Perfect Dark XBLA Looks Sharp, No Expansion Pak Required

This game looks amazing, It does not even look the same as it did on N64. I might have to get this despite owning it on 64.

@MDX: it's like running, but without the ability to jump >_<

jack m

I can has online multiplayer??

I thought the picture that was on the front page was "what it looks like" and did a spit-take.

Then I actually looked at the article.

@Pitchswitch: It wasn't an instant kill unless you shot them in the head (or had the one-hit kill modified on).

@guitarzan2k5: ... but what does ass run like? Dick?

sandal-hat wishes he could quit Capcom

@fELIXADER:
No, it came out sometime in November 2001, with the launch of the Xbox.

Please don't state things as facts unless you actually know what you're talking about.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Everything you wrote is true, but I have just a single counter-argument:
1) Goldeneye is Goldeneye
And there, I just proved you wrong.

I really can't believe I forgot about co-op and counter-op. Easily some of the most fun I've had with someone else playing co-op through a campaign. (And the fact you could unlock new co-op partners was great, or as the counter-op guy you could take a cyanide pill and make the level a cake walk for whoever it was playing Joanna!)

To be honest, I don't really recall any FPS issues, though I don't doubt they were there. The issues with the level design are kinda iffy to me, but PD had the couple levels from Goldeneye that actually mattered anyway (Temple and Felicity). Laptop gun was awesome. Not imba- it wasted so much ammo as it was. I would say disarming or hitting someone with an N-bomb is a bit more hax, because even if they die, they respawn with blurred vision.

Again, not bashing Goldeneye, just saying PD excels and beats out Goldeneye in everyway. I will leave those to their opinion though. Goldeneye was great, but PD was simply better.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I find these old N64 and PSX FPS games on average a lot more fun to play than the mostly over-the-top, eardrum-shattering explosion orgies that come out now.

OMFG! Better framerates were the ONLY complaint I had of the original game, I'm SO glad that's one of the two things they fixed! I'm so happy!

@Quicksilver4648:
Yeah, I was having small "freezing" moments with the dashboard and I knew it had to be HD related, so I also did some cleanup like you and it worked.

I cannot wait to run through that house mission again. I still remember the first time i played it on the hardest setting and found out that changes your starting location, i couldnt believe it. Thats when it cememnted itself in my top 5 best ever list.

@PeterPlarker: Turok 2 was a fantastic game. It had crappy multiplayer (although, killing the person who was the monkey was hilarious) but the campaign still ranks as one of my favorite FPSs ever.

ajnewman

@SuprShin: You wouldn't believe how many times I see a used N64 at a thrift store and find an Expansion Pack inside...I have an N64 myself that I paid 2.92 for at a thrift and it had one inside (and no, it's not for sale...I also have DK64 and if I sold the EP, DK would be sad ^_^).

It will be great to have a game full of humans online. But part of the appeal of Perfect Dark was friends coming over and huddling around the same split-screen TV. We would set up a bunch of crazy bots and watch the framerates drop.

As fun as that might still be, I doubt my friends, now split up by college, will want to come over for that experience when "it's the same game, it's just easier online." Ah well, everyone will still buy it. Everyone ever.

Too bad the single player campaign crumbles halfway through the game. Fuck off, Elvis the space alien and the rest of you extraterrestrial idiots.

No comment on multiplayer, though, since I was raised a Goldeneye fan.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Perfect Dark was the best game of that generation, yes I liked it better than FF7, Resident Evil 2, and Zelda, and half life this will be xbox live arcades greatest title. The game is packed with enough content I played it constantly for years, co-op, counter co-op, multiplayer w/wo bots so many customization options and hidden weapons challenges let me just say when u see this game and play it, it will put games made today to shame. IT IS THE BEST GAME!!!

JimmyPewtron

Thing is a lot of people are looking at this game with nostalgia goggles and when it's out people will see it was a bad game to begin with just like Zero

@asdf4321: omgwtfbbq. if u gais r srs. GET HYPED!

asdf4321

@ATimson: the smart ones waited for DK64 :)

Crawl to China

@Monty: Rare would of been better off having zword fights with nintendo and re releasing this stuff on the wii's launch.

sereal

@fELIXADER: I do too, and no it doesn't run well on the n64. 4 player multi (hell even 2) is extreamly low fps the entire time. There is no if ands or buts, perfect dark was amazingly fun on n64 but had a terrible frame rate.

sereal

Its nice looking at these screen shots. It makes me appreciate today's games even more. (Graphically at least, story and.. gameplay can always improve more)

--Core--

@Đipic: So my enjoyment of Goldeneye over Perfect Dark has nothing to do with nostalgia or like that. It was simply because I had had more fun playing it. The end.

(hit sumbit too early)

@NeoStarr: Exactly. I had more fun strategically placing proximity mines for people to run into on certain maps in Goldeneye than anything else I did in PD multiplayer.

It looks like the N64 game, but sharper and higher res.

Whcih is frankly all i would want!

@-MasterDex-: I don't think that's a fair comparison. It's not like PD was the same exact game except with a ton of improvements. Again, I'm not blinded by nostalgia here. I enjoyed both games, but they were DIFFERENT games and I happened enjoy Goldeneye more overall.

It's more like saying that Super Mario Sunshine is a lot better than Super Mario 64 therefore it is the superior. Now I know a lot of people didn't like Sunshine is much. I wasn't one of those people; I loved Sunshine. It just comes down to preference.

Shitting fuck, I'm buying a 360. Between this, Alan Wake, and the Mass Effect Series, it's worth it. Though I said the same thing about the Wii with SHSM and SMG and MOM and such...

Lets hope they get rid of that stupid blur effect that happens even after you die.

@Rallion: N64 games were super blurry because of the cartridge format. Textures were very low res, although the system excelled in anti-aliasing and polygon count when compared to the PSX. The problem was in the textures which were always very simple and blurry because they were super compressed.

That's why Perfect Dark had to be played with the expansion pack (alluded in the title of the article) which gave the system more memory. That way they could have better looking and more varied textures. Still this game ran like crap in the N64, I remember it was like 15fps to 20fps...at least now we'll be able to play it as it was intended to.

good joke with the title of the article Michael, it made me laugh.

Man, look at that. Sharp textures, smooth graphics, excellent use of bump mapping an- HOLY CRAP THERE ARE SCREEN SHOTS TOO!

@supo: They have to include dual analog support! Between the control change, and the fps boost, this game is going to feel so different.

@Koztah: Well, they included a few of the best Goldeneye maps in there anyway. IMO, the PD multiplayer was clearly better by a notch or two, but it wasn't the same incredible jump in awesomeness that Goldeneye represented.

Rallion

@Combine: The TVs that we were all playing N64 games on were blurrier, that's all. It's not as if the N64 was rendering the polygons, then blurring them.

Rallion

Ladies and gentlemen, God has answered my prayers. PD is one of my all time favorite games. I STILL play this game from time to time, hoping for a port. Now a smooth framerate, and Xbox live features pretty much makes me the happiest gamer ever.

@khdownes: That's a pretty good question, considering that with diarrhea, I'd say shit can run pretty fast.

FishstickAvenger

since we can't have Goldeneye, this will do quite nicely indeed!

TonyRockyHorror

You guys can have your Perfect Darks and Goldeneyes. Turok 2: Seeds of Evil is where it's at.

Something I just releaized, aren't some of the multiplayer heads people from Nintendo? I know Miyamoto is in it. I hope they don't remove those heads.

Spycrab!

Can't freaking wait!! It's looking fantastic by the way.

@Here's Some Weapons: Some "normal people" ended up with two, buying one for Rogue Squadron then getting a second as a Donkey Kong 64 pack-in. :(

ATimson

this looks as good as some wii games

xyzface

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I have problems with your logic. You seem to think that people liked Goldeneye more for aesthetic rather than gameplay reasons. I beg to differ. Goldeneye had balanced weapons, Perfect Dark had the Laptop Gun. Goldeneye had nothing but great multiplayer levels, Perfect Dark had Car Park and Goldeneye levels. Goldeneye kept a consistent theme throughout its story, Perfect Dark couldn't decide whether to be serious or parody.

Perfect Dark is pretty good, but it just doesn't compare to how epic Goldeneye was. It didn't really improve on anything from that game, just switched it up a bit, and that caused frame-rate problems and a number of inferior design choices. Goldeneye ftw.

@RockyRan: Eh, I really tried to like Nuts and Bolts. And I thought it had a lot of good ideas. It just didn't go very far with them. I'd still like to see them take what worked and put it into a better game. A platformer-vehicle hybrid would be brilliant. And the vehicle building system was something I could get lost in for hours.

But I do agree that a lot of the hatred for the game was blind rage rather than it's *actual* faults.

Viva Pinata is still gold for me. I picked up the sequel last weekend and promptly lost the entire weekend to it.

@WonkersWatilla: Those made the game playable!

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: A-men. The fact this game had a real plot makes it tower over Goldeneye. And not because Goldeneye is a bad game either!

Oh, and the President's *terrible* American accent still gives me fits of laughter. "You can't make accusations like that without evidence! I ashoooom you have some?"

I'm sorry the 360 version didn't live up to it, but I'd still like to see if Rare can't put together a true follow up to the original game. I do still love me some Perfect Dark.

@khdownes: Hopefully like a log sliding down a hill, but sometimes it's more like a stream.

yay! Now announce Killer Instinct for the 360!!!!!!

kev873

@WonkersWatilla: If for nostalgia's sake only. PDZ was fun but seemed a little on the sterile side.

On a side not, glad to see someone else who loved Dreamfall. FunCom needs to stop this Conan garbage and make a proper sequel.

@Mechalon: You could always hook up 2 N64 controllers and have a dual analog stick setup back in the old days if you wanted to. It was a hassle mind.

EdwinJ85

If this has online multiplayer, co-op, counter-op and slightly updated graphics (which it seems to have) then we have a game of the year here.

It's the game Perfect Dark always wanted to be. Online play shall complete it.

EdwinJ85

@khdownes: Shit runs like ass. Everyone knows that.

Thank you. Now all I need to know is the release date, This will be incredible.

@MooglesInMyFace: Agreed. Rare these days gets more blind hatred than anything else. Half the people whining about BK:N&B never even played the full game properly.

RockyRan

@zachncheeze: well my friend... I just want to tell you: HERE COMES THE BAAAAAAAANHAMMER!!!

abcFRAG

It never "required" the expansion pak, it just looked absolutely terrible and most of the content was unplayable. So I guess you're right.

Kinda excited for this.

Spaceboy

@N●Gage Croal: Yeah, what's the point in high resolution if the models look arse?

Bergerac

@Gemini-Phoenix:
Did you ever see the article about how a remake was being worked on? But that legal issues forced them to cancel... It was complete with pics, looked awesome.

riguitargod

@Weirdwolf is SPEEEEDIINNNG!: I'm not sure but I think those rights are gone now and considering Rare is now owned by Microsoft, it's very unlikely that they'll throw PD onto their competitors console. But stranger things have happened.

-MasterDex-

@Gemini-Phoenix: Don't forget Nintendo's role in Goldeneye. It helps to complicate things a bit more.

Danarcho

@Nexus6: Yes!

Danarcho

@Scrum:

In all honesty, I thought Goldeneye had the best multi because of the maps.

I remember playing Goldeneye a while after RE2 had come out, and one of my friends would take the female scientist and yell "YOU MURDERED MY HUSBAND!" (repeated line from late RE2)

Koztah

@CheekyLee: I had the same problem so I am not sue if will help you or not, but this is what I did. I own a 120gb HDD and I went to memory in console settings. I then went to System Setting and deleted everything except Avatar and Optional Update. Then I deleted most of my old themes and gamerpics (I had a ton) from my HDD. Lastly, delete any unused demoes and video and then perform the cache erasing code.
1. Go to the system blade and then select memory.
2. Press Y on the HD symbol and then press X,X,Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X. Once you do this a messsage will appear saying: Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?
I did this and ever since then my NXE guide has been a little snappier then before.

@ryujiikata:

Use THAT as a paperweight.

Koztah

@Madness:

Not quite. The Perfect Dark single player was superior, until it suddenly became time for aliens.

Koztah

It's amazing to me that nearly 10 years later when my friends who have scattered across the globe come to visit me one the things we are guaranteed to do is have a few rounds of P.D. what other game has that draw after a decade?
We all used to get together on a Sunday order pizza and have a drink and annoy the neighbours and would spend more time playing it if my N64 controllers hadn't got dodgy joysticks.
Oh and BAAASSSSTARRRRRRRRRDDDDDDSSSSSS...!!
I haven't got a 360 and want a Wii VC release DAMNIT! Has there been any statements from Nintendo about this? Didn't they have any rights as publisher?

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Dude, you're obviously right for so many reasons. If anybody disagrees, they probably fall into one of the categories you established. PD was great in its day.

Also, I can't help but think how good to update looks, especially for a 64 title. I mean, shit, that approaches Wii quality graphics. (sorry, had to go there)

It looks... well, it looks old. Time treats 3D games a lot worse than 2D ones. A new lighting engine or something would probably help here.

@fELIXADER: I'm glad I'm not the only person that still plays it from time to time!
Can't wait for this to release and the improvements make it even better! Sure, better graphics are alright, but that framerate? Heck yes!

@Kenny:

Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata are great, as is Kameo.

MooglesInMyFace

@woons:

Okay....wait....how does SHIT run though!?

khdownes

@mjn328: I'd be even happier if they were smart and modified the controls a bit to match common FPS configurations.

supo

Imagine what they could do if and when a port of Goldeneye ever surfaced on XBLA... Although I would think that a game like Goldeneye would deserve the full remake treatment - I can't see why RARE and Activision don't just join forces to create a Goldeneye remake for the X360...

(Obviously Activision now hold the licence for Bond games these days, so any Goldeneye release, either original or remake would have to be done in partnership with them)

@Đipic: but the multiplayer experience in Goldeneye was superior.

That's the thing though. People were so impressed with the multiplayer of Goldeneye that they failed to see that Perfect Dark had all the things that made the Goldeneye multiplayer so great and much, much more.

It's like me thinking Gran Turismo 1 was the best Gran Turismo when really Gran Turismo 3 was so much better. I'm blinded by nostalgia.

-MasterDex-

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: For me, and many others I'm sure, it had nothing to do with it being a James Bond game or nostalgia or any of that crap. No, it was purely and simply the multiplayer (though the fun campaign adds to it as well). I would play Goldeneye with my friends and siblings for hours on end. I dug the hell out of perfect dark when it came out and so did a some of my friends, but the multiplayer experience in Goldeneye was superior.

I wonder if just like rare added the Stop n Swop feature into Banjo after all these years, maybe they'll finally make the hidden cheese do something!

riguitargod

@fELIXADER: It was great back in the day but with the XBLA version having 60 FPS and full FPS controls no doubt, it's a definite purchase if only just to set up a Laptop gun and watch the bullets fly while the bodies drop.

will it have online multiplayer?

I just want them to allow for Multi-play lan with all the Xboxes in my house WITHOUT having to buy the game 3 times and each xbox having a live account.

I don't understand why they can't do this for local play! My GOD If you own freaking 3 xboxs why do I need to spend so much money to game with my family!! It's crazy!

Do I have to subscribe to Live in order to play all of the offline modes?

Snappywave: subtitle option + more access = profit

@expansionsss: "The issue is that Goldeneye came out when the system was still alive,"

It really was a triumph.

/Is being so sincere right now.

BraveSrRob

I just hope they allow local lan play and a couple XBoxes..

@zachncheeze: Are you even Comment Worthy? I think not.

@MDX:

Dick runs like shit.

woons

Imagine what they could do with Golden Eye. =[

Why is it that the announcement that most excited me from Microsoft occurred the day AFTER their press conference?!!?

This is a day 1 purchase for me, looks great and should play well!

I'm actually quite surprised. It's aged a lot better than I thought it would.

Hard to say if the graphics have been updated at all or if they've just upped the resolution.

Santar

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: You forgot to mention that PD had MP levels based off of or replicating Goldeneye levels. Who doesn't enjoy playing Felicity?

-MasterDex-

@jBusiness: My God how little respect I have for people complaining about these sorts of things.

Everyone has the option to use the same weapons, so there's nothing cowardly or shitty about it. It's the same with people complaining about the GL in CoD4. It's part of the gameplay, and the one who wins is the one who can utilize the gameplay the best. Why not complain about the ability to crouch during a game instead? It makes exactly as much sense, seeing as that is also a gameplay mechanic which could be utilized to win. If you suck at crouching, it is probably cowardly to win when crouching. Think about it.

And no, I rarely use the GL. I just like to think logically.

Gringorilla

The memories playing 4 player multiplayer on the same screen are priceless. Espescially while puff puff passing.

I never played PD, all I played was Goldeneye, Mario Kart 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day when that came out.

It sounds like I missed something.

@Sir-Lucius is sappin' your sentry: If you ever wanna bring a Nintendo 64 to its KNEES, do this- full roster of bots, not too hard, cause you wanna live, 4 players, all with double cyclones set to magazine discharge. Turn on the "Unlimited Ammo No Reloads" cheat. All of you hit fire at the same time. It will slow.. and then it will actually freeze. Or at least, it did for me, on my buddy's 64. Poor thing.

Dangeresque: Moustaches or GTFO

I was playing the Dreamcast in 2000...

I think there's a reason I was so unimpressed when my friend showed me this game...

Crap single player excellent mutiplayer

bluem4gic

The sad thing is this will be Rare's best release since before Star Fox Adventures... and it's a port of a N64 game. Ha.

love me some pd

xone9

@Here's Some Weapons: Well, what am I supposed to do with this jumper thing that came out?

@AngerII: Me too, but Timesplitters 2 was the best thing to come out of post-Nintendo Rare employees ;-)

@zachncheeze: no guys he's right this isn't news worthy. iI's totally headline worthy with a full 5 pages dedicated to it worthy though.

"A silkier framerate than ever before"... 20fps oughta do it....

I have PD for my N64, and great game that it is, I shudder to think if the framerate was any worse in certain spots. A version for my 360 better not slow down. Ever.

Mightion

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I agree. My family and friends played GE to death. And then we got PD zero and played that to death. We all agree PD is the better game but GE is still good.

I never beat Perfect Dark. My 11 year old mind was unable to understand how to beat the last level. I vaguely remember something about blowing up pillars. Looking forward to my today-age mind being unable to figure out why my 11 year old self was so in love with the Cyclone.

@asdf4321: It's playable online, but you need a license from the president.

One of the best games to grace the N64 and one of the best FPS of all time!

Love the news!

@SuprShin: Or you could put it in your N64 like a normal person.

@fELIXADER: ?Halo was 2001 wasn't it, was it not a launch title?

It'd also been worked on for a good couple of years before.

@AngerII: Same. BK:N&B is great.

SadAstronaut

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I agree with you. Goldeneye was an amazing game and I have many great memories of playing it back in 97/98 with friends and what not but PD was superior in every way to Goldeneye. I played it WAY more, enjoyed every aspect of it, and still play it every summer for nostalgia purposes.

Counter-operative mode here I come

@Kenny: Pff, opinion. I loved Kameo, Viva Pinata and BK:N&B.

@Combine: My brother deleted my Donkey Kong 64 file and I was so upset mum went and bought me chocolate.

Oh. My. God.
First day buy, I loved this on N64, but haven't been able to play it for years now.

Esa Jussila

@ServiceMaster: You should have seen the fist fight me and my brother had when Banjo-Kazooie file was accidentally deleted.

@Nirual: Battletoads.

I swear to god you set me up for that one, nobody could hold it against me.

Teira

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I am with you 100%. I have been saying this since PD came out, yet it seems that few listen.

The frame rate bitching is dumb. I barely remember having any problems. Rare pushed the N64 to its absolute limit with PD, and few people tend to give it the credit. There was more to do in that game than just about any other FPS released on the market in the past year. There were modes in that game that I never touched, mostly because I was too busy playing OTHER modes that were fucking gold. If you didn't get an expansion pack for that game, you missed out. Totally worth it, totally one of the greatest console shooters to ever exist.

Needless to say, I'm buying this the day it's released. Hell, I probably won't wait, I'll be playing this game next weekend most likely, even though the N64 controller frightens me these days. PD with an Xbox controller...oh good lord yes.

ajnewman

@Netnavi: I'm pretty sure that the problem with Goldeneye getting released is Activision Blizzard holds the James Bond rights, Nintendo originally published it and it will need to be released on XBLA... so yeah.. many reasons.

@Rem: I never had a problem with co-op and I can't for the life of me even remember an issue with its frames. Although, I still don't remember all that many issues with frame rates other then those damn tranquiliser guns.
I kind of want to go hook up my 64 and check now >.<.
Although that game had so many multiplayer aspects like co-op in it that are only now become standards. It really was ahead of its time.

Sorry to rape these comments list with mine but reading your guys' posts made me even more excited for this game.

I <3 PD!

(and no I did not change my name and pic after this story came out. I've had this avatar for awhile. AND YES I KNOW IT WAS KAZESIM IN THE GAME.)

I refuse to play the N64 version and I will wait for this winter to relive the Summer of 2000.

@zachncheeze:

Enjoy your ban.

I feel bad for my Nintendo 64. We barely play together any more and now I'm afraid I have one less reason to connect her to the tv. I can hear her scratching on her box just begging to play with me one more time. She has gotten so old. Her buttons are worn and sometimes she just won't turn on. Should I end her suffering?

John Rausch

@Kenny: Worst $375 million spent, ever.

Kotakufan777

@ServiceMaster: AWESOME story hahahaha.

@Ubersoldat19: It isn't an upgrade for me at all. I used to extend my right middle finger under the N64 controller and press the Z trigger to fire that way. I could actually fire pistols as fast as a goddamn machine gun.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: My 2nd favorite N64 game after Super Mario 64.

Perfect Dark was EASILY better than Goldeneye. I am assuming some people never bought the Expansion pack.

I just hope this doesn't give me the Marathon Motion Sickness Blues...

@Selah:

We've been spoiled by High-FPS games. I remember playing Perfect Dark back in the day and with it running around 24fps with dips sometimes to the teens, but it did not bother me one bit, I just played and had fun, not thinking anything of it. I also didn't know what FPS was lol. But today when i go back and play I can really feel the lag and it does bother me :(

PD was all about the COOP play though, that was one of the first COOP experiences I ever had.

Goldeneye also had frame rate issues, like when having a bunch of explosions at a time.

PS: But did you know Zelda: Ocarina Of Time is capped at 20FPS? Of course didn't matter back then, we were used to low fps and it was all gooood.

Danny Chen

@MDX: I would too, but my dashboard is so slow since NXE that I think I will more likely be playing it an hour or so after it releases.

CheekyLee

@MDX: Infection is fun as hell.

Rem

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I liked Goldeneye better because by the time Perfect Dark came out I had already grown to love Goldeneye more than any other game. Also, once I saw that I needed an expansion pack to play it, and the frame rate was still horrible, that was it for me. Why would I have wanted to "waste my money" on a game like that when I already had a perfectly good one?

Laptop gun is still the best gun in the history of gaming.

Buying this 5am ET time day one and playing online.

@asdf4321: To answer your questions in order:

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

(Seriously, did you read the article? It's going to look better, there will be extras, and it will be playable online. You don't need to ask three times, you don't need to yell and you shouldn't ask your question in a way that prevents a simple answer. Think about what you asked:

"Is this going to look better AND have a few extras OR will it be playable online?"

I honestly don't know exactly what you were trying to say there...)

peteer02

The low FPS is why I hated this game. Now that it runs at 60fps I'd like to give it a try... but I can't. I don't have a 360. :(

YuniYoshi

@Mechalon: Never had any Problems with the face buttons. I mean, MAn when i think back what i was capable in pulling of with those sometims awfull N64 control schemes then i have sometimesto wonder hwhat happened to me. ^^

I wonder what Rare will do when they run out of N64 games to port. They can't port Donkey Kong 64 and Diddy Kong Racing, and the attempt to port Golden Eye failed, so there isn't much left.

Nirual

@Delano_J: Perfect Dark came out 2ooo Halo came out 2002.

@Ubersoldat19: Indeed. Graphical updates are nice, online play is a plus, but revisiting a solid FPS with an improved control layout is the real reason I'm excited for this. Well, that and achievements, because I'm hopelessly addicted to them.

Well leave it to me to say I liked Goldeneye better. I just hated the level design in multiplayer and the graphics were such crap even with the expansion pack that I just gave up even trying to play it. Me and my friends would just play Goldeneye all day in the ruins and try and proximity mine each other.

I know PD had more stuff to it but for me the level design was just perfect in GE. Though I can't wait to get this on XBLA. Maybe when they see the sales someone ANYONE will get it through their heads that it's ok to release Goldeneye again like this. The only barrier is Nintendo. Someone has to get Iwata very drunk or buy him some hookers. Something!

@fELIXADER: it was fun, but it butchered the original.

@Monty: RARE is not Rare any more. It is not much more then the Brandname and the Characters that are left.

@silverhold: Me too. Easily.

IS THIS JUST GOING TO LOOK BETTER AND HAVE A FEW EXTRAS OR WILL IT BE PLAYABLE ONLINE?

IS THIS JUST GOING TO LOOK BETTER AND HAVE A FEW EXTRAS OR WILL IT BE PLAYABLE ONLINE?

IS THIS JUST GOING TO LOOK BETTER AND HAVE A FEW EXTRAS OR WILL IT BE PLAYABLE ONLINE?

asdf4321

I was a huge fan of Goldeneye. Shockingly I have never played Perfect Dark it had came out after I sold my N64 to buy a Dreamcast. I always thought I should buy a used N64 and pick this game up. I'm glad MS and Rare have given me the chance to play it on my 360 and have it shined up to boot.

@Cronoedge: Perfect Dark runs just fine on the N64. I know that cause i actually still have and play it.

@silverhold: Well I'll just flat out disagree then PDZ was the most fun I've ever had.

MDX

@Cronoedge: What exactly does dick run like?

MDX

@Combine: Yeah, co-op was pretty nearly unplayable because of it.

Man, I can't believe this is actually gonna happen. This game was the center of all my parties as a kid and it'll be nice to play it once again.

Rem

@Pitchswitch: I never thought the Farsight gun posed much of a threat if you, you know, kept moving. Campers deserved what they got.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Hah, my favorite custom game was to set all human players against a team of eight fist-sim bots, with human heads on the Maian alien bodies. You haven't lived until you've narrowly escaped being punched to death by a pack of midgets.

Another dorm-room favorite was throwing knives only, with smart slow-mo turned on. Nothing beats Matrix-dodging visible projectiles!

716

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I think most people who hold Goldeneye closer to their heart just kept playing Goldeneye even after PD came out. And obviously never got an Expansion pak.

Perfect Dark has to be in my top 5 most hours logged onto a console game. Sadly I left the game at a friends house and one of their little brothers deleted everything from both the memory pak and cartridge... I'll never forget picking him up and throwing him down outside to make him cry! I raged so hard, haha I'm sure I cried too. Hey! I bet most the people here would've done the same thing. I was level 7 for god's sake!! And don't be all like, "psh I was higher" no, no! This was way back when, and it was deleted probably in the same year. Augh!

Uh.. where was I? Oh yeah, Perfect Dark beats the SHIT out of Goldeneye. But whichever one is better is left to the eye of nostalgia.

Oh. My. God.

Sold.

AuthenticM

@expansionsss: You may have a point there.

@potatojenkins: It's really sad that for the most part bots have gone the way of the Dodo. I get that it's a lot easier to not have to program good multiplayer A.I., but I like the option of just doing a local match and filling the non-player spots with bots.

I think playing the game on a controller with 2 analogue sticks is going to be biggest improvement.

This is going to be awesome.

@Selah:
The only problems I can see with PD in modern times, is the lack of online, the controls, and frame rate. .. and I guess graphics. Actual gameplay is still top notch. I mean, it friggin' has bots. GOOD ones at that, which hardly any good FPS's have these days. Not to mention how insanely customizable the game is.

@I jizzed in my pants like a boss on a boat: I know there's a gun in MY lap top.

(What? Someone had to!)

716

@Combine: It's funny the things we as gamers could suffer through because we didn't know any better. :p

I kinda see it as a testament to the quality of the game. Despite the sometimes horrible slowdown the game suffered from, it was one of the most fun experiences of it's time.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk:

The issue is that Goldeneye came out when the system was still alive, while Perfect Dark came out in its waning years.

Btw, i want a Blast Corps sequel. Fucking incredible game, with soooo much depth.

expansionsss

@Inglix:

Hell even single player was a slide show when rockets were involved.

This game had sooo many weapons / gadgets, and the challenges for each level made goldeneye seem like a cakewalk.

expansionsss

@I jizzed in my pants like a boss on a boat:

No no no, it's better to have the Farsight because you can scope into the women's locker room

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: 2 and 3 are wrong I think. #2, I hate Bond, and many don't care for the franchise. #3, nostalgia doesn't count for why people thought it was better when it was still relatively new.

The other stuff you said may be true. :)

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Oh God Dark Sims. I remember being so excited when I finally unlocked them, only to die literally as soon as the round started the first match I played against them. I love the fact that they were intentionally designed to break the rules of the game to win. To this day one of my crowning video game achievements is being able to not just survive Dark Sims, but actually return some of the hurt they dish out.

@Cronoedge: You could have 4 player multiplayer just fine. The problem kicked in once you started adding bots. There was never a reason to play without bots though.

The frame rate issues can actually add to the fun. Perfect Dark + tranquilizer + drinking + friends = more fun than 90% of games released in the last year.

Except Perfect Dark ran like dick on the N64.

Cronoedge

Take any N64 game that was also released on PC, compare that and there you go! This looks just like a DirectX 7/8 PC game. Which most N64 games ended up like looking like later on, just more blurry. Dare I say that some N64 High Rez projects are more awe inspiring? Yes, yes, not the point here, but why the flutternut not? They only have a professional team at their disposal...

CraigJapants

Perfect Dark tried to do too much with too little hardware, THAT was its downfall. Choppy ass framerates did not make for a fun game. Goldeneye, at least, ran at a steady framerate through most of the game, and you could have 4 player multiplayer without your N64 vomiting blood to get the action on screen.

Cronoedge

At least GoldenEye didn't have absolutely horrid framerate issues. Not that it matters. Both games have aged horribly to the point of being almost unplayable anyway.

Selah

@Cronoedge: no goldeneye came out first and perfect dark improved on it in every way and form. From the single-player missions to multiplayer.

"2000 classic"? Damn, I feel old.

peteer02

@MDX:

I do.

silverhold

@Jonbo298: Y'know, all those years ago when I was playing this game I never realised the Frame Rate was such an issue. But thinking back I do realise it would've definitely existed in parts.

If those Live features include multiplayer, which they obviously should, I'll be in nerd heaven with this.

One of my favorite FPS games, ever. And not just "for its time" just ever, period. The graphics of the N64 might look pretty sketchy today, but the gameplay....oh the gameplay. So good. The weapon selection is amazing, the levels are well designed, and the local multiplayer is fantastic.

Smoothing out the graphics and framerate, even a little, and adding that online multiplayer is just...too much goodness. One of the best announcements to come out of e3 this year. Glad it's no longer just a rumor.

And yeah, it's better than Goldeneye. I'm sure there are folks out there that will say otherwise, but I doubt many of them have really played both games to completion to get the full experience.

jcb231

@Kenny: Yeah, I wish Microsoft would let them get back to making games like this and Killer Instinct.

Goldeneye was better.

Cronoedge

@MDX: Same... This was amazing. Anyone remember when you unlocked the dark and perfect agent bots for multiplayer just how hard they actually were.

Laptop gun for the win.

@Kenny: I prefer mine Medium-well.

@Sir-Lucius is sappin' your sentry: Surprisingly, I find an alarming number of people still believing Goldeneye is the victor here. Some call it an epidemic. I'm here with a shotgun and a prayer, and by God the light will shine here today.

@jBusiness: It's funny you say that because of you look at the Perfect Dark page on the Xbox Marketplace, it mentions the Farsight in the game description. :)

CI254

@zachncheeze: you're not post worthy

@SuprShin: Wait. Do you have an expansion pak you need to get rid of? Cause I need one.

I still have an N64 but don't remember playing anything other than Mario 64 and FIFA 64 for it... I've heard all the rave reviews about this game but never tried it. What's the big deal, and why should I care in 2009? I'm interested but don't know why this has such a following.

HibikiRush

@jBusiness: once again, turn the gun off if you don't like it.

@mjn328: Yeah how sexy was that? Turtle sims? Do you remember the ones that would just wander around, and only melee you if you pulled out a weapon? HAHA!

I remember filling up a room of those bots, putting them on highest difficulty, and trying to keep them at bay.
Perfectsims, darksims, peacesims(these were the ones), meatsims, the list goes ON.

Multiplayer: Deathmatch, capture the case, hold the briefcase, king of the hill, pop a cap, hacker central.

Duel mode you unlocked as well as additional story missions (The one with Mr. Blonde?) to flesh out more of the storyline.

Amazing weapons: Dragon, Super Dragon, Farsight Xr-20 Throwing knives (with poison!), the ability to disarm, Falcon pistol, Falcon w/scope, the ability to CLOAK, a gun that not only has a sick rate of fire but also allows you to cloak with it's ammo, random ass skedar alien weapons.

Memorable Characters: An ALIEN SIDEKICK named ELVIS who was actually kind of FUNNY, videogame's first black President, Carrington and a tough, badass and not overly sexualized main character.

What did Goldeneye have? James Bond and Oddjob, deathmatch style multiplayer. Karate chop... uh.

Weapons: Golden gun and Klobb.. hmm.

Let the numbers speak for themselves I guess. And I know I am not doing PD justice here, I am leaving out so much, I just can't recall all the weapon names.

@Pitchswitch: I keep hearing people complain about this gun. In Single Player, it wasn't used much. In multiplayer, turn it off. Simple...

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I agree that Perfect Dark is the superior game. Goldeneye was pretty good. Perfect Dark was simply awesome.

Doesn't mean Goldeneye was bad. Doesn't mean those who like Goldeneye better are wrong, either.

But personally, today I'd replay Perfect Dark because I don't remember much from the plot. Goldeneye I probably wouldn't bother.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I honestly never even realized there was a discussion on this. I thought it was universally accepted that the unofficial sequel to Goldeneye improved upon it in every single way.

It looks like a high-res N64... That's... great... I guess.

Still, it having online support is awesome. That's good enough for me.

@Mechalon: Going from 20 fps to 60 fps will yield a huge improvement in input lag. It's going to be great!

Inglix

@Scrum: The multiplayer was better, but the framerate took a massive hit as a result.

On the N64, I think Goldeneye had slightly better multiplayer. On the 360, Perfect Dark would be the better of the two because of the better framerate.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Laptop Gun. Thats it.

Can you say DO WANT? This game was frickin' awesome on N64. Shame we couldn't get Goldeneye, but hey, I always liked PD better! I can't wait to play this!!

@Sir-Lucius is sappin' your sentry: Perfect Dark at 60 fps alone is worth the price of admission. The rest is just topping

@mjn328: I'd be happy with a constant 30FPS... hell, I'd be ecstatic at anything above 10FPS during multiplayer with more than 2 people in the same room...

@WonkersWatilla: I don't know about that one..

MDX

@zachncheeze:
It's news about a game. Take your douchebaggery back to gamefaqs.

The first of Rare's N64 ports that will fully benefit from the dual analog controls of the 360. I imagine not only does it look better and run smoother, it probably feels better and plays better just because of two analog sticks instead of one and face buttons.

Mechalon

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: My only and biggest problem with Perfect Dark was the gun that shot through walls and was instant kill. I thought it really cheapened the game.

I highly recommend drunken games using only tranquilizors

the_funny_thing_is

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: i agree 100% besides being the best movie game ever, nothing about it is better than perfect dark. i cant touch goldeneye now, but i can play perfect dark with my brother for hours....judgesim, vengesim...classic multiplayer. and the alien weapons...badass

Chris Farmer

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: PD was in fact better. The guns were better, the levels were better, the bots were better.
Really the multiplayer just blew James bonds out of the water.

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: GoldenEye 007 > Perfect Dark.

@zachncheeze: these are the first shots i've seen of the game, not easy to stumble upon a game like this through E3 week. thanks for posting, Kotaku, I deem this- newsworthy

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: I REALLY didn't think that Perfect Dark played better.

Now hopefully they reward you with a negative achievement when you kill someone with the FarSight. Or maybe they just got rid of that bullshit gun.

@MDX: Yeah, great use of XBLA. I'm definitely waiting on this one.

danjlove

@mjn328: Also, it had freakin' bots for multiplayer! Fully customizable bots!

@elevenoverzero: me too, it was like Goldeneye on PEDs. Dare I say it...better multiplayer (at least it had bots)

Scrum

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: My friends think I'm insane because I like Perfect Dark more. They have problems.

Wow. To think Halo came out what, a little over a year later? Console jumps back then were huge. Still pretty huge if you compare Gears to Fable, I guess.

Delano_J

Guys, I don't care what anyone says. This was leaps and bounds better than Goldeneye.

Want to know why everyone says Goldeneye is better than Perfect Dark?

1) It just happened to come out first. If Perfect Dark came out first, we'd be in the exact reverse situation. Goldeneye wouldn't even see the light of day.

2) People like James Bond. True that, hard to argue this one. Some people may not have liked PD's "flavor" or style, but it was brilliant.

3) Nostalgia. Yes, the Nostalgia of playing a GOOD James Bond game gets to the best of us (even me), and skews our memory.

Fact is, Perfect Dark, looked better, played better, and sounded better than Goldeneye. It had a story, the characters had some depth (not knocking Goldeneye, 006(butchered spelling) is one of the coolest bond characters out there), and the gameplay was phenomenal.

PLUS: You could take the president's head and put it on an alien's body in multiplayer.. how cool was that?

C'mon! Who's with me?!

damn, damn, damn...by far my favorite n64 game. took everything that made goldeneye great and made that 10 times ever. and its xbl exclusive....bastards, oh well. i need to get an xbox anyway for the netflix and they're pretty cheap now.

Chris Farmer

Fuck yes! This game was awesome. I prefered it to Goldeneye :X

Buttaface!

mellowspaz

This has to stop. My wallet can't take it. Between the PS1 games coming to the PSN and this, I just can't handle it. Especially since I already own all these games. But who wouldn't want FFVII and Metal Gear on the go? And who wouldn't want Perfect Dark at 60 friggin fps? Crazy people, that's who.

@zachncheeze: "News worthy?"

I don't know, but you sure are ban-worthy.

What no Expansion Pak required?! Fuck, well looks like I still have a paper weight.

SuprShin

I wish I had a laptop gun.

Too bad good games made by Rare these days are...

AHEM.

Rare.

@zachncheeze:

From the looks of your comments.. it's quite clear you're part of the SDF. Grow up.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Side by side comparisons would help highlight how big a difference there is. The N64 PD was much blurrier according ot memory, I just want ot see the comparison. Someone get on it!

Considering I still play Perfect Dark on my Nintendo 64 now--I was even thinking about going through the campaign again on the hardest difficulty the day before they announced it was coming to XBLA--I'm understandably excited by these screenshots.

The 60 FPS thing is even more important than the 1080p...this is going to be awesome.

Superior to Perfect Dark Zero even after all these years. Take that, stupid blue guide arrows.

yikes...dare I say wOOt? I will hold back until the timing is "Perfect"...Dark. God that was the lamest post ever.

t stll dsn't lk tht mzng, hh. Nws wrthy?

zachncheeze

And I'll be playing this gem the minute it releases.

MDX

This. Is. AWESOME. Like a lot of people here, next to Diablo II and Smash Bros. Melee, I put more hours into this game than any other. What rank were you all at? I made it 5, but forget the title. Never could get past that rank... :-(

finalgearsolid

@Rem: Infection is awesome. I played that mode over and over whenever I got online with the game.

kylenalepa

60FPS?? Well thats awesome!

@WonkersWatilla: Agreed. Perfect Dark Zero was a massive disappointment, whereas the first one still holds up as a classic after all these years.

hmmm...
i wonder if you can still connect the gameboy version to unlock some cheats?

So, am I reading this right that it's going to be online multiplayer as well?

If so, count me in. Perfect dark is like Timesplitters, but arguably more badass.

Ralavik

Shigeru Miyamoto's face was scanned and place into this game on one of the soldiers. As was Matt Cassassimina from IGN.

Speaking of faces, I wonder if Rare will put back the face-mapping functionality they were forced to remove out of the N64 version prior to release.

sits

What, they couldn't use her face from PDZ? it will be great as a game and does look 100 times better but damn.

Tyr4nt

@Go Go Gadget: Thugmunk: Nostalgia is also the only reason people give a shit about Perfect Dark.

Yes, Perfect Dark was better than Goldeneye - but they both paled considerably in comparison to the PC games out at the time. I'll take Quake II and Unreal over Goldeneye and Perfect Dark any day of the week.

@Đipic: Nostalgia: a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition.

You've basically said, it has nothing to do with nostalgia, I just feel nostalgic for Goldeneye.

-MasterDex-

@EdwinJ85: It was closer bbut not close enough to modern FPS control schemes.
Believe me, Ive tried it.

@ca$h is now... The Day Man!: :(

@Rem: As a kid? Ugh, now I feel old, this was like party game for my last 2 years of college.

@MooglesInMyFace: Nice to see Kameo getting some love. N&B was a lot of fun, and Viva Pinata is virtual crack.

@sereal: I actually kinda wish Microsoft had bought Free Radical when they went belly up and let them go back as part of Rare. Maybe they wouldn't want to go, but maybe a Rare without Nintendo limiting thier budget like crazy would have been appealing to them. I dunno. Maybe not, I'm sure they had plenty of new stuff they wanted to do, but I wouldn't have minded seeing THEM do a new PD.

@sandal-hat wishes he could quit Capcom: Actually ass runs like tits.

The Amazing Exploding-Man

@jinkywilliams: but you COULD modify it and modify pretty much anything, unlike oooh halo, cod killzone 2 etc.

JimmyPewtron

@Imin2Nuggets: Not with that attitude you couldn't.

The XBL sales record is in jeopardy.

Teecee

They should resurrect the ability to place our faces in PD. PLEASE! I want to shot the ever loving crap out of my friends.

LaneMedusa

Why does she look like Sarah Palin?

byzantinebobby

day 1 purchase!

@The Amazing Exploding-Man: who run like KENYANS.

Well being able to play this without the constant dip in FPS and with better visuals is very enticing. I think I will get it even though I have it on the N64. Anyone know how big its going to be file size wise? My 20 gig isnt getting any bigger.

Perfect Dark Was and is hands down the best FPS ever. And if they fixed the frame rate issues, made it online playable, and made it so you could play all levels in campaign or multi-player and a few other minor tweaks... I would never have to buy another FPS game AGAIN!!! Insanely customizable and the developers had planned to do even more with it if the N64 could've help up. I still drag out PD64 to play on my friends big screen TV. Still got all the stats saved (ran something like 150 KM in multiplayer and expended 250000 rounds of ammo)
Features: Smart slo-mo.... you can even strap a remote mine to a bot issue an order and send him out as a bomber...yes very sick, but wow! Also still never beat every skill level in the game, it's still a challenge. It's a gaming work of art. Good times. A game that should be re-issued.

hudnut19