Marvelous May Bring Its Wii Games To PS3 & Xbox 360

Good, now they can not sell them on other platforms and quit blaming Nintendo.

griffinrider

@theALLseeingEYE: You just proved my point graphics wise: It wouldn't look any different if it was ported to an HD console.

And you really believe a niche game very few people outside of Kotaku have even heard of will buy this game like hotcakes if it were to go to PSN/XBLA? You're the one that needs a reality check.

Hell, even if the ports did happen the game would probably sell less due to the split of the already small fanbase.

Wanna know why Disgaea found some success in the states despite being a niche title? When they were released they were ONLY released on the PS2/PS3.

It's idiotic to expect huge sales when you game appeals only to a small audience, espicially on the HD consoles.

FYI, I own all three consoles and love them all to death. I'm just sick and tired of the bullshit excuses why people don't like the Wii.

@LazyMan:

Dude...really??

Come-on, this sounds like nothing more than bitter fanboy ranting.

Put it this way. It wouldn't cost tons of money porting Muramasa to PS3/360, because Vanillaware draws all thier art at extremely high resolution (Photoshop) in the first place. They would simply have to re-export all the already created art in 1080p, and re-work the collision/hit detection to work with the larger characters.

Likely a very inexpensive and worthwhile port int he end. Nevermind that the end result would likely look amazing. Not only this, but if they sold this as a $20 downloadable game for PSN/XBLA, it would probably sell like gangbusters.

Really, why not. So your defense, is that an amazing game like this shouldn't even try to find success, because it would split a fanbase? give me a break. Sounds like they haven't even found their fanbase yet.

Hell If I was Marvelous, I'd probably port this sucker to PS2 as well. Probably still sell better than the Wii version. There's really no excuse not to do multi-platform in this day and age. Especially when your target audience has proven that they are unwilling to support anything but Nintendo franchises.

Aww man...I wanted the Wii to have SOME exclusive A titles! But since I own an XBox 360, I guess I can't complain too much.

bjorked

Maybe the reason that Muramasa hasn't caught on yet based on this story in English from an American website is that IT'S NOT EVEN FUCKING OUT YET! Just a thought.

AlucardsQuest

@njd09: Same here. I buy way more Xbox 360 and PS3 games than Wii games. Love me some HD, real surround sound, and decent online features.

@guymanbro: So you're saying he should talk more?

excel_excel does have a point, though.

@Graham: Nice trolling, mister.

for ps3 this will rock but for 360 it will clearly fail!

Balram Shanker Trivedi

@Shredator: What's dumbed down about it? So far the game looks great. And judging from E3 videos I've seen it plays great too.

If you mean graphically, I don't really see how to make it look even better. Marvelous was going for the painting look, and they've nailed it even on the Wii. It'd look the same even on an HD console.

And I have played Odin Sphere. I didn't experience any slowdown.

@InconspicuouslyUninspiring: You do know that the Wii is for everyone, right?

And that everyone just so happens to include old people and little kids, right?

And you do know that the Gameboy was in a similar situation when it came out, right?

And you do know that they're only considering it, and haven't officially announced a port, right?

@InconspicuouslyUninspiring: Why didn't you? Too caught up in the "hardcore" image? Still under the belief that Nintendo is for losers and the cool kids have HD consoles?

Leanid

@浴武士!!!! I'd like to start a manga like that: Unlikely. This will only give them more reason to shit all over the Wii.

Leanid

@the7k: at the same time, the 360 and ps3 only have 2 new "fresh" 2d fighters.. i guess you can count sf IV and battle fantasia.. but 2d fighters in general dont really have anything out these days.

and most hardcore fighting game fans agree that a stick is better than a controller... the wii has a wonderful arcade stick made just for tvc.

@guymanbro: No, it's not a crap console. There's some good games to be had on the system, like Muramasa the Demon Blade.

I doubt this will come to pass, as it's just retarded to make a niche game multiplatform. Espicially a niche game that was originally on the Wii, which have to be remade from the ground up.

Like it or not, The Wii is a real console.

@guymanbro: ???.....

I would love to see Muramasa and Odin Sphere on the Xbox 360.

Sucks that there are so many Wii out there but majority of all those Wii owners aren't buying any games...WTF!

motang

@浴武士!!!! I'd like to start a manga like that: Oh, such optimism. You think the fanboys will ever disappear? Oh, they'll find something. They're like cockroaches - they can survive anything.

@LazyMan: You´re in for the win, I agree with it 1000%.

I didn´t like No More Heroes that much... I don´t know why. I bought into the hype and wasn´t really fond of it.

@Ueziel: Did it ever cross your mind that their previous game, Odin Sphere, was a huge let down because the system it was on couldn't handle it?

@excel_excel: Hey it's the 2 guys who believe their opinions are facts.
I guess neither of you guys played Odin Sphere. I want it on PS3/360 so I don't have to worry about horrible game breaking slow down that was in Odin Sphere.
Yes, I realize it's for the Wii and not the PS2 but I rather them do anything they want with the game than have them dumb it down so the Wii can run it.

Muramasa on PS3! That would be awesome, man!

I will cancel my Wii copy for a 360 version in a heartbeat if I get confirmation!!!

@excel_excel: I very doubt you should shut up.

guymanbro

@excel_excel:

It's not a real console. I don't care if I can see it, hear it, touch it. It is shit. You bought a crap system.

guymanbro

Harvest Moon Online PS3, XBOX360 and Wii. the quite

Let me just say that I hope this DOESN'T happen. Trying to make an exclusive niche game multi-platform is generally a bad idea. Not only are you splitting up that already small niche fanbase, but there's a chance that one version of the game will have more features than other versions making those who bought one version feel bad about buying it. (I.E., Tales of Vesperia, Both Ninja Gaiden Games, Person 3, Eternal Sonata).

This is worse when the second version of the game comes out long after the first one did, meaning that those who shelled out cash for when the game first came out will have to do so AGAIN just to see all the bonus content the new version has. Again, I'm going to point at the same examples I used above.

Now, obviously this has worked since companies still plan on doing this. Wanna know why they work? Because the franchises getting the up-port are popular enough to actually get sales when the new version comes out (Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Tales of Vesperia).

Now for Marvelous games? They didn't do too well, even in their home country of Nippon. So what the hell would compell them to sell what already didn't sell well with a potentially expensive remake? Making games is expensive, espicially when those games would have to be remade from the ground up to support the new control schemes (No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki) or could already work as is on that same HD console as it would the Wii (seriously, look at Disgaea 3. All that graphical power to play with and NIS still makes a game that looks like it's for the fucking PSP? Come on).

Then there's the response to this. It was absolute joy because now it's not only on the Wii any more... Are you fucking kidding me? It's like the Wii isn't allowed to have any good games because then you wouldn't be able to hate it as much for pandering to children and the elderly.

News flash people: The Wii is for everyone. The elderly and children just happen to fit into that "everyone" group just as much as you do.

tl;dr Version: This is stupid. You're stupid for thinking this was a good idea Marvelous, and I hope you learn the error of your ways before it's too late.

Oh, and one last thing: This casual wave already happened once. It spawned the PS2. So I think that casual gaming isn't going to hurt our industry as much as people would like to have you think.

@Mister_CrazyGuy: Uh, not really.

I have all three, so if I want a 360/PS3/Wii exclusive, I JUST BUY IT FOR THE CONSOLE IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO.

The only real way to win this generation is to have all three consoles. Or just build a gaming PC.

@Archaotic: Shame that No More Heroes wouldn't work very well on any other console.

@Ueziel: Not this again. Jeez.

Svend Joscelyne

@Graham: For some reason, I think the PSP could even handle that one. Actually, I would love this on the PSP.

hanulbada

@Archaotic: well to be fair- FES launched in america at a budget price, too.
also- a lot of us who wanted to buy the original Persona 3 more than a month after its initial release were screwed as the game was made available in such limited quantities. it floated right under my radar for about 2 months and when it started getting great reviews and terrific word-of-mouth on the internet- it was impossible to find in stores and used copies skyrocketed in price.

@the7k: Dude, you have different taste in games than some other people? You're an asshole. Learn to like what is good, and by that I mean learn to like what I deem good.

Hey_Blinkon

@Wizard: That's what I'm here for.

@Archaotic: ...bloody shame we didn't get the Append disc then.

Didn't know about that though. Thanks for the information.

Wizard

Yes, please.

@Wizard: In Japan, FES launched as two separate SKUs; the "Append" disc, which JUST contained the new content and launched at a budget price, and the two-pack we got here in the US.

@Ueziel: Cool, no one will care.

@gold163: Isn't that the whole point? I mean, haven't I been saying that the Wii didn't suit my tastes?

Here's my point - Tatsunoko vs Capcom is coming to a system that has no other 2D Fighters on it (I guess I should say 'fresh' 2D fighters - GGXX Rehash and SamSho Collection aren't exactly 'new'), and no other 2D Fighters planned for it.

I'm not saying releasing to the Wii is a stupid move - if more people had released games to the Wii in addition to the PS3 and 360, I wouldn't have had to get an HD console. I'm just saying that it's kinda a stupid move to not release it to the PS3/360. There IS an audience for 2D Fighters there, while the Wii seems more concerned with adventure games, platformers and light gun games.

@jive238: I think this qualifies as a case in point.

Okay, here's another example. Persona 3 and Persona 3:FES. Data's non-transferrable, and FES contains the entirety of Persona 3. But if you want the full story, you've gotta shell out money for ANOTHER copy of Persona 3.

Saw a lot of angry Persona fans back when that happened. (Happy that FES was being localized, frustrated that they'd have to buy it again.)

Wizard

@shouryuuken: I'm not saying it won't be fun, it's just that there are more fighting game controller options on the PS3 and X360 - because, lo and behold - that's where the fighting games are. Playing fighting games even on the VC controller is kinda a pain.

I guess that's just me though.

@uWaAvenger: Godfather? Scarface? Madden? Call of Duty 3 and 5? Ghost Squad? Madworld? House of the Dead rehashes? Resident Evil rehashes? TMNT? Smachdown VS RAW?

We have very different ideas of what is 'Good'.

@uWaAvenger: dude.. i love igre woods.. the fantasy golf game staring an ogre named igre woods. its so brilliant.

@Hey_Blinkon: It sounds more like they were making uninformed decisions to me. Seriously, if you KNEW there was going to be a version later on down the line with more content that you definitely wanted would YOU purchase the earlier released version. I don't know if you've ever first hand experienced such a situation, but let me tell you, you'll get REAL pissed off when it happens. Not only do you feel stupid as if you made a mistake but then you're left contemplating whether you should buy the new version or stick with the old and, heaven knows, you want the new one. But games aren't cheap so its set you back some. And shit only gets worse when you hit the internet where assholes feel the need to rub the fact that you bought the first "inferior" version or that you should be satisfied with the one we bought because we "CONSIDERED WORTH IT" implying that we willing disregarded the newer version that NO ONE KNEW ABOUT AT THE TIME!!

@spannu: Sorry spannu, but one of the reasons I loved No More Heroes so much was for the use of the Wiimote. I cannot find how they would make the wrestling moves or finishing off an enemy or as satisfying as they were with the Wiimote, but using a controller.

@Shin_Ein: Getting Greatest Hits doesn't really mean anything like sales at this point. There have been a lot of games in there that sold pretty badly, Okami being one of them. It was basically just a last-ditch effort to get more sales for those two games. It didn't help that much.

No more heroes on PS3...

Humm I thought the motion based stuff made the game.

Maybe it's possible on the Six Axis though.

billysan

@Graham:

you said that like some quoting from a Fast and Furious movie "I WANT TO SEE A REAL MACHINE"... VRUUMMM

Blitzgrilo

@Wizard: The big difference? PS3 owners have yet to play Tales of Vesperia. That might make them angry. Bottom line is, you buy a game, you think it is worth it. Whatever happens later doesn't change what you ALREADY CONSIDERED WORTH IT.

Hey_Blinkon

@Wizard: Shoving a niche game out on multiple platforms is almost always a bad idea. True, i'm just saying they should find where their concentration of gamers were for that market and just release it there. Odin Sphere was a huge success for a niche title (it even made it to Greatest Hits, so did Okami) in the US and JP. They should have just released it for PS2.

I understand, maybe they had some kind of vision with the Wii motion controls or something and maybe they just wanted to do that. Still, the option to use classic control is there, so that leads me to believe even that might have been an after thought or "Lets use it since it's there" kind of thing. PS2 would have still been a better choice in my eyes. User base is still massive, cant go wrong.

Shin_Ein

Muramasa and No More Heroes on the PS3? Yes, please!

spikespeigel

Please bring them on PS3!

elmorepow

@Graham: Why has this guy not been disemvoweled yet? I thought trolls got disemvoweled...?

@Hey_Blinkon: I think there are a bunch of Tales of Vesperia owners for the 360 who would very much beg to differ.

The bonuses on the PS3 version are enough to make quite a few Tales fans I know rather angry that they bought it on the 360 to begin with. (Tales of Abyss outfits? Hell yeah!) It also ensures that they'll hold off buying anything until they're positive that "Extended Hyper Turbo Edition with more and better stuff!" isn't coming out.

Wizard

@MellowB: omg if they bring muramasa onto ps3 i will shit brix. Muramasa is like... one of the few games i actually want on the wii....!

wazzzup16

@Ueziel: Ok I explain it again for you:

Did you enjoy playing the games? Does the existence of another game take anything away from that? No!

The talk about graphics is hilarious.
Think about it, it is like complaining that the original Bionic Commando doesn't look as good as Bionic Commando: Rearmed.
Not to mention that every Wii player claims "graphics are not important, gameplay matters".

develin

@the7k: well there was already a twilght princess, metroid prime 3, super mario galxy, super paper mario, scarface, godfather, igre woods, madden, no more heroes, wario land, call of duty3/waw, boom blox, zack and wiki, ghost squad, madworld, house of the dead, 2/3 overkill, resident ebil 4/umbrellachronicles, medal of honor heroes 2, okami, super smash bros, TMNT,Smackdown VS raw... no there will be dead space extraction, there is the conduit, silent hill, muramasa, tatsunoku vs capcom, metroid other m, new super mario bros wii, super mario galaxy 2... and STILL you say you had NOTHING o play on the wii please shut the hell up i guarantee you dont half that many games on your 360 or ps3...

uWaAvenger

@Shin_Ein: you push out niche games

Niche games generally do NOT sell well, no matter how critically acclaimed they are. Doesn't matter what console you put them out on. And Okami didn't sell well (...pretty much anywhere) period, even though it was on the PS2.

Shoving a niche game out onto all the available consoles I think would result in a net loss more than a net gain. (Look at problems with 360 to PS3 conversion and PS3 to 360 conversion. And let's not even bring up Wii to either of the other two.)

Wizard

@Ueziel: I guess when it comes down to it, stay your party line and demand that everything you want to play comes out on the console you've chosen to affiliate yourself with. *sighs*

I think this statement was a stupid one to make, as they're now cannibalizing some of their own Muramasa sales (It hasn't come out in the States yet.) by getting players to decide to hold off just in case it comes out on another console. (And this usually equates to either not ever buying it, or getting it from the used bin.)

Wizard

@란: but I like my Wii...

I play with it every now and then...

@pslong9: Awuhhh...? Oh right, Atlus got Demon's Souls. Durr - ty!

@InconspicuouslyUninspiring: Oh Em Gee....

heartbeat*

@Graham: so then the psone (non dualshock) the sega genesis, atari 7800, the NES, Snes, master system, turbo grafx, none of those had actual controllers??? youre an idiot, the wii remote on its side is an excellent classic style dpad and buttons, much like he ones mentioned here.

uWaAvenger

@Bedlam: They should just throw it up onto PSN. I'd really buy that in a hardbeat.

I nearly took the plunge for the Wii just to get this game and a few of my other childhood favorites.

This game dam near did it...

@the7k: how can you not see tvc on the wii being fun? i dont see how itd be anymore fun on anything else besides an arcade cabinet. i hate the playstation d-pad and loathe the 360 one even more. i have classic controllers.. and the game is amazing. i wish more stuff like that would be exclusive to the wii.. why? because they make so much other stuff only for other consoles.

im glad tvc probably wont hit 360 or ps3.. and same goes for monster hunter 3 and zack and wiki. i like the diversity... im glad crackdowns only on 360.. and uncharted, infamous, and little big planet will stay on my ps3. it makes me have a reason to be excited about my purchase.

so yeah, please dont bring muramasa to anything else.. stay on the wii. where it belongs.

@pslong9: Yeah, that's true. Wii is the majority in Japan. I dont really know what the core gamer owns there though. It would seem like it would be on the Wii, but i feel there it's on the PS3. Japan is really really trendy and people just buy the newest thing because it's just that, the newest thing. After importing Yakuza 3, i'd say they should have just released this on the PS3 from the get-go.

It's also noted that most games based off Japanese history dont generally sell too well over there. Look at poor Okami.. :( The exceptions being Samurai Warriors, Onimusha, and the Nobunaga games.

Shin_Ein

If NMH comes to 360, it will be nice to have the better visuals but I think of the best things about the game is finishing off opponents by moving the remote in a direction. It brings some extra satisfaction that you won't get on other systems.

@Killer7:

I thought the motion controls felt bolted on and pointless. For me the appeal of the game lay in the dialogue, art style and humour. The combat was fun too, but would be better without dodgy motion controls.

I would definitly buy No More Heroes again if it came out on 360. And probably would give Muramasa a purchase as well, since it looks stunning.

With a little extra content and some HD graphics, I'd for sure buy No More Heroes and play through it again.

@gold163: The PS3 was the only system to launch this gen with a spectacularly good exclusive: Resistance: Fall of Man. The problem was that it was the only spectacularly good exclusive until Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank came out a year later. Now the PS3 is going strong, and has the largest amount of spectacularly good exclusives, both already out, and/or upcoming.

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: I don't own a Wii, but if I did, I'd buy NMH and Muramasa, at least. I dunno about Arc Rise Fantasia, since I've barely heard anything about it. I would rather play Muramasa on a PS3 though, since it doesn't use motion controls, and therefore is better on a traditional controller.

Muramasa on PS3 please. I barely even Know what Arc Rise Fantasia is, so that gets a "sure, why not?" from me because there aren't enough damn RPGs on PS3. I dunno if NMH would be as good without the wiimote, so I give that a "maybe"

@Ueziel: A bonus for late comers/alternate consoles != punishing the original console owners. And worth is in the eye of the beholder.

Hey_Blinkon

@Shin_Ein: Don't forget, this is all related to Japanese sales - most of the Marvelous-published games we're talking about here haven't even been released in the US yet. The niche audience in Japan is probably on the Wii right now. However, considering that 99% of games right now in Japan are selling terribly, and Marvelous is doing a terrible job of advertising them, it's no surprise they're thinking about porting the games.

pslong9

@cornerman8: Do they sell full retail games on PSN? Because if it goes to PS3/360, expect to pay $60 for it.

pslong9

@develin: On the company itself and on anyone who actually does buy them. "No one" is an obvious exaggeration, one which I would hope people would catch.

Look at Eternal Sonata's port from 360 to PS3. It got an entirely new epilogue and a very fleshed out and changed ending, along with multiple new characters. The original version is now basically worthless since that's now clearly not the writers' real idea (or that would have had nothing to put in and nothing to change it to) and as such, the people who purchased the original, are now punished. THAT is dumb. Even moreso in this case where the graphics will have to be changed, along with any changes of any other type. Yes, the Wii version WILL be worthless compared to that.

@Mister_CrazyGuy: The only Wii game I wanted on 360/PS3/PC is Monster Hunter 3. Which was originally a PS3 game. Which was one of the reasons I bought a PS3. Now I have a Wii sitting on my shelf gathering dust until it releases.

@Chances: Ignition is publishing Muramasa in North America, not Atlus.

pslong9

@the7k: The Wii? The most played Wii game is still Super Smash Brothers. I think that speaks volumes.

Assuming you're talking about the graph that was posted yesterday, yeah, it speaks volumes to the fact that the people who play Smash Bros Brawl really like the game, so they keep playing it over and over and over again. That's all. That graph showed overall playing time, so while very few people are playing Zelda: Twilight Princess right now, it will still have one of the top spots because people put 40+ hours into it two years ago. It has nothing to do with what's being played now.

As for the rest of your post - yeah, seems like you have narrow tastes, and the Wii isn't really for you. It is for me, though - 20 retail games on my shelf, 2 that are out now that I want to pick up at some point, and 2 this month on pre-order. I'm not lacking for gaming on the Wii at all.

Also, from what I've read so far, the repetition issues are still there in Muramasa.

pslong9

@ShadowOdin isn't american: I wouldn't be me if i wasn't happy most of the times ^_^

@excel_excel: Σ(゜д゜;) WHAT! what happen did you took a bite of an overheated hot pocket?

@the7k: I'm not trying to convince you to buy a Wii again. I'm not telling you that you should change your tastes. In fact, I don't see how your tastes are even relevant to what I'm saying. All I want to get across is that I'm tired of hearing all this stuff about how Wii games shouldn't be Wii games. Okay, you don't like what the Wii has to offer, you don't consider much of it as quality. I get it. Now, if so many people think like that, since you act as if that's the ONLY way to think about things, why the hell am I hearing about how Muramasa should be on a "real machine"? I don't give a shit as to why you sold your Wii. Fact is, I still have mine, I'm still somewhat satisfied with it, and I'm going to be playing Tatsunoko vs. Capcom on it. You won't. So fucking what? You get freakin' everything else. Blazblue and a ton of other fighters aren't on the Wii, and you don't hear Wii owners complaining about that. Sure, all the "five star Wii games" are mediocre, especially in your eyes. But to Wii owners, it's better than more shovelware Wii Fit crap, and it might be the best we can get. Hell, it might be a sign that better things are on the way. Why does everyone have to ruin that? It's fucked up is all I'm saying. Like I said, "too little, too late" applies differently to some people who might have more patience for the Wii than you did, and it's okay that you decided to ditch the Wii to satisfy your interests. That's great. Good for you.

You said that the problem here was that so many people bought the Wii expecting a revolution that they never received. That's terrible, and I'm glad a lot of you have gone on to other consoles you consider better. What I'm pissed about is the people who CAN'T get over it, and I don't see how any of what you're saying justifies any of those types of actions.

Damn I hope they make some official announcements on these ports soon.

If Muramasa and Arc Rise Fantasia are moving to PS3/XBOX 360, there will be no point for me to buy the Wii version.

These two games doesn't benefit from Wii's motion control, but could definitely benefit from the processing power of PS3/XBOX360. I wouldn't mind paying a little more than the Wii version too

Honestly, what did they expect? you push out niche games on system that's heavily owned by the average consumer and not gamer, expecting awesome sales? I think not. You publish your niche games where your niche audience is. Ps2 and PS3 (sorry 360 owners, you're mostly action/shooter players, it's true). Even so, most of the already niche audience that owned PS2s have either gone the way of 360 OR Ps3, even few rarely own both. So yea... expect poor sales.

I'm getting this for the Wii, but if it comes to PS3 or 360 (on PS3, cause the 360 d-pad is abysmal), i'll most likely buy it again just because. Look at Atlus. There's a company who caters to the audience this type of game is aimed at and they're doing really really well. It's all about knowing who your target audience is, where they game, and catering to them. Not sure why they dont see that.. ah well. You live, you learn.

Shin_Ein

Muramasa in high definition?

FUCKING SIGN ME UP

@Ueziel: What kind of a stupid argument is that. They couldn't get better graphics done on the wii. In particular, you loose nothing - your experience doesn't get worse. You either enjoy or don't enjoy the game.

In particular you make yourself sound stupid by first complaining that "hey're just going to punish anyone who supports the original version" while in the end you say "none of it will matter because it won't do any better". So where is the punishment?

develin

@MixMaster81: Both actually - not only was I not playing it, but I didn't have a job. A man needs to eat.

If I had a job, I probably would have held on to the Wii. Like I said, I've never sold a system before, regardless of how much it disappointed me.

@Wizard: Exactly. I mean, I hope they actually back out of this because it sounds like it's not finalized or anything. Porting games up like that is only going to hurt them.

It really makes for some funny comments though. "There's nothing on the Wii that I'd like to play! I would buy this game on the 360!" HUH? Whatever, people can be confusing all they want.

@Ueziel: You played ONLY the games that are supposed to the "the best?" That's just borderline retarded.

Of course not. I also played Fire Emblem, Guilty Gear XX Turbo Revival, Wario Ware (forgot about Wario Ware, I did love that one too), and a few others. Why mention EVERY game I played on the Wii?

And in literally every case of every system I've ever owned ever out of all of them, there is ALWAYS at least one game I'd like that comes out after I start thinking there's nothing to play. It ALWAYS happens.

That one game for me was TvC - I figured that, with all the licensing issues, it was no more than a pipe dream to think it was coming here. I mean, hell, it's the same thing that killed Super Robot Wars Alpha when it was supposed to come to the PSX, and companies have only gotten more money hungry over time - I thought it was senseless to ever expect an agreement to be met between Capcom, Tatsunoko, and the millions of companies that have Tatsunoko licensing rights.

@the7k: But are you really betting on the possibility that NO game you would possibly like will come out on the system just because it hasn't happened in a while? You didn't really offer a reason why you didn't finish the games you said you didn't finish. Let me ask you this: Why EXACTLY did you sell it? Because you needed the money for something else, or because you didn't play it anymore? The first I understand, but the second is damn near moronic.

MixMaster81

I would buy the HELL out of Muramasa if it was on PS3.

NixNax

@gold163: If you enjoy your Wii, that's great. I did not. I have very particular tastes, however. I like strong online multiplayer, 2D Fighters, and Shooters. The Wii did not satisfy those tastes.

Yes, Sony did fuck up early on, and I mean REALLY fuck up. However, they came out the door at the same time as Nintendo, and they have improved leaps and bounds over what they used to be. The Wii? The most played Wii game is still Super Smash Brothers. I think that speaks volumes.

Too think Madworld would have done better on the PS3/360 is insane - that game was a flawed experience to begin with. No More Heroes was, by most accounts, just above average. The Conduit? It's only claim to fame is that it is a decent FPS on the Wii. A decent FPS on the PS3/360? Join the club - we're already 2 Million Strong. After Odin Sphere, VanillaSoft is going to have to prove themselves in a huge freakin' way - as beautiful as it was, that game had serious performance issues, control issues, inventory management issues, and more importantly, repetition issues. All the HD in the world isn't going to fix these problems. It's like using a Disc Doctor on a CD that was used for target practice.

Just for the record, Tatsunoko vs Capcom is the ONLY game on the Wii I want on the PS3/360. To play a semi-serious 2D Fighter with the Wii - I just can't see it being fun. I'll get TvC and a Wii eventually. It just might be two to three generations from now, when I can pick them both up for about $45.

@jookie: I'd love confirmation for this game in particular, but even then it would only be confirmation for Japan - and given that Atlus is publishing Muramasa in North America I'm gonna' have to snap up an early copy before they're gone forever (damn you, Atlus! I love you!)

And then, at some point in the future, I'll have to buy a damned Wii.

@the7k: It means you have bad taste in that case. And honestly, you did a poor job of trying it out from the sound of things. You played ONLY the games that are supposed to the "the best?" That's just borderline retarded.

And no, two years is not enough of a chance. I had my Playstation 1 from launch. It was absolute garbage and I never did anything with it aside from Final Fantasy Tactics and 7 until FF8 came out and Metal Gear Solid. After that point, there were plenty of games. Systems have long life cycles these days.

And in literally every case of every system I've ever owned ever out of all of them, there is ALWAYS at least one game I'd like that comes out after I start thinking there's nothing to play. It ALWAYS happens.

@Hey_Blinkon: If they're just going to punish anyone who supports the original version, then yeah, that's how it's going to be. This is the same goddamn thing as enhanced ports from PS3-360 or 360-PS3. It punishes the people who originally wanted to play your game by making the other side feel like they got a worse version because I can guarantee you, by the time it came out for 360/PS3, they would have had to add some form of online co-op, probably more story parts that didn't originally need to be there.

And none of it will matter because it won't do any better.

Muramasa....put that badboy on PSN. I got some money that's just burning in my pocket...ready to give it up.

cornerman8

FUUUUUUCK

Now I don't know if I want to buy Muramasa when it comes out. Please announce something before the Wii version releases over here. I'd rather save my money if a higher resolution version is coming out for the 360.

@AngerII: don't wouldn't! Uhg...

@mdo7: SO and IU are tri-Ace games and IU was almost entirely funded by microsoft.

Not saying it'll never happen, but I don't wouldn't expect either anytime soon consider tri-Ace is working on end of eternity now (which looks pretty cool).

@Ueziel: I'm going to have to agree with A pretty solidly. Specifically, the part about "no one buying it."

Gamers on the internet shouting how much they'd love a game on their console of choice has never equated to sales. (Hell, most things with internet support don't equate to sales.)

It's all up to advertising, and I doubt there'll be too much of that, even with ports.

I'd be surprised if Marvelous actually made back the money spent in updating the game for the other two consoles. (And if they don't, people are going to whine even more and still fail to make purchases.)

Wizard

yeah, they might as well bring them to PS3 and 360 because I'm definitely not going to purchase a Wii to play those games.

I would definitely pick up Muramasa for the 360.

BGFUSAB

I am sure 360/PS3 will be good sales.

Jim Jones

@Atomsk88: The Wii is the first console I have ever sold, and I mean ever. I still have every other console I have ever bought.

The difference between every other console and the Wii? I still play every other console. The Wii was just taking up space.

@Ueziel: I gave the Wii plenty of chance. Two years of chance, in fact. In that time, the only games I enjoyed were Super Smash Brothers and Metroid Prime 3. In fact, they were the only games I even finished. Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Resident Evil 4 Wii, Zelda: Twilight Princess, and the rest of my games I just couldn't bring myself to finish.

Now, when I play all the games that are considered 'The Best' for a system and don't enjoy them, how is it dumb to sell it? I should at least get SOME return on the failed investment. Holding on to something that brings absolutely no benefit to me? THAT, my friend, is dumb. Damn near moronic.

@the7k: You could say the same about the PS3. While the effect certainly wasn't to the magnitude that the Wii was, it's no lie to say that many people were disappointed with the PS3's meager exclusive selection not only at launch, but for the next year and a half or so. It's only fairly recently, from my view, that people have begun to give the PS3 a second chance.

I wouldn't expect much from the new Metroid or Zelda; Other M looks kind of cool but it looks NOTHING like Metroid IMO, and Miyamoto himself said not to expect radical changes from the new Zelda. Considering that even Zelda fans are sick of same old, same old, that's not really a recipe for success. This coming from both a fan of Metroid and Zelda.

You can say that the PS3 and 360 have a good selection covered generously, but a large number of those good games are multiplatform anyway. Yet, when the Wii gets an exclusive, it gets all this hate, and I'm tired of hearing it.

Another thing to consider is that Nintendo doesn't really HAVE many third party supporters, and it's my firm belief that whatever supporters Nintendo DOES have have provided and are providing as much as they can (with the exception of Capcom and their penchant for vomiting out ports). Otherwise, I'll gladly join in on blaming Nintendo for the Wii's problems; let's face it, they have not done much to accommodate the gamer who actually plays games. But some of us still stick by them, if only for the developers who actually keep their promises of delivering good games to the system. So why do WE have to take this crap from you people?

I think it's bullshit that people have to go, "Wow Madworld/The Conduit/No More Heroes would have been so much cooler on the PS3/360. In HD." It might be "too little, too late" for you, but some of us still like our Wiis, and for some of us, that's all that we have, and it's just plain douchebaggery to rag on the Wii like so many people are doing. Not only is it unfair and mean, it's also irritating to see so much jealousy. Just because somebody didn't like the Wii enough to own one for any of the great games it DOES offer doesn't mean that it's okay to tell current Wii owners not to have fun with their consoles.

@Ueziel: Boo fuckin hoo. Your loss. I undestand not buying the up ported, but boycotting the wii version? Stupid.

Hey_Blinkon

@Graham: I fail to see how Muramasa would look much better on a machine more powerful than the Wii.

@Archaotic: But I don't see a success in this. First of all, they'll have to update the graphics for the 360/PS3 version (cost money), they'll already be on the Wii (with $10 less in price) and some of them will need to change motion control to other configuration.

Second, there is no guarantee that most of this games see decent sales on 360/PS3 (maybe No More Heroes will be the exception).

I don't see this happening and be a complete success. Maybe they need to try the most populat ones (No More Heroes and Muramasa), and see the market movement. Well, that's my opinion.

Hayabusa_San

@Ueziel: Okay, hey, lets not get a humbug up our butts. It was a simple misunderstanding.

It's not like something I cared much about anyway - No More Heroes didn't even begin to interest me.

@Graham: I didn't respond to your comment.

@SaanZ: It's the same poster. :|

jookie

@the7k: I really don't get people who sells consoles. I guess there are just very few of my belongings that I really view as being that liquid that I should just sell them if I haven't used them for a month or two.

nworobes

oh holy hell, id buy all those games.. specially arc rise

please?

Ayperos

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: Instead, I'm just not going to buy the games at all and I could buy them for either the Wii or 360. It's extremely stupid and hurts the industry and their own company more than it would help.

They'll sell absolutely no more copies, they'll be completely ignored anyway and that HD upgrade will just make them lose money.

@Archaotic: Abso-fuckin'-lutely... I already own NMH on the Wii, but I'd buy it for the PS3/360 without a doubt.

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: Yep. Won't buy these on Wii (though I have one). Would buy on 360.

@Ueziel: C. This "put it on a real system" garbage is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Totally agree, I have no problem with them porting games but this 'real system' bs is getting old

@the7k: Sure, but then the Wiimote control scheme brought Suda to bring it to the Wii.

As much as there are people who want No More Heroes on another console, this article ( [kotaku.com] ) from this morning implies 360 owners will have their own unique game thanks to Natal. NMH went to the Wii for the Wiimote, now a different Suda51 game will go to the 360 for the Natal.

Atomsk88

@Ueziel: Oh Ueziel, you are right!

@the7k: Uh, no? He said he was originally going to do a 360 game but then saw the Wii and then decided to make the game from the ground up for it. It would have been a completely different game otherwise.

@Atomsk88: I feel the same way. I may not like my Wii, but I'm not giving it up just yet.

@MellowB: Yes, yes, YES. I will definitely buy Marvelous games on the 360. YES! PLEASE!

@Archaotic: Count me out. It's extremely dumb to "up port" something.

If they port Arc Rise, I'm not buying it at all, on either system.

A. This would hurt them more than help. It would either cost a ton of money to make it in HD and it would sell absolutely no better. Or they wouldn't bother to update it like that and no one would buy it at all.

B. Just give it up. Buy a Wii and buy the games for it if you want them.

C. This "put it on a real system" garbage is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

@Shredator: You are really really dumb.

@the7k: It's never too little too late. It's that people are dumb and sell their systems because they can't just hold onto something or give anything a chance.

@the7k: Moral of the story children: never, and I mean NEVER, sell a console.

You'll be sorry. Truly, truly sorry.

Atomsk88

I'd love to see it on 360 and PS3. I'd love to see the game in HD. Plus, achievements are always great.

jookie

@SaanZ: I'm just hoping it has more substance than Odin Sphere did. It was a gorgeous game, but the gameplay was linear and boring, especially after button-mashing the gazillionth identical bad guy. I tried very, very hard to love it, but I couldn't even do a second playthrough.

Muramasa has belonged on PS3/360 since its conception. Please bring it at the same time as the Wii version because I don't think I can wait!

@SaanZ: We shall see. We do know that at the very least SOME of MMV's games will be getting ported. NMH, Muramasa, and Arc Rise seem to be the most likely candidates.

@Archaotic:

That doesnt mean its on the PS3... the games have done better outside of Japan.

He might be waiting for a new console for all we know.

SaanZ

@Edgar Omar: Yes, one niche publisher that is going to port a game (maybe more than one) from the Wii to the 360/PS3 in Japan is going to spell the end for Nintendo.

pslong9

No More Heroes in hi-res would make me make a mess on me making a mess on it. whaaa? yeah, it means i'd own it in a heartbeat!

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: Don't know about most people, but I was already looking for a buyer for my Wii by the time No More Heroes hit.

I very doubt they'll sell more on PS3 or 360. A lot of people forget Killer 7 was on Gamecube AND PS2 and sold less than No More Heroes.

Honestly, though I own all 3 consoles and love to see games go multiplatform so more people can enjoy them, I wholeheartedly wish that exclusive Wii games would stay exclusive.

I know it's tough on developers not getting the sales they need, but these few, good, exclusive Wii games are what make the system worth owning.

I say keep the games Wii exclusive and take advantage of the freedom that gives the developer for coming up with new, unique control schemes.

@UltimatePancakeSensation: I can see No More Heroes this way - wasn't it stated often that No More Heroes was originally meant for the X360?

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: Seeing as the US doesn't have Muramasa, Arc Rise Fantasia, or Little King's Story yet, I'm guessing you're wrong.

Now, wait a few months, and then I'll agree with you (though I'll have LKS and ARF at the very least).

pslong9

@hyourinnmaru: The Wii exists. Therfore it is a real console.

@Edgar Omar: Eh>>

@NyappyHeroism: Don't forget that all of this is in Japan. Marvelous is doing a pretty poor job of marketing in Japan, although I really don't understand why Muramasa would be having problems, considering they sold through about 95% of their first shipment in a week.

Marvelous should really clarify which of their titles they're porting over, though, because they're going to lose sales on the Wii versions of the games until they do so, even if the ports won't be getting here to the US (if they even do) until mid to late 2010.

pslong9

@UltimatePancakeSensation: I don't think it qualifies as ethnocentric, if US History taught me anything... -looks it up- uh....

ethnocentrism - Belief in the superiority of one's own ethnic group.

Yeah, no offense, I didn't really get that one.

njd09

@gold163: The problem is that many of us bought the Wii when it launched, mesmerized by the idea of better controls over better graphics. Unfortunately, Nintendo and its many third party supporters failed to deliver either - so many of us traded up by selling our Wii Systems so that we could instead get a 360 or PS3. I held on to my system for a long time, only to eventually give up hope and being tired of seeing it on the floor in its box for about 4 months.

Now that many of us have sold our Wii, Nintendo is finally kicking it into gear. The only problem is, even with games like Muramasa, The Conduit, and Tatsunoko vs Capcom, it's still too little, too late. Even with all the great games that the Wii will be bringing (Eventually... Jesus, it's going to be a wait), the PS3 and 360 have all of those areas covered generously.

At least, that's how I see it. As much as I'd like to get TvC, I just can't justify spending $300 on one game. I'll have to at least wait for the new Metroid and Zelda, and hope to God that they live up to their names.

@Graham: *SNIFF SNIFF* I smell flamebait. :/

@SaanZ: I'm sorry, I don't consider the wiimote on its side to be any sort of controller.

I'm not bashing the Wii (although I have no problems talking crap about it). The fact is, the Wii was never made to be a graphical powerhouse. Imagine how much cooler a game like this would be on a system that can actually compliment the visuals?

Geez you people are defensive. Everything turns into some kind of flame war.

@globones: Exactly. I don't have a Wii, so now I can get Muramasa on my PS3 or 360! Yaaaaaaay. See what I'm getting at?

njd09

@salmonbottle:

IM suprised people are forgetting it would control better on the Wiimote...

It uses the CONTROL PAD... which mean analog stick control isnt as good...

Which means... well are you really going to argue the merits of the 360's dpad?

its the console I play the most but it dpad is relegated to switching weapons in most games and it doesnt always do THAT right.

SaanZ

@Curse_Lily: DAMN IT LILY >_>

@Curse_Lily: From what I can tell, you're a pretty happy gal regardless.

@globones:Yes and he said Wiihaters.

@Winterbringer: Hate to say it, but that's a big deal for me. After playing in HD, it's hard to go back.

njd09

@Graham: The iphone??

Arc Rise Fantasia on real consoles!

hyourinnmaru

@Bedlam:
no he didnt... he just has none

SaanZ

@Graham:

You mean like the gamecube/classic controller..

...or the Wiimote on its side?

With an ACTUAL dpad!?!

SaanZ

@gold163: The Wii sucks, remember? It doesn't have anything worthwhile and in fact, it's not allowed anything worthwhile. It's the system that idiots on both sides of the PS3/360 fanboy belt can hate on.

Sir-Lucius has a level 93 Ubersaw

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: Sadly you probably speak the truth.

Or, equally likely IMO, is that these games will get ported and still won't sell. Let's face it, the majority of these games appeal to a niche segment of gamers, and the majority of people whining about them not being on "real" consoles aren't gonna buy them once they start showing up.

Sir-Lucius has a level 93 Ubersaw

@UltimatePancakeSensation: Versions that will have over twice the detail aren't better to you? It's much worse to pretend that the Wii experience is best despite having the weakest hardware. Only one of their games had any need for motion sensing, and could easily be remade without it, giving me everything I liked about these games before and more.

spannu

@Graham: Ha ha ha, oh wow.

The game already can be played on a Real Machine. Have we not heard of the Dolphin Emulator for PC? Works perfect on that, from what I hear.

@globones: I agree. We're going to need Star Ocean: The Last Hope, The last Remnant, and Infinite Undiscovery on PS3. I've seen the game from watching the 360 video, very impressed and think "they need to make a PS3 version of this game".

mdo7

@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: I didn't say anything about the 360. I just want it on a high definition system, without wigglesticks. PC, 360, PS3, I don't give a crap. The game looks incredible.

And by all means they should. Since making more money is never a bad thing / more exposure.

@란:

Its not that people hate the games, they hate the system.

dumb. ass.

@UltimatePancakeSensation: I do have to admit, Muramasa on a washing machine would kick just so much ass.

@Nslick: I was debating last night whether the Dreamcast or the 360 were the loudest. I almost pulled out my DC to settle it.

@Graham: You know, it's funny, people complain all the time about the Wii not having any games. Then once the Wii gets a few games to be jealous of, people start attacking the console... even more. Can't you just be happy with your own exclusives? If you want to see Muramasa on a real machine, then I suggest you go play it on the Wii; it's a real enough machine anyway.

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: But now they are HD!

Winterbringer

This is the beginning of the end for Nintendo.

Edgar Omar

VanillaWare + Team ICO = the biggest one-two punch of artistic design on the PS3 in the gaming industry :D

Muramasa on 360 pleaaaaaase Muramasa on 360.

I own a Wii but I would much rather have it in HD with achievements and a better controller on my main system I actually take to school with me.

salmonbottle

@spannu: That's an idiotic and ethnocentric point of view.

@spannu:

Is that why a lot of people consider the Dreamcast the best gaming machine yet?

Mine has sounded like it was going to take off and launch ever since I got it.

Nslick

@spannu: I guess the 360 is the only real machine this gen.

@Graham: Like a washing machine?

Whatever gets you off.

I have play all Vanillaware games(PS2,PSP,DS)so if there's a Muramasa port for the PS360 then i'll be pretty damn happy ^_^

No more heroes is my favorite game for the wii, and I would rebuy it in a second for the ps3.
I wish these games would sell, but a lot of the basic wii crowd doesn't really seem to care about them.

(In before ten guys tell me they are the wii crowd and they care about them.)

I might give Muramasa a try if it comes on PS3. Read into it whatever you want, but I have all the systems, but I honestly just don't like playing the Wii. My kids don't even play it anymore since I got them a 360 last Christmas.

Mihos

I plan on getting both games for the Wii.

Muramasa would do well to be ported over to the other platforms especially since it doesn't take advantage of the Wii's unique controls.

NMH 2, however, is a different story. What made the original game so much fun were the motion controlled finisher moves. Taking those out of the picture for the game to be ported over would make it not nearly as satisfying to play.

Killer7

Please, Oh Please bring Muramasa: TDB to the PS3/360.

I planned to buy it regardless (when it releases on the Wii,) but if it's coming for the other platforms I'd hold off.

The game looks fantastic.

@Mister_CrazyGuy:

Eh. More like the creators of the Wii games want those Wii games to be on consoles because they're not making money on the Wii.

NyappyHeroism

WOW NMH was one of the few reasons for me to buy a wii other traditional mario games. This is awesome I hope marvelous will get the sells that it deserves and not go bankrupt making games for the ps3 and 360. maybe they could make them psn and xbl ports to save some bucks.

Ether02

I bet the majority of the people here own Wii's and didn't buy these games, and will buy them for the other systems and love them, even though they would of loved them for the Wii.

Whew, now that all the Wii's good games could be coming to other consoles, that small bit of regret onto which I was holding after selling my Wii just feels like it's floating away.

Thecenturyslayer

@Mister_CrazyGuy: As far as I'm concerned, these were just PS3/Xbox games that got lost and finally found their way back home. I'd buy them all twice if I had to.

spannu

I have Muramasa pre-ordered for the Wii. But I would perhaps be tempted for a PS3/Xbox360 version as well if it was different enough.

Turael

@Graham: Like a gaming PC?

homernoy

@Nslick: Have you ever seen all three consoles next to each other? If it can't make more noise than a vacuum, then it's not a real machine. End of discussion.

spannu

well, we've got one Japanese publisher thinking and planning rationally. Now its time for Square Enix to start putting some games out on PS3.

hahaha! now wiihaters are so happy to hear this. ironic isnt it

@Bedlam: forgot a "hope" there

Bedlam

@Archaotic: No More Heroes would really benifit from being on the PS3/XBOX. such a good game. The motion controls weren't to vital to the enjoyment of it all too.

@Graham: they make imaginary machines now? damn. i just might have to sell my invisible dog to get one

@Graham:

It already was on a real machine. Are we now doubting that the Wii is a machine? It has everything to qualify as one.

Nslick

I love the role reversal. Wii owners always want PS3 and Xbox360 games, but now the other side wants Wii games. lol.

Mister_CrazyGuy

Everything besides no more heroes is just icing on the cake

stoneteen

see! now everyone is happy! if you keep this up, fanboys might disappear though ahaha

Yes yes, please do so. I'll buy all your stuff in a heartbeat.

MellowB

I'd buy Muramasa! Let's they'll port that game.

Bedlam

I would LOVE to see Muramasa on a real machine.

A PS3 version of Arc Rise Fantasia or No More Heroes? Count me in. I loves me some No More Heroes.

Not to mention Suda himself said NMH is done with the Wii after NMH2 comes out.