Pay-Per-P Pricing Fading From Xbox Video Marketplace?
Two months ago, we reported that some video content on the Xbox Live Video Marketplace was priced high. 720 points ($9 USD) for a one hour 720p video. That’s changed, a little.
It seemed like the prices for Ring of Honor pro wrestling and M-1 Challenge MMA series were off. But Microsoft told Kotaku that they were not typos. HD Net, the network that puts them on, did not offer us an explanation.
Two months later, those prices have been dropped for Ring of Honor, but not for the MMA show.
Old ROH pricing (which looked suspiciously like someone put the resolutions of the clips in the price column):

New ROH pricing (which is still higher than than the 160/240points SD/HD seen for shows like ABC’s Lost):

The new prices convert to $US4 for SD and $US6 for HD, for an hour of programming.
I had checked the prices a couple of weeks ago, and they had not yet changed. Thanks to reader Ravi for noticing that they finally dropped.
Pay-Per-P pricing lingers, but it’s lost at least one foothold.
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@Batmantis: Shaw carries HDnet in Winnipeg...
Chris Comstock
Pay-per-P is a misleading turn of phrase. The "p" in 720p or 480p denotes that the video is progressive instead of interlaced (720i or 480i). The numbers denote horizontal pixels, not how many "p" a video has.
SirDanF
@LeepNasty: Actually you can get the episodes on youtube, they get uploaded legally about a week after it airs
Oasx
Do people seriously buy / rent video on xbox marketplace? I rented two movies out of desperation, but it really never was and never will be worth it.
The only way I can see it being worth it is a subscription service with unlimited downloads.
@darkcharger: Just let Tokyo Gore Police fill the void.
They still release video content on the Xbox Live Marketplace? Thanks to NXE I had no idea.
Does it still take a half a day to download a HD movie over cable modem- oh wait... I forgot: I have Netflix on my 360 so I don't care.
ring of honor is garbage...plus i can watch wwe for "free" with the cable I already pay for.
Anthony Gallotello
@salmonbottle: What are you talking about? If you buy something in XBL you can use it on any 360. I've watched bought shows on other 360s before.
Tempting, really. But I think I'd rather buy a game than an hour of TV.
@Trevor Green:
u said it
"Blue Ray"
I noticed that the Stephen Sodherberg film "The Girlfriend Experience" is no longer 1200 or 1600 points, as it was initially, down to a more reasonable 480 for HD, 320 for SD... Why was that film priced at what I would consider a purchase price, for a rental (on horrible restrictive terms for a digital rental, but that's another subject)
FYI the RoH shows are on the Playstation store also in 480p for the normal $2. What does M$ have to say about that?
@Kalapusa:
I too have Netflix but their instant catalog is rather incomplete. Such a service offered by Microsoft will give me access to other content immediately.
@Alucrid: Yes this is how I watch TV. TNA Impact, WSOP, Life, Smallville, Terminator, How I Met Your Mother, and Chuck last year. I had to get 24 and Dollhouse on the Playstation Store.
@LeepNasty: If I didn't get HDNet, I would too.
I wouldn't pay for ROH but why isn't this even available on Xbox Live Canada? We get HD Net.
The sad thing about this is that in many cases it costs as much to buy the movie as it is to rent it off Xbox's service. Spider-Man 2, Terminator 3 and many others are in the $5 bin at Wal-Mart's across the country. Hell, even Quantum of Solace is already $10.
Buying videos on the XBOX Marketplace is a complete rip off. You're paying full price to rent. Those videos are forever locked to your XBOX. At least if you buy them on iTunes you can transfer the license to any computer from any company. That makes it seem a little bit more like you own the video, but I don't see the point in "buying" from iTunes, either.
As long as DRM exists, digital distribution is only good for renting. Unless you're buying games, which will be forever locked to whatever system you buy them for anyway. (XBOX games won't play on PS3, but a DVD will play on both)
I really want to know who buys movies on the XBOX Marketplace. I can't imagine they're actually making money from this....?
salmonbottle
@dagamer34:
Well, I think XBLM have Lost episodes up the day after they air on TV, while Netflix is allowing you to rent the DVDs months after the show came out, no? So you are paying more on XBLM but you get to enjoy them right after they air. Seems like a fair trade.
What I would like tough is to be able to watch it right away and not own it, to reduce the price. I'd love to throw away my cable subscription by renting episodes 1$ a pop. Problem is I watch about 7 or 8 TV shows during the year (some 12 episodes, some 20+, some as low as 6) and it doesn't become cost effective to buy them on XBLM or Zune Marketplace.
fronsac
@njd09: Got My Dillies on the Pepa Tane!
@njd09: Wa-da-ta!
@darkcharger: Well, I rented Pootie Tang, and it was the best two bucks I've ever spent.
njd09
$10 for a month of Netflix gets you more than ANY pay per download service there is. I just don't see the value in these kinds of business models when it costs so much for EACH piece of content!
ROH shows are only broadcast on HDNet, which I personally don't get with my cable. Thus, I'd gladly pay $4 for a show. This is different from Lost, to use Totilo's example, which is on free network TV that most everyone receives.
LeepNasty
Pay for p was a coincidence, not a policy. All HD videos have cost 1.5x the SD cost. So when a 480p video happened to be 480 points, the 720p video was 720 points (480 x 1.5). Now that the 480p video is 320 points, the 720p video is 480 points (320 x 1.5). Even movies which have 1080p versions are 1.5x the SD cost. This holds true for TV shows as well (240p HD, 160p SD).
Jamieson Sheffield
@darkcharger: I have one on 360. It's called Netflix.
@Altima NEO: He was talking about compared to the price of renting a blue ray. Buying one would be more expensive than this but yeah you'd get to watch it more.
xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
People...people buy videos from the Xbox Live Marketplace? (Netflix isn't included.)
Alucrid
@Trevor Green: Blu-Rays and games can be pricey to rent, but you do get the full package on a physical copy (special features, multiple audio tracks, etc. in the case of DVDs and Blu-Rays), even if it's for a limited amount of time.
What I've experienced so far with downloadable movies and TV episodes on the Playstation Store is that you just get the basic footage with nothing else attached, so prices on those should be lower. There's no hard copy and you can't transfer what you download sometimes. I'm not sure how it is with Xbox Video Marketplace though.
@BlueToast likes parenthises.: On top of that, when you buy the bluray, you OWN the disc, and can view it on any bluray player you want.
With the video marketplace, you can only watch it on the xbox. Paying that much for something that limited sucks.
Altima NEO
If Microsoft were a bit smarter, they would opt for a subscription service with unlimited download/streaming. Until then, I am not buying a single show from their video service.
I don't need to own all these shows. I just need to watch them once and move on. If I wanted to buy them, I would buy them on Blu-Ray or DVD.
@Trevor Green: Yeah, but you usually get a lot more stuff on a blu-ray.
Still...that's not worth it either.
@KillerBee: really? because to rent a bluray from movie gallery it cost that much so i don't think its that big of a deal.
Trevor Green
I guess I'll go back to not paying for these videos on my invisible 360 with Natal.
*proceeds to jump around room*
Sincerely,
Jack Thompson, CEO of the Anti-Wrestling Federation
No shit they dropped the price. That was WAY too high.....and it still is.