the main character. The guys a ninja...
You can bet your exclusive money it's gonna be along the lines of a Ninja Gaiden-esque game, since it caters to what a lot of 360 gamers have come to expect from MS games.

@Spike-Strife: Oh I agree that MS does replace its hardware, and that Sony has had failure rates for consoles as well. None of them have been more reported or as widespread as the 360's failure rates though. and your exactly right you still don't have to pay for one to get fixed, but when the warranty runs out your fucked!

Sony and Nintendo better have some downright orgasmic shit waiting, or there be trouble brewin in their futures...

It'll be multiplat. The game was discussed in the PS Famitsu.

dgonchild

actually the whole "lighting bolt action" subtitle lends me to think this might be a Ninja Gaiden clone... especially since its Raiden..

@excel_excel:

what about how i use to have to turn my ps1 upside down to work, or how its sonyies (sp) bad for not replaceing broken hardware unlike microsoft did

i was just trying to state the fact that maybe the ps3 is better hardware this generation but it took 3 times to get it right so there soulden't be no 360 bashing when u still don't have to pay for one to get fixed...

All I can imagine in my head is the South Park episode where George Lucas and Steven Spielberg rape Indiana Jones.

Possibly Kojima is the Indiana Jones in this scenario.

Gerard Cabarse

So how many discs will it be then? more than 4 i'm guessing.. LOL!

@Archaotic: According to half the numbnuts out there, the only way to make mention of the fact that the 360 had, and still has to a lesser extent, a piss poor failure rate is to make sure to mention every other piece of hardware ever made that has been shitty. God forbid anybody say anything remotely critical about anything anymore.

Sir-Lucius

Naw I didn't crap my pants.

Sorry folks, not exclusive:

[e3.g4tv.com]

@TheNexusRebound: Wrong. If anything, this will only fuel fanboyism.

Still, it's great that(hopefully, I'm confident) all users will be able to play this game.

@jedbeetle: LOL! Here's a cookie for you sir.

@Archaotic: ah yeah its multi-platform alright. Too bad the countdown just lead to that shitty flash site though!

='( < the biggest tears of joy i've ever cryed.

what a letdown... the page just went down. AAAAARRRGHHH!!! un... phu**ng.... be... lie... va.... ble....

lithium

@Archaotic: Bah, beet me to it!

grantanamo

The game is not exclusive. If you hop over to The Feed on G4, they grabbed Schappert and he was quoted as saying, "You know, we didn't say that it was exclusive." So, I think that covers it.

@Archaotic: Another bit of info...

[e3.g4tv.com]

Lookin' like more and more that IGN should burn.

grantanamo

@excel_excel: Looks like more news is coming later this week, possibly at Sony or Konami's press conferences.

[e3.g4tv.com]

That's all the confirmation I need though.

@[www.konami.jp]

the dumb fucks had it so that the countdown just started over again.

Meh sounds awesome but i doubt its exclusive so if xbots think it is there quite naive..its coming to ps3 aswell but its nice the xbots can stop whining over mgs games.

theblade

@Archaotic: Is the Kojima NEXT site down? It's not loading for me. Did you see what the countdown led to?

@OhNoItsGojira: In my screen it got to 00:00:00 Nothing happened. Also the mask hasn't changed (it's broken).

rdcarvallo

Countdown hit zero and nothing... Site tried to refresh itself about 10 times before I manually refreshed now it says "The page does not exist". What a letdown.

Its kinda like a Halo game on PS3 with the Arbiter as the only playable character: Its still Halo but you don't really care about it

geddymcc

@B33: Its funny that Kojima only gives the Xbox the titles starring Raiden. Its like he secretly doesn't like it...

geddymcc

@Last Face; Use a Green Shell like a man!: Thats a great song

The mask site is not loading. Its past the countdown. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

While waiting for the countdown, I came upon this.

[e3.g4tv.com]

Just to let you guys know.

Gerard Cabarse

@-[[CHoZO]]-'s comment is useless and irritating. then you fail to follow the logic and post yet another retard comment.

be less stupid

@Crayon Box of Fury: RAGE GIVE ME YOUR RAAAAGGGEE

I'm predicting maybe 3-4 discs

xxAlucarDraculax

@Archaotic: Wait a sec, that pretty much confirms that its mutilplatform....people should stop flaming you, jesus its too much

@kylenalepa: To be entirely honest, I didn't think people were going to get so mad about that line...my 360 is half-dead, and I really don't like playing games on it if I can avoid it. =/

Seeing all the responses though, I really should've worded it differently.

Lol, it'll take 10 discs in an entire briefcase to fit the game on

Austin Stephen

I just opened a bunch of the E3 posts in new tabs, so I didn't see what they were about.

I clicked on this, and my jaw actually dropped, followed immediately by a giant smile taking over my entire face and the most girlishly happy squeal ever to come out of my mouth.

And then I jizzed in my pants.

Look at the title! "Metal Gear Solid: Rising - Lightning Bolt Action". What does it mean by Lightning!?

@Archaotic: "...I'd like to play it on working hardware..."

Well, that's some impressive flame-bait right there if I've ever seen it. I'm not going to bite.

As for the game, I'm pretty excited. Microsoft hasn't seen Metal Gear since Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance on the original Xbox, which everybody seems to forget, and having a (potentially) exclusive title starring a character that got a bad-ass makeover in Metal Gear Solid 4 is a huge win.

kylenalepa

@EMPEROR_COW: get a job, buy a ps3, buy MGS4, get some cheese for all your whine

;) ;) iz juz gamez babiez

pandafresh

@robbo_the_hood: I agree with you. This closed mindedness needs to stop! Let the fanboy-ism cease, and lets discuss more formal topics, like 'how to bake pie'. :P

Yes, sad..

So sad...

-The Sorrow

@Spike-Strife: What the hell did this guy say?

@Launch: RIP Dreamcast, you're still well and alive in our hearts.

but really, the PS3 is doing fine man (@OP) Sony's not making Wii money, but they aren't choking either.

pandafresh

Well I am a bit disappointed that this isn't MGS4. I guess we will see this time next year, give or take a couple of months. I am interested in what Kojima thinks the 360 is capable of. I mean, surely he doesn't mean to produce some weak, superficial 360 port? Surely there is room for CQC on the 360? Is it contractually obligated to be Sony Exclusive?

tnmnsquare

@n00b_pwner: B-b-but that was the best part of "MGS2" ;_;! *sadness*

/blatant sarcasm, even though she is a girl

@-[[CHoZO]]-: Not really, u can argue after keeping MGS4 exclusive for PS3, they don't owe them nothing. Unless it's exclusive to M$ then yeah it would suck for us and Sony.

new_age_soldier

@Archaotic:
The child's name is "Frag". That just symbolizes the rabid fanboyism for M$ to a T.

And no, it would not have sold 8 mil. It's a franchise that owes it's success to Sony (and to a lesser degree Nintendo), so bringing a final chapter to 360 for a story 20 years in the making would have just been idiotic. You're then telling all the fans that "if you want the whole entire story, and not just a 15 minute narrative about the history, go pick up a PS console and play 'em".

Squirrelbot3000

@OhNoItsGojira: You can believe that if you want, but I got a feeling that you are going to be disappointed in the end if you do.

For my part, I got a 360 and a PS3. I've already played MGS4, and any new Metal Gear coming down the line is icing on the cake. If the game remains a 360 exclusive, I'm covered. If it does not, I am still covered.

However, if I called it right (which would not be the first time), and you do not have a 360 and are a Metal Gear fan holding out on the possibility that Microsoft was not smart enough to lock in the new series exclusively, and it turns out that they have, you sir, are not covered.

All I am saying is, it is better to assume that it is an exclusive. If it turns out not to be one, no harm done. However, if it turns out to be an exclusive, then everyone on this thread, and everywhere else holding out for a PS3 version, when they finally find out that it is not coming, you are going to feel hurt and betrayed and all that nonsense. Look at it from a PS fanboy's perspective. Better to assume the worst, and not get let down of good news does come later, than to assume the best, and get facepalmed when the bad news hits.

So for PS fanboys, assume the game is a 360 exclusive, and if it turns out not to be, then it's time to put on your party hats. For Xbox fanboys, assume the opposite - assume the game is multi-platform, and if it turns out to be exclusive, then it is fistbump time.

But for the record, as a fanboy of neither system, I really do think that it is a 360 exclusive. And I think you are only setting yourself up for more hurt by believing different.

I hope that answers you question.

InvaderPhlegm

@Thanatophage: That's my best guess. Right now we are 3 sites saying multiplat, the Whore of whore sites saying exclusive. Why I read that site is still beyond me (I'm a damn junkie).

grantanamo

@Archaotic: HOLY SHIT you're getting a lot of flame. I can't believe how many people e3 drags into this.

Hey_Blinkon

@Alex_Mexico: keep saying that to yourself, fanboy.

@Letiumtide:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

@zanzibarlegend: HEY JESUS, SAW THE NEWS? MGS FOR TEH XBOX 360. GOING 2 FAP, BRB.

@jedbeetle: not a bad idea honestly...sans the farming

@robbo_the_hood: Well FF13 will be delaying the PS3 release because they also have to develop it for 360 and want to release them at the same time. That's what angers me. Not like many people on the 360 will play it, look how well the JRPGs are faring in the U.S.

@MaxDragon7: Sorry sir, a game with a plot on the 360? Unacceptable.

Well.. this is why I didn't like MGS2 so much is cause it didn't have snake..
On this other hand if this is Raiden after getting all Cyborg Ninja-fied and it's like a prequel to 4...... and then they announce 4 for the 360 then sure, np!

AZoMBiE

It's not over....NOT YET!!!

@Yertle8: Not really. I love MGS and I'm a huge fan, but now they're just trying to stretch it and milk the IP for what it's worth. It's going to ruin the franchise. And Raiden was a fucking pussy in MGS2.

Badass in MGS4 though.

@grantanamo: Or someone's taking advantage of the confusion to generate page hits... :P

I mean, was that "sorry Sony fans" jab necessary?

Thanatophage

@MGSM: Me too, honestly. It was obvious that Raiden was purposefully made the way he was in MGS2, to mess with us. Metal Gear games do that kind of thing all the time. It's part of the charm of the series.

@smuai: Who the hell cares about MGS4? That is so 2008. Nobody cares about old games anymore. We want something new. I'm happy he announced the 360 is getting his next game instead of his previous game.

AncientUnknown1

@Dennen: Ah, I misunderstood what you wrote. But I would prefer if he were playable, as in my above post.

TriplEEE13

@SsLordMagus: That was the same thing I said when I first heard 'it' in Snake Eraser too. O_O Indeed.

Who didn't see this coming?

@Dennen: Then I would consider it. But it would have to be like a separate entity of a game. Not some re-skinned version of Raiden. It would be two different approaches to beating the game. Go as a Ninja and chop up a bunch of soldiers... Or go as Snake and sneak around, occasionally shooting at badguys, but mostly hiding in boxes.

TriplEEE13

@Placentasaurus: Maybe it's like inFamous, with a sword.

jedbeetle

@grantanamo: I don't think Keighley (or Microsoft's PR release, which is really the key here) has any reason to lie; even IGN themselves have Metal Gear Solid Rising listed as a PS3 game. Multiplatform until proven exclusive. The countdown ends in 20 minutes, so let's find out.

I love fanboys! If a game is exclusive to PS3 the xbots will say that it is shit and the SDFers will say it fucking awesome, if a game goes multi the SDFers will say that M$ paid a fuckzillion dollar to get it and the xbots will say that its over, PS3 is finished

OrtenseDemophon

@grantanamo:

You'd think they'd've said as much during the conference... shouting if from the rooftops for cripes sake. :|

Thanatophage

@Crayon Box of Fury: yeah, we should all have to shell out $400+ for one game... totally isn't reasonable that somebody would want to play the game in a more convenient manner.

...Damn you've got some weirdly placed aggression

awesomemonster

I wonder what it'll play like? Notice it says "Lightning Bolt Action" instead "Tactical Espionage Action." Maybe it'll be more of an action game, like Ninja Gaiden or something. Then again, Raiden means "Fighting Thunder" in Japanese, so it could just be because of that. Either way, it'll be awesome. It can't not be awesome.

@KingDavid73: Kind of the way I feel, you never know though, they might just throw other metal gears onto x box live, that would keep me from buckling and shelling out a months rent in the crappiest neighborhood in my borough. However, GOW three might be worth it.

tnmnsquare

@Archaotic: Man WTF. How can there be this much misinformation. Either way people are posting incorrect things on multiple sites. Soooo, someone must be lying, god this sucks.

grantanamo

@Hey_Blinkon: According to the Kotaku liveblog, after Alan Wake they said that they were done talking about 360 exclusives.

@TriplEEE13:

What if it HAS Solid Snake, just not playable?

Just tuggin on your strings, Mr Tripl.

@UncleScrotar: In all fairness... the xbox version of MGS 2 was god awful. The rain in the first scene dropped the framerate to about 5.

@OhNoItsGojira: MGS4 didn't rely much on Stealth either, it played a role in the game but it far from relied on it.

-MasterDex-

@jedbeetle: I hope you are totally wrong.

tnmnsquare

@pd771: Do keep in mind that according to the Kotaku liveblog, this was announced after Microsoft said they were done discussing console exclusives. Hehehe.

[uk.xbox360.ign.com]

according to IGN it's exclusive.

Letiumtide

@grantanamo: I'm more willing to trust Microsoft's own PR than I am IGN, who has been wrong MANY times before.

Also, Keighley thinks it's multiplat.

[twitter.com]

Let's just wait until the countdown timer expires in half an hour and we'll see.

@EMPEROR_COW: I could destroy your comment with logic and a long winded comment of my own however it's so much easier to just say this:

Fanboy much?

-MasterDex-

I really hope this leads to some mg3 on my xbox live...somehow...Snake Eater!

tnmnsquare

@CHunterX:
Heh, not a bad idea. I'd settle for it. Or, that is I'd rather get something than nothing...

Blah8

@ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.:

dude it's the intarwebz. your cry for sanity for the masses will fall on deaf fingers XD

casmith07

@Thanatophage: It wasn't up when I posted that. We pretty much already knew though. I'm glad someone put it up. It's on both. Everyone's happy! Right? Guys?

What if Hideo is making the same game for 2 system, only you play Raiden on one and Big Boss on the other, and it's co-op, only to play co-op, you have to play with an owner of the opposing system, and he's really just trying to bring fanboys together in a love fest?
and the game is about farming?

jedbeetle

@Crayon Box of Fury: Seriously, new to Kotaku? I wouldn't take the approach to commenting you're taking right now. You'll be laughed out of every thread you try to join.

-MasterDex-

The air got sucked out of the room when Kojima said "I didn't say anything about Solid Snake." You could hear a pin drop, and it wasn't a good thing.

@Archaotic: Uhhhh I don't know if they are misinformed but IGN just said that it is 360 exclusive. I really hope that is incorrect.

[xbox360.ign.com]

grantanamo

@Hey_Blinkon:
Ah, but isn't the contextual definition "exclusive" up for question? When he said that, did he mean "exclusive" exclusive or just an exclusive (for an undisclosed amount of time)?

Blah8

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I'm pretty sure the Rising game is multi-plat, and I'm glad that we'll have a AAA ninja game from Hideo. He's probably a little tired of doing the same character over an 18+ year span. PS3 owners who think they're entitled to MGS should remember that MGS didn't start on playstation. Also, MGS costs a hell of a lot, and it should be multi-plat to recoup costs.

It's like this news is a giant rock, and the fanboys are the huge insect colony hiding underneath when you lift it up.

Your first reaction is to recoil and slam the rock back in place, but what's done is done, and you can't help but sit and stare at the insects in disgust.

Jesus H. Jingleheimer... it's just a game, people. Your rabid brand loyalty is overriding your ability to think for yourselves. The 360 and PS3 *can* co-exist. There isn't going to be an epic and bloody battle between the companies and their customers. They are just appliances.

Sometimes games go multi-plat on said appliances. This doesn't harm anybody. If you need a game to be exclusive to your console of choice so that you can feel superior, then you should probably be spending your money on counseling instead of games.

@DXY!: if that is the case, and it's on PS3, I would wet my pantaloons.

casmith07

@K1NG EV1L: yes, and all of it's 5x DVD glory that it would have taken.

Get a grip - MGS4 wasn't that good...trust me. 70% cutscene, 30% gameplay.

casmith07

@tshack: yeah it'll probably be like ninja gaiden

jedbeetle

@Seinrien: I JUST responded to a post earlier - you and I have thought exactly alike. The first time I saw the subtitle I thought Devil May Cry, particularly with Ninja Raiden using the HF Blade.

If that's the case, then I can't say I'd be upset if this were a 360 exclusive.

casmith07

@SocraticMethod:

Is the MS press release not definitive proof?

Thanatophage

is anyone else still excited that despite this announcement, the countdown is still going?

either that's horrendous marketing or we'll still in for more treats!

casmith07

@Crayon Box of Fury: Something gives me the feeling you won't last long around here...

Hey_Blinkon

@fiffer86:

don't get me wrong - kojima has designed some great games in the past, but just the subtitle being "lightning bolt action" makes me think this one will play like Devil May Cry moreso than like traditional Metal Gear. I haven't necessarily been impressed with Kojima, however. While I've always loved the gameplay of MGS I wish that he would have saved all of his political commentary for some other project rather than use what could have potentially been one of the greatest games ever (MGS4) as his personal platform. If I wanted to watch a movie with wacky political ideology, I'll go watch a Mike Meyers documentary. When I come to play MGS4, I want more firefights, more of the PMC vs. resistance gameplay that we were promised that we experienced for all of Act I and Act II before the game got increasingly more ridiculous. Man-Cannon launches to infiltrate Arsenal Gear?? Come on!

@Dayvie: I can agree with that.

casmith07

@SocraticMethod: It's listed as a multiplatform title on Microsoft's own E3 press release. We know now. It's done.

[news.prnewswire.com]

@SocraticMethod:

I don't care. Where did I state that I think this will be exclusive? Please, quote me. I'm just tired of Archaotic's bad attitude.

@y2julio: No, I wouldn't. How they hell would you know? You got no clue about what I do, so stop making stupid assumptions. Even if it were on the PS3 a Raiden game doesn't interest me. If it had Solid Snake or Big Boss, then I would be interested. Take your fanboyism assumptions elsewhere Jack.

TriplEEE13

@Archaotic:

Can you guys just drop it until we hear from Sony? It most likely is multiplatform but MS did also say that all games announced after so and so were exclusive. Who cares? It'll be clarified in like a day or less.

This comment will probably be lost in this sea of opinions, but i'll say it anyway.

I don't like how the MGS logo ditched the "tactical espionage action" phrase for "lighting bolt action".

With this, and with Kojima saying that the game will be a completely new experience, my bet is that MGR will be a Devil May Cry / God of War kinda hack and slash game.

Hope I'm wrong, but if i'm right, then meh...

Seinrien

@Archaotic:

heh thats the point im trying to make you had to buy a new one, shame on sony i missed disgea and every other game that came out after that becouse i wasen't going to buy a system i already paid for....

Am I going to be the first person to say it? LIGHTNING BOLT, LIGHTNING BOLT, LIGHTNING BOLT

@OGHowie: Ever hear of GameTrailers or Eurogamer? There are much, MUCH worse examples of trolling out there. :P

Anyways, we know the game is multiplatform, it's listed as a multiplatform title on Microsoft's own press release. Game over. Stop arguing.

[news.prnewswire.com]

@kw4k: Curse you for bringing that up!

Xaevier

@Dennen:

The first question was rhetorical.

@Archaotic:

I didn't know the press trolled so much.

Your first post was a perfect example.

@fiffer86: Snake is the wheelchair, that's how awesome he is:)

@SocraticMethod:

really i mean my ps1 still works but ya upside down it has to be,

im just saying sony wouldent replace ether of them for me but seems like ive had 10 new xboxes all for free (well not the first one lol)

@Dennen:

Follow-up: When I said that he doesn't have a direct PR e-mail, I mean that in the sense that he didn't show it to us. Not that he's required to flash proof to everyone. Choose to accept is word or not, that's up to you, is all i'm saying.

@B33: the backlash was only due to the fact that Raiden wasn't announced beforehand IIRC. It was like a: *Surprise!* Snake isn't the main character for a huge portion of the game! Hey... why do you look angry?

That was why there was backlash. Now people know who Raiden is so a spin off game with him in it isn't really going to cause backlash. I'm down once I actually get around to playing MGS4...

Oooooh, so this is one of those shockers that Sony's PR guy was talking about.

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: I just read on IGN that it is indeed exclusive on 360. I can only hope now that is is a timed exclusive for only so long. If not I feel stabbed in the back. Why Kojima why!?

turbofreak

@KommanderKeith:

It's clearly lumped in with other multi-plat titles in the MS press release.

Thanatophage

I call homo.

@Kamen Rider Gatack:

I just had to post a slight bit of humor in the fact that you said "Who the fuck do you think you are?" and followed it up with a statement that completely contradicts the formation of the previous question. I found it humorous.

@KommanderKeith:

I agree in the sense that he doesn't have a direct PR e-mail that states it's coming to the PS3. However, in the defense of common sense - where did we hear that the game was exclusive? I didn't read Kojima say so. I didn't see Microsoft put up any banners like they always do with exclusive content of any kind. I didn't hear a microsoft exec shout "Exclusively on the Xbox 360" when the new Metal Gear game was being talked about...

All i'm saying is that by logic, we have no "proof" either way until tomorrow. So why are we bucking up such a huge flamewar?

@Mr. Tambourine Man: it's confirmed multiplatform. wait till tonight when the clock if done.

@EMPEROR_COW:

Yeah, notice it doesn't say Tactical Espionage Action. So this game probably isn't going to rely on stealth. Who knows. Not what I was wanting.

OhNoItsGojira

I look forward to anything Kojima produces be it on the 360 or PS3.

Good no more bickering about which system is better. Since it doesn appear to be an exclusive all get to enjoy this new MGS. I can't wait to play as a cyber ninja.

@Archaotic:

What an ego on this one. Having fun stroking your e-penis on Kotaku?

@Archaotic: and yet you still dont make mention that during the show they said all the games thereafter would be exclusive ones.

So again unless I see it come from konami one way or another, there is no concrete evidence of what the games release status is, be it exclusive or not

@KommanderKeith: An idiot with a GeoCities website passes for "press" at E3. I love when people justify trolling or being a fanboy because they write stuff on-line.

Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere in the thread...

[news.prnewswire.com]

So it's not exclusive. :)

Thanatophage

@OGHowie:
So true.
It went all donwhill since.

@Alex_Mexico: This definitely goes a way into keeping that door open. I wouldn't hold my breath myself, but Konami could easily consider even farming out MGS4 for development as a 360 port, especially if this game sells well and assuming Sony hasn't bought exclusivity for MGS4.

@excel_excel: You're**. Dumbfuck.

@Hey_Blinkon: Don't give me that bull. If anyone wants to play it, then they should buy a PS3. Otherwise, who cares. 360 Fanboys have their ENORMOUS LIBRARY THAT BEATS THE PS3-NO GAMES DUR HUR HUR.

@[ps3.gamespy.com]

SAUCE AND CONFIRMATION OF IT BEING MULTIPLATFORM, SON!! *fist bumps*

@InvaderPhlegm:

So why isn't any videogame news website on the internet calling this game exclusive then? Maybe because Microsoft put together a misleading presentation and you are reading into things?

OhNoItsGojira

@KommanderKeith: The PR e-mail cleanly states that the game is not exclusive. It doesn't announce it for PS3, but again, this was an announcement at Microsoft's press conference. Microsoft is not going to announce a new game for rival hardware at their presser. They're going to pretend it doesn't exist, just like the way that they didn't mention FFXIII on PS3 at all, even though the PS3 version is the lead SKU.

If the game was exclusive, Mattrick would have said it verbatim, and Konami would've said it verbatim. I really don't know how this is so hard for you to grasp.

@Kamen Rider Gatack: I've been posting on Kotaku for three years, so if you don't know who I am, then that's not my problem.

Im guessing this might be Raiden side of the story in MGS4. In stead of going through the trouble of making a brand new game, they should have just ported MGS4.

K1NG EV1L

@Archaotic: Amen

@Archaotic: Unless you have a PR email that states that its coming to PS3, you need to stop posting now, its one thing to have an opinon, but you're saying its fact.

and acting like that well, I can see why you are and will remain a "small fry"

Hahaha, WHAT IF the game is a reverse MGS2, where it's billed as featuring Raiden, but then after the first chapter, you play as Snake? :D

@Buttah: The Delicious One: Seriously. I don't see why it's so hard to believe that it's a multiplatform game. If people would just accept that instead of bickering like spoiled children, they'd realize that the game is probably going to kick ass, and both sides get to play it so there SHOULDN'T be any fights. Jesus.

360 getting a MGS game? Great! But it would be pretty retarded not to release it on the PS3. Why? X-Box gamers did not have the chance to play through previous MGS games (uness you own a PSX, PS2, PS3, X-Box and X-Box 360), so it makes no sense to start off with the story from God knows were, and not give it to the people who have been following it from the beggining too.

Laurent_Wolf

@jedbeetle: Lulz!

richardsim7

@Archaotic:

"It's not a secret that I'm personally not a huge fan of Microsoft "

It is a secret to me, who the fuck do you think you are? I don't know, and don't want to know shit about you.

@Faiz Isa: what, your capslock broke?

jedbeetle

@Archaotic: You're fighting a losing battle right now because you're trying to use logic to win an argument instead of CAPITAL LETTERZ AND BED SPEELING WITH EXPLAMATION MARKS!!!!11

Anybody with a brain can see that this game will be multiplatform. Not sure why there is such a deep denial on the part of Xbox fans. You'd think they didn't have any or games to play or something?

Buttah: The Delicious One

I bet the development on the 360 is exclusive to the 360.

jedbeetle

After reading some of the comments here on Kotaku: I am under the impression that this game is exclusive for 360.
People seems to have forgotten that this game has already been mentioned in Playstation specific magazines like famitsu (the playstation version). Yes, it's coming for 360, but it probably is coming for PS3 as well, and as Luke already pointed out, there was no word of exclusive.

Gigaflare

I WANTED MGS4 FOR 360. NOT SHITTY GAME FOR 360!!

Trailer anyone?

+ Watch video

Check out MY Metal Gears at:

[diesnake.com]

Liquidus

@KommanderKeith: Contrary to popular belief, just being press doesn't get you free consoles, dude. Especially when you're a small fry like myself. I'm not Totilo, Crecente, or N'Gai, but we still have enough clout to get into press conferences and get PR e-mails.

@Kamen Rider Gatack: It's not a secret that I'm personally not a huge fan of Microsoft due to the way they fucked with my family back in the 90s.

Despite that, it didn't stop my jaw from hitting the floor when the Crackdown announcer started talking, or cheering when they activated a Metroidvania-style map in Shadow Contract. I have a 360, I use it plenty, I'm just a lot pickier with what I play on it because I know it's running on borrowed time.

Ugh fuck that. Just from the title you can pretty much tell it's no longer about stealth or anything close to that despite the fact that raiden is a ninja(?). "Lightning Bolt Action", great...just fucking great.

@Archaotic: No offense to you but if your "press" why are you on another site while all the stories are breaking? Even if I had a staff at 20 at E3 and another 20 working on some website I would help or at least post on my site and not bother on another or even multitasking with another.

FatalChaos

@Archaotic: My friends and I must've been lucky then throughout the years. We never encountered any of that. But my 6-7 year old PS2 did eventually get the DRE. After 6-7 years, I didn't care and got a new one.

@Jose Fortuna: not to mention kojima would be losing out on all that money from the already-invested MGS fans who don't have 360's

@Archaotic: Because in this day and age even the pissant of blogs can finagle *one* press pass to E3.

Give us a break.

@Archaotic: Oh yea, and a press member probably would be able to show proof, since you know that's a staple of journalism, but i guess you would know that right?

BOOOM, it's done.

cmykvsrgb

@Archaotic:

If that's the reason you said what you did in the OP, you should've stated so in the OP. Now that everyone is getting on your back, it just seems like a bullshit excuse to cover up the fanboyism you accidentally let slip. WHOOPS!

@jellyfish: The survival? It's not the dreamcast :S

@Archaotic: a member of the press wouldnt be worrying about not having a working 360, well that is of course unless Sony wasn't penetrating them at the time

@beta_angel: His logic is sound, but for one small, itty-bitty problem.

About 45 minutes into their press conference (I watched it streaming live), Microsoft reps made a point to state that everything else that was being shown at their E3 presser for the rest of the show, was console exclusive to Xbox 360.

The Metal Gear Solid Rising announcement, came about 30 minutes after Microsoft made that statement.

And true enough, everything else that was shown at their E3 press conference, and I do mean everything, is a confirmed Xbox 360 exclusive.

My guess is, that while Konami is perfectly happy to take Sony's money to keep the primary Metal Gear Solid series a Playstation exclusive, they are also just as happy to take Microsoft's money to keep the Metal Gear Solid Rising series an Xbox exclusive . . . yes, that's right, I said the entire series, not just the one game (you heard it here first).

So unless Playstation fanboys feel like learning how to use an Xbox controller, they are going to miss out on this completely new Metal Gear series.

Have fun coming to terms with that bombshell.

I on the other hand own both PS3 and 360, so I don't have any problems with it at all.

InvaderPhlegm

@excel_excel: YOU CAN'T REACH JESUS RIGHT NOW. HE'S FAPPING HIMSELF TO THIS NEWS.

LEAVE A MESSAGE AFTER THE BEEP.

BEEP.

@Cesar Hernandez:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fanboyism with style, and without the CAPS lock.

oh and this is what i sort of dont like about the ps3 and 360, they are barely getting any exclusives anymore. and this is why i also think the wii has a slight advantage. they had a great start of 2009 and has many more exclusives to come and those games look good.

@SocraticMethod: My next door neighbor had to flip his PS1 over for it to run. I used to make fun of him about it all the time.

My first PS2 got the DRE problems though; once I got my Slim, though, I never saw one again.

oh man!!! PS and mgs fanboys are gonna cry!!! may i say that i am one of them lol

@kw4k: especially doing cartwheels! GAH someone remove these images from my mind!

kw4k

@Spike-Strife: Not calling you a 360 fanboy, but I always hear them saying that about PS1 and PS2 and those consoles were WAY better build quality than 360s. I've never heard of having to turn a PS1 upside down for it to work, the PS2 Disc Read error was more common but nowhere near the epidemic that was (is?) the RROD.

@HJSoulma: not raiden's nakedness. i felt ashamed to play through that part :[

kw4k

@GoalieLax: I'm much more interested in last.fm than in MGS. And you'd be hard pressed to find someone more game-oriented than me.

emag

@KommanderKeith: You think I'm not press? Then how come one of my writers was in the room during Microsoft's presser and you weren't?

@Archaotic: lol you arnt press, YOU deal with that.

not to mention you still haven't given proof, i even said i don't care if its multi, my point is YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF.

OMG is that hard to understand, no i think not, well for people that don't suffer from the metal psychosis known as fanboyism that is.

Stop being a troll, damn.

good for xbox owners... its time they get one good game for the console after all this time :D

Jukka Rasmus

@Xcite79: It's nothing to do with insecurity. My 360 is dying. It will likely be fully dead by the time this game releases. Unless you're going to give me one that will never red ring on me and that costs me nothing, I'm not going to get hyped for the 360 version of a multiplatform game. :P

@Fede17: oh i have a PS3 and a 360, so its no actual concern haha.

pandafresh

@Archaotic:

That kind of bias hate is old now. How about stopping hating like a little school girl and be respectful of all consoles? No, feel insecure?

@KommanderKeith: i believe the keyword here is "hope", as in he hopes they're not paying for exclusivity. i think competition is healthy, but once the big dogs become afraid of it, they love to throw their $ around

kw4k

sounds like a spin-off to mer, there's no "5" in the title.

Dorikasu

@Archaotic:

Wow did every one forget u had to turn the ps1 upside down for the friggin thing to work, and i don't even want to go into the ps2 hardware problems where they wouldent even replace there consoles

now the ps3 might work good i dont know i don't have one but u can't make fun of the 360 when the first two playstations where made piss poor

I think Kojima "redeemed" Raiden in MGS4, so he has earned the right to star in a game in which he doesn't suck...

thesum

Finally, the survial of PS3 is getting slimmer. Once it has started, more MGS titles will be ported over to 360, like MGS and Residence Evil to GameCube. I honestly don't care if PS3 is no.1 or not coz I don't have Sony Stocks, all I care if if I can play that game, so hope this Rising is also multi-platform. Oh, $$$, all about $.

jellyfish

@Kamen Rider Gatack: Who's riding whose dick? I'm just stating the facts here. The game is going to be multiplatform. Microsoft would've said it was exclusive if it was. It's not. I don't see why people are getting so worked up.

And again. I'm quite hyped for ODST, Shadow Contract, and Crackdown 2. I might even buy Alan Wake. My alignment is Chaotic Neutral. I hate and love equally.

@Dyne1319: Please check the facts before posting.. :| Always a Sony title..? No.

@loempiavreter:

maybe PS3 and PSP. :P

Hezekiah Hicks

@Archaotic: agreed, i don't like it either. much like EA buying exclusive rights to the NFL franchise. 2k > EA for NFL

kw4k

@robpe36: Like Hideo said, a whole new experience. My guess is that Kojima is trolling Microsoft into making them believe that they're getting the good ol' MGS experience.. while they're getting something totally different.. which.. well.. who knows how it will turn out.

@super_machine:

Most likely for a Big Boss Game.

Hezekiah Hicks

@Archaotic:

Does Sony pay you to ride their dick?

@pandafresh:

Relax o.o...it's coming to the PS3 as well lol

Kojima is Japanese, do you really think Japanese people will need to get more 360s to play this? xD Considering how bad Microsoft is doing there... it will have to come to the PS3 some time too.

@Archaotic: Now that I calmed a little it'd also be stupid since there is a story about in Famitsu's PS3/PSP magazine with the Raiden pic. So it'd be insane if it wasn't multiplaform.

It's exclusive because the guy said "every game showed after this is exclusive to the xbox360"

Giandro Ongakwie

I was watching live stream and I admit when I saw Kojima, my heart dropped. But I'm glad he only bring Raiden to xbox.

@Dennen: crap, i thought it was the guy talking about Konami... I must be jumping threads too much

@KommanderKeith: Explain to me why Konami would take a multi-million selling game that's exclusive to one system, make a sequel to it exclusive to ANOTHER system, and ignore the fans they made in the first place. Konami's not that stupid, and Kojima's not that cruel.

Just be happy you're getting the game at all. I'm press. I have the PR connections. It's not exclusive. Deal with it.

I'm guessing it won't be exclusive considering how much of a slap in the face it would be to fans of the series who purchased PS3 just for MGS4 then to have the next installment jump ship to another console?

It would be better for Konami to go multi-plat on this. Just like FFXIII; Which is why Kojima didn't announce exclusivity. Also have to think about Kojima showing up at a previous PlayStation function talking about the next MGS; so he can't just take it away from PS3.

WHAT THE FUCK KOJIMA!? I WILL NEVER LUV U AGAIN UNTIL I WANT TO PLAY THIS, AND THEN I WILL. BUT UNTIL THEN, NO HUGZ 4 U.

pandafresh

@Monty: Why would Sony fanboys complain about Twin Snakes? They had the game like 5 years before that came out. Twin Snakes was a remake so no one cared. Other than the better graphics and FP controls, many things were worse than the original.

The reason people (me included) are saying it better be PS3 as well is because they already have an engine created for MGS, it sold like crazy for the smaller fanbase on PS3, and it would alienate their biggest demographic: PS3 owners.

The FFXIII complaining was mostly fanboy BS tbh. I just was worried it would delay the PS3 version.

MGR should be good. Hopefully it's mult-plat. If not there's still MGBB?(:D). Great show so far. And the Hideo Blog has a new podcast saying that the teaser site has more stuff to reveal. 4 more hours to go and this is only the begining!

Hezekiah Hicks

Wtf is lightning bolt action. I assume that means they're doing away with the tactical espionage action?

robpe36

@Archaotic:

"and I'd like to play it on working hardware"

BIGGEST TROLL BAIT EVER.

Seriously, and everyone fell for it.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: thats funny...i thought solid snake was in the first MGS.

pandafresh

@-MasterDex-:

THIS IS NOT METAL GEAR .. ITS FUCKING GAY RAIDEN GEAR
its like probably gonna be a suped up version of the sword fight with solidus ...

its probably gonna be short ... and filled with alot of gay... like a fricken bonus game

it will probably add nothing to the story either like that bullshit iphone game they tried to milk money out of

im pissed

the only thing thats rising is my frustration

id be surprized if he doesnt fuck xbox owners more n turns it somehow into an XBLA puzzle game

EMPEROR_COW

@Archaotic: Press F5 again.

@JessMeNU: If you don't play games... wtf are you doing here?

@Crayon Box of Fury: Sorry, you turd. For the record I am a PS3 owner without an Xbox360, hoping others could play it.

Hey_Blinkon

@Archaotic: You still fail to make any concrete points, and you also have no prof.

there was a point in the conference when they said all further games will be exclusive to our system.

and you are here saying that out of all of them mgs randomly doesn't follow the rule when there is no prof to back the claim.

I don't care if its not exclusive, my point is you are stating opinions as fact.

they dont care if fans toss a fit, cause they know people like the games so much they'd buy a new system to play it, you know KIND OF LIKE WHAT PEOPLE DID WITH MGS4

@Crayon Box of Fury: Jesus your some idiot.

@Curse_Lily: GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF!!!!

@pd771:

"All I can say is that Sony better have some serious shit up their sleaves or they are going to lose A LOT of money and devote fans. I nearly cried when I saw Kojima, fuuuuuck"

I don't see the word exclusive sir.

@ShotgunGorilla:

You tell that to the giant voice that said: "Raiden is back"

Gerard Cabarse

Raiden will finally get his widespread redemption. He got some with MGS 4, but now the 360 owners can finally see that he's not some little, naked whiny guy anymore.

@Thomas Henry Ward:

i sense premature ejaculation

EMPEROR_COW

@normalmode: I love that movie. Hearts for you normalmode.

@PrinceAlucard:

i think he's trying to escape it on purpose ...

hes shoving raiden in our fucking faces!

this is like the metal gear version of SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG

fuck him

EMPEROR_COW

@EnigmaNemesis: Well now since they are focusing on the Xbox (at least I think) this would be only 1 disc?

@Chris Memering: unfortunately, if you are a fan of the series, then you'd know that we are all gay for Snake. Despite, Raiden's new look, he's still a douchebag but a little less so. I was one of those people pissed off when we found out, that the major portion of MGS2 was us playing Raiden. If memory fails me, I think Raiden was created to get more of the female demographics into the MGS series, by putting a "pretty boy" into the spotlight. In MGS4, the new incarnation (don't know if I used that word or even the right word was used) of Raiden was to most likely pay for that mistake, as someone needs to take the helm after Snake is gone.

In any case, I'm still going to look into MGS5, regardless of snake not being there.

@Imtheredude: When I bought my consoles, I was in college and didn't have thousands of dollars in bills to pay. That is no longer the case, and I'm not wasting valuable rent money on another console. When my 360 dies, it dies for good and that's that.

And again. There are 4 and a half million people who bought MGS4 on PS3. Konami knows this. Kojima knows this. They will not alienate all of those people, as well as their Japanese fans, by making the game exclusive to 360. They didn't say it was exclusive ON PURPOSE because, guess what. It's not.

The reason it was announced at MS' press conference is because the announcement is a landmark for the series, being the first game on the 360. If it was exclusive, Microsoft would've said it a million times during the presser and in the PR e-mail Konami sent out afterwards.

@Faiz Isa:

to play with a fucked up mechanical emo girlie man ? give me a fucking break im pissed !!

EMPEROR_COW

I wanted to see MGS4... but this will do

My head just exploded. Holy shit this is one epic E3.

@Todd Jones Mustache Ride:

Although this is possible, I belive that if they where to continue on with Metal Gear, Sunny would be the new Otacon (was very close to him in 4, and was a computer/tech genius) and Raiden's son (at the end of 4) would carry on and replace/fight with his father as the new raiden.

fiffer86

@MaxDragon7: I expect several Sony fanboys to suddenly become disinterested with MGS now it's on the 360. It would follow the general feelings towards FFXIII after it came to the 360. I see so many comments about how MGS doesn't feel right on the 360 here, it's just deep fanboyism and very sad to see.

robbo_the_hood

@n00b_pwner:

Don't worry, there will always be a soda straw cleverly placed to keep gamers from feeling "funny".

raiden ...
on fucking 360...
hideo kojima is fucking with us ...

its gonna be some devil may cry bullshit game

i can understand now how it would be along the timeline but ... seriously ...

if its a new fucking metal gear it should be fucking MGS5 ... this is like ... oh hey .. come here 360 owners lool .. heres a cookie ... but the jar is in the big black box called ps3 ...

fuck this ... its like a bonus game ... like a fucking ... "fuck you" to 360 owners ...

i could be wrong ... but thats my first impression

EMPEROR_COW

@Archaotic: Exactly. It's like saying COD:WaW is not a direct Call of Duty title because it wasn't called COD5.

Maybe I should've used another analogy since I know you hate FPSs. ;)

@Archaotic: Sony fanboys whined the world over when FFXIII when multiplatform, yet when something comes out for 360 that they want, all of a sudden it had better be multiplatform or else the world will end.

Metal Gear as a franchise has already been on a Nintendo console, a Microsoft console, and of course, Sony's console. I don't remember Sony fanboy's whining when Twin Snakes came out for Gamecube. It's only when it come out for Microsoft's console that people start griping.

@Hey_Blinkon: me too, Raiden sucks

@0xC001D00D: Kojima =/= Konami. I think that's where you're going wrong, and if they (Konami) want sales, that's fine, but dividing your fan-base isn't a step in the right direction.

I think I've taken a perfectly understandable middle-ground, being that I've refrained from calling anyone a fanboy, which is more than one can say for some people (you), and stated only the extreme reasonable.

Personally, I think you're looking for rage, and for a chance to defend your hobby, or console of choice. I'm not going to nibble your bait, though.

@UncleScrotar: Criticizing them would entail I'm pointing out their faults, and telling them where they're going wrong. I haven't done that, in fact, I'm pretty sure I wished everyone buying it the best of luck.

@B33: I agree with you completely. Raiden sucks, the fans want Snake, why give them the queer little kid?

its not raiden, its sunny, raiden had blue eyes look man jesus

@casmith07:

I don't think Hideo would just jump up and screw Sony over like that. Xbox wanted a MGS, so they have been given a MGS. Doesn't mean it will be the exact MGS that will be available for the PS3, just the Xbox equivalent.

I think they are going to do what the Ghostbusters devs have done, and design each game to cater for a specified console.
The Xbox MGS will be developed to the best of the xbox's ability, taking into account lack of space on disc and non-mandatory HDD. Where as the PS3 MSG will be designed just as MGS4 was.

I think it is here where this ongoing battle of 'which console is better', 'has better graphics' is decided. MSG on both platforms will, I think, make or break the other.

Raiden.... RAIDEN? I wait all these years and all I get is FUCKING RAIDEN!? God damn it. .... I guess I'll have to get a PS3 eventually after all. This pisses me off so much.

@SsLordMagus: That's what I'm thinking it might be. I hope not though. Either way I bet I'll buy it, I'm a sucker for anything MGS.

thought tehy said every game announced would be exclusive, i assumed that included that game. maybe , maybe not...i dont care either way ill be getting a ps3 soon enough and already have a 360

Kougeru Matsuoka

@Gerard Cabarse:

Both of which were announced before they said "HEY, EVERYTHING BEYOND THIS POINT IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE 360"

Letiumtide

@pd771: The 360 has new guts now that don't fail apparently.

robbo_the_hood

I still think that's Sonny (the little girl from MGS 2 & 4) having undergone a similar procedure to Raiden.

Prediction: it's Olga, not Raiden. It's not exclusive, because they'd tout that like crazy.

@KommanderKeith:

+1

Imtheredude

@fiffer86: It's not about the money... I could afford an Xbox and a Wii, but the game catalog of each one are not interesting to me.

I will not buy a console for only a game again, already did with the gamecube and it's Metroid Prime.

rdcarvallo

@pd771: Uhhhh...the first gens were faulty. This is old news. The hardware has been steadily improving and MSoft customer service and warranty is better than average. Personally I've had 1 first gen system die and my second one is fine. Don't see the big news here. If you are so afraid of the hardware failing then don't buy it. That's fine. Why you are on here trying to convince everyone else to be afraid of their own shadow is beyond me.

jf04gli

@Slagathorian: I guess I'm in the minority, but my 360 experienced the RROD once about a year a half ago, and that's the only problem I have ever experienced with it. I've never had one problem with disc scratching or any error messages after countless hours and many games. Some of you people try to make it seem like this happens to every console.

@Bergerac: I think it's Big Boss on PSP myself, and this on PS3/360.

@B33:

No, the series ended with Snake Eater.

Boooooooooooooooo. Booooooooooooo, MGS is a Sony title always has been. If this is exclusive i will have to begrudgingly buy and pray that the damn 360 doesn't crap out again.

@Gregor Boyd: Lol. Best comment I've ever heard from a Facebooker. Nice one! :)

@jcb231: Thank you! all this pathetic fanboy idiocy was starting to drive me insane... nice to see there are still some rational people out there.

@indyit just wants exams to end.: so funny considering the first ever metal gear was on a microsoft platform...

@Crayon Box of Fury: Judging by his comment history I'd say yes. Seriously, this guy has some douchey comments.

Fine with me. If this is a spin-off game, so be it. So long as the REAL MGS5 is announced for PS3 soon.

@-[[CHoZO]]-: thanks for the grammar lesson grandpa. but i'd advise you to look up the definition of "coy" before correcting someone else - i think i'd rather be guilty of (intentionally) leaving a word out than use of malapropism. ;)

@TriplEEE13: So you saying you know better then Hideo that just said it was a MGS game? would you be saying thing if it was announced for the PS3? I bet not. You'd be all over it like white on rice.

@Dennen: He said if it was an exlusive it would lose fans.

I don't think it's exclusive. I'm glad Metal Gear Solid 4 is staying exclusive though. Not because I'm a fanboy so much but it's nice to see the story end where it is on that platform.

@SocraticMethod:
Maybe it will be like a Ninja Gaiden game but in a MGS universe...

SsLordMagus

Diddnt he say the whole franchise and this game is coming to the 360..or was i deaf...

@KommanderKeith: It's still a sequel to a franchise with an established fanbase on another console. Numbers don't matter. If Epic were to announce Gears of War: The Beginning exclusively for PS3 tomorrow, 360 fanboys would throw a fucking fit regardless of whether it was a numbered entry or not.

@Sparx: Right. And as I said, Konami's PR e-mail doesn't mention exclusivity at all. It's pretty clear that this is multiplatform, as I'm sure we'll all see when the final countdown expires in two hours.

@liquidxtension: Really? cause I thought that clearly scripted moment just came across as awkward and wooden.

I bet the Big Boss picture is for the new MG psp title, while Raiden stood for this title.

loempiavreter

This wont be exclusive. Ms would have used this as major bragging rights during their conference. That how they role, and since they didn't I doubt this game will be exclusive. After all, didnt some Japanese PS magazine feature an interview with Kojima about an upcomming MG game?

super_machine

Not interested Raiden is a weak character and one I couldn't stand so I will not play another game with him as the main character.

@-[[CHoZO]]-:

It is? Then they've taken a big blow in 2002 with Substance and later on when TTS was GC only.

...I hope you were right, Daulerio.

@Sir-Lucius: Did you see the number 5 in the vido at all? cause this isnt a numbered sequal, so your metaphor doesn't fit now does it?
What about THAT is so hard to understand?

@Archaotic:

Of course its not exclusive. If it was then why would the interview about the new game be featured in the PS mag?

@EnigmaNemesis:

Im hoping a billion discs. That will be a whole lot of gameplay! Now just to figure out the material cost for the billion disc packaging.

fiffer86

@MaxDragon7:
Oh My God! O_O

SsLordMagus

@the7k: Hold your horses fella. you just heard about it. lol

This could be an interactive puzzle game for all you know, and it might not be exclusive. this title is definitely misleading in that way.

@0xC001D00D: Stop pointing fingers dude. MS has been known to buy exclusives for a long time, they don't deny it.

And don't try and tell me about MG's origins, I know them. I can't stand people who yell "Fanboy!" like crazy.

A little part of me died inside. What is this world coming to.

@Hey_Blinkon: Just let it go, I mean 10 years can go by and peeps are still gonna be hoping for an MGS4 port to 360, u got a brand new game we all could enjoy, so there lol.

new_age_soldier

@Tuggie:

How is this going to get them to lose "A LOT" of money and devoted fans?

Kojima is making a brand new Metal Gear game that is, most likely, going to be multi console. We'll probably hear some bullshit over the following months until release about "exclusive DLC". And all in the meanwhile, both consoles will still be releasing fantastic games.

I don't see where the loss is.

@Kakuki: Um This is called Metal Gear Solid : Rising not Metal Gear Rising.

@BONERJAM: Technely it's MGR, not MGS lol.

new_age_soldier

@Fallible.: Amen.

Your post has made me refrain from a rant of my own.

Now I can do other things like get back to work...

BoTheDestroyer

@-MasterDex-: Too late.

@Hey_Blinkon: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!

Wonder how many DVDs it will be on?

Taking bets on guesses!

Anywho, seriously not shocked at all. This is how this gen is going, especially with timed and exclusive purchasing by the green giant.

I am interested in seeing what this game is about.

@turbofreak: Think of it. We knew raiden would have his own game do to the picture of him that popped up. But, dont you remember the big boss face? If this game is multiplatform, that means they probaby made a MG engine for the 360, but specifically for raiden. With the PS3's MGS4 engine, it could do both raiden AND big boss, as big boss would probably be like snake with a cooler skin on and possibly more gameplay mechanics. I think PS3 owners will get both games regardless, and this will be the only one on 360, unless it happens to sell amazingly.

I think xbox peeps are still worrying about that MGS4 port lol.

new_age_soldier

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Still subjective, regardless.

B33

@MGSM: every thing you metnioned were all good points, but I never said I didn't like Raiden: I loved MGS2 And thought Raiden was pretty friggin Badass in it.

I'm looking Forward to this game with Raiden (deservingly)as the main character and am wondering how old BB is going to factor into the story. :)

I actually would have been more surprised if it "wasn't" announced. Seriously, who didn't see this coming?

xXKDashXx

@jcb231:

I know exactly how you feel. But I personally dont see how people cant afford both systems. Spending money elsewhere on entertainment... sure, but not having the money... highly doubt it. $1000 in a 3-4 year period is a very small amount of money... and that's all it takes to get both systems.

fiffer86

@shefakedit21:

i loved him in mgs2, open your mind and you will too.

MGSM

@Fallible.:

Bitter much? I'm sure MS PAID Kojima to develop this game, because Kojima seems like the type who LOVES payoff and in turn LOVES catering to what everyone else wants him to do. Riiigghhtttt.

So basically you're criticizing Microsoft for doing what Sony did last generation. MS would be retarded NOT to use the ONE thing that makes them powerful (money) in order to increase the popularity of their console. If MS hadn't tossed millions left and right to try and acquire some exclusives (timed or otherwise) and yank some titles away from Sony they'd be up shit creek without a paddle. Survival of the fittest my friend.

Unreliable... ZING.

@Bergerac: I think Big Boss on PSP is more likely.

I own both consoles so it doesnt really matter to me. What question is on my mind though is if David Hayter is going to voice big boss or not :)

asbestos

@grantanamo: Exactly. MGS"5" was pretty much always expected to be multiplatform, and in that regard I guess it kinda makes sense for it to be announced at Microsoft's presser.

However, Konami and Kojima know their fans are on PS3, and I really don't think they're going to abandon all of them. If they do go exclusive (which, according to the PR e-mail I got from Konami, does not appear to be the case), they'd be pissing off a lot of people and losing a lot of return sales. I can't see Kojima being that cruel.

@Fallible.: "Stealing (buying) titles from other consoles".
What the hell are you saying? Kojima doesn't work for Sony, he wants to do an xbox game because it will sell a shitload.
This announcement started a flood of fanboysm rage...

The only new-gen platform I own is PS3 (not a fanboy) and the only games I own are Metal Gear Solid 4 and Mirror's Edge. All I can say is that the next games I will own are Metal Gear Solid 5 and MIRROR'S EDGE 2!! I CANT WAIT

MGSM

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: You think Portable Ops is a better game than any of it's console counterparts? Certainly not fact.

@0xC001D00D: Personal experience can always differ from the statistical average. I'm not saying the 360 doesn't have exclusives I'd want to play, or features I wish the PS3 had, but if I'm going to make an investment for a system, I want it to have less than a 5% failure rate. Especially since I'm the guy who marathons games, I want to trust whatever I'm putting a thousand dollar plus investment (with controllers games, peripherals). The 360 has historically shown me I can't trust, even if I like some of its benefits.

I see the trolls are having a field day. They need to stop embarrassing themselves with such obvious flame bait (or better yet, refrain from commenting altogether), because nobody is "winning" or "losing" - as long as you own either of these two platforms, you will likely get a chance to enjoy it. Now stop this puerile bickering at once - you can be a proud owner of a console, but you shouldn't need to give others flak for preferring one or another. This kind of pride is sickening, it reminds me of patriotism.

@Alex_Mexico: Yeah, the only part of this announcement I actually have a problem with is the fact that the word Solid appears in the title, Metal Gear Rising makes much more sense.

@SwindleUK:

"Mr. Tambourine Man

12:58 PM

4 words

OH MY FUCKING GOD"
I don't even OWN an XBOX man. But that will probably change now...

@NexusSIX: "It's Ok. He's just gay for Snake"

Haha, fits perfectly here.
Gotta love the Hitler videos...

Chris Memering

@Archaotic: Seeing as how they said being developed for (and I'm assuming they would use the PS3 engine already), how crazy would it be if Sony pulled a timed exclusive on MGS:R. I never imagined the new version would being anything but multiplat, and I would see that as a major win. But that's just speculation at this point. I just hope it does come to the PS3 considering I am a dualshock fan and always will be.

grantanamo

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I dont't mean this to you but to everyone in general.
When you pick a side in the console wars the only one that loses is you. If people can't afford all 3 consoles thats one thing, but if you refuse to buy one console because of loyalty to another you're just cheating yourself out of some great games.
Don't think that Microsoft, Nintendo, or Sony have any intrest in you besides financially.

@Paddy Obrien: Go back to just reading Kotaku and not commenting. I hate when E3 comes around, it brings it the trolls in droves.

@walls99: You could just get the PS3 version.

@joshfigueroa:

good idea, but you pay?

MGSM

@MaxDragon7: I've no qualms with the series expanding onto the Xbox 360 platform.

I'm simply skeptical about the title itself.

Again, that could very well change as more is revealed.

B33

@TriplEEE13: That's too bad because Kojimas sure as hell counting it along with the rest of the core fans.

@KommanderKeith: Look at the situation. It would have been like Epic being like "Sup guys, Gears of War 2 is gonna be a PS3 exclusive now. Thanks for everyone buying our game on the 360, now go buy a PS3 for part 2!" You don't release the game as an exclusive on one system, build a fanbase, and then move to the next in the same damn generation. Konami would have been dumb as shit to release a new MGS game exclusive to the 360, seeing as many people bought a PS3 just for MGS4. What about that is so hard to understand?

Sir-Lucius

@B33: I'm at work, but did they say it really is Raiden? Still not convinced by those eyes, which aren't blue. It might be someone else with the codename Raiden too. Sunny or Little Jack?

@MGSM:

Good ONE!!! Cause that happened with MGS2 Substance when it came over to the original Xbox right? Cause the PS3 doesn't have a just as many "action shooting games" as the 360? Riiiggghhhttttt. Seriously fanboys need to find a hobby... a hobby that doesn't involve MG. IT'S A GAME. It belongs on as many systems as possible for more people to enjoy. Besides, an ORIGINAL game featuring only Raiden SHOULD have a different feel than one featuring Snake...

@casmith07:

Sounds like your not giving Kojima enough credit :P

Although it would be cool for there to be 3 new exclusive titles, 1 for each console, but I kind of doubt it.

And I personally don't want to play as Big Boss/Solid Snake... would kind of take away the epic ending of MGS4. MGS4 was more or less designed to finish that Story. But there is allot of territory to explore elsewhere in the Metal Gear universe.

At the same time that's why I believe Kojima didn't want to make Metal Gear Solid games anymore, because the fanbase loved Snake way too much and didn't allow him to have any artistic control without disappointing the fans... even if the game had a great story, and great gameplay. ~cough~ MGS2 ~cough~

fiffer86

@Muisee: Not if it doesnt happen to sell.

@Bergerac: Multiplatform or no, this is a blow to Sony.

-[[CHoZO]]-

@SocraticMethod: fanboysm... also mgs was both on pc and xbox, and metal gear was born on MSX

@MGSM: I agree with you completely on this one.... although I felt part of the plot got lost in MGS2. Everything fits story-wise with some exceptions in MGS2... imo at least. But yeah, poor Solid Snake... born, raised and lived for the simple purpose of being a soldier.

indyit just wants exams to end.

@Jose Fortuna: As of now, i would like this game on the PS3, but if this one and the big boss one are two seperate games, then i would choose big boss over raiden any day.

@normalmode:

I agree with you for now, but I hope the release of the game will make me change my mind...i hope it will be awesome...

MGSM

@Archaotic: but you are assuming MS is paying for it, and sony doesnt. Im sure konami loves sony so much that they decided not to make more money going multiplat.

You are going on assumptions, so stop acting like they are facts, okay?

@BlueBadger: All I know is that I have a raging clue.

I watched the conference streamed on IGN and the second I saw Kojima I kept paying attention for the word 'exclusive', which never came :)

I'm sure Sony will be announcing it for PS3 during their conference. This time around I don't mind if its multiplatform actually. At least it gives 360 users something to play from the MGS series. I much prefer a new multiplat game to a port of MGS 4. That would've angered me as it's the main reason I got a PS3. I want it to remain exclusive. It's one of the PS3's biggest games.

As somebody that HATES rabid fanboyism over any console, I hope this is exclusive to the 360 just so Sony fanboys head's explode. Just like how I hope MGS4 stays exclusive to the PS3 forever to irk Xboxers who will insist it's coming "next year" for the rest of eternity.

Get over it, everybody. There are multiple consoles in this world and they all have their pros and cons and exclusives. It's one thing to only be able to afford one console and express hope that a game comes to it...that's fine. Expressing ANGER that your favorite series can now be played by more fans is just assinine.

jcb231

@pd771: my xbox is just fine and i paid it the half of a ps3, but still: pc gaming rules :D

@B33: I am highly interested in Metal Gear: Rising, unlike you.

I myself feel that the 360 deserves a MGS title. Kojima has not yet mentioned an exclusive, so we should wait to see what happens.

Raiden is awesome! Are you kidding me? :D

@joshfigueroa:

Completely true. I was an assertive PS3 fanboy until I picked up a 360 cause of an impulse buy due to that GOW commercial. (Yes that sappy trailer with the sappy song hooked me line and sinker)

And you know what, it isn't bad at all... it's great.

There are so many 360 exclusives that are honestly retarded awesome great games that my buyers remorse was gone the instant I picked up Mass Effect.

The consumer is the lucky one, we have two great companies vying for our money and doing alot of great things for video game/interactive entertainment not to mention making some spectacular games.

The winner here is choice, yea it was nice to have my exclusive PS3 games all to myself but hey, great games are great games regardless of system.

I'm glad that every 360 owner that hasn't gotten a chance to play a Kojima production is getting theirs.

@pd771:

" All I'm saying is I won't by the 360, which I couldn't trust, to play a single game, no matter how much I love MGS."

"Which i couldn't trust" really? My roommates PS3 died after 2 months, my 360's still going 2 years later... did that experience stop me from buying a PS3 when i moved out? Hell no. Hardware failure can happen to ANY piece of hardware at any time, granted the older 360's were pretty shady, you'd be fine now. Fanboy much?

As for the new announcement, let the good times roll. I bought my PS3 for MGS4 and KZ2 (and fell in love with a little game called Uncharted along the way) and I'm sure my 360's itching for some MG action...

@SG79: it doesn't sound fun, that's for damn sure. I'm not a fan of running around with the HF Blade for 12 hours.

Sounds like it could play similar to Devil May Cry.

casmith07

@Kakuki: I would, but the pawns quake in fear and run in sheer terror when they see my face -_-

@MrBionic:
*Hands in 5000 gold pieces*
That's all I got for now I swear. I'm good to get the rest of it for you next weak. Please don't break my legs.

It's actually quite fitting.
360 is like Raiden compared to the Big Boss PS3 is!

Cesar Hernandez

@rich8606:

Just like CoD: MW2 or Rock Band: Beatles?

Aww.

D;

Gerard Cabarse

@undefined:

I still contend Big Boss on PS3, tomorrow.

Bergerac

Should have been you MGS 4....

FoxHoundADAM

@KommanderKeith: Did you see me in the Crackdown 2 thread? I'm also quite hyped for Shadow Contract. I play my 360, but I don't like it when Microsoft pays off companies for exclusivity. Especially when the franchise in question already has a version on PS3 that sold nearly 5 million copies; going 360 exclusive would alienate a large chunk of those fans. It would be a bad idea, and you can't argue any way else.

As I've said before, this game is multiplatform and I'm fine with that. Don't be an idiot.

it says "lightening bolt action"? maybe that means less "tactical espionage" action and instead some faster, less stealth and more assault-like action??

href="#c13243635">Archaotic: It is most definitely Multi-platform, they would have said "It's a 360 exclusive!" like 40 times if it was not.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Just something I should add to your videos here.

+ Watch video

Watch the last 20 seconds (fun little secret there), or the entire video, for your viewing pleasure. :D

@LennyGc:

thats exactly what i am afraid of

MGSM

@EG99:

Why dont you just pick up a PS3 and play it? Although MGS4 would be cool if it came out for the 360... it would hurt everybody that owns both consoles/the people that don't have console elegance. In my opinion there is no excuse for not owning both systems, yet complaining about XYZ exclusive.

fiffer86

As one of the few people who didn't like the MGS series from the get go, I give this announcement a big "Meh."

Gray665

@Tuggie: I think we all knew it was gonna happen. I read anything that had to do with metal gear solid 4, up until the day it released, and it was heavily suggested that MGS5 wouldn't be exclusive to PS3.

@Fallible.: Thanks for saying pretty much everything that I wanted to.

Wow, that's sooner than expected. If it's announced at Microsoft's keynote than I pretty sure it's exclusive.

rich8606

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: If this one happens to be a 360 exclusive, the one featuring Big Boss should be a PS3 exclusive, thus still giving us the better game. :P if that's how it all turns out, then i dont give a shit about this game. I just want me a handfull of big boss!!

I liked how the president of xbox said solid snake is coming to the 360, Kojima retorted and went "Solid Snake? I didn't say anything about Solid Snake."

It's massive news if it's an untitled MGS 5 as opposed to a MGS: Ghost Babel that I'm leaning towards :)

@[instantrimshot.com]

Swamphunter

@Alamosh: Quick! Get the lantern!: you really aren't though,

Mr. Tambourine Man
12:58 PM

4 words

OH MY FUCKING GOD

BubbleF**kingBuddy
12:57 PM

Sweetest salty fanboy tears, I will be drinking them tonight.

I hope you enjoyed this epic gen, because this is your last fight.

When I heard of MG Rising, I damn near almost died.

It's as if I heard a Sony lover shudder, before he fell and cried.

SwindleUK

So is Kojima doing this?

Big Boss = PSP
Snake = PS3
Raiden = XBOX360

To be completely honest, I really could care less for this game regardless if it were a PS3 exclusive or not. I was among the throngs of fans that were pissed off that MGS2 featured Raiden for 3/4ths of the game. I'm also upset now, not that MGS is on the XBox because I really could care less about the fanboyism, but that now the game - if multiplatform - will essentially be dumbed down on the PS3 in order to compensate and make it equal on both. Either that or it'll be on like 3 or 4 DVDs for Xbox 360.

I don't know I just don't see running around with the HF Blade for 10-12 hours of gameplay as being a good time.

casmith07

No fair, I wanna play as raiden on the ps3 lols

xxAlucarDraculax

MS just fucked UP both Nintendo and Sony. I am interested to see what they are bringing...

Lokicharms

Well Kojima, you're gonna lose a lot of fans.
Including me.

Edward Kaj

@Slagathorian:

I really don't mind MGS going to the XBOX, I would even like for the xbox owners that all MGS games go to xbox. What I don't want though is that MGS's substance and atmosphere and style changes going from one platform to the other.

MGSM

@Poul Wrist: I'm on my 5th 360. And first PS3. Both systems do die, but you'd be a fool to think that it isn't WAY more common for your 360 to conk out.

But forget the RROD, how about the numerous times the 360 scratches the crap out of your game discs? Or display the "please insert an Xbox 360 game disc" message half an hour into a game playing session?

@Archaotic: Funny how its OK for 4 to be exclusive, but when 36o gets something, if its exclusive then you are saying konami is being stupid.

the whole rest of the year you act like you play all systems, but once e3 shows up you start showing how thats not true at all

@Paddy Obrien: And you're still not getting the last title, so stop being a dick. The game is multiplatform, you didn't "win" anything.

@Warren Marshall: True to an extent.
Because this aint MGS4 or a proper MGS game. Its a game from the MG franchise with a RISING at the end. No Solid Snake or look-alikes starring.

Microsoft did it very big this year

xblacknightxz

Well..it was announced at the M$ show...so while it's not exclusive, it's definitely being developed on 360 NOW...so no wait.

hiruu

@abcFRAG: You're kidding, right? 8 million? If you mean being MULTIPLATFORM, the total sales might've been close to that, but I seriously doubt it would've sold 8 mil on 360 alone. That's insane.

FUCK... This is cool and all, but I was hoping for MGS4 for the Xbox 360 :(

This is going to be a first person-based RTS. You heard it here first folks! =P

Seriously though, this game will probably play like DMC/GoW, which will be kind of cool, but mindless. At least the story would be interesting (for MGS fans at least).

Please don't go 360 exclusive!!

@B33: There's a difference IMO. In MGS 2, no one knew they were just going to be Snake for the first hour of the game and the rest as Raiden. I think that's what ultimately pissed so many people off.

@Archaotic: they said all the rest of the games being shown are exclusive, which is why they didn't say it every time after that

@excel_excel: WHAT IT IS! IS THERE A SPIDER ON YOUR HAIR?

@pd771:

Which is funny because most 360 owners had no interest in buying otherwise useless hardware for the last title :D

Paddy Obrien

@Shooter McGavin:

well if you buy the MGS4 strategy guide, you realize that Big Boss lost sight of The Boss's dream as well. Yes he separated from the Patriots, but he created a devastating and merciless violent nation ran by anarchy: Outer Heaven. Big Boss had his own sins also, he was blinded by his anger and rage, and as I said he lost sight of the real purpose he initially fought for. As for Solid Snake, his tale is the tale of a man who never existed but as a soldier, who was a pawn all his life, with no memories, family, love, and in MGS4, Ocelot delivered him from his miserable life, while at the same time giving them both redemption for their past, and freeing the world from the Patriots. Snake's tale is a tale of discovering who he is, and it is very tragic. Cuz he's been a pawn all his life doesn't make him not a hero. And if you actually followed the metal gear story, you'd come to realize that almost all characters were pawns, and guess what, they're all heros. and I love raiden from MGS2 also. He's a hero.

MGSM

@Indy_aka_Rex: FOR THE LAST TIME
MGR (they really should drop the "Solid" in the title) is NOT Xbox 360 exclusive.

Yea, I'm glad your not playing as Snake/Big Boss... again. They finished that story, I don't want to play as Solid Snake when he is in a wheelchair. Seriously, I find it funny that so many people where looking forward to "Metal Gear Solid: Old Crippled Man Edition".

Well for the rest (most?) of you go back and hide under your rock because of change.

fiffer86

@B33: The last MGS game on Xbox was substance....look how well it did....
Hideo what happened? Forgotten your mistakes already?
I demand to be appeased and quickly!

@SocraticMethod: Well, Konami was crazy and didn't put the MGS4 game on Xbox 360, it would have sell 8 millon, easily.

abcFRAG

@B33: Incorrect. ROSE'S ANNOYING PRESENCE is what caused backlash. ;)

If you go back and play MGS1, Snake is just as clueless as Raiden is in the sequel. ROSE is the true culprit.

Lighting Bolt Action? Sounds like this may be a full out action game.

@Gregor Boyd: LOL
I actually laughed out loud.
Thanks, Facebooker.

fucking son of a bitch. WHY

@woons:

+ Watch video

@saintdestroy: Oh yeah? From the trivia contest? You did get the game right?

normalmode

Not ZOE3, which means I don't care.

Konami has failed me, let's hope Capcom doesn't do the same...

Sigh.

Microsoft has money to throw around, and when they do, innocent franchises are broken. This title will be no different. The 'lightning bolt action' slogan alone is enough to convey that, in that it doesn't seem to be an MGS title in the traditional sense, perhaps it'll be a Ninja Gaiden-type game, or an FPS.

Exclusivity is a joke in it's own right, but the people lambasting PS3 owners on here seem to forget that they very rarely get a break. Call of Duty, which isn't even out yet, has already announced that the first batch of DLC will be (timed) exclusive to the 360.

Stealing (buying) titles from other consoles doesn't really build up a strong argument as to why the 360 shouldn't be knocked where and when it's deserved, if you ask me.

Anyway, enjoy your MGS. This will either dispel, at last, the 360 doesn't need Blu-Ray and has just as pretty graphics as the competition, or signal the need for change on what is an already aging - often unreliable - console.

@KaneTaker: so you didn't hear the part where they said "I hope you enjoyed seeing all those exclusive titles and now we're moving on to xbox live" or something close to that?
Quoting Kathartik

so true.

Lol, this was a bit of a shock.

OddOne

@Alex_Mexico: Imagine though, that Rising sells just as much on the 360 as 4 sold on PS3.

Working on the logic that most of those people wanted 4, that would be doubling the market of 4. I think working it to a 4 disker, some extra compression, and redoing some voice-work would make that still remain quite profitable.

not to mention no non-biased, irrifutable evidence has ever showen that MGS4 would every have any issues besides those common to ports.

Cerabret100

u people understand to play the MGS with snake series u need a PS3.... this is NEW with raiden... nothing to do with MGS4

Damianh

@normalmode: Oh shit it's normalmode. I won a free game off you.

saintdestroy

@Jose Fortuna: Totally... I'm also thinking it's going to be a hack and slash game, since it's starring raiden... therez no other way to control a ninja!

@Poul Wrist: But only one has an embarrassing failure rate. Can you guess which one?

nukee

@Kai200X: I will be reserving my cries of "BACKSTABBER!!!!" until after Sony's show. If there's no MG announcement there, then I will go on my "KOJIMA IS A BACKSTABBER!!!" rampage. Until then, I'll continue to watch the internet break.

PlatformJunkie

@Nightshift Nurse: MGR is not exclusive. Microsoft would've left no room for any doubt if it was in fact exclusive.

End of discussion.

@Gregor Boyd:

Yes.

YES.

Gerard Cabarse

@B33:

Well the backlash was because, at the time, it was a bait-and-switch.

@Kai200X: Again. Big Boss is a PSP game. We already know this. Not to mention the fact that the game is not mentioned to be exclusive anywhere on the presser or on the PR e-mail I got from Konami. It's an exclusive ANNOUNCEMENT. The game is multiplatform.

gUESS ILL BUY MYSELF A 360

Chrinkster

@Archaotic:

Remember the Famitsu hint? This is definitely multiplatform.

I guess as a Sony fanboy it's only fair and decent to admit Xbox getting the new Metal Gear title has pretty much completely made me rage even if the PS3 gets it too.

That is all.

MikoKeZ

for some reason, I'm not as pumped as I thought I was gonna be :/

InsaneMoogle

Microsoft probably gave him a solid gold house and a rocket car to make another mgs.

PrinceAlucard

oh ok i get it!! im putting my money that there will be 2 games!! think about it!! there will be one with raiden on the 360 and another with big boss on the ps3!! holyshit!!

Abner Torres

@Archaotic: Don't worry this is multiplatform.
I doubt Kojima would ignore 4M people and their money who bought MGS4.

Now there is no such thing as console exclusivity any more when it comes to 3rd party. Final Fantasy AND Metal Gear SOLID both going to Xbox 360? Two of Playstation's strongest 3rd party supporters? Where the money goes, the developers will surely follow, cause this stuff sure as hell ain't cheap to produce.

@Gossy... strictly 4 my ninjas: More drugs for this man. I say we got him hopped up on whatever we can and let him cut loose.

Sir-Lucius

@pd771: So you haven't played 4 yet?

Popelmaster

@BONERJAM: Yeah, same here and I just want to say to all the PS3 fanboys who shot me down when I suggested a 360 Metal Gear during the countdowns:

HAH! Up your holes!.

*cough* kay, think I'm done for now. :D

-MasterDex-

@woons: I'll admit he's a far better character now than what he was in MGS 2.

Though I still ca not distill the sense of dismay towards the concept.

Perhaps my opinion on the matter will change when the actual plotline is revealed.

B33

@MGSM: The gameplay will be different most likely too. "Lightning Bolt Action" sounds like it'll play like Kingdom Hearts (not necessarily a bad thing) instead of "Tactical Espionage Action".

@Hey_Blinkon: Same but I guess 360 owners will have to settle for knowing future MG games will be hitting the console.

Muisee

@Archaotic: It will probably be an exclusive, but dont forget about the Big Boss.

@Brandon Fletcher: My thoughts exactly.
MGS4 for the 360 would've been a bigger announcement.

@adthomson: LOLOLOL Is this guy for real?

@SG79:

Whats so wrong with Raiden? I could see if this was back in MGS2 days, the reason to hate on Raiden... but anybody that bash's Raiden after 4, I cant help but feel they have never touched the series.

fiffer86

@Tim Reilly:

I know what you are referring to. The minigame right? Well you are not the only one who thinks it might be something like this.

@The Forgetful Brain:
you should buy the 10$ strategy guide of MGS4. it explains everything you need to know and everything you dont even suspect about the Metal Gear timeline from 1900 to 2014. it is really necessary if you want to know the whole story and the motivations of all characteres (vengeance, redemption)

MGSM

@the7k: It is not exclusive to the 360.

@Hey_Blinkon: In before PS3 fanboy attacks you for saying that.

-MasterDex-

@BlueBadger:
Your Critic avatar made me laugh my ass off after reading your closing line.

@Hey_Blinkon: Wasn't this proof enough that it won't happen?

Here, listen, I'll say it nice and concise:

Sony consoles get Metal Gear Solid with a canonical number.
Everything else (iPhone, Xbox) gets Metal Gear Solid with a spin-off word.

Catch the difference?

Monorail Cat (NO MEANS YES)

@adthomson: Seriously?

I have a sickening feeling that tomorrow, during Sony's press conference, Kojima will pull off the greatest pawnage by negating MGS Rising 's announcement.

venkat55

@Hey_Blinkon: That's pretty much a given its not happening. The last stand was this year's E3.

Bringing a port of a 2 year old game, if they were still thinking about that, next year is just dumb and unneeded.

Lightning Bolt Action? I think I'd rather have my good old Tactical Espionage Action.

lightweaponx

So Metal Gear Online for 360..? Maybe then Id have some initiative to actually play it..

WalterMelon

@Grind_Axis:

Hmm, you may be right..

tormenta3001

@Crayon Box of Fury:

You're right, Hey_Blinkon's statement was WAY out of line!

kNZA

@ben72227:
Actually this is the beginning of the MGR franchise.
MGS ended with MGS4 like Kojima-san said.

@Archaotic: Yes, because no PS3 ever died ... you really should stop displaying yourself as a retard who doesn't keep up with the times.

Poul Wrist

@Cerabret100: If you build a game form the ground up to be multiplatform it WILL work, dude.

What people say is that MGS4 was built for the PS3 and with BluRay in mind, THAT game wouldn't work without making big changes (beginning by removing all the PS3, PSP, Blu Ray and Apple references).

@B33:

Did you miss the part when he became he completely fucking awesome badass in MGS4?

woons

The more people that play Kojima's games... The Better... I've played and loved every console mgs... It's only fair that people without ps3s get a chance at Metal Gear...

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: All I can say is that Sony better have some serious shit up their sleaves or they are going to lose A LOT of money and devote fans. I nearly cried when I saw Kojima, fuuuuuck

@walls99: it's not exclusive

Good lord... Raiden? No no no no no...

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun:

Please return to your "System Wars" thread on Gamespot. Comments like yours are not welcome.

@tormenta3001:
You know he will. Hell, the 360 can't do 1080p, much less run on 120 hz...

@pd771: Every game shown in the presser that was exclusive, MS did a hell of a job to say it was.

MGR they clearly avoided the word "exclusive" and just say "its coming to Xbox 360".

Rest assured, this is multiplat.

Im just concerned that this game won't be up to par to MGS4 due to its exclusive nature of milking every ounce of power from a single console (this works for both 360 and PS3, exclusive game usually look and work better).

How involved is Kojima though? I mean Metal Gear Solid: Baby's would sell if Kojima directed it, but if he's not directing then I can tell you that the bar has been set too high for anyone else to live up to the Metal Gear name.

Lightning Bolt Action?

Me thinks itll be some kind of devil may cry/ninja gaiden action game

Scott J

cant wait to get this for my ps3

SILVERAMMO

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: I'm a Diablo Fanboi Hunter. That was my trap, and you ruined it.

You owe me 20,000 gold and the Immortal King set.

Sounds like an action title, considering they dropped tactical espionage action moniker.

Grind_Axis

And the internets asploded.

nah if it were exclusive it would have been in the "exclusives segment" they had.

Scott J

Great news! Its crazy however how badly the fanboys are acting up... (expected though). This game is going to be amazing, you know considering Raiden is one of Kojima's favorite characters/creations. Doubt he will let this game slip.

fiffer86

@SocraticMethod:

me too, i have nothing against XBOX im not a immature fanboy, but metal gear on Xbox...it doesnt seem right. i fear that mgs is gonna loose its substance and become kind of only an action shooting game , im afraid thats whats going to happen in that new game with raiden. raiden is now considered ''really cool'' because of mgs4, so they plan on using him on the xbox to please the shooting game lovers. i hope not

MGSM

@xxAlucarDraculax: only set on fire. Daily flame.

It's kind of like a double-edged sword.
360 fans were clamoring for MGS on their system, and they got it - except Raiden's the main character. It's not like they specifically asked for a game with Solid Snake or Big Boss as the protagonist (to be fair they were asking for a port of MGS4). Hey if this game has Octo-camo you could always have the mask look like Snake.

Jaffy Crisologo

nice and all but i want MGS 4 on 360.... will ps3 get this or will they get MGS 5

ShaggyB

@EGBTMagus: For now, like i said above, Rising sales and reception could completely change that.

Cerabret100

@Hey_Blinkon: I'd still like to see you choke on your own blood.

@SocraticMethod:
Film: Old Yeller?

Beloved dog (kotaku) gets bitten with rabies, and has to be put down? Rabies being these stupid fanboy explosions.

Seems to happene every year at this time....but why??

I see another Hardy Boys mystery coming along!!!

xD I'm not worried about this at all!

The only reason they're doing this, is because they CAN'T bring MGS4 to the 360.

PS3 fan boys are not losing anything.

Doesn't the countdown end in three hours anyways? o.o Plus.. they've only showed Raiden.

Now, where is my Big Boss? I need moar Big boss action.

At least the Sony Fanboys will always have the Sony MYLO...cough oops....PSP GO!

GoonieGooGoo2

MGS Rising! exclusive or not it will be good. Its a lil late to be porting MGS4 IMO.... so for tomorrows conferecne there will be a Kojima announcement for MGS on psp I assume?

silentknome

@stoneflysoldier: I was hoping, too.
Hey, MGS ended with 4. Now it'll simply _start_ with Rising. Scratch that, MGS is a subset of MG, and MGR is another subset.

@ThatMiamiDude: so you didn't hear the part where they said "I hope you enjoyed seeing all those exclusive titles and now we're moving on to xbox live" or something close to that?

Oh yeah, I forgot MGS Mobile, I've played that.

Kayube

@Crunch King:

on my screen, the countdown is still on...

OhNoItsGojira

@Archaotic:
this makes sense as well because it will likely use a very different, most likely brand new, engine for the game.

I liked Raiden, even in MGS2 (which also happens to be the only MGS game I've played... the rest I just watched on YouTube). He had a terrible life.

Kayube

@Zallin:

i liked him since the beginning and grow up

MGSM

@LennyGc: MGS Series was never exclusive to Sony... MGS2 was Multiplatform as was MGS1 with the Gamecube remake.

What would have been a big blow would be if MGS4 was released for X360.

meh, Raiden...

yhalothar

Sweet. Now I just have to care about this series... No seriously, it's fun, just not my first pick for a session of gaming...

@MrBionic: SHHHH! STFU dude. You don't know where those Diablo fanboys are hiding. I mean dark colour palette fans.

@Archaotic: if it's exclusive that will be ridiculous! agreed, raiden does deserve his own game, can't wait!

@Quicksilver4648: ... that the announcement is not ZOE3.

@BlueBadger:
More likely scenario:

Put the gun to my head, and never have to face the guilty pleasure/torture of the internet.

Lol both sides will make this the end of the world, yet time still continues, and there are two conferences left. PS3 users will forget that MG has had multi-plat releases already (just recently the iphone). And last year MS did the same tactic, and the PS3 of course died and failed to do anything else and 360 won and everyone got a high five and a cookie.

@S/M Lincoln: Its a multiplat title.

the title is ludicrous

cant help but feel Kojima is having a bit of a joke.

why is Solid in the title also?

@FP_slomo788: It wouldn't be if Sony ever sprung to go first with these pressers.

I swear, it's like they just roll over and take it...and allow Microsoft to take the piss out of them with titles that may not even be exclusive.

I visited the official PS forums and yeah the fanboys are angry and the mods are slamming the topics that hint at the words Microsoft/xbox/etc......

That's exactly what the hell is wrong with sony....they are losing touch with their consumers and just locking and deleting posts (I'm talking about civilized posts not spamming fanboys). Good for Kojima opening up more options by developing for the xbox.....I'll buy it.

Ha ha ha! That's awesome! Can't wait!

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Agreed. Never saw why everyone hated on Raiden in MGS2. Everyone just had a solid for Snake. Fuck you Snake and Dante whores. Long live Raiden and Nero!

pressstart

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:****spoiler alert** I concur, if you actually follow the metal gear story, you'd come to realize that Big Boss was the real hero and not Solid Snake. Big Boss (along with all of Solid Snakes brothers) Fought to free the world from The control of the Patriots, where as Solid Snake was unknowingly(to Soldis Snake) the Ace in the Patriots sleeve, in whiched they pulled out to bring down anyone/thing that would threaten their power. He only came (as well as the players/us) to this realization at the end of MGS 4.

@BlueBadger: Huh?

@n00b_pwner: Nakedness makes everything better.

HJSoulma

People seem to be ignoring that they announced mid way through the conference that everything from that point was EXCLUSIVE.

Letiumtide

@excel_excel:

Since it says "Lightning Bolt Action" and not "Tactional Espionage Action" as the main series did, its easy to say this game will have a different gameplay and approach.

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: No more drugs for this man.

Yawn, but I suppose it is fun to see the Sony fanboys cry.

SinisterBill

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I played through the entirety of MGS3, really confused and ignorant of the fact I was playing as Big Boss, not Solid Snake.

The story in those games swoops right on over my head, every time.

I would like to give a big F U to all the SONY FANBOYS here!, I am not an xbox fanboy, i plan on buying the PS3 slim, but yea F U to all the sony fanboys talking smack about how MGS will NEVER come to the 360, HA HA HA!

Warren Marshall

@Tim Reilly: odds are that tim is lame for thinking that gow/dmc is lame :)

couchcommando

An action game would be fun as for plot wise maybe the game will be detailing what happened to raiden in more detail from mgs2 to mgs 4.

@B33: ... Whilst the MGS fans who want more happily rejoice.

Yertle8

Hopefully PS3 owners will see this too.

Siye

@Archaotic:
Oh god please give this whole article the old yeller treatment.

Please put the gun onto its head and pull the trigger. My head is close to oozing from the fanboyism that this multiplat announcement created.

@turbofreak: Its most likely going to be a PS360 release.

@Archaotic: Doesn't seem to be exclusive since it came as part of the "never seen before" titles and not with the "Xbox exclusive" titles. Would have been very exciting if it was, but there would probably be too much backlash.

spannu

i have to drop $$$$ for a 360 now, GOD *&^%#*&^#) DAMNIT.

THEE SEX. (Mmm, I knew it was Raiden~ effing sexy man D:...)

Anyways....since the word "exclusive" wasn't mentioned, I'm hoping it'll be out for the PS3 as well...because if it isn't...I'm going to have to start saving up to get a 360...AND I DON'T WANT THAT.

NekuSakuraba

@Buttah: The Delicious One: Seriously, I always wonder that too. I think there's a big number for the latter.

@Hey_Blinkon: and then before the MGS announcement, said "that's it for the 360 exclusives", and if MS make sure they tell you 'all you need is love' is exclusive to the 360, i'm pretty sure they wouldn't forget to mention an MGS game being exclusive.

plus, the interview with kojima about these new games were in Famitsu's PS3 magazine.

lordofsword

@Archaotic: There could be a PSP/PS3 version of big boss. We'll find out tomorrow what the deal is.

FatalChaos

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I can dig it *taps on some bongos*

@Goldwings: Has no idea why his avatar is a smiling sun: Sweet tears of cows? Was Diablo III confirmed for the 360 with the Uber-Special Secret Cow Level of Rainbow Unicorns?

@Crunch King: I think that's really cool ONLY if it's the BA Raiden was in MGS4... not the Raiden in MGS2 :(

@-[[CHoZO]]-:
sweat? about what?

OhNoItsGojira

I'm guessing it will be a DLC for PS3.

DoggySpew

@EGBTMagus:
Prolly its the PSP game leaked most definitely.

There might be a chance its a PSP/PS3 release.

Coworkers have already started LARP 'Lightning Bolt!' jokes. It's been a fun morning.

normalmode

I only hope kojima will not make cuts to the game due to the underpowered xbox against the ps3.

tormenta3001

@Crunch King: i think i'm going to throw up...

@S/M Lincoln:

all they have to do is show the current Project Trico. heads will explode!

@Mr. Tambourine Man: That is what I said. I freaked out. Now I only have one reason to pick PS over Xbox which is Gran Turismo 5. I got PS3 because MGS4 was exclusive. This sucks.

turbofreak

Xbox360 Owners: "who's Raiden, he looks like a queer"

Damn you Kojima, you were bought out too!

wow, and here i was hoping for something important.

BigBossPETE

@adthomson: Your terrible spelling hurts my brain

@S/M Lincoln: Yes real easy to make mega announcements when your competitors are THE NEXT FUCKING DAY.

@Archaotic: I highly doubt it's exclusive. MS would have gone out of their way to make it known if it was.

@Demonbird: Yeah, I think this is multiplat, and I'm totally cool with that. Hopefully both systems get a good running version of the game.

@indyit just wants exams to end.: It's not really stealing. MGS has appeared on a microsoft platform before....

To the Raiden haters:

YES YES, RAIDEN WAS A SCRUB NUB IN MGS2. But cmon he killed like 4 geckos with a sword in 4. And that dude was a solider since he was kid, in some ways i think hes more "icecold" than snake.

The days where it was cool to hate on Raiden is over. Give him a break, he has his own game now...

Odds that it is a lame God of War/Devil May Cry-style beat 'em up?

Tim Reilly

@Mr. Tambourine Man: Not as big as the Sony Blackballs Kotaku thread, but it'll be huge. FFXIII for 360 was probably bigger too.

I'll bet that this game will be very similar to DMC. Theres no reason for Raiden to be stealthy.

As far as the exclusivity is concerned, I'm not really concerned. I agree that if this was an exclusive title, they would've been screaming it at the top of their lungs.

Hey guys, you don't get Solid Snake, but you get Raiden! Oh and it's not MGS5, it's MGR! How sweet is that? You get an awesome side-story starring Raiden!

No seriously, that's sarcasm. You guys wanted it so bad Kojima had to go "Aww, well we got Raiden..."

Looks like Kojima kept his word... MGS4 is still exclsuive to PS3.

I wonder though, this only showed Raiden... does that mean the Big Boss is a hint of a PS3 title in the works?

@Alttabmatt: It's when Tactical Espionage Action settles down, gets married, has kids, and loses every bit of creativity that made him famous.

(source: Sick Boy theory from Trainspotting)

normalmode

@ostrichdeity: All I'm saying is I won't by the 360, which I couldn't trust, to play a single game, no matter how much I love MGS.

@Archaotic:
Were this exclusive they would have been very, very clear about that.
Everyone on heaven and earth would know.

Oh God, Kojima just sold out. LIGHTNING, 360, NINJAS YEAAAAAAH BUY NOW BUY NOW BUY NOW BUY NOW.

@Buttah: The Delicious One: I'm sure the ratio of fanboy to fan is skewed in favor of fanboy, but we'll have to wait for sales to see.

Sir-Lucius

I'll assume this this is coming to to the PS3 as well till I hear other wise. Also For me at least MGS on MS property always feels so weird!!

I wonder if this will look better than MGS4?

Happy Birthday Son, Its metal gear rising.

But dad, i wanted snake :(

I'm sorry son, but we couldn't afford snake.

Gregor Boyd

@lostmongoose: During the presentation they said "everything from here on in is exclusive" and this was WELL after that announcement.

KaneTaker

This should me the most epic thread on Kotaku
EVER

@Jose Fortuna: Yeah, we all know how much Microsoft love to flaunt their exclusives. =P

JoshiiWah

Not a big fan of the series to begin with. More Raiden just makes it worse.

KaneTaker

So Metal Gear Rising to Xbox 360, and the Metal Gear Solid prequel to the ps3.

I'm looking forward to it.

ArildaEleius

God, my Internet Is already slow..

@pd771: It's not like the core 360 owners wanted MGS4 anyway. They wanted the sweet tears of cows.
The tears they got when FF13 was announced for the 360 ran out and this was their last hope to get more. Seriously saying PS3 has no games to get them tears ran thin a long, long time ago.
Cow tears are overrated anyway. Lemming tears taste better ;)

@CHunterX:

I'm guessing that too.

rancher8

@Fear-The-Unknown: The Big Boss game is on PSP, we already know this. This one has to be multiplat, considering they have a multi-million dollar engine on the PS3 running already and an established 4-million fanbase. It would be stupid to go exclusive, and it would piss a lot of fans off. Let's wait until the countdown expires tonight.

@Hey_Blinkon: Yeah, that's what I thought.

Jadakra

Lightning Bolt Action? What the heck is that supposed to mean? I'm assuming it means no cardboard box sneaking and none of that cover mechanic stuff.

Watching E3 now. When I saw Kojima come up behind whats his name all think I shit a little. I am 31 years old and I jumped off my couch and jumped up and down like 5 year old.

damiz7o7

@Moral_Avenger: And the money is still pouring in... Whilst the fans who wish Kojima would move on to a brand new IP patiently wait.

B33

@Alttabmatt:
A very laughable name for *anything*

Seems like an action game... and much less than a Tactical Espionage Action game....

@pd771: All I can do is laugh at you.

@B33: PS3 Fanboys should be happy, MGS4 is still exclusive...

@smuai: Ah, how coy. By the way, "am confused" isn't really a sentence or a comment. It lacks a subject.

-[[CHoZO]]-

I want it to be 360 Exclusive, it wont be like MGS4 in size and I wouldn't want a multiplatform where the PS3's version had to suffer in size because of the Xbox.

Hopefully there's a big boss version for the PS3.

FatalChaos

@Jose Fortuna:
Didnt MS say after the Modern Warfare 2 demo that every game they would show from then on would be 360 exclusive?
I dunno, I have my doubt aswell, but just pointing out.

@Archaotic: I just wonder how many 360 fans are generally interested in MGS and will buy the game rather than the fanboys who just wanted it to brag about how they "beat" Sony.

Buttah: The Delicious One

@Archaotic: Press F5 again.

I'm surprised no one has been shot over this generation of console wars

xxAlucarDraculax

@pd771: Just reeelllaaxxx. Time will tell

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: as if a million voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Console wars are over Xbox wins lool ps3 has nothing lef tim going to throw my ps3 out i think hahaha it worthless!!!!!

@Dennen: Not to mention they were advertising it in Famitsu PS3 last week. I think this is multiplatform, which is totally cool in my opinion. I'm glad Kojima's making a multiplatform game.

If he just jumped to 360 only though, I won't be happy, and there are millions of PS3 owners who probably feel the same way.

@the7k:
Me too, if the game is exclusive though..

Microsoft has been kicking ass with their huge announcements in E3. First Final Fantasy, and now this. They always knock the wind out of Sony. I wish Sony would go first some day.

@Archaotic: I have both a PS3 and a 360 and I'd be pissed if it were only 360. I still want it on PS3. Something about MGS on 360 doesn't sit right with me.

@pd771:

I highly agree.

The troll here is speaking as if Metal Gear Solid 4 just went Multiplatform.

I hate to hit 'em this way, but this is absolutely no different than a Metal Gear game going to the iPhone. Can't you just be happy that another console is going to get a Metal Gear game?

@GoalieLax: No sorry, its a Metal Gear game.

i was actually hoping more for a ZOE3 announcement, metal gear was supposed to end with 4 but ill take what i cna get... more kojima nonsense awaits

stoneflysoldier

@CHunterX: That's what I'm thinking. Like a flamebait version of the Pokemon games.

PlatformJunkie

@excel_excel: NO NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE

Okay, he didn't mention it was an exclusive, but before it was mentioned that every single game that was showcased from that point on is a 360 exclusive.

Thus Rising is a 360 exclusive

ThatMiamiDude

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:

"Well, I don't count it as an MGS game if it doesn't have Solid Snake it in as the MAIN character. Or someone that's his clone or look-a-like."

What did that say again? I consider Big Boss as the original, but he's also a look-a-like.

TriplEEE13

@-[[CHoZO]]-: ... because mgs4 is still exclusive? am confused

If it was exclusive, they would have announced it as an exclusive. It's good that more people will get to play it. Maybe it'll also finally shut up the "MGS4 on 360!!!!" crap?

There's still 3 hours on the countdown clock, though, so I wonder what else is still hiding in the bottom of the Konami funbag?

@B33: As far as Konami, the makers of the Metal Gears series, are concerned the series is still going.

Moral_Avenger

I'm not seeing the word 'exclusive' *anywhere* in that announcement.

lostmongoose

@FP_slomo788:
So not only was it NOT announced as exclusive, but you yourself just pointed out that there's a MG game coming to the PSP.

Exactly how groundbreaking of a show is it when a historically multi-plat game is coming to the 360?

And btw, I would take Big Boss over Raiden any day >.< lol

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Exactly.

@S/M Lincoln: It's multi-platform.

B33

That's cool. I've got the 360 for the spin-offs, and my PS3 for the real MGS games.

@Archaotic: my hardware works just fine, I was playing with it only today, tonight I might invite the neighbours round to have a go too.

@CHunterX:
That's what I thought too.

@ben72227: let's not get carried away...there's no word on exclusiveness and this is a spinoff, not a true MGS game.

Its so funny and ridiculous watching big babies complain about this game coming to one console and not another. Just buy an Xbox 360 and set it aside your PS3 and play exclusives from both consoles. Both consoles are great for different reasons.

@FP_slomo788:

No, i'm sure they've got something. I hope for me that is.

Obey__

@excel_excel: I am annoyed because I don't know if the PS3 will get this. That's all I care about. That, and all the trolls that will be on the internet after this.

I am going to assume it's exclusive. Multiplatform would be fantastic, indeed!

However. I would assume that any announcement that was indeed Xbox Exclusive would have been plastered all over the place. Especially at the end of each trailer, just to keep up the visage that it is indeed exclusive. You know, to avoid all confusion or questions.

yes numbers dictated it would come to 360... but is it simply a cash in???

ShamanNY

@beta_angel: This is quite true, but like i feel with FFXIII and Versus, this one exclusive, one multiplatform deal could work in microsofts favor for two reasons:

1) it proves that these games can work on the 360 (which all but the sony fanboys pretty much knew)

2) if the multiplatform titles (ie XIII and rising coming to the 360) garner great sales and support, it would be boarderline lunacy to not at least give serious consideration to porting the exclusive title (guns of the patriots and Versus), moreso than any consideration they've given it in the past.

Cerabret100

Kojima, don't shoot yourself in the foot again, like with Substance.

Wow...that...doesn't surprise me.

I'd breathe a sigh of relief and say now were done with it all...but for the fact that if this game stays a 360 exclusive we'll now be looking at years and years of:

360 fantard: "Metal Gear Solid 4 sucks! Movie rofl!11!!!!"

PS3 fantard: "Metal Gear Raiden is gay and just an offshoot! It suck moar!1!!1one!"

Woo, I'm always up for some more MGS.

why is it still metal gear solid, if no such snake appears in the game, unless he does???

@n00b_pwner: mmmmm naked

@BONERJAM: i actually think that this is not the megaton microsoft expected. I dont think anyone was shocked. everything is multiplatform these days

Brandon Fletcher

@ben72227: Pretty much

But what the hell is "Lightning Bolt Action?"

@S/M Lincoln: Pretty sure it is. "In development for"

ChekhovsGun

@Archaotic: Why does Raiden suddenly deserve his own game? They gave him one. It was MGS 2. EVERYONE BITCHED! Suddenly cause he was a ninja in 4 he is awesome. HE still sucks.

the haters are already out hating!

So I'm guessing PS3 owners get a Big Boss Game?

No big boss? Sounds like Ps3 is going to get an exclusive from Kojima.

@Archaotic: I doubt it's exclusive. MS would've made damn sure he said it, and after over 4 million sold on MGS4 for PS3, they'd be crazy not to put it on PS3.

@Archaotic: Raiden for 360, Big Boss for PS3.
You heard it hear first lolo.

What is that sound? The sound of a million PS3 fanboys crying out in depression.

@Alamosh: Quick! Get the lantern!: in after stupid comment.

Hey_Blinkon

@pd771: He was making a joke, lighten up. I was going to say the same thing... And I don't even play games anymore!!!

JessMeNU

@-[[CHoZO]]-: I bought mine when Dead Rising came out. It's practically dead as it is, and by the time this game is released, its warranty will be LONG gone.

@TriplEEE13: The best MGS games have Big Boss as the main character.

FACT.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@-[[CHoZO]]-: Hurm?

B33

H O L Y S H I T.

also new podcast here :
[www.kjp.konami.jp]

@Hey_Blinkon: i highly doubt it... if it is... it will be even worse for sony... its bad enough Microsoft has pretty much grabbed every single third party exclusive series PS has... stealing an entire franchise... and MGS at that would suck.

indyit just wants exams to end.

as long as it comes out on PS3 with better graphics i dont care.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:

Well, I don't count it as an MGS game if it doesn't have Solid Snake it in as the MAIN character. Or someone that's his clone or look-a-like.

TriplEEE13

I'll never be satisfied! I wanted metal gear, but not like this... NOT LIKE THIS.

Yeah this is definitely going to be multi-platform...you best believe Microsoft would be going ape shit labeling this an exclusive if that was the case.

KratoSocom

So Big Boss for PSP and Raiden for 360 (and maybe PS3)?

Well played, Kojima.

It's going to be hard for Sony to top this tomorrow, honestly.

@Hey_Blinkon: Yeah this came after all the exclusive stuff, so I'd assume this is Microsoft getting to make the announcement since they're up first at E3. I'm pretty sure it'll be multi-plat.

Sir-Lucius

@B33: *hands tissue to B33*

-[[CHoZO]]-

@pd771: Dude and Bro, the PS3 is my favorite console. I just hate fanboys. Very much.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

Wow talk about a megaton. MGS was Sony's last major 3rd party exclusive wasn't it?

So really, who didn't see this coming?

WarlockSoL

Looks like I'm back to my MGS media blackout bunker. No images or videos for 2+ years.

normalmode

YEAHHHHHHHHHHH MY DREAMS CAME TRUE!!!

Faiz Isa

@pd771: Someones a bit too defensive.

Thank you Kojima, You will never Escape The Metal Gear.

SinfulKnight

@Hey_Blinkon: They would've said verbatim that the game was exclusive if it was, like they did with every other game in the presser that was.

Well that was certainly a giant hit to the head with a boner.

My own boner that is...

Thomas Henry Ward

I knew MGS would eventually come to the 360.

BONERJAM

@Archaotic: My 360 works just fine! Too bad MGS games aren't my style. It's still fun to watch PS3 owners sweat.

-[[CHoZO]]-

Looks like I'll have to get a 360 now.

inb4 360 fanboys

Sweet, I hope you can run around naked in a cardboard box again!.

4 words
OH MY FUCKING GOD

@B33: Fuck the haters, Raiden was a great character. Also, he was intentionally incompetent.

+ Watch video

+ Watch video

BubbleF**kingBuddy

@Jose Fortuna:

I agree with this logic.

@Crunch King: A storm of fanboy tears is about to flood Kotaku. Beware.

-[[CHoZO]]-

I'd still like to see MGS4 go to 360

Hey_Blinkon

@B33: I think this may be a prequel to when he attacked the Patriots to get Sunny back, not a sequel.

well after multi-plats, mind-blowing services like twitter, facebook, and last.fm (really, that's what the 360 needs for gamers?), it's about time they had something decent at E3.

OH MY JESUS.

@Archaotic: I think it is, since they said everything from one point on in the talk was exclusive

Hey_Blinkon

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: You are an idiot.

In before PS3 fanboy rage. But seriously, is PS3 getting this too? Cause I want it.

FFFFUCKYES

If it was exclusive to 360 only then Microsoft would plaster that all over the place. It's coming to the PS3. Bank on it.

Jose Fortuna

@Archaotic: If it is, I will not be happy. I am not buying faulty hardware to play a Metal Gear game. That is simply not happening.

Sweetest salty fanboy tears, I will be drinking them tonight.
I hope you enjoyed this epic gen, because this is your last fight.
When I heard of MG Rising, I damn near almost died.
It's as if I heard a Sony lover shudder, before he fell and cried.

BubbleF**kingBuddy

Having Raiden as a primary character was what spawned all the backlash with Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.

With that said, I've little interest in "Rising."

As far as I'm concerned, the series ended with "Guns of the Patriots."

B33

I hope there wont be anymore nakedness anymore

Hopefully it's not an exclusive. I won't be happy if it is. Raiden does deserve his own game, and I'd like to play it on working hardware. C'mon, multiplatform.

Sex. That is all.

@ben72227: Gran Turismo, anyone?

dd528

@UncleScrotar: I would prefer Microsoft to use the ONE thing that makes them powerful (money) to build reliable hardware and a truly awesome machine. If you machine that is the best on the market and sold at a huge loss (which Microsoft could afford - after all, they have money), then you won't have to buy third-party support. "Build it, and they will come."

The reliability aspect is the one and only reason I have not gotten a 360. All of my friends own a 360, but only two have not fell victim to the red ring, and one is already on his fourth 360. I want to play shmups, not Russian Roulette.

@Archaotic: its not a sequel, its a mgs4 prequel

I'm now laughing at everyone who was insisting MGS would never come to the 360...

Kovitlac

@Jose Fortuna: OR, negotiations are all still in the works. I'm not leaning one way or the other - I'll just wait until something is actually said about it.

Kovitlac

@DranzerKire:

Is Kojima doing a "short story" then?

LOL

But yes, it is announced for the PS3 and PC too now, will have to get the PC version hehe.

Hopefully this game will be better than the previous MGS games starring Raiden. They were personally my least favorite of the series.

dantheman1515