How Dead Space Extraction Controls On Wii, With Side-Shooting Twist

Looks quite good! I was expecting it to be crap but I might end up getting this game.

haseoreo

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Baseball nerd: Then you're a fool.

Jennacide

@clammy: "i've played the original 360 version, and apart from the anti-grav sections which take up 0.001% of the game, you're pretty much stuck on rails anyhow (going down fixed paths, very little exploring)"

As Frylock would elequently put it: "No, no, no, not in a million, hell no.

The first Dead Space was as much of a "rail shooter" as every game to come out in the past two console generations, particularly: the Halo series, GoW1/2, Killzone 2, and even Bioschock. Which is to say, they aren't "rail shooters" at all.

That's just a panzy ass excuse to make the fact that the Wii couldn't handle the processing load of a fully realized 3 dimensional space for this game. Which, at the core, is the real shame about this game.

It's either a rail shooter, or it isn't. This is, other games aren't.

illiniphase4

@loempiavreter: I have a feeling this will be the most advanced and most awsome light gun game ever. At least they've got tons of other things to do than just pointing and shooting. I hate rail-gun games in general because they're too boring/easy.

I lol'd when he said they didn't want to have nonsensical wiimote waving and then it shows a shot of two guys playing the game and waving their wiimotes nonsensically.

@loempiavreter: I'm not dogging rail shooters outright... some can be quite fun.

But the fact remains that technology had broken us out of the rail-road tracks mode of great-graphics gaming, and I don't think that we should honestly ever see a rail shooter again.

The worst point working against this game is the fact that what was a truly eerie experience, with legitimate scariness from both story and environment, has turned into this: [www.penny-arcade.com]

illiniphase4

wow, those controls looked horrible to me. Rotating 90 degrees for alt-fire? why not just use a different button?

And the glowstick just looked annoying as hell to perform. No gracias.

hossZ

@gurfinki: Copyright issues.

@EternalStar: Absolutely. There's plenty of great stuff if people can be bothered to look for it. Had my since February, and am really impressed with the mixture of unique stuff available.

@starmor: Honestly if you can only find one game to play for any console a) that's dumb and b) it's not worth the effort.

@d_r_e:

"We didn't want to make a situation where the player would be forced to wave their hands all over the place all the time for nonsensical reasons."

"So we decided to take one of the darkest most dimly set game environments ever and send the player inside with a ridiculous kind of nonsensical glowstick that would only help him from getting his tits chopped of by monsters by forcing him to wave his hands all over the place roughly every 10 or 15 seconds. Because in a future of gravity modules and wrist mounted time manipulation devices, the concept of a flashlight just doesn't make any sense and the blueprints for current day glowsticks lasting for several hours of high powered light got lost when humanity initially left the Earth because that guy, Steve, who was supposed to pack up all the documents on Glowstick production, yeah, he totally forgot. But actually he was part of a much more sinister and underlying conspiracy plotted in advance for thousands of years... really engaging stuff, be sure to try it out."

@EternalStar: It also seems to have more disc-based shmups than the other two systems. Castle of Shikigami III, the Ultimate Shooting Collection and Blastworks round out my collection, and I know there are more.

Also, it has a few hits if you're willing to look past the mainstream for a good game. Opoona was probably amongst the best $15 bucks I've spent. And the future lineup is looking strong as well.

I must say though, I'm amused that you called Wii Sports/Play 'hardcore'. ;)

Selah

@Hostetler: Only if Natal and the PS3 Dildo go along with it.

I know some will hate me for this but I think Dead Space deserves a Horde mode, especially if you can block out the vents in your room to create a temporary blockade and use that time to reload or focus on enemies coming in from another area. Somewhat excited for this release though, loved DS on the 360.

This looks decent but I'm still bummed that this isn't a Wii-make in the spirit of Resident Evil 4.

After seeing the original footage of Dead Space on the Xbox 1 there it makes me sad as there is obviously no reason they couldn't have made a third person shooter out of this.

@Paradox me: i'd buy a PSP if a dead space game came out on it. D:

curly haired boy

@Rorae: Ten years from now, when the world has moved on past the gimmick that is the Wii controller, that clip will be posted on failblog.

@Killer7:

They need melee weapons... and motion plus...

That is all.

SaanZ

I'm very excited about this.

Dead Space looked pretty cool.... I think that if I like extraction, I'll pick up Dead Space (for PC, or, if the cheaper PS3 slim is out by then, for PS3? ... we'll see)

Crash__Man

@clammy: At least you could maneuver during fights.

Syril

@EternalStar: Take a look at a local Target if at all possible. They had House of the Dead: Overkill on clearance for $20.

I finished Dead Space on the 360 last weekend and really enjoyed the majority of it.

The Wii version however... graphically it looks very good. But the puzzles look tacked on, the welding will get annoying after the 3 vent and the voice (in that clip) is absolutely terrible.
Which is bizarre because the voices in the original Dead Space were one of the best I've encountered in recent gaming.

I think the Wii version looks like a rental at best.
I hope they prove me wrong because it'd be a shame to see the franchise killed off so quickly.

I'm really disappointed. A rail shooter, with "Point the cross-hair at the hot spot" puzzles. Dead Space was about the physics, and tearing things up with planes of force because just shooting them wasn't enough. This looks pathetic, and I'm a Wii lover. I clicked on this to hear about the "control scheme EA's Visceral Games couldn't put on an Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3" and what we have is "tip to alt fire" and "shake remote for light" WTF? You can twist the remote, the sawblade gun could be shot at any angle. Look at freaking Metroid and RE4 before you make another shooter for the Wii, PLEASE.

Gwydeon

@clammy: With that information, I wouldn't have paid full price for the original Dead Space either.

@loempiavreter:
3000 euros is too much for a cabinet, isn't it?

Do Kesubei

The game looks really good in my opinion, certainly gonna try it out and probably pick it up and put it with my other Wii games that hardly sold but are great. (Current Wii Collection: No More Heroes (Bought Release Day), Madworld (pre-ordered and bought release day), Boom Blox (rented then bought), Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Wii Sports, Wii Play, House of the Dead 2 & 3(I will get the new one once I can get some money...), Super Smash Brothers, Metal Slug Anthology, and Zak and Wiki.

Sure looks like the Wii has more 'hardcore' titles than people give it credit.

@Hey_Blinkon:

Hey, Hey_Blinkon!

I don't get your username. The character in Men in Tights was named Blinkin, not Blinkon.

Did you change that I for a O on purpose? Why?

gurfinki

@loempiavreter:

So your saying I'm saying things I didn't say or imply? When you assume you make an a-- out of u and me. I mean, did you catch the part where I expressed my opinion that this would probably be a solid game? I just think wiggling a glow stick and shooting rivets is gimmicky.
I adore rail shooters, I have my dreamcast, lightguns and collection of shooters at the ready and I make sure I have a tube TV to play them on. Hell, I actually own the Pelican Silent Scope Light Rifle for the XBox. I've got two wii-guns + HOTD 2+3, HOTD Overkill, Ghost Squad, Umbrella Chronicles and even Mad Dog Mc-F'ingCree. I've spent vats of tokens on games like time crisis. So please, don't make insulting assumptions about me.
That being said, I still think it feels like a ripoff on Umbrella Chronicles. They saw a survival horror series worked as a rail shooter and went for it. I'd rather see new IP's being developed for railgun games instead of just riding side saddle on something like Dead Space (which i loved).

@CnEY:
Wasn't talking graphics.

OoBaSNoRk

@AusGamer: Eurocom are fuckin' hopeless, I know this as I used to work there and have a number of friends who're still there

@shmup and I used it all of 3 times.

I am certain I must be glossing over some hidden humor or other value in your comment. =/

CnEY

@eyeshield: this games makes me cry that i sold my wii

kinda sad this is the only game i might rebuy another one for

@noesmano: It's a prequel.

Showmeyomoves!

@란: some people only see what they like.

that didn't make any sense, but i felt like commenting.

Showmeyomoves!

@CnEY: How many times can you use the word "schmup" in one comment?

Apparently, TOO MANY times!

Showmeyomoves!

@Orian: MadWorld says hi.

I really enjoyed the PS3 game and I'm looking forward to this game.

Haven't played the other on-rail shooters (unless you count Ghost Squad) so I'm not suffering from the genre burnout that others appear to be.

The Dead Space universe is well conceived and I'm happy to go back there. Should tide me over until Dead Space 2 arrives.

@voxie: This is smart and very interactive compared to other rail shooters

yamato

@Do Kesubei: Surely that point is moot?

i've played the original 360 version, and apart from the anti-grav sections which take up 0.001% of the game, you're pretty much stuck on rails anyhow (going down fixed paths, very little exploring)

If people are prepared to pay full price for a game like that - why not a game like this?

(note to the hard of thinking : I'm not slagging off the original - i loved it!)

clammy

@d_r_e: I'd dig the glowstick idea more if it weren't such an obvious waggle component. I've had it up to here with waggle components that are thrown in just because they can be.

Slightly off-topic, but one of the things that impresses me greatly about Overlord: Dark Legend, is that it seemingly has no waggle controls whatsoever. (Or at least I haven't encountered any yet...) Kudos to those guys, they have faithfully recreated the Overlord experience on Wii with a brand new entry into the franchise. I can only hope that the same can eventually be said of Dead Space Extraction, but somehow I just don't see it happening.

CnEY

I always said the Wii was the machine for on-rails arcade-y shmups. This game is BOUGHT! The co-op puzzling/shooting is a great idea!

@OoBaSNoRk: Dude, that's an insult to Umbrella Chronicles. Its graphics far eclipse what I'm seeing in this game.

That said, I don't want to instantly write this one off, but I do still hold a general contempt for rail shooters on wii, since it feels like it sells the system short, as if the developer was too lazy to make a full FPS or TPS experience.

@loempiavreter: It does occur to me how close stuff like S&P is to rail shooters, but it feels more like a rail shooter / shmup hybrid (though one could argue that shmups are on rails as well). The announcement of S&P2 has me ecstatic, because so far this generation, X360 has been hoarding all the shmups.

CnEY

@Do Kesubei:

They are worth the full 3000 euros for a complete cabinet!

loempiavreter

@stoneteen: seems like it to me too. I'm probably gonna get it when it comes out, just hope that some of the rivet gun and glow worm aspects aren't a gimmick.

These controls look more fun than the original game's.

I think rail shooters are very underrated. There's so much potential. It makes the game more linear, which is great for story telling, but it also still lets you feel immersed (first person perspective) and lets you get in on the action by letting you focus on shooting with the Wii's motion controls. I hope we see stuff like this for Natal.

salmonbottle

@eyeshield: Don't Scho the Schofield.

@Orian: Or maybe they're picking their ears in a really disgusting way...

Rorae

@Thilo Kernchen: Am i the only one that's lol'd at The Forgetful Brain's comment, and Thilo's response? :P

Steffanic

Doesn't look as crappy as I thought it would. That glowstick idea could be very awesome for a horror title.
I was wondering though, how does the stroy fit in? Is this before or after?

@Orian: Monster: "Girly flailing! My only weakness!"

Rorae

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader:

People like you are the reason the Wii lacks "hardcore" titles.

Orian

@Rorae:

Hey, for all you know the Necromorphs could be snacking on the character's ears. That or they're trying to go for the old "GET IT OFF ME!!! GET IT OFF ME!!!" girly flailing routine we all do when something particularly squish, slimy and sickening is touching us. :P

Orian

@NecronomiconUK:

[www.eurocom.co.uk]

ya Eurocom is a cool developer :)

can't wait for this game in September :P

I'm definitely interested in Dead Space: Extraction. Sure, it's another on-rail shooter but its sci-fi horror theme and seemingly more interactive gameplay looks refreshing.

Killer7

@OoBaSNoRk:

So your saying lightgun shooters (rail shooters are like Afterburner or Sin & Punishment, with the contributing factor of the avatar that has to actually dodge the bullets, it's a world of difference) are trash videogames?

It's good that there actually is a system where they are supported, because it's a very underated genre that too much people unfairly think of as simple gameplay. The same people you'll never see their intials between the scores, probably coin mashers at that too.

loempiavreter

@Hey_Blinkon: *Turns to run and smacks head on tree*
FUCK! Then again, maybe I do :(

Hey_Blinkon

@Curse_Lily: Weirdest thing. I fell out of a tree house, and now I can see. So I don't need this after all!

Hey_Blinkon

I love that part at 3:30 where he says 'We wanted to make sure when your making a gesture, it resonates with what you're doing in the game' and the video's showing two guys being attacked by a monster while they're shaking the wiimote next to their ears.

Rorae

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: don't give it a chance or anything. cuts nose off to spite face. good for you!

THEMISSING

i like what i see

I like the way its looking, but I sure hope its a little bit more interactive, not just the glow stick. Some new weapons too, all the weapons so far seem kind of fun but we need more too.

But it's Eurocom developing this game mainly, not Visceral Games

@-[[CHoZO]]-: I think I read somewhere that there is limited control over the direction of the camera. The analog stick could be used for that, although, I'm not sure what happens when you have 2 people playing.

I like rail shooters, but they aren't worth even $40. $30 would be the perfect price point for this game.

Do Kesubei

@Antiterra: Dead Space PSP would be great. I'm on the fence about buying a PSP Go, and a Dead Space PSP announcement would definitely have an impact on which side I fall on.

@[instantrimshot.com]

Thilo Kernchen

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: How is that any different from the original Dead Space? The whole game was entirely linear except for a couple of side paths, which you can still take in this one. Oh no, the game moves forward for you. That also allows them to set up much bigger potential scares among other things. If it were up to your average player, they'd just plow ahead and never care.

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: The first Dead Space wasn't far from being a guided third-person experience. Aside from the graphical downgrade, it looks like it could be much more interesting in terms of story and gameplay.

spannu

I don't like how the Nunchuck is separated from the Zapper. Other than that, I'm liking what I'm seeing.

Oh yes, I do like what I see, very much so.
I was already interested in Extraction because I loved Dead Space, but this is shaping up even better than I expected.

It looks like there's much more than shooting to this game, and plenty of nifty gameplay ideas - puzzles, glow stick, barricading the window, the handling of alt-fire...
I don't know how prominent the "non-shooting" elements will be, but if done correctly, they could provide a nice break from the classic "shoot everything that moves" on-rails leitmotiv.

I just hope it's playable with the HOTD gun - but if the Zapper is a go, no reason the Hand Cannon shouldn't be.

Oh, and it looks unbelievably good.

Now give me a Dead Space PSP where I get to play as Kendra during the same timeframe as the first game, with a more Silent Hill-esque blend of horror.

It warms my heart to see developers making games for the Wii without their eyes being blinded by dollar signs. Just focus on making a quality game, period.

-[[CHoZO]]-

I think they played RE Umbrella Chronicles, made a clone and slapped a couple of gameplay gimmicks in. It'll probably be a solid rail shooter. Its still such a shame to see the wii being relegated to god awful ports (dead rising) Rail shooters, and ports of older titles (RE Archives). Come on guys, Wii can do so much better than this. =\

OoBaSNoRk

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: If it is a guided experience (which I did already know), then what is the nunchuck for? I don't understand what the analog stick would be used for.

-[[CHoZO]]-

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: Sure. It will leave a blank space on your shelf. But... will it leave... a Dead Space?

!!

The Forgetful Brain

Looks okay, don't think it will come close to Virtua Cop 3, HOTD2, Hell Night/Evil Night or Time Crisis 1 & 3. But then again what (lightgun shooter) will?

loempiavreter

glen shaved! :O

also lexine is looking cuter than evar :3

curly haired boy

"guided first-person experience"

Hey_Blinkon we got a game for you ^_^

Hey this seems like it good actually be good

stoneteen

It actually looks like it'll be fun with the Zapper, but it also looks less appealing without the 3rd person view.

Still might have to check this out when I get a Wii.

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader:

So you're telling me none of that looks fun? Alright man, take a step back from what you know from video games and open your mind.

At first I hated that this was a rail shooter, but now I'm starting to realize that you don't need to control where you go for the action to be intense and enveloping. In my opinion the whole co-op idea looks amazing. Me and my best friend both love this game, and now it has co-op? Damn. A lot of those ideas look new and fresh, and because this is a rail shooter, the whole idea of this game is new and fresh.

I've really taken a second look at this game, if you like Dead Space and have a Wii I hope you will too.

I really dig the glowstick idea. That's clever stuff. The interactive and co-op puzzles are a great idea too. I love on rail shooters, and it's nice to see that they have a great home on the Wii. I'll definitely be picking this one up.

@DylanGallagher: Alas I have been living under a rock. That loss in 1988 hit me hard.

@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan - Leader: This has been known about the game practically since it was announced. Where have YOU been?

DylanGallagher

Visceral Games is on a roll.

Kuwabara Kazuo

@eyeshield: Off with the 'hoff!

Kuwabara Kazuo

guided first-person experience

This game is dead to me. It will leave a blank space on my shelf.

i do. i do like what i see. :3

curly haired boy

Oh god why does that first man remind me of David Hasselhoff.

DONT HASSEL THE HOFF MAN.

On a side note, this game is looking pretty sweet man. I'm not minding that this is a rail shooter unlike most people.

Why rails, WHY? Rails is so 1999, man.