British Lifetime Console Sales Figures Get!

I see sales figures like that for the PSP and it baffles me how it's now doing so well in Japan.

@Karlott: And you know how I know YOURE gay? Cos you know what the fuck that is..

You think this looks bad you should see how horribly crushed Sony is in the US...

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@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: I've seen forum post about it that were almost that long

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@WoundedBum: I don't want to get technical or anything... but do you see the short sightedness of your statement?

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@Refused: At least in the US you can live in Canada without losing all your rights... it's called living in Maine or Alaska

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I HATE YOU XBOX FANS, WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO SONY!!!
RAAAGGGHHH!

Balram Shanker Trivedi

@RyuuzakiBjorn: Every single Gamestation I've ever been in has had at least one member of staff who is a complete and utter douche.

I much prefer GAME. And I know others who do too.

And besides, as has been said before, GAME owns Gamestation. They bought the chain from Blockbusters about two years ago.

Luke Michael Timothy

@pneboy: Well since i can`t even fathom paying to be online TWICE(ISP + LIVE) all i want is an xb360 arcade without wifi or drive or whatever other crap they have.
Now between a PS3 and an Arcade which one do you think i'll chose ? BOTH, but only because the Arcade is so damn cheap and i`m tired of waiting for Gears of War 2 for PC :P

@hot_heart: You know how I know you guys are gay? You're about to do the Double Dutch Rudder.

@lucasreis - I want a twitter-less world...: Damnit man, don`t contradict, you heard the man, now stop trying to emulate humans and be a family/social club/bar/weird gym !

@WoundedBum: Awwww, don`t diss fanboys, they are totaly entertaining. Don't tell me you never just stood in front of kotaku reading some Sony/MS/Nintendo dedicated thread and felt massively good about yourself, compared to the console wars crusaders.

FIGHT ON CRUSADERS, FIGHT ON !

@Zunnoab:The annoying thing is that I'm sure backwards compatibility will return to the PS3, but it's going to be sold to people instead of made free.

@NeoAkira: Yeah, maybe, but at this point i still don`t get how relationships can work if all the 2 parties involved do is deny the wishes of the other 0_0.
Yeah yeah i know you guys are probably kidding but i know one case where that is the actual truth. The guy is actually denied access to buying what he wants unless wife gives the OK. I can understand on a house, a car, a boat or something like that but computers and consoles ?! come on.

@J4cK 0f He4rt5:

Trust me, you don't. it's such a hassle dealing with the enormous penis they require. All that chafing, having to buy specially designed chairs with an "El Grande Ballsac" hole cut out so you can fit . . . it's annoying. And expensive.

hopefully "just kidding" is obvious . . .

busboy33

@Hand_O_Death: lol i can't say exactly as it's an approximation really. The PS3 might have sold a few thousand/hundred more or a few thousand/hundred less.
It's pretty much on an even track as per those figures and probably all those rumours of a price cut might happen and keep that steady but who knows.

@Scott J: It doesn't have generally better hardware. The complicated architecture makes it more expensive to develop equivalent games to the Xbox 360 and it also suffers from a slow Blu-ray drive. Additionally, the Xbox 360 has a superior GPU and has one block of 512MB RAM rather than two separate 256MB units like the PS3.

On paper the PS3 may look more powerful, and when lots of funding is thrown at a game it probably is, but the PS3 does not have an obvious hardware advantage, and due to its shortcomings it's far closer to a tie in power than the PS3 being the clear winner.

That said, if Sony drops the price and brings back PS2 backward compatibility, it may get my interest. If not, I may just outright skip the PS3.

Zunnoab

@J4cK 0f He4rt5: I don't hate the UK, but most of it sucks, i'd much prefer to have grown up in the USA.

@TearsandScreams: That has to be a troll post. At least, I hope so.

Zunnoab

@TearsandScreams: That's still not evidence that a huge portion of people pirate. While piracy is a problem, I'm sure the vast majority of people legally buy their games. The countries where piracy is rampant often have official prices of like $150+ per game.

Zunnoab

@adinnieken: That kind of thinking is what got Sony into this mess to begin with. They did not keep their designs for the PS3 sane price wise, expected people to save up for the brand name alone, and dropped to number three because of it.

Zunnoab

@Mister Adequate: I'm hoping this has taught Sony a big lesson in the arrogance department. If they didn't learn it when they allowed Apple to take over the portable music industry from them after dominating so long with the Walkman and Discman, maybe their arrogance of "oh they'll save up for the almighty PS3" losing them their market leader position will have taught them.

To think that when the Xbox was announced I was terrified of Microsoft getting its grubby hands into the console industry. I feel a fool to see that Microsoft has done a better job than Sony this time around. Sony may not have failed with the PS3, but it was taught an important lesson in being humble in my opinion. Sony's attitude with the PS3 launch reminds me of the Daikatana advertising.

Zunnoab

@Xebu: The fact is the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, and the Xbox was more powerful than the Gamecube, and the Wii is more powerful than the Xbox, twice as powerful as the Gamecube, and multiple times more powerful than the PS2.

It may not be on the level of power as the Xbox 360 or PS3, but it is certainly not "last gen."

Zunnoab

@Cedryc Noumsi: Why don't you try other games? Shelling out £300 plus for any single entertainment experience is a bit silly.
@V1L3: Yeh, awesome games is ONE OF the factors.

@NecronomiconUK: I'd definitely agree with that, and I hope Sony find a way to cut the price soon.

@Supa_S: Lol

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): I did give them money for a good product at a price I was willing to pay, the extra effort was just a plus!

@fanboyish: Yeh I'm angry at them too for how they STARTED this gen, but I was talking about the past 'COUPLE' of years. That means 'TWO' years. And their efforst to me have now allowed them to surpass their competitors in terms of quality, if not quantity.

@bradmickiewicz01: It is when it's the biggest selling racing series of all time, the biggest selling Sony exclusive of all time, and the and one of the biggest selling games series EVER.

@[twitter.com]: Read above.
Phew.

@WhatTheFrag: If the 360 is at 3.9 and made 1.7 this year and the PS3 is at 2.2 this year and came out 1 year later. wouldn't that put them EXACTLY on the same track?

@Xebu:Sorry, your dislike does not make a console of this gen irrelvant. Your view can be stated as having a 'go' at the Wii, you just have a slightly more respectful way of doing it.

The Wii is a current gen system and is in the lead. Deal with it, ignore it, but stop crying about it.

@Scott J:RROD is covered and all 360's have a warranty, so just how have you spent double the cost of a PS3 paying for repairs? Something is afoot.

@J4cK 0f He4rt5: I hate hate the UK, and am British but I wouldn't want to be an American either.

Maybe Canadian or something haha.

well ps3 and psp gonna explode later this year and next year with best exclusives,dont see anything interesting on x360 side,well couple games maybe.but all depends what games you like.sony gonna get very good new original games.and GT know that you can play one GT game for years

scalman

well few good games worth more then ton of shity games.and if you like best quality movies,ps3 is best choice.price was ok before,and after pirce cut ant slim appears,its be almost for free.you must think what you get for ps3 price,and what you get for x36o price.

scalman

@Scott J: ^ when someone throws in the "better games" excuse, crebility gone

@adinnieken: wanna pit that against the wii or ds alone? your point = flawed. or my inability to detect sarcasm here.

@ThursdayNext: uh read again? psp sales were down. 5.5 units each would be impressive. 5.5 grouped, not so; it's the cucumber in the pants gimmick.

@Titch007uk: everytime someone messages me about the ps3's price I'm always confused and certain there's a typo. then i remeber that it's actually $399

Uh ,the PS3 was released one year and a half later in the UK compared to the 360.

Interesting thing is the sales for the last 6 months .......its surprising Kotaku hasnt delved into that.Or is it?

Iberianpower

@( shake cows, win a ) Milkshake!: what's this "effort"?

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: Completely and utterly agree

@pneboy:

Oh god, another one of those, lol.

Yes, we've determined PS3 has blu-ray, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone wants it.

@edhe (xbl): These replies were really not what I expected. Thanks, guys!

@Xebu:

A little guilty of being a fanboy too with 2 360s.

@V1L3:

Maybe when you get married you'll understand.

@Pombar: I wasn't having a go at the Wii, just saying that I don't think the console itself is much of a step up from it's predecessor other than the control system and thus when the other platforms release revolutionary new control systems will they be granted a generation notch as well?

As for snobbery I've had all of the current gen platforms. I play the PSP way more than the DS and the 360 more than the PS3 but my Wii has passed on. Not because of it's power (although for the record it did look crap on a 44" telly), but because I didn't like the wooly controls (which may now be okay thanks to Wii Motion Plus) and I didn't enjoy playing any of the games anywhere near as much as those on it's rivals.

The fact that it's sold millions is irrelevant, Celine Dion has sold millions of records but I'm sure as hell not buying any of those.

Oh, and I agree on the PS2. Either way you look at it, old console with new controller (eye toy, guitars, etc... (dance mats don't count they're older)) or currently sold and supported it should be included with current gen.

Xebu

@KesMonkey: lol forget voice chat you can play it on your turbografx and dreamcast too :P.

@J4cK 0f He4rt5: TREASON!

Kafeen

@XForce: Go to monoprice.com!

Cat5e - 25ft = $2.55, 50ft = 4.43, 100ft = $8.01

thatcreepyguy

@bradmickiewicz01:

well i bought a ps3 recently just for one game(Kill2)i am now stuck with both systems (360 and ps3) and came to realise that, paying £300 just to play one game with no campaign co-op was crazy yo. well at least i get to play Mgs4 whislt waiting for Conviction

Cedryc Noumsi

@sentroshi: I have had the RROD problem with my 360, but MS customer support has been superb.

I've heard of others saying they had bad customer support, but replacing my 360 was one of the easiest things I've ever done.

thatcreepyguy

The ONLY thing holding PS3 back right now is the price. Its already the more reliable console, has the better hardware, best exclusives, most future potential. Its the price. Drop that price Sony and you are good to go.

Ive already spent double the cost of my PS3 on getting my 360 repaired alone.

Scott J

@lucasreis - I want a twitter-less world...:

If they release the slim one.. and make the fat one cheaper.. i'd get the fat one.

@dd528: i 100% agree with u. altho i did buy a 360. and i now know the saying 'u get what u pay for' the more u pay, the better the product will be (obviously)

@GunFlame: I hate the UK, and am British. I'd like to be an American.

@V1L3: Price my friend... price. The most important thing. Price. More money in your pocket kind of price. Catfish?

@Muppsatan: Let's agree that they're beyond that when they started caressing penises :|

@metallicorphan: I'd have thought it's total sales. If it's 24 million consoles just purchased through Game then that's even more impressive.

Xebu

@dd528:The biggest downfall of Sony's "Ten year lifespan" plan is that the market adoption of the system and software sales compared to it's rivals is the deciding factor. Those are not factors that can controlled with ease even in the best of times.

@walls99: It's only really sad if you have a lot invested in other people's taste in games. As long as Sony make enough money to keep the Playstation afloat, I don't really care what my neighbour/postman/bus driver is playing on his Wii. As long as I get my PixelJunk, I'm happy :)

dd528

@V1L3: for me the exclusives on the ps2 didn't matter. i saw what the xbox and gamecube had to offer as better than the ps2's games. Also i was a raging fan boy.

SwindleUK

@Mister Adequate: For he's a jolly good fellow!

dd528

@TearsandScreams: Exactly. I think the real test of the PS3 will be in a year or two, when the price does start to come down, and maybe a few more big exclusives make it out the door. Then we might begin to see whether this 10-year lifespan thing is all hype, or whether people really will continue to buy PS3s even if MS and Nintendo both have new consoles due to come out. The experience of the PS2 suggests it might work out for Sony, but then again, the PS2 might well be a one-off.

But I already saved up my pennies and bought a PS3. And having bought it, I'm glad I went for that rather than a 360. Largely because of Sony's attitude towards more progressive games (Flower, Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, etc.), and also because of the hardware failure issues I've seen friends go though with their 360s. After I had major disc read error problems last-gen, I'm really pleased that Sony seems to have got the reliability issue sorted out this time round. My PS3's been as reliable as my GameCube was, and that is about the biggest compliment I can pay to Sony.

dd528

@Mister Adequate: 5.5 million units sold. Yup. That sucks. Sucks hard.

ThursdayNext

@V1L3:The PS2 had a perfect storm going for it which no one will ever see again.

1-Sega was weakened from years of customer and retailer abuse, so when the PS2 was announced, people shifted focus over to it. My EB Games had 150 Dreamcasts traded in six -months- before launch because people wanted to have money down on the PS2. We didn't have shipment numbers or anything other then a idea of price, but it didn't matter. Remember, people were coming off of anywhere from 3 to 5 years of great PSOne gaming and with all of the promises of the PS2, it was a nobrainer.

2-Nintendo was in freefall, suffering the effects of getting hit by the Sony train, along with after effects of going with carts, keeping their foot on the neck of developers.

3-DVD. The PS2 was for a lot of people, myself included, our first DVD player. It was around this time you started to see video game stores carry anime and the anime on DVD market really took off (Remember those red and white "Playstation 2 supported" stickers on various DVD's?) The meh launch titles and delays didn't matter, because we could not only play all of our old titles on it, but we could watch DVD's also and listen to music? The selling points for the PS2 was massive.

4.Backwards compatibility. See above.

The PS2 had so much going for it that even the missteps early on. (Crappy launch, massive DRE issues that only finally were taken care of almost two years after launch) that nothing could slow it down and Microsoft and Nintendo spent that gen fighting over 2nd place.

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):What did make the PS2 so popular? I seem to recall it being A) the largest 3rd party support, and B) the largest number of exclusive games.

Out of the 3 current-gen consoles on the market, not one of them can boast both. 360 and PS3 exclusives are pretty much on par, whilst the Wii has the largest number of 3rd party exclusives, but the vast majority suck.

V1L3

@V1L3:Some folks don't like sleeping on the couch..or curb, or in the dog house.

@edhe (xbl):By "wife test" you mean "whipped test," right?

Because you all seem to pass with flying colours.

Hand in your man-cards on the way out.

And by "man-cards," I of course mean "testicles."

V1L3

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under):I think by "effort" he means "awesome games."

I'm more than happy to give my money to a company for "awesome games." In fact, that's the only reason I'd give a company that makes video games money.

V1L3

@kretinite:When will braintrusts on the internet realize that their opinion matters dick all when it comes to the real market? As a side note, it's good to see you acting as a snot-nosed elitist who talks a good game, but when time comes to play, well..

@kretinite: Honestly I still can't understand how people can think like this. There's a ton of good stuff on EVERY console this gen, and anyone who can't find a fair sized library worth playing is being fairly ignorant.

@Fede17: Go into any piracy post on here, and you'll see that a hell of a lot of people do it on here as well. And not all of them Europeans *shakes head harder*

@ReignFury:You could write a 10,000 word thesis on what they did.

When will the general gaming populace realise that the wii is a frilly pair of your mum's panties? As a side note its encouraging to see the PS3 is still rather exclusive and so deserving of the superior amongst us(one doesn't mention the 360 in polite circles).

kretinite

@Xebu:It's current gen. Stop moving goalposts to try and advance whatever point your making.

@adinnieken:Don't start that 'Playstation/Microsoft/Nintendo' brand spin. It's flawed and does nothing to advance your points.

And there is no WII brand, it would be the Nintendo brand, Goalpost moving much?

Well, Europeans like their easily hacked consoles (360) so that they can play their pirated games. At least Italians do. Countless friends there who do that shit. *shakes head*

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): Tretton is Swedish for 13

@sentroshi: I think the problem is, most people really only need one or the other, there's so much crossover this gen that the 'exclusives' are becoming obsolete, and for every exclusive, there seems to be a counter of sorts (MGS = Splinter Cell, Forza = GT etc). Either way, I can't see anyone logically being disheartened at the amount of games available to them whatever console they choose. But ponying up for another one is another story entirely.

You folks are looking at this at all incorrectly. Sony is beating the shit out of Microsoft! The life-time sales of the PlayStation brand for this generation clearly beat the Xbox brand with 5.5 million in sales. The PlayStation brand even has beaten the Wii brand.

Granted, in the month to month sales figures, the PlayStation brand is down, but that's just an anomaly.

It's not the individual game systems that count, it's the brand!

adinnieken

@WoundedBum:

Agreed.

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): But... that would be gay?

@bradmickiewicz01: Very few people have the luxury of their modem/router being near enough their 360. And a lengthy ethernet cable isn't that cheap either.

XForce

@WoundedBum: I enjoy it too, it´s funny seeing the fanboys clashing over pieces of plastic! hehehe. But yeah, I agree with everything you said so far.

@Liquiiiid: Same here in Surrey.

ThursdayNext

@Mister Adequate: Beat you by a minute ;-p

Xebu

@Xebu: Current generation is not dependent on the quality/strength/power of the hardware, it's dependent on it being the current console of a games company, and games still being made for it. Personally, I think the PS2 should be on the charts too, but hey.
Snobbery because it's not powerful enough is something I thought died out when we saw the Wii sell millions more than the pumped up competition.

@pneboy: yo don't have to buy an online adapter to play xbox online dude ever heard of direct connect

bradmickiewicz01

@GunFlame: Almost every member of my family has a DS-lite, they easy birthday/crimmy presents...I don't know any of them that still use it though.

I've managed to get rid of my Wii and only have 1 PS3 with very few games, but I've got 2 360's both alive and kicking in different rooms.

I'd say I'm guilty of artificially inflating the figures.

Xebu

@Machzy: Erm...I don't get your point. He's comparing information from two sets... Lifetime Sales of PS3 versus 12 month Sales of Wii. As these are not side by side it may not be immediately obvious.

One would normally expect the lifetime sales of any console to be higher than the one year sales of any other but not in this case. It serves to highlight the vast gap between Wii and PS3 sales.

ThursdayNext

@lucasreis - I want a twitter-less world...: Hooray for the Saturn!

@ReignFury: its priced to high so most people cant afford it or dont want to pay so much for something that offers to little

bradmickiewicz01

@ReignFury: "The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline."

@RyuuzakiBjorn: GAME owns GameStation :p

@RyuuzakiBjorn: How'd you figure that. Game bought GameStation.

Xebu

Wow, that's more 360s than I thought. Pretty cool. Sucks to be Sony though.

@Flawless101: In my case my investment in the PS3 is fine, but I can't see my self getting a xbox 360 with a few awesome exclusive titles, but most of the 360 titles I can get on PC.

... I'm also turned off by RROD, and customer support. :'(

@( shake cows, win a ) Milkshake!: one racing game is not gonna bring the PS3 back on track

bradmickiewicz01

@Makeda: I here you but that's not good for Sony either. If the PS2 is proof of anything is that the bleed-over into gaming for people who buy it for non-gaming reasons is not significant. Ultimately it may feed into their bluray strategy but is it benefiting the PS3 as a platform? Probably not.

@ShadowOdin isn't american: i don't get it what do you mean

bradmickiewicz01

@Makeda: I agree with you, but the headline on that reads a lot better.

PS3 + Game + Game + Remote = £300

Xbox = £140

I'm just talking about the base price of the base model (not counting arcade)

If you're looking for bargains there are loads to be had but that's the point, "Consumers" are lazy and while we dedicated few are able to weigh the respective pros and cons of a system Consumers will make a purchase based on whatever is shoved down their sad bovine throats.

ThursdayNext

Still baffles me that the Wii is considered "current generation", it's a Gamecube in a tweaked box with a new controller.

By whatever logic allows the Wii to be classed current generation then the 360 and PS3 should probably get "next generation" status as soon as Natal and the PS3 wands turn up...especially so if they coincide with some slimline models.

Xebu

@( shake cows, win a ) Milkshake!:
I have to disagree with you here.
Sony led the past two gens and they started this one with an arrogant attitude, thinking that their competitors couldn't offer better products. Their only effort has been trying to keep up with the consoles they belittled at the beginning of this generation.

@lucasreis - I want a twitter-less world...: But, how funny would it be if Jack Thompson really was CEO of Microsoft ??

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): True, but the added bonus of throwing in a HD movie is a great way to attract people who aren't totally avid gamers and might want to use the system for more than its primary purpose.

At first I didn't really care to much about the rest of the things the console could do, but my bluray collection is getting near my games collection, plus the up scaling has made me still want to buy DVD's and those combined far outweigh my games

@Titch007uk: My wife might go for it if the price wasn't so damn high, but man - that sticker shock is a killer.

wonder6oy

@RyuuzakiBjorn: What? GAME is the dominant gameshop where I'm from (Norn Iron).

Liquiiiid

@lucasreis - I want a twitter-less world...: Thanks guys :)

I mean surely if the console that you're arguing for is SO good...why don't you play it instead of arguing about it? That's what always gets me. Although I have to say I do sometimes enjoy reading some blind fanboyism.

Hey sony, release that ugly version of the PS3, the slim one, with a lower price, and I´ll get it!

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): You guys are wrong! It´s Reggie Fills Aime!

@walls99: Oooo, good point....you know what's also a good point?

DS sales > Wii sales > Xbox 360 sales > PSP sales > PS3 sales

I betcha y'didn't notice that one either! =P

But seriously, I didn't notice what you said. Good job. =)

@WoundedBum: Hello, voice of wisdom! I wish everybody would have your thoughts!

@Makeda: The only thing is that the competition also has bundles.

@GreatStalin: Poor Saturn... at least I have one! :D

@pneboy: Hey, I didn´t know I wasn´t a person. lol

@ThursdayNext: However, around xmas you could buy for £300 a PS3 /w a Movie, remote and two games at HMV. It was that bundle that convinced me to get the system as by itself that would have cost a bomb.

Dont get me wrong, Sony still need a price drop to potentially get back the market share from the 360 but one thing customers also take kindly to is bundle deals. Plus, with the hilarious PSPGo price tag the PS3 will seem like a steal :P

GAME isn't very popular compared to GAMESTATION in the UK though... 0.o

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