Sony Expects Metal Gear Solid Rising On PS3 At Launch

@SILVERAMMO:

Given that Raiden was upgraded back to human-esque parts at the end, I'd say before. I highly doubt he'd go back to wearing that metal jaw again.

Squirrelbot3000

@sentroshi:
In one word...

Yes.

Squirrelbot3000

@Jim Gallo:

Hate to tell you, but MGS2 already went multiplatform during the last wave of consoles. Only it didn't succeed, and MGS3 stayed on PS2 because it actually SOLD.

Squirrelbot3000

@fiffer86:
What's not to believe? The VP of 360 development (the white boy onstage with Kojima who got dissed in his Solid Snake statement) even admitted just minutes after the announcement to press that it was in fact not an exclusive. He pointed out specifically that they were careful to not use the terminology.

Oh, and Konami already announced it in their handouts for the game, specifically mentioning multi-platform.

Squirrelbot3000

@Mr. Tambourine Man:

Actually, it's more a sequel to MGS3 and Portable Ops.

Squirrelbot3000

@xXn00bXx:

Hi, Metal Gear NES fan here.

1989 called. They think you've got your facts screwed up.

Squirrelbot3000

@gachzorge:

So MGS2 ported to Xbox was okay to do then?

Look, I'm a die-hard PS/MGS fan, but even I knew they wouldn't go forever with MGS being exclusive to Sony. Hell, it already happened, so why not again?

Squirrelbot3000

@Mr. Tambourine Man:

Fatman was a lunatic on rollerblades who loved bombs. How the hell is that not a good time?

Volgin was pretty typical of your standard bad guy bent on world domination, I'll give you that-- but the man could explode bullets from his knuckles for Pete's sake.

As for the Cobras, I thought they all had their own motives that made each one pretty darn cool.

Squirrelbot3000

@SphericalCrusher:
I noticed your thread had no replies, so I thought I'd just beef it up a little more.

Yes, I thought Raiden was fun to play as well. Despite the occasional whining.

Squirrelbot3000

@Aex:

Og it does indeed. However that is still replacing the "Tactical Espionage Action" tag line that has so aptly described the game for years. I can't see them replacing such an iconic quote if it didn't mean something.

@Polite Society: One console is pretty much the pc. People just gotta start making standards in requirements and build games to scale. Hell even a console could be make which might run all 'medium games' and plugs into your tv and has controllers. All it would be is a computer in a smaller box with a special game OS.

sereal

@CriminoleLaw: I take it your pulling that number out of your ass but okay.

sereal

@CriminoleLaw: it came to pc and I didn't buy it either ;)

sereal

@Etheris: Meh don't worry, all the complain is from people who spent their money on a 360, a few years of live, perhaps rrod and bought a new 360, paid more for accessories, and now they are feeling that because they wasted their money everyone else should too.

sereal

@LanciePants: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...

sereal

@Anarchist_Gamer: That's what I thought pc was until a few years ago.

sereal

@fanboyish: yeah because people sure wanted to play ff7,8,9 on the n64.

sereal

@NaeemTHM: yeah since mgs4 was released as a exclusive. It's a huge pick move to make your fans buy two consoles just so they can finish the series.

sereal

@Masterpain22: Same here. I totally understood it was going to be multiplatform, but maybe because I had seen the list of platforms beforehand (PC, too? orly!). The big hubbub at Microsoft's announcement was that they were getting an MGS title AT ALL. Don't be putting words into other people's mouths.

@DemiurgicSoul: i was thinking that same thing

grandmufti

@fanboyish: Except if I recall, it was Nintendo's own douchebaggery that led to Sony cancelling development on that SNES CD-ROM attachment. After that they went their own way.

Besides, the PSX was better suited for what Square had in mind with FFVII than the N64.

aaaaaaaand breath

@Sir-Lucius is sappin' your sentry &
@Etheris:

Stop the argument, these guys^ have THE point!

delicious.

@fanboyish: Yes, I agree. They also f*cked over with PC gaming (GTA!). Now tell me M$ shouldn't deal some payback.

@Sonira - I am old news.:
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

@blahxkyou: Yes, Peace Walker on PS3 would have been ideal.

jeremyschultz

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2:
Bah. I forgot to mention.

The Hardcore enthusiasts, the "Core" demographic, no longer make up the majority of the userbase for any console.
They tend to be the loudest and the most brash, yes, but they have long been eclipsed by the more common citizen.

The ones without a 100% save on ANY Metroid game.

@LordMaim:

I have neither a PS3 nor a 360.

Don't label me a fanboy for parties I care nothing about.(Not all of you did, but I'm getting weird vibes from a few of you.)

I'm just pointing out the double standard. "It's ok to have your own exclusives but it's not ok for you to have yours!"

Look, the whole meanings of exclusives are to generate support and interest in a specific console. Outside the realm of console-centrism, it just means something you won't find anywhere else.

Usually, the main goal of most developers is to generate the most amount of money for the least amount of investment. A console exclusive might work if the main fanbase lies in that console. Yet there is no accurate way to assess how many fans are on such consoles.

It may seem logical to think that because it was on Console(N),Console(N+1) and Console(N+2) then it must be on the Console(k).
Things are hardly ever that simple. What about those who couldn't justify the large tag that came with Sony Hardware? What about the people who aren't die hard enthusiasts for the franchise but would like to play it? What about those who are wary of the projected failure rates of the 360?

There are countless variables on to decide the demographic of the people on the system.

There is only a binary switch set up for exclusivity.

There you go. That's the difference.

Microsoft doesn't have enough exclusive content, so they advertise multiplatform games and PRETEND like they're exclusive, while coyly not actually saying it.

Whereas, Sony focuses on exclusive content, and still can't fit it all within the conference, since it can't be numerous hours long.

-Xehanort

@Wolf_Dog: Haha. That made me smile.

@Sloopydrew: "Sony and Microsoft announced just as many exclusives as Sony"

Mind = blown.

@Hey_Blinkon: AC5 was on Playstation, like its predecessors. I think you want AC6.

MechaTama31

@Anarchist_Gamer: except I feel that the competition between the consoles makes them strive to provide better value to their users. One console this generation would probably have meant a $1000 lump with barely passable online components. Admittedly more people would probably move back to pc gaming if something like that happened. One console indeed.

@Mesren_Makai: Tactical Waggling Action.

@THEJOHNNYOHM: He did breakdance Gecko to death. He did.

@Michael Breese:

Well, that is unless either Microsoft or Sony is willing to cover the development cost themselves.

valkyriex

i was telling people that Msoft was just using flash and crap to distract. Kojima loves us to much to leave us

@excel_excel: I agree, that was a perfect response. Full of many wins.

Lol fuck that guy.

He don't know shit about their conference then. They showed a video with barely any exclusives shown...

Astronus

@Communist_Gamer:

MS is so desperate they are pouring money for multi-platform developers to "announce exclusively"... and what's really happening is that people are laughing behind their back.

I knew it from first moment it was not exclusive. First of all, we never heard word "exclusive" on that MS show, Konami would be extremely stupid to do that since almost all MGS fans bought PS3 for MGS4. If you can assume that even 25% of those 4-5 million who bought MGS4 would buy Rising, you can make games and not to worry about it.

Kojima is a good person, he wants to share his games with wider audience, with 360 players - and what does MS do? Buy them to make "exclusive announcement".

"Don't! I didn't say anything about Solid Snake!"

elmorepow

PS3 exclusive extra content for BD disc can hold more data.

jellyfish

@Mesren_Makai:
Us gamers who own a Wii are smart enough to not expect a port for a title like this.

But I've been wrong before.

@Masterpain22:

Actually the reason is because no one mentioned it on Sony's press conference, thats why.

Virussz

@Mesren_Makai:

Excuse me, what about MGS:R for wii?
I heard a rumor that another team working on it and it comes with special adapter that you connect to usb + wii tv out and you can play the game on 720P.

Virussz

@kwicherbichin:

Agree, that and the warm fuzzy felling when you know that somewhere some fanboy kid banging his head on the floor and crying that another system got Exclusive game or that an exclusive game was taken from his system to another one.

Virussz

@thedoorsdk:
Judging from how Raiden was depicted in MGS4, I can't really see sneaking to be necessary.
I mean christ, he practically breakdanced a couple of Gecko to death.

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: I don't know about you, but I like a lot of games that Kojima hasn't done.

And so do you. WTF man?

Bialia

I could care less about this game. To me it's just another game with a ninja.

@fanboyish: Actually it was Nintendo that drove square away from them and not Sony taking them away.

@MaxDragon7: another good idea could be to get DLC for the game and allow people who own the psp game get it for free, get exclusive content, or get a discount.

@Slagathorian: meh gears is better than halo

So if Halo: Reach was announced as a multi-platform game for the Xbox 360 and PS3, Sony wouldn't say a word at their press conference?

They also say they only share exclusives, even though misled gamers into believing FF XIV was exclusive? (Although MS did the exact same thing with Splinter Cell, it doesn't have the same raging fanbase that FF does)

@CriminoleLaw: Because MGS4 is the perfect game amirite?

I love Metal Gear, but I love it for its bombastic narrative rather than its gameplay which is starting to feel a little archaic.

I love Halo as well, It's a good franchise and if it did go to PS3 it would sell millions despite what you may believe. Other excellent console FPSs have arrived but none have played quite as well as even the first Halo (although COD4 was extremely good but in a different way). It's by no means perfect though and the story in the latter entrys turned out to be pretty lame. The first game is an absolutely fantastic, genre changing classic, as was the the first MGS.

I'm glad that I dont have to lend a friends PS3 to play the next MGS, and that I can give some cash to Konami for their brilliant work. But I also would be glad if PS3 owners could play Halo as it's a great game.

Both MS and Sony had great conferences and I really will be wanting to get a PS3 next year if they drop the price or I can get a good second hand one. GOW III and Uncharted 2 look brilliant, as do Splinter Cell and Forza 3 for MS. Even Nintendo's conference had me in raptures when SMG 2 was announced.

Just an awesome time to be playing Video Games, people shouldn't be getting bitter and jealous about which console they do or don't own.

Less hate, more love man. LESS HATE, MORE LOVE.

@bobtheduck: $10 says it gets dropped again.

RawSteelUT

@Ricardo Freitas: Microsoft does seem to like to bring trendy hipster douchbags on stage during their events. It's annoying.

DemiurgicSoul

@Masterpain22:
XBOX fanboys 80%, PS3 fanboys 20%. Add 2oz Rum, 1oz Vodka. Pour over ice and shaken not stirred.

:P

NewSpecies

@firefly:
I think it was more Kojima and Konami's decision to let each console have their moment separately. If Koj/Kon did announce Rising at Sony, it would have been equivalent to turning around, pointing and laughing at 360, then kicking them in the nads.

In other words, not good business.

Squirrelbot3000

@LordSock: Two douches could be combined into an enema though...

Hey_Blinkon

@ everyone: This thread is getting fucking ridiculous. Let me lay it out for you.

Exclusives are good, in fact, GREAT things. They serve a purpose and are justified by one of 2 reasons. First, they could be made by a First or Second party dev. As the 1st party typically foots some or all of the bill, this is not a "douchey" thing. 3rd party exclusives are really only justifiable if the game is tailored specifically to the system it is exclusive for. Each platform is different, with strengths and weaknesses, and exclusives can be tailored to take advantage of these, and make a game of a quality that would not have been possible as a multi-plat, because the lowest common denominator would have to be used. I know it is not the perfect example, but take, if you will, RE5. It was on PS3 and Xbox360 (exclusive to 2 consoles), but not Wii. If the game were to have been made for all 3 (and the game were the same between all three), the quality of the Xbox and PS versions woud have suffered substantially. Making exclusives in this fashion is also not "douchey". Whether MGS4 not being ported to the Xbox360 or not falls into this category or not is another discussion. Also, how often this is actually the case is also debatable.

What undeniably IS douchey is for a 3rd party dev to make a game that is NOT specifically designed for a specific platform, but to make it exclusive due to, well, persuasive monetary considerations. This is the case of games such as AC5, and most certainly console specific DLC. Please notice I did not say these businesses shouldn't do this, as they are a business and are supposed to act in their own monetary interests, as we are all aware. The act is still, however, douchey, especially on the part of the platform owners, but also the devs.

Hey_Blinkon

i wonder if it is after the events of mgs 4 or before

SILVERAMMO

@Etheris:

Smells delicious! Dinner's ready!

Squirrelbot3000

@excel_excel:
Only KZ2 is actually less douchey to play.

Squirrelbot3000

@LanciePants:
"Excuse me, but where can I get this Lightning Rising douche? My elderly mother is very excited about it."

Squirrelbot3000

@fanboyish: I don't know that Sony took Square's IP as much as Square left Nintendo because of Nintendo's choices.

Hey_Blinkon

@Trailnutz: This is where someone bemoans the absence of a Wii port.

Mesren_Makai

@CriminoleLaw: Uh. You did. Its called Killzone 2.

@BizarroVapor: worse use of w00t ever.

@Đipic: best use of that phrase ever.

@fanboyish: sorry but PC's don't count toover 90% of us.

CriminoleLaw

@Slagathorian: please don't compare that mediocre fps to metal gear solid in anyway. If halo came onto ps3 i still wouldn't buy it.

CriminoleLaw

I already read an article that confirmed this but I must say, hearing it straight from the source makes me feel better. It was more of a question of will it be a timed exclusive, but I'm glad it won't be.

@emwurst: Fucking priceless dude. +1

@IMarcus: PS3 version is wayyyyyyy better. The Xbox version only runs 640 lines of resolution and has lower quality textures when you zoom in 20x. Besides the Cell processor is 7.5x more powerful than the Shizbox 360's as everyone knows.

There, I've gotten it out, so we can move on. Let's play!

jf04gli

@BizarroVapor: And we care because...?

@BizarroVapor: Cool story, bro.

@Sloopydrew:

And a second after posting I remember Left 4 Dead 2 and Halo Reach. That's 10 console exclusives for the Xbox 360. MS doesn't have a handheld and isn't making games for its last-gen console. How many exclusives did Sony show for the PS3 at E3 this year?

Dille was talking out of his ass. As I said in the first post in this thread, Sony and Microsoft announced just as many exclusives as Sony -- if not more. If you want to talk handhelds and last-gen consoles that may change, but comparing 1 console (360) to 3 (PS3, PS2, PSP) would be sort of ridiculous, wouldn't it?

@Ricardo Freitas: "I like games".... if what you like is games, then you are only playing ps3, for like 4-6 games? I honestly didnt think killzone 2 was all that hot... GOW 3 will be worth having my expensive movie player hehehe....cause that is all it does is play my blu-rays...gaming, i use the gaming system. yeah I pay 50 bucks a year, but im also not crying about home sucking (it does) and the network not working all the time, or about a bluetooth headset that picks up a cat farting 12 blocks away either.

Sonys system on paper is better....until sony who is still trying to run shit like its 2002 when they WERE Running shit....sigh. Sad to see, cause its like they have no clue what to do, like a deer in the headlights...they think you owe them your money now, instead of them having to earn it...

Good luck sony, as I think this year is another *Year of PS3* that not only wont be what was stated, but that will be a really bad year, especially if there isnt a price drop....

w00t.

@henri1kk: The problem with your logic is that you somehow assume that everyone who criticizes Microsoft's extreme levels of douche somehow condones Sony's. That's not the case, but Sony, while their execs have run their mouths, currently aren't the ones with the most questionable practices. You bring up Sony's history but you're ignoring the fact that people were pissed off back then too. The difference is that everyone else but you has moved on. Who knows, generations from now everyone might be bitching out Sony for being more douchey than Microsoft.

It's the same as whenever someone brings up the RROD and people immediately try to point out the PS2 wasn't perfect. Well, yeah, but so what? That's the past and is largely irrelevant to the current situation. People were pissed off then too, just like people are pissed off with the shitty hardware in the 360 now.

And corporations, unlike indiviudals, aren't gonna learn from being "douched out." They'll just find new, more subversive ways to achieve their goals.

@firefly: The presentations are planned too far in advance to change a day before because of reactions to competitors.

@Riktor: Xbox360 owners don't deserve a game because Microsoft screwed up? That doesn't make any fucking sense. We don't work for Microsoft just because we own the system.

@kingmanic: Yah you're right I did read "then I know the PS3 quality will be better" wrong. I thought you meant you knew it would be better than 360, but you just meant better.

@Combichristoffersen:

Xbox 360 console exclusives: Forza 3, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Mass Effect 2, Crackdown 2, Halo: ODST, Joy Ride, Shadow Complex. Those are just off the top of my head. Next time you may want to pay attention before typing nonsensical things.

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: Hey, if they can figure out a way to make that game run on a 360, have at er. 12 DVD games might be a bit of a technical issue though.

Isn't this ALSO on PC?

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: Live is better because all my friends play on Live, "because Live is better".

Not trying to be a wet blanket here, but why is a game that no one has claimed to be exclusive in any form getting so much speculation over the state of its exclusivity? En entire article? Really?

If it had even a minute of timed exclusivity, Microsoft would have shouted it from the rooftops. Of course the PS3 version is gonna be available day and date with the xbox version. Konami isn't going to stop making MGS exclusive to PS3, only to turn around and make it exclusive to xbox, timed or no.

What is significant is that Sony's last big third party mainstay has gone multiplatform.

Jim Gallo

@henri1kk:

I really don't understand your logic since all three companies are bad especially Microsoft.

I also disagree that Sony always gets away with the crap they do is wrong, which isn't true. I mean, didn't they get sued for having the vibration feature for their controls?

As for the Sony and Nintendo thing, youre forgetting that Nintendo also screwed over Sony by announcin that they have gotten Phillips to make the snes cd and therefore dropping their license with Sony so abrutly. If someone can correct me, I think the big N switched to Phillips without Sony knowing.

No offense but you come off as a fanboy, henri1kk.

doomsaber

@Anarchist_Gamer: OMG WTF are you talking about? I don't even know what your point is! What did I say that offended you? Yah Sony should continue to have MGS games on their console as there are fans that have bought Sony's consoles feeling comfortable that Sony will continue to have the franchise on the platform. I never said anything about how it should remain exclusive or any shit like that, just that it should not be taken away. I feel the same way about every platform, I would feel that if Blizzard decided to make Diablo III for consoles, that they should continue to make it for PC and not alienate their original fans. Jeeze.

SONY, YOU GREEDY!

@themissing: As an owner of both the 360 and the PS3, I say that I wish there were more exclusives. I have no reason to justify owning both systems otherwise.

@Kanji08: This, and only this.

@Duane Llave: OH NO CHANGING A DISC!

@Duane Llave: It would be hilarious if even though this was being developed for(possibly on) the 360, that kojima's perfectionism called for 2 discs on it.

@emwurst: haha comment of the year here

@LllusionX:Proud Commander of the Sony Attack Force Helghan!: HMM?? Wouldn't be saying that if it was a PS3 exclusive would you??

@Michael Breese:

Yeah most exclusives are only a time release thing or a regional thing. No one just makes one game for only one console it would be financial suicide in today's economy. I mean look at what happen to MGS4 the publisher never got the projected sells they wanted not even close to it. It's just a move to make more money to off set the cost and losses. I would release the game for everything too, heck if there was a strong following of Atari 2600's still being used I would release it for that too just to cover the cost of the last MGS game lol.

cippycup

Boom Goes the Dynamite on 360 fanboy dreams everywhere!

So are we going to have some Konami Conference live blogging this time around?

Letiumtide

@Strangelove: Like I said in another article about this, and like Etheris said, this is would have been like if Epic came out and said Gears of War 2 would be PS3 exclusive. The fanbase had been established on one system, many of whom bought the system for that game, and then the dev decided to say "Screw you" and put the next entry into the series on another system.

It's irrelevant whether it's Sony or Microsoft, and the fact that you're focusing on company names shows the tint of your glasses. A douchebag is a douchebag, and it doesn't distinguish between Microsoft and Sony.

@Ness: that means it will suck.... :(

Who would believe a word that any head of Sony/Microsoft says? Not saying Rising isn't going to ps3, but until Konami or Kojima announces its multi-platform, I'm not going to pay any attention to this "he said/she said" business. Just like the Agent, until Rockstar announces it being truly exclusive, no point in believing the people that live to bring more people to their system by any white lie necessary.

fiffer86

@LordSock: Yeah, I am definitely stealing that from you.

@Eon:
He even specifically was talking about 3rd parties... what exclusive content from 3rd parties was he talking about? 6 weapons in AC2? Really? And the only way you can get them is to go with the whole Assassin's Creed: Crystal Chronicles bull crap of buying the game twice, buying two consoles and hooking them up?

Come back Dreamcast and your VMUs. I miss you.

Aprotosis

@LordSock:

With the word douche appearing so many times I wouldn't be surprised if ladies seeking hygienic products ended up here.

LanciePants

@Fyrinn:
Yamauchi was a dumbass and pretty much everyone knows it.
Square's departure from Nintendo was partly a matter of choice from Square but it was also influenced by Sony's massive pockets of money and promises to invest heavily on exclusive games while keeping Square third-party.
Today, when MS does that with, say, Rockstar (GTA DLC) it's "stupid", "douchey move", "MS only knows how to wave money in front of devs", etc.
Direct quotes from some narrow-minded gamers, btw.

@mellowspaz:
"I AM THE LIGHTNING..." = Facepalm IRL
Oh and the worst MGS character has to be one of the Cobras, Fatman or Colonel Volgin.

I felt let-down when Peace Walker was announced for PSP (which I own) rather than an HD console. But the more I think about it the more I think it was a good idea, it's still too soon to announce a full-blown HD sequel to MGS4.

I just hope there's no squad management in this one, just pure stealth.

@henri1kk: When did I ever say Sony has never been douchey? GOD DAMN PEOPLE STOP ACCUSING

@Sloopydrew:
..what? MS had Alan Wake, Forza 3 and.. uh.. did they have any more exclusives, really? Oh, yeah, Crackdown 2. Sony and Nintendo had far more exclusives than MS.

@NaeemTHM: Not when the events proceeding it are taken into account. Since most of the MG series were on PS, and the last one featuring the main character of the new one was in the last one, which was exclusive to PS3, i dont see how douchey it would be for it to be a PS3 exclusive. as a matter of fact, it would simply be assumed, most of the time.

@Kanji08:

That still wouldn't be possible because many of the IPs exclusive to Microsoft are owned by them. They just have others develop for them and they publish those titles which makes them first and perhaps 2nd party titles in some cases. Either way, I agree, it should be first-pary titles only. Spread the love!!!

@LordSock:

I don't think most 360 users would care. If anything if it was an exclusive it would of been a regional exclusive.

cippycup

@Etheris: So Sony SHOULD have MGS? Your argument works only if we accept that little morsel of strange logic. Sony is damn lucky it has MGS. They are not, however, entitled to it. Just the same, I'm for a one console future; less money on consoles, more on games.

"I think the difference between our approach in our press conference and our competitors' is that our focus is on exclusive content"

This year, but last year it was pure exclusiveness in gaming. (MGS4, LBP, GOW3, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Uncharted)
I think that Sony is now crying, cause they have lost the crown, and that hurts them...

abcFRAG

@Sonira - I am old news.: Oh dear...

_/\____/\____/\____/\__________________________________________

*camera cuts to raiden standing in front of Sonira's grave under the rain, a single leaf blows past*

@Lord_Hennessy: people are kinda obligated to say LIVE is better since they are paying for it. Either way, even if it is or isnt better, it has to be better because if i'm spending money for the same service that i could get for free, then the one i'm paying for takes priority, amirite? it doesnt have to be direct, to you, but subconsciously, money weaves of blanket of bias over your common sense.

so i will agree with you, just so i wont get flamed. theyre the same service, but LIVE is better.

I think i'm doing it right.

@Kanji08: Not entirely true, I'm sure you're exaggerating, but I'll bite.

Lionhead, Rare, Halo (since Bungie is no longer 1st party, but the Halo franchise is), Mistwalker (kinda)...

Those are all the big ones, and I do agree that Sony has more, but I'm sure either MS would buy more devs or really push the games from the ones they have now.

Pyro Jack Frost

@Fyrinn: This is correct. Nintendo fucked up their own relationship with Square when they dropped the CD peripheral that Sony was developing.

Imagine what a different world it would be if Nintendo hadn't terminated their partnership with Sony. We could be playing MGS4 on the Nintendony WiiStation right now.

Suzaku

There is no difference Dile and that was only one title. I expect he can eat his words than because I expect Final Fantasy 14 will be on the 360.

@Sloopydrew: really?I saw a lot more true exclusives on Sony's part than from microsoft

Ricardo Freitas

@Strangelove: You're missing the point here. It's really not an issue of Sony vs Microsoft - in fact, I really couldn't care less which platform the MGS series is on. It's just an issue of not changing horses midstream. If Kojima had picked the 360 for MGS4, and Rising was a 360 exclusive as well, I'd have no complaint at all, because I'd have a 360 already.

To put it another way... Making me buy one expensive console if I want to play MGS isn't especially douchey, but making me buy two is douchey.

MysteryPersonX

@Archaotic:
No one said that. Quit overreacting.
Sony did their share of evil stuff in the past and always got away with every single thing due to their status as a company.
To me, it's only fair that a new company gets to give Sony a reality slap.
Microsoft is bad, I do agree with that. But they're showing Sony that they can't just do whatever they want and get away with it.
The one thing that has been constant about the Sony PS users I've met my whole life is that when Sony does morally incorrect things, it's perfectly normal. When others do it, it's a douchey move.

@blahxkyou: I disagree, remember how awesome Raiden was in some/most of the final cut-scenes in MGS4.
I can't see a problem so long as they keep it like the end of MGS2, once you acquire the high-frequency blade, and the battle with Solidus. I think the problems will arise if they make it a typical hack 'n' slash.
I can sympathize though, another proper (console based) big-boss game would be awesome.

Perfectnumpty

Sony didn't just claim that the difference between them and their competitors was exclusive content did they? Something that has been a strong point for Microsoft for the past year and played a big role at last years E3 and a slightly smaller one this year. Confused? I am.

Eon

@Strangelove: Seeing as Rising is directly related to MGS4, it would be douchey to have it be a microsoft exclusive. "Sure, that doesn't not seem at all not couldn't ain't equal." wait, what?

LordSock

They should better not abandon Sony, the Metal Gear Fanbase has always been on Sony consoles, it would be a great mistake to anger these fans.

@Strangelove: I think they made petty good points so your post doesn't bring nothing up, it would be douchey I think it's obvious :/

Ricardo Freitas

"[T]he difference between our approach in our press conference and our competitors' is that our focus is on exclusive content,"

What the hell is he talking about? Both Microsoft and Nintendo had just as many exclusives as Sony -- if not more. Market speak drives me nuts.

@henri1kk: You really should have been pissed at both Square and Nintendo then, because Square decided to leave when they realized they could store more data on a CD, and Nintendo just kind of shrugged and told the world it didn't matter because RPGs are "silly and boring" and that RPG fans are just "depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games." Exact quotes from Nintendo president Hiroshi Yamauchi, by the way.

@Pyro Jack Frost: To add to this I also really hope game companies cut this 'timed exclusive' crap, either make it exclusive or not.

Pyro Jack Frost

@henri1kk: While sony has been commiting douche moves, so has every other company in the business and "out-douching" somebody will simply amount to more douchiness. Two douches don't make an awesome.

LordSock

@Masterpain22: so true, I actually loath this kinda marketing :/ but sony should try to fight this kind of approach, they simply ignore it, which is stupid imo.

Ricardo Freitas

@Riktor: I don't understand why not. There is no reason why MGS:R shouldn't be on the 360, just as there was no reason MGS4 wasn't.

Yes, exclusives are a good thing, it draws consumers to a system, but I think exclusives should be created only by first party devs. Third party devs have no reason why they shouldn't make their games multiplat, more money for them. The main reason why third party exclusives exists is because Sony/MS throw money at them.

The other is that 'it's much harder to develop a game for both systems' which I really don't believe. The only other reason I accept third party exclusives are for games developed by companies who aren't 'big' (Atlus, NISA, etc.) because they mainly cater towards niche audiences so they don't make as much profit. But companies like Konami, Capcom, etc. really have no reason to make exclusives.

Pyro Jack Frost

@Kracus: Most likley a timed exclusive just like FFXI, it won't happen for at least a year or two after the PS3 release. Every PS3 SKU has a hdd, a necessity for an MMO.

SE has their own portal for their MMO games called Play Online. How they will integrate that with Live is puzzling, or mountains of paper work and moneyz flying everywhere.

PsycheE

Maybe not fully abandoned, but it did abandon.. If I was at the MS press conference I would have yelled SELLOUT if had the chance

@Lord_Hennessy: need a friggin edit button.... paid not payed LoL I suck

Lord_Hennessy

@Saint Anima: I'm pretty sure Lightning Bolt Action game comes from the fact it is focused on the character Raiden.

I believe Raiden means something like Thunder and Lightning in Japanese.

@henri1kk: Yeah, they really deserve to have every single exclusive stolen from them and people constantly deriding their platform as totally pointless. Sure. Right.

Do yourself a favor and google "Microsoft antitrust". You'll learn a lot.

All three companies are evil. No one deserves to suffer any more than any other.

I am gonna laugh hard if it comes out this is no stealth game, and more shooter like the iphone version, or Ninja Daiden Raiden like..because Lightning Bolt Action, doesnt sound very stealth.. anyway, if its a real one, lets wait at least 3 Years before it hits shelfs.

tormenta3001

@themissing: I agree with you. However being that this is Peter Dille(hole) I will believe it when KONAMI announces this for the PS3, and not a second before hand. Because Mr. Hole has no idea if MS payed big money for the exclusive or not. He seems to be just guessing. I own all 3 systems. I am not a fanboy, but the gaming business is more crooked than any political campaign and dirtier than an un-washed pair of hooker's panties. A subject Peter Dille knows much about :P (I kid I kid)
ANYWAY... I would rather have it for my PS3, unless it has multi-player than I would get it for my 360, because just face it... LIVE is a better service.

Lord_Hennessy

@Indypunk:

So, just to clarify:

Microsoft exclusivity of an MGS game = douchey
Sony exclusivity of an MGS game = not douchey

Sure, that doesn't not seem at all not couldn't ain't equal.

Don't care what system it's on, just as long as it maintains the highest standards of quality synonymous with the series.

@Etheris:
Final Fantasy series taken from Nintendo by Sony.
You cannot expect to be as douchey as Sony was back then and then just prance around in your own superiority.
I know it's pretty fanboy-ish of me but I do love to see Sony losing its exclusives because I was there when Sony and their legion of minions just step over Nintendo destroying everything that stood in front of them.

@Ness: Correction:

Metal Gear: Ghost Babel and both Metal Gear AC!D games were directed by Shinta Nojiri, and Portable Ops was directed by Masahiro Yamamoto.

Suzaku

@Duane Llave: That's the only thing I'm a little worried about as far as sharing this game with 360 owners; Kojima limiting what he would have done if it was just on PS3 to meet size limitations. Most likely it won't affect the game at all, as MGS4 probably could have been done on a DVD with little noticeable loss in quality, but its something to think about.

@Ness: Snake's Revenge? Metal Gear NES? Metal Gear Acid 1 & 2? Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops? Metal Gear: Ghost Babel? Metal Gear Solid Mobile?

@Grave: It took me a couple attempts to get the hang of it (started it, stopped, started over 6 months later), but I did end up enjoying it quite a bit.
A lot of it was cooler in theory than in practice though, especially the whole recruitment/squad building thing. I'm definitely crossing my fingers for a more traditional MGS experience.

Tretton told Keighly the same thing yesterday, so yeah... not exactly excited since I still don't know what the hell this is.

@FatalChaos: It's okay, you didn't know.

@bobtheduck: Never! I do things half-assed or I don't do them. The latter is not an option.

LordSock

Good now that this is multi-platform I can comment on how retarded Raiden's character design is without sounding like a flamer. That is the most RETARDED character design in MGS history. Even the girly man Raiden from MGS2 is better than this Cyborg Pirate with a piece of cloth draping over his head.

mellowspaz

@Sonira - I am old news.: That explains your first comment to the post, my sincerest condolences.

FatalChaos

@Etheris: HELL YES!!! I've been saying that ever since I heard it was an exclusive for the 360. I've been playing Ace Combat on my playstation system since I can remember.

@Duane Llave: 360 Version Includes:

Disc 1: Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Disc 2: "Haha, we finally got MGS!": A History of Metal Gear on the 360

Disc 3: This disc was merely included to show how fucking rich we are, yeah!

Disc 4: 15 minute documentary of the moment Hideo Kojima agreed to develop MGSR for the 360.

Disc 5: A green X-shaped disc used to hurl at your PS3 owning enemies.

emwurst

Enh...kind of lost interest when I heard Peace Walker was the "true sequel" that Kojima and the MGS4 team are supervising, and Rising is just something he's distantly overseeing.

We will soon see in the Konami conference...

@Indypunk:
But a quick look through the book of videogame history shows us that Sony has 75% of all douchey moves ever made.
I think they deserve to be douched out. You can't expect to douche and not be douched right back, I always say.
So yeah, that and FF XIV *NOT* being PS3 exclusive (as it was oh so proudly announced in the Sony briefing) only seems fair.

@MaxDragon7: Smells like evil marketing to me. Smells effective.

@Kracus: It will most likely be a timed exclusive.

@Duane Llave:

Oh no, someone will have to get up and change a disc after five hours of gameplay. What has this planet come to?

Chase Lawrence

@Etheris: Uncompressed audio and dynamic mixing would be harder. You'd have to do it via a HD install on the 360. It appears MS is lifting their restrictions on installations so you are likely going to see far more HD installs for both systems. An aspect of big games for which 360 fanboys have been razing of the PS3 fanboys about.

kingmanic

@Etheris:
you miss understand, I don't mean PS3 quality will be better over Xbox360. I mean it will be a quality game on both systems.
If Rising is a single 9-10GB DVD on Xbox360, I don't think it would be what it could have been on PS3. (since Kojima already maxed out Bluray on PS3)

@Zekebaker: I was really expecting a port of MGS4 to be announced this year, the spinoff part really threw me. It kinda bugs me because I still have to tiptoe around spoilers for my non-PS3 owning friends. :P

i was surprised you couldnt play as raiden in mgs4, but now he gets his own game! im so excited!

@Wolf_Dog: Oh! It's a pulse sensor? I've totally had the wrong idea about which body part to use.

@Saint Anima:

I'm not worried, but I will say it's definitely not a real Metal Gear game.

I mean think of the name and the fact it stars Reideen. It's going to be a third person action game for sure. Something aiming to recreate MGS4's ninja cutscenes.

This would also explain why Kojima was so insistent on th ePSP game being a "true" Metal Gear, not a spin off or whatever.

So yeah, that's my guess. Peacewalker is the next MGS, as people think of it, while Rising will be an action oriented spin-off.

@bobtheduck: I like all the consoles and I'm a girl, so I guess I'm like cootie city. ):

@Wolf_Dog: Best comment of the day!

@Masterpain22: *To tell you the truth

Masterpain22

@IMarcus: Id like to think that kojima productions would be the last to rush a game and sacrifice quality

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: No, because you guys still have Halo.

Its always kinda been that way. But could you Imagine if Halo 4 were PS3 exclusive? Major douchey!

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: Because MGS hasn't been a 360 franchise, no, absolutely not. If Sony somehow got the rights to Gears of War and then made the 3rd entry a PS3 exclusive, now that would also be douchey. I don't see how this is so confusing to some people. Sharing is not a problem, but taking games away from others that should have them is.

@Communist_Gamer: To tell you the true I don't even understand how the speculation of this title being a 360 exclusive (timed or not) even came to be.

There was no word of that in the 360 conference, and we know they would have made a big deal announcing something like that if that were the case.

I think that this shows us that Microsoft can actually fool people by making them believe a multiplatform title is exclusive by just showing the game on their conference rather than concentrating on exclusive stuff, I'm surprised that people actually fell for it. I wonder how many clueless people also believe that The Beatles: Rock Band is also exclusive.

Masterpain22

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: How hard is it to understand? It's no douchey because all other MGS games are on PS consoles. Jesus.

@IMarcus: I'd prefer for Rising to be on one system. Doesn't matter which one to me as I have both systems. But I hate seeing articles comparing one game on two systems and starting a flamewar as to which one is better.

IMarcus

@MaxDragon7: "same day" seems pretty prompt to me.

@Ness: There were also the 2 NES Metal Gear Games. Yup...

@Duane Llave: Doubt it, it will prob be one disc for all of us. I highly doubt we will get anything in size like MGS4.

FatalChaos

@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: Now why would it mean that?

LordSock

@LordSock: Or with Sony's Eye based controller (which they dev'd initially in 2005 for the original eyetoy, then dropped)

@Wolf_Dog:
EXCEPT: Ninja Gaiden was the best game on Xbox (and Xbox owners opted for an easier game, Halo)
I still have spite towards Microsoft for not investing more into Team Ninja/Ninja Gaiden 2 (because it could've been a better franchise than Halo)
now Kojima is making a possibly Ninja Gaiden like game, I don't think Xbox360 owners disserve it.

@thedoorsdk: If Peace Walker is Kojima's focus right now, I hope it plays a bit better than Portable Ops. Finally getting to PO now and... I'm not so sure that I'm digging this.

@themissing: I'll play Devil's advocate. Exclusives are 10x better than cross-platform games. Cross-plat games are usually rushed and aren't given the attention to detail as some of the other exclusives.

IMarcus

@Zekebaker: Then Microsoft wouldn't have any exclusives. =|

Kanji08

@FatalChaos: Those would be Wii fans... Cooties die when you're about 13 and then come back when you turn 65, so...

@Wolf_Dog: why is there something pointy poking me in the leg?

@LordSock: Does that mean it's "douchey" that MGS4 is still an exclusive?

@LordSock: Jiar? You need to practice your lingual fun-poking, I think you're a bit off on this one.

@LordSock:
don't you mean メタルギアソリッド:ピースウォーカー
(metaru gia soriddo: piisu uookaa)

@LordSock: Well that's exactly why so many people were so worried. Douchey moves and Microsoft go hand-in-hand.

@Wolf_Dog: Oh no, not this again!
[kotaku.com]

Well, I might as well join in anyway. ^_^

@MysteryPersonX: And you wrote it more clearly than I did, :D

LordSock

@excel_excel: Sony are not very good on PR, doesn't really bother me since what I like is games but I actually loath the Microsoft marketing approach on the industry in my opinion is kinda ruining it :X

Ricardo Freitas

@blahxkyou: I'd like it next gen as well, but we have been waiting for a while already, so Peace Walker should come out sooner than later. Also, 'next-gen' = PS4, Xbox 720, Wii2. (All made up, but sounds 'next-gen like, :P)

Next-Gen currently in today's standard = 'Now-Gen'

Just to make everything clear, just in case.

@Ricardo Freitas: What the hell? wrong reply :x Group hug then!no?:x

Ricardo Freitas

@Riktor: If it was multidisc the only thing you could assume is that you would have to change discs for the 360 version, but not that the PS3 version will be better in any other way.

@Trailnutz: yet there will still be a troll somewhere to bitch about something. good for MGS and letting BOTH system owners play it. complainers exit now.

themissing

@NaeemTHM: Given that a fair number of people (me included) were compelled to buy a PS3 over a 360 because of MGS4, yes, I think making the subsequent game exclusive to the other console would have been pretty douchey. Not that it would have surprised me from Kojima.

Thankfully that's a moot point.

MysteryPersonX

@NaeemTHM: Well it would be less douchy, as I imagine that the events in mgs4 are related to those of mgs:rising. Seeing as MGS4 was ps3 exclusive, having rising be a 360 exclusive would be essentially saying "you wanna know more? get the 360"

LordSock

@Kracus: It's a console exclusive at launch, and Tretton said as much.

Lancehead

@excel_excel: Yeah, I wondered why Sony didn't feature MGS Rising during their press conference.

It was quite a big deal for MS during theirs, and it would've made sense for Sony to steal some of their thunder by showing it as well, sorta like saying, "So what? We've also got that game you were hyping so much during your conference!"

firefly

@Ness: No place for Hideo?

!

..I think he's still "producer", so it's a little hard to believe he'll be totally hands off. But yeah it seems like Peace Walker is the focus.

I guess he's saying that because the whole weapon-unlocking deal is so awesome. Now, will people do that on the PSP they have now or the one that is $80 more expensive that they can't play any of the UMDs they own on? Hmm....

Oh and Wolf_Dog....uncalled for. ha.

LetItRane

i still dont consider it official unless konami said it themselves :\

Kougeru Matsuoka

Just because FF XIV is on PC, doesn't mean it wasn't console exclusvie. People paid too much attention of the meaning of "exclusive".

@Kracus: not really :/

Ricardo Freitas

@Wolf_Dog: I heard 360 fans have cooties, is this true?

FatalChaos

I wonder if the 360 version will have multiple disks? If they want to make another game as massive in raw file size as MGS4, they're going to need at LEAST 5 DVD's unless they have some tricks up their sleeves - which they probably do.

@Sonira - I am old news.: Lol

Zing at the beginning of that last paragraph.
Still Sony should have gave a mention out to this so that the gaming websites would have been a little quieter yesterday. Hell forget. It's never quiet :(

@Michael Breese: ...And thus Kojima has moved on from making PS3 exclusives to making PSP exclusives, for they are harder to make multiplatform.

@excel_excel: Sony are not very good on PR, doesn't really bother me since what I like is games but I actually loath the Microsoft marketing approach on the industry in my opinion is kinda ruining it :X

Ricardo Freitas

@Chrinkster: HAAAHAAH! Good one! But seriously, Raiden's sword could be awesome to control with the wiimote, especially with the upcoming motionplus.

LordSock

@excel_excel:
I think Sony was too busy covering their butts with all the leaks.
they kept saying, "like you already didn't know" or "well at least this wasn't leaked".
Saying, "Metal Gear Solid Rising is coming to the PS3 also" would sound like, "We don't have enough good stuff to announce, so lets take something that Microsoft announced"

@LordSock: Like they did with Ace Combat. Damn you Microsoft!

@LordSock:

Would it be "un-douchey" if it was just a PS3 exclusive?

NaeemTHM

Kojima isnt playing a part in the making of this game, so i could care less. I'm more excited for Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker in which Kojima is heavily involved with.

XCha0s

Actually more excited for Peace Walker at this point. Maybe just because they actually showed a trailer with gameplay, idk. But 'Lightning Bolt Action' almost makes me think this is going to be an action game along the lines of Devil May Cry.
Not that that's a bad thing, of course.

Knew it. Can't wait for it. Raiden was fun to play as in MGS2 and I'm sure he will be again.

Excellent to hear. It is sad that Xbox owners never got to play MGS4. Exclusives really should be 1st party from here on out

Zekebaker

1 Blu-ray for PS3 owners and a voucher for a special download to demo for PSP Metal Gear game for PSP.

5 disc for 360 owners.

Duane Llave

Its also the first Metal Gear game with Kojima not in the director's chair.

Ness

lol funny cause the final fantasy game announced as an exclusive yesterday for sony is apparently not so exclusive afterall.

Kracus

Was expected.

Still, a little worried about this one. Lightning Bolt Action, the hell? And I hear that Kojima is not too involved with this one. All of his effort is going into Peace Walker.

Still, hoping for the best. Could be a great action game.

@Wolf_Dog: BUT I'M DYING

no surprises...but i am just glad i can play it on my 360

i wouldnt mind both the PSP main story games(Port ops and Peace walker)to eventually be available on the PS2,i am not to keen playing on PSP for long enough

Sweet!

It is multi-platform. But Sony were dumb enough to think that wasn't important to mention when Kojima was on stage. Not disregarding Peace Walker as it looks awesome, MS hardly have a non-discloure agreement with Konami over its exclusivity so as to why they didn't announce it.....dunno

what about FFXIV?
makes sense though, although... Kojima was Limited by a single bluray for MGS4, I don't think I want to play a Metal Gear game developed for PS3 and Xbox360, unless the 360 version turns out to be multidisc (then I know the PS3 quality will be better)

I just thought of something funny......

Imagine this came out on Wii....

Chrinkster

Thanks captain obvious!:D you have saved the internetz!!

Ricardo Freitas

No surprise, I remember reading someone from Konami state a very shore while ago that from now on there will be no more PS3 or 360 exclusives due to the cost of development.

Michael Breese

@blahxkyou: Don't you mean Metaru Jiar Soridu: Pisswalka

LordSock

Weapon unlocking functionality between PS3 and PSP huh? Sounds interesting.

Group hug everyoone!

Yes, that's right sony and 360 fanboy group hug!

...

Except you there, get the fuck out with your pulse sensor thingy

@Communist_Gamer: Keyword: 'Promptly'

Lightening Bolt ACTIONNNNNN!!!!
lawls, I actually would love MGS: Peace Walker to be next gen instead. Or at least a DLC game on PSN, cuz despite how much I like my PSP, my PS3 needs more games and glory.

YOU KNOW IT HIDEO. I'm demanding ZOE3!!

blahxkyou

Whew, that's a relief. It would've been a douchey move to have it just 360 exclusive.

LordSock

Well, duh.

Awesome. Everyone's Happy.

@BizarroVapor: I have 12 ps3 games and none of them as pretty much scored less than a 9 in ign for example :/

Ricardo Freitas

@Sloopydrew:
I'm sorry but left4dead 2, mass effect 2 and splinter cell are not exclusive to the xbox they will be on the pc as well.
-Last Guardian (beats everything showed by Microsoft, I don't want for this to sound fanboyish is just that I love with a passion every team Ico game :x)
-God of War 3
-Uncharted 2
-Gran Turismo 5
-Mag
-Heavy Rain
-Ratchet and Clank
-little big racer or somethin :p
-Fat Princess

9 against 7, also I think in terms of quality is impossible to deny which is the best line up, I do think splinter cell was pretty awesome but I will get it for the pc so..:/

and I'm actually willing to consider joy ride as a true game:x

Ricardo Freitas

@Trailnutz:

I agree....everyone's happy. Except me.....I mean WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY 360 or PS3?! (brain explodes)

YAY Now everyone is happy!