Old Republic Gets New Trailer

This trailer only reminds me of what the Prequel Trilogy should have become!

@Mister_Bump:

Couldn't agree more.

Leave the CG trailers to sony.

This is how the prequels should have played out. Not all that other bollocks with Emo Vader.

Mind blowing video as expected.Lets hope that the game will be as good as the video.And please make it free of monthly subscription.

That hands down looks better than anything in the prequel trilogy!

It's a shame it's probably not coming to consoles!

nottsville

Wow... that looks amazing, but i dunno, after FFXI and WOW, MMORPGs dont interest me much...

Interesting how Bioware manages to make a trailer that looks better, feels more like Star Wars and has way better action than Lucas did with the 3 new Episodes.

@Turambar: B> Selvaria Body Pillow: I read those. But it was a long time ago. Are you sure the comics weren't just set on an almost prehistoric planet?

@jjason82: And they couldn't use most force powers, force lightning being one of them (I believe).

Yet he uses force lightning in this trailer.

However, I believe the armor restrictions were just a game mechanic in KOTOR 1 and 2, nothing more. They wanted you to wear the robes and actually look like a Jedi, not the armor meant for the other chars.

@chaos_isnt_here: It is sad. :( I love KOTOR, I love Star Wars, and I'll probably love TOR. But MMO's? I'm really tired of them, their grinding, their monthly fees, and their 12 year olds.

Part of me actually hopes this game is terrible so I don't have to play a mmo. Because, yes, I'll *have* to play it if it's good. It's Star Wars + Bioware, guys.

Man, this was awesome. Although I would have preferred another KOTOR this is Bioware we're talking about and they never let me down. Blizzard had better watch out, because IMO Bioware is the only developer that could really match or surpass the success of WoW.

Also this trailer reminded me that the greatest contribution to come out of the prequel film's is John William's new music.

ebola9717

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

DePalo

@nworobes: Oh I know that, that's why I was so disappointed with that new CG garbage. If they had maintained the coolness of the original series or made more stuff like this trailer I would have loved it more...

Bonus points if Jar-Jar was shot in the crossfire and exploded.

@chaos_isnt_here: yeah, i need the book.

kitsuneconundrum

HOLY SHIT

GiZzY67

And I thought I was pumped for this game before. I'm definitely buying this on release day.

I also don't get why people are griping about this being an MMO and having to pay a fee. I've seen people drop larger amounts of money on things that are a complete waste. $15 seems reasonable for me considering Bioware will constantly be delivering new content.

@sephycloneno15: Trust me - we know. Your nerd rage is well felt.

~I

@maniacmayhem: I have wondered that too many times to count. It's best we not think about that, as it will drive us insane.

uh oh blizzard, looks like your not the only one making kick ass trailers.

LunarDivider

@FreakyFavabean: I think you answered your own question

Lincolnsbeard33

@Indigen: Its not really a new thing though, the actual KOTOR comic the other games are based on look nothing like the tech showing before. Guess they figured if they werent gonna look like the comics at all (which they didnt) might as well go with something recognizable.

Inquest

Sith dude's lightsaber didn't leave a singed hole in the Jedi's cape after he stabbed him.

*desperately tries to repress nerd rage*

sephycloneno15

@jollydwarf: Hyperdrive, high yield energy weapons, lightsabers, deflector shields. They've made a lot of pretty big discoveries already. I would imagine that technology advanced quite a great deal between KOTOR and TPM (heck, look how much it advanced in the couple decades between TOTJ and KOTOR [the game]), but most of those advances were tweaks to existing technology, minor improvements that build up over time amounting mainly to increased efficiency. I'd place odds that a single Imperial-class Star Destroyer could take on a dozen or so of the best ships in the KOTOR era and win because it's got significantly improved versions of their same technology. /nerd

sephycloneno15

@Nyarlahotep:

On another note Mass Effect with swords would be awesome

SaanZ

@NEObraska: Its MALAK. =p

Syed Husain

@azr: No Hayden Christensen, no Jar Jar, no George Lucas thinking he can write dialogue, very little wasted potential (none of the cool bad guys got killed off in the trailer).

sephycloneno15

@jjason82: And impaired their ability to use most Force powers. Unless it was that ugly Zeison Sha or whatever armor with the little buttflap from KOTOR II

sephycloneno15

@konexile: Kotor mechanics plus Mass Effect combat would be a dream come true.

@chaos_isnt_here: It's just sad. Why can't their be any good star wars games that come out soon. SWB3 where are you?

jakster4u

@snakepliskin: I'd rather it doesn't look like the actual gameplay. I'd prefer a game that my system can actually run, no matter how much money they spent on the cutscenes.

twobeef

Man that cgi was amazing... At least they got a good idea and theme going ya? Chance this might break some new ground....

Heidern98

OMG OMG i'm doing fist pumps and backflips!

juandotcom

@Gouki4u actually prefers to play as Cammy or Vega.: I disagree. While I thought Phantom Menace was pretty boring, the two others one were very enjoyable. I guess I'm just not a hardcore Star Wars fan. I was content just seeing all the awesome action scenes, but isn't that all this trailer is too? How is it better exactly?

I just came.

@Teliko: The Clone Wars cartoon (not the CG one) was very much like this trailer. As in, nonstop ass-kicking.
Mostly because it was created by Genndy Tartakovsky, creator of Samurai Jack, and at this point he knows a thing or two about awesome sword fights.

nworobes

That clip was better than the last three movies combined.

@spaceghozt: I'm guessing you never played KOTOR 1 or 2? Jedi's were allowed to wear armor just fine, it just decreased their dexterity.

i wonder if this can take me away from WoW.

Isaias Peralta

Great trailer, but these "sleepy" jedii plotline are getting dated...

hiruu

@Brian Beckmann: They already said it won't be on consoles. What more do you want?

@Indigen: FFXI was made for the ps2 originally, and the PC port actually controls worse from what people have told me.

Chao1111

@Shredator:

Yeah, try telling that to those who will be taking a fourth job to buy a beta key for the game off eBay someday soon.

jollydwarf

@Shredator: This.

Though, the original Knights of the Old Republic comic took place in an almost prehistoric setting. The Kotor games diverged from that for a bigger appeal.

@Brian Beckmann: Don't see how it could hit consoles. It's an MMO. How are you going to pay for it through consoles? How would you control a game as complex as an MMO with a joypad?

Also: AJ is right, too much of that looked like film SW. KOTOR has featured different designs until now, for good reason since it's thousands of years before the films. Now look at the trailer. Star destroyers, tie fighters, Boba Fett, even the transport ship. Bad dude himself looks like Vader. The bad dudes have previously been pretty distinctive in KOTOR.

So right now, I'm going ahead and claiming this is a deliberate and cynical choice on the part of Bioware, to roll back the distinctiveness of KOTOR and make it look more like the films to cash in on the identity with those who might not like KOTORS take on the universe.

Indigen

@chaos_isnt_here: Because MONEY, that's why.

Pantsman

This was better than the first three episodes lol

I don't see what people are making such a fuss about, this is a CGI clip, it's not what the game is actually going to look like or any indication of the gameplay. /yawn

As excited as I would like to be for this SW MMORPG I am not. Ever since SOE massacred SWG with the obvious greenlight from Lucas Arts, well, I don't buy anything from SOE anymore until they released at least a classic server (Which Smedley refuses to do) and considering how the SWG massacre could be easily Lucas Arts doing as well I'm rather hesitant of supporting anything from them too.

The only way I'd so much as even consider purchasing this game is if it has real player housing (As did SWG and UO) and mounts and the like. Would be nice if it was a skill based system like UO and SWG but am sure they will take the easy, confining route of archaic levels so am not expecting much in that regard.

Luke Shiffer

@chaos_isnt_here: Man, they let anyone be a Jedi these days. What happened to the old standards?

Krytha

@jollydwarf: I can, the Star Wars universe is not real. That is all.

@spaceghozt: Nah they wear armor all the time. Obi-wan sports armor in all of his clone war cartoon incarnations. I never got why lucas didn't incorporate that into the movies. They look like such sissies always prancing around in tunics and such.

megatom0

Nobody does it quite like Bioware do they?

@Brian Beckmann:

This wont hit consoles... no need to worry

I hope this somehow becomes KOTOR3 or at least singleplayer... The way gameplay has been talked about it seems like it wouldnt be that farfetched.

SaanZ

@NEzraF: Raiden lost his too.

@BeefSupreme: I like how he catches it mid leap after throwing it while on the ground, nice.

Can someone please explain to me how such advanced civilizations don't seem to make ANY technological advancement whatsoever for century after century? Or has the thesis on "Voluntary Cessation of Technological and Cultural Advancement: Life After Utopia in the Star Wars Galaxy" already been written by some Supernerd made from parts of lesser nerds?

Personally, I'm much more excited for the next console "Battlefront." No matter how quality this game is, I can't imagine the experience will be tolerable, what with it being an MMO and "Star Wars Kid" magnet. Deadly, toxic combo there.

P.S. The delivery of the clunkily 'menacing' lines seems to be suffering from an acute case of Prequelitis. So some of you should be overjoyed.

jollydwarf

@Eric Hart: Followed by a most excellent force push! WOW! That was amazing.

BeefSupreme

@NEObraska:

...And stupid me thought you were referencing KZ :p Sorry, I don't follow Star Wars enough :/

The point still stands. They look like Hellghast!

*goes back to sleep* -_-

im concerned about this mmo's character customization. lvl 5, new pants. lvl 10, brown cloak. lvl 15, uhhh... orange saber?

yamiseth

@NEObraska:

Haha nice. I was thinking that the entire time. They looked awesome enough, but Killzone was in the back of my head the whole time.

@Toasticus:

Agreed!

@kyosen: they really do need to make KOTOR 3. I'd be so happy with my mini star wars fan girl screaming in excitement.

@snakepliskin: that will be such a great day when that comes. I really wished they had showed actual game play. Im all for good story telling and such but show me game play on this mother already!

Befitzero

Fucking awesome train, but too bad the in game artwork looks nothing like this. I really dont like the cartoony WOW style.

Altima NEO

Wants....actual....KOTOR.....sequels.

slim934

Why couldn't the Clone Wars movie been like this. That was the best Star Wars anything I've seen in years.

Its a very attractive trailer and I've watched it a few times. I find it interesting that people complain about shelling out $15 a month on an MMO yet will drop $80 a night at a bar or $120+ on a cell phone plan without batting an eye. Play an MMO for even a couple hours every 2 days and its already going to be the cheapest entertainment you can find outside of a used bookstore.

qhue

Good trailer, but its really hard for me to get excited by any MMO because they:

1. take forever to develop
2. never live up to the initial promise and get features cut to make a release
3. almost always get released in a buggy beta form when the publisher decides its finally time to cash in on the 3-4 year development window

Girlie Fett... RAWR.

planetaaron

@snakepliskin: I laughed because after the presser, the talking heads at G4 thought it was real gameplay. Ignorance...

@konexile: That's why I'd pull out Jedi Knight, or Unleashed.

@Mister Jack contains Potassium Benzoate (That's Bad): Gotta love Blur. They do some top-shelf pre-rendered cinematics.

@Oblique: don't give lucas any ideas!

@spaceghozt: Maybe they didn't find anything less flimsy than Storm Trooper armor until then.

@kyosen: i guess i am too cause my pants got all excited during the trailer. and i did like the other kotors, but a little more "hands on" combat would be nice.

@Brian Beckmann: I'd be happier with a KOTOR 3 with the same graphics as Eschelon Book 1.

@spaceghozt: More like armor doesn't stop any type of projectile in the Star Wars universe, so it is a useless hindrance :P

kagekiri

@Eric Hart: Yeah, Obi Wan is skilled like that. Er, I mean Obi Wans ancestor.

@chaos_isnt_here: Well, technically it's not Knights of the Old Republic, it's just The Old Republic. But I am disappointed that it's an MMO still, I'm still waiting on a good RPG that can have just Co-op in it.

K1NG EV1L

@Gouki4u actually prefers to play as Cammy or Vega.:
You got that right, that trailer makes me want to line up right now for an old republic movie lol

This jedi that gets killed in the end looks like GI Joe's Duke(I think his name was), and the villians look kind of muscularly in a Gears of War style. I prefer the Ralph McQuarrie style Star Wars, so this looks a little cheesy to me.
other than that, really amazing.

TT

We could only be so lucky to have the combat from previous KoTORs. It's all about quick paced hack and slash and now of course voice overs for all the text so you don't even have to read. It's a dumbasses dream come true.

Still, I'm excited though. Guess I'm a dumbass, damn it.

Why couldn't we have this as a show on CN instead of that Clone Wars bullshit?

maniacmayhem

@Mister_Bump: I'd say it serves that purpose.. As the story is the most important, and this really sets the stage IMO.

I am keeping this video on constant loop until this game releases! Best trailer EVAR!!1!one!!

Why do MMOs always have the best, most action packed trailers/cinematics, when they're usually so boring and slow? It makes me wish I could play a game that was, you know, actually remotely like what they showed here.

That CG trailer was better than anything George Lucas has done with Star Wars since 1983.

Looks great...but we need more substantive details for the game itself...

half-beast

@lifejolt:

He's talking about all the previous KotORs

Brian Beckmann

Man, that is one kickass trailer. I'm never gonna shell out every month for an MMO, but for those who would, this is definitely the sort of trailer to build up anticipation.

@konexile: Meh, KOTOR has been turned based and that didn't stop it from greatness, if they even do a simple cut and paste of the fight system, id be all over it in an instant.

But, wait and see for actual gameplay and UI before making assumptions dude

@chaos_isnt_here:

Me too... :(

At least the graphics look MASSIVELY improved. (Not that it really matters for a KotOR game)

Brian Beckmann

It would seem Darth Malik survived...

Where'd my jaw go?

Nice trailer, but since when do Jedi wear armor? Thought they weren't allowed.

Impressive, Most Impressive.

coolguyface

So no gameplay then....

One of these days an mmo is gonna look like the cg trailers that advertise it.

snakepliskin

Yay, CG, how amazing - that really helps us understand what the game will be like! Oh, wait....

Mister_Bump

@konexile:
What mmo's have you been playing?

lifejolt

while the actual in-game combat will be the traditional "attack....wait....attack...wait" garbage.

*stargasm*

Cambuchi

Hot trailer full of hot action and hot dudes and hot chicks. Win.

Blur Studio FTW

saxifridge

I wish they would appease my worries that this won't hit consoles...

Brian Beckmann

WHY MUST THIS BE AN MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

so sad. :(

Amazing. Love the way he jumps above the saber when he throws it, fancy pants.

Eric Hart

@Mobusaki: I complete agree with you.

@Mobusaki: It's a double edged sword really. If this bombs it will mean they think this universe is dead and thus discontinue the serries forever, on the other hand if it succeeds they will just churn out expansions and seqeuls to the MMO.

Such a sad day when this game was announced as the originals were of a select few games that, critics, gamers and the general public all really enjoyed.

@Hasseo: Well in the Star Wars universe they have reached the pinnacle of technology long ago. So to put it simply they have run out of new ideas, they only make small improvements on what they have been using for thousands and thousands of years. Also with all the conflict with the Jedi and the Sith they have probably hit the "reset" point in their civilization several times.

Wet panties... like.. seriously. That was the most amazing trailer ever.

@sephycloneno15: lol - noticed that too. We're a club now. :P

@maniacmayhem: Because it would cost significantly... SIGNIFICANTLY... more man/cpu hours and money than a weekly Yoda football head.

@FreakyFavabean: Big investment, big marketing.

@spaceghozt: Armor impedes movement and speed.

@Reil: Yeah. I mean seriously, what's the point of armor if it can't stop arrows from ewoks??

One thing I still never liked about the KOTOR and these games is how much it just looks like the time frame of the movies. Surely if it's 3000's in the past the technology would be no where near what it is in the films.

@LunarDivider: Except Blizzard makes theirs in-house. Bioware sent out to Blur...a company that specializes in awesome cut scenes.

Not that Im complaining, but for a company to maintain its own inhouse cinematics division and still have 4 major game projects on their hands is kind of impressive.

PixelPenumbra

@jjason82: They said they were thinking about it.

@Indigen: From what I've heard, Halo Wars controls pretty damn well. If you can control and RTS with a joypad, you can control an MMO.
Mass Effect style attack selection could be used... but in real time.

FireSketch

@goddessakasha: Agreed. Sorta. But yeah.. best trailer I've seen in a bit.

Sabbatai

@goddessakasha: or should you say... "moist"! durhurhur

PeteyCoco