Get Some Russian In Your Independence Day

@sentroshi: It's a different breed of game. Starcraft is all about the micro, micro, micro. Starting builds, drone scouting. Most RTS conventions come from there. Zerg rush, etc. Those tactics sometimes do apply in Men of War... but it's like comparing a software plane simulator to the plane simulators that the army uses.

I mean, in Men of War, if you don't bloody memorize the armor penetration rates / armor values of every single side of every single tank, armor slope values, ammunition types, etc etc etc, you're gonna get your ass handed to you online. And it will be served so hard that you will cry.

That's why I said it isn't for those new to RTSes... because it's the hardcore of the hardcore.

Singleplayer is newbie friendly though. Somewhat...

Rise of series is interesting. But it's not one of my favorites. It's not a bad game by any means and if you want, you should give it a go.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Tits.

@umiman: Are you a Starcraft or Starcraft II fan? I'm not much of an RTS fannatic, but I'd like your opinion. Oh, and what about the Rise of "..." series? My brothers go oogles over it.

@umiman: Yeah, this game really builds on Faces of War. In a time when many RTSes were totally ignoring something as simple as group formations, Faces of War modelled vehicles and weapons to the point of excess. In what other game can you destroy an enemy vehicle on the opposite side of the block by comandeering a tank with a heavy gun and firing an AP shell right through the buildings in between?

Desi Quintans

@BigBadHarv: Yup!

@Strom Thurmond: you almost had me till i...googled red scare LOL. Im so guillable

yamato

@Strom Thurmond:
What was that nazi zombie movie called?
EINS. ZWEI. DIE! or something?

@Zunnoab: I would say that there is a difference between a love of the area you were bought up in and a love of your country. If you look at patriotism on a wider scale, it, like religeon, can be a potent tool for controlling the masses. Sometimes it seems to me that people revell in patriotism for it's own sake. I'm not sure it helps more than it hinders.

Nevertheless, it was interesting to read your opinions, and I agree that as time goes on we will start entertaining the idea of a worldwide commonwealth.

Gundragon

@Scotland: +1 simply because I love Scotland, and I love Scotland just because I'm not Scottish at all, but I'm descended from Scots......

Plus, any country where a guy wearing a skirt (Kilts, I know, are slightly different and tons more masculine.) could bash your face in with a log pole from 30 yards/meters away if you even thought about laughing at him or calling him gay automatically deserves infinite awesome points.

acidcrownie: Master of parenthetical expressions.

Patriotism helps people care about their home. If no one had any patriotism, be it for their country or love of their home state/province/city, everyone would just move where the best opportunities are and let less fortunate communities languish and die out. Patriotism helps keep diversity alive, I think. Patriotism is also a way of celebrating history, though I agree that has a danger of devolving into ultra-nationalism it helps keep the feeling of being united alive.

In the end, I do hope the world or at least most of the world feels united down the road. I doubt countries will go away, but I hope the idea of world community becomes common sense down the line. We have a long way to go, with influential people like Newt Gingrich attacking the notion of being a citizen of the world though.

Zunnoab

@Zunnoab: You make some good points. In your opinion, would there any disadvantages if patriotism did not exist?

The way I see it, as we gradualy become a more connected global community, exclusive things such as patriotism acts as a barrier towards understanding other cultures. We should be celebrating political and social ideas rather than lines on a map or symbols on a flag.

Gundragon

@Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet Kotaku: Holy shit your the guy they were talking about.

@Scotland: Anglophilia - An Anglophile is a person who is fond of English culture and England in general.
St George's day = appropriate for Anglophiles (but not for Britain)

Scotland

@StoneLazerkill:

wait for it...

@Thomas Henry Ward: St George's Day?

Scotland

@patapon: Im still waiting

Masonvrocks

@Gundragon: No patriotism is important. Ultra-nationalism confused with patriotism is the thing that is dangerous. Ultra-nationalists just tend to blend the two terms together and accuse people who aren't fanatical ultra-nationalists as being unpatriotic.

I'm proud of the USA, and part of that patriotism is celebrating my country's accomplishments while acknowledging its mistakes. I embrace the idea of a world community, but at the same time that doesn't mean I can't be proud of my country. The pride just has to stay at sane levels, without getting into the hypocrisy of criticizing the UN "meddling" with US policy for example by saying *gasp* torture is wrong and then turning around and wanting to say the USA has the right to meddle in the policy of the rest of the countries in the world.

Being patriotic in saying the USA can help lead the world while acknowledging we aren't perfect and aren't the only great country is fine and in my opinion important. That's not the same thing as the wackos that say acknowledgment or apologizing for any of our country's huge mistakes isn't patriotic.

You'll find that the biggest difference between patriotism and ultra-nationalism is ultra-nationalists tend to think of saying sorry or admitting to a mistake is unpatriotic, while patriotic people are very proud of their country but don't claim the country is infallible.

Zunnoab

@acidcrownie: Master of parenthetical expressions.: Nothing, that's the point. The British should get another holiday which is like Independence Day. You know, for Jingoistic Anglophiles like myself.

Thomas Henry Ward

Jokes aside, this game is really good. I've played practically every single major RTS to date and as an RTS fanatic, I'll say this is the pinnacle that every other RTS tries to be.

Do not attempt this game if you can't play RTS. Do not attempt this game if you can't micromanage. For everyone else, this is the RTS dream.

Hundreds of unique vehicles for all sides (so much so that after playing this game, I walked into a model store and could identify every single tank, truck, and motorcycle without looking at the names). Every single bloody unit, barrel, car, etc. has its own customizable inventory. True, 100% physics-based damage detection and environmental destruction. Destroy anything and level everything.

The only problem with it is that the voice acting is one of the worst you will ever hear.

@Thomas Henry Ward: By "invented" do you mean you gave us a reason to start a revolution and declare independence? :-P

No, but really, pardon my ignorance. What's the British equivalent of Independence Day?

acidcrownie: Master of parenthetical expressions.

@Strom Thurmond: tis actually a good zombie flick name...

@Thomas Henry Ward: Don't worry buddy. You'll win the next war between the Crown and the Colonies.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I just watched that movie last weekend. It was painful. Totally ruined the fond memories I had of seeing it in theater as a kid and being blown away =(

Ganglor

Patriotism is dangerous and unnecessary. Still, I hope everyone has fun over the weekend. Should be a good one :)

Gundragon

@Thomas Henry Ward: Don't be a wanker.

@excel_excel: In Soviet Russia excel... excels... you... oh screw it you win.

@patapon: (ominous music) They thought the Soviets were dead. They thought wrong. (hard cut to a very short shot of a zombie shambling through the Kremlin) This summer.... (cue montage reel of zombie Stalin fighting soldiers in the streets) BLOOD (a quick cut to Lenin eating brains) RUNS (a group of people running out of the Kremlin) RED. From acclaimed director George A. Romero comes.... RED SCARE.

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: IN SOVIET RUSSIA METS ARE FAN OT YOU!

We British basically "invented" this whole holiday anyway. Why don't we celebrate it?

Huh, enjoy your crummy holiday.

Thomas Henry Ward

Don't recall seeing Romanians in a WW2 game before...and I think he's just offline, he'll show up eventually.

@excel_excel: In Soviet Russia, KAYCE DAMNS YOU! :D

(gets rammed by mig)

So its an RTS? Wow. Looks as good as some FPSes!

KaneTaker

@excel_excel: In Soviet Union blog reads you!

@Northern Cat: In Soviet Russia comment types you!

@bakagaijin: K-K-K Kayce BREAKER!!!

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: And it's 4 relz this time

RED SCARE FTW!!! >:D

@CustomFirmware: Shhh. I hear him coming. Quick! Hide!

In Soviet Russia, games...expand...you? Damnit...

@CustomFirmware: Wait for it... !

Vorpal

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Did you see that preview of 2012? From the same guy who made Independence Day. Looks freaking crazy.

I saw that preview in Home I might add...

@Strom Thurmond: Wait for it....

Both my grandfathers and tons of my fathers friends where all Black Jackets. They all have the marine tattoo on their hands as part of the call to duty. I personally own a "black jacket" that my great grandfather passed down to me...

SO YES
I will celebrate my independence for the The british and alines and soviets.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I liked that movie!! Basically because it inspired that awesome level in Lylat Wars/Starfox 64!

In Soviet Russia.....er.....DAMN IT KAYCE

I expected a sequel to Independence Day...

That movie was the tits!

@BigBadHarv: I'll see you in hell Commie!!! Quick someone call Joe McCarthy!

@StoneLazerkill: Wait for it....

Where's Komrade Kayce when you need him?!

Soviet national anthem > American national anthem

...just sayin'.

@umiman: Thanks for the info mate. Sounds like I shouldn't buy it. xd