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Religious Video Games Get Church-Centric Website From Left Behind

Church-goers will soon have their very own “inspirational” gaming portal thanks to the backing of Left Behind Games.

When it launches later this month the website will feature the entire line of post-apocalyptic Left Behind Games titles will be featured on the site as well as hundreds of other family-friendly games, according to Inspired Media Entertainment.

“The company’s goal is to establish an affiliate network with at least one percent of the churches — just 3,000 — that would produce an average sales of 50 games per church a year within three years,” said Left Behind Games CEO Troy Lyndon. “This alone would generate supplemental revenue of $US3 million a year, but more importantly, will provide parents with a healthy alternative for their children.”

Lyndon says that a portion of the profits from the site would be given to the churches as an incentive for them to encourage their congregations to go to the Inspired Media online store. So think of it as a sort of holy pyramid scheme.

Left Behind Games hopes to establish an affiliate network with at least 3,000 churches nationwide, with hopes that they would sell on average 50 games per a church a year. That would end up pulling in about $US3 million a year, Lyndon says.

“In contrast to almost all other PC games, Inspired Media games encourage positive decisions and actions,” Lyndon said. “Rather than the usual ‘winning’ by using weapons and killing the enemy, players are rewarded when their characters use the power of influence to bring about good rather than destruction.”

I guess all of that heathen killing in the original Left Behind game doesn’t count.

Eventually, Lyndon hopes to get his games placed in prisons for rehabilitative purposes.

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  • I always applaud games that encourage positive decisions. But this is a very new company treading nearly uncharted water–I hope they do a LOT of research before they make their next product, lest they end up sending the wrong messages.

  • What “heathen killing?” Can anyone provide any proof of such assertions? I mean real proof, not some nitwit’s claims on the Talk To Action website.

  • joshfigueroa

    As a liberal minded catholic, I'm going to add a line made famous by Warhammer 40,000; "Beware the Alien, the Mutant, the HERETIC." Left Behind as a series and concept need to be left behind. It makes practicing Christian people look crazy, inept and over obsessed with the apocalypse. My favorite and only religious game is Dawn of War from Relic as inspired by the Warhammer 40,000 concept created by Games Workshop. It's brilliant.

  • Cimmerian76

    @Slagathorian: I gree with you on this point. Completely. However, we still see "the opiate of the masses" being used to ill effect. No opiate, no effect. As you have pointed out, it's hard to stab someone without motivation. I don't believe for a second that doing away with religion would end all wars. I do believe however, that without a be-all-end-all belief system, people would be more likely to question their leaders. My argument is born of a desire for rational thought.

    I'm still not sure how a leader targeting a particular belief system for extermination can be deemed non-religious. Hitler, although not religious in upbringing, praised Christian Heritage and professed a belief in an Aryan Christ who fought against the Jews. Regardless of his personal motivations, he was more than happy to use established dogma to sway people to his way of thinking.

    Religion is a concept, not an inanimate object. Like any thought process it can be corrupted, misplaced, or misused. Most evolutionary biologists would argue that religion behaves more like a bacteria than a static object. It travels through generations, mutates, divides, and it can both help and hinder the organism it is attached to.

  • 0xC001D00D

    mmmh... the only game with religious themes that was lots of fun was Postal 2

  • Slagathorian

    @Phydeaux: I love Halo, so I'm not attacking your analogy. But you do know the difference between killing and murder right?

  • 0xC001D00D

    @Courteous_Gentleman: that was Quake, on the Ziggurat Vertigo level there's Jesus :D

  • Slagathorian

    @PulpZero: AND BIG BROTHER IS ALL ABOUT WATCHING US! AND GEORGE BUSH PLANNED 9/11 AND FLU SHOTS ARE REALLY MIND CONTROL DEVICES!!!

    ro-sham-bo

  • Slagathorian

    @ex_nihilo: I've never played the game so I couldn't comment. But if its any way like how Mario "kills" goomba's, then I'm not worried.

  • jamBot

    Good luck with that, because ALL bible games suck. It's just a "cash-in" to religious idiots who know nothing about games. They buy these POS games thinking, "I'm saving my child from the boogie-man", or whatever.

    Yeah, there's nothing like being singled out at school when all your friends are playing, "Kill me, Kill me 13" while you're stuck with, "Sunday Funday".

  • tauromachine

    @Brain.wav: Clearly, you could only have won if you played as the Believers. Then you could never lose, right?

    tauromachine

  • Slagathorian

    @Piccoroz: Its not so much a pyramid scheme as it is: You peddle our garbage, and we'll give you a commission.

  • Skyman747

    @lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci:
    Boss Level: L.A.

    Skyman747

  • Falcon

    @Phydeaux: I was at their last show ever in Denver, Colorado. That was an amazing time. (I also have every single one of their albums. Had hopes for Guerrilla Rodeo, Roper is/was alright but meh)

    Great band, but they were shunned by parts of the Christian community for having the guts to tackle uncomfortable (i.e. important) issues.

  • TwoLaneBlackTop

    @Strom Thurmond: "If Being Left is Wrong, I Don't Want to be Right" was my favorite

  • Methusalah

    @Slagathorian: Calibretto please.

  • BobbleheadUK

    @Phydeaux:
    See, I was thinking the same.
    They needed a better selection imo.
    Bands that came to mind:
    Newsboys
    Audio Adrenaline
    The Waiting
    Third Day
    OC Supertones

    Even newer bands:
    The Devil Wears Prada
    Agraceful
    As I Lay Dying
    stuff like that for the kids'/teens' music taste of today.

  • Slagathorian

    @PulpZero: The bible is also a history book. Because it describes wars and despicable acts, doesn't mean it condones them.

  • Falcon

    @ex_nihilo: Unfortunately, most Christian/non-Christian "discussions" sound like a "PS3 vs. 360" debate: raving fanboys spouting non-sense at each other with logic nowhere to be found.

  • Slagathorian

    @Cimmerian76: WW2 was not a religious war. But you do bring up an interesting point about history that I think everyone should know. Religion is often used as a motivator for war. But is usually never the cause. It is used incorrectly and immorally by those leading the war to promote a sense of justification amount the country/army. Its hard to convince your troops to sneak onto someones land, and stab the woman and men who occupy that land just because you think it a prime piece of real estate. (your troops will never see a piece of it anyway) So you lie to them, and tell them that God wills it. That you are fighting the heathens, that your eternal salvation depends on you murdering innocents. That God spoke to our religious leaders in a dream etc.

    Religion is often pegged as the reasons for war, and like I said, it is rarely so. Land is most often the reason for war, is land evil? would the would be better off without land? Can we really place the blame for war on land? Land is no more guilty of war than Religion is. Both are inanimate objects, that people use as justification for their corrupt actions.

  • ex_nihilo

    @Slagathorian: You are aware that the Left Behind games are, in fact, violent? "Convert or Kill" is not a good message for any child.

  • wadeanderson

    @lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci: LOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • PulpZero

    @Sacchinftw: lol

  • PulpZero

    @MPSai: Dude, didn't you get the memo? Christianity isn't really about helping people. It's about making money. Lots and lots of money. Well, at least for the high ranking Christians who can manipulate their flock...

  • Sacchinftw

    @worsethannormal: No because it helps differentiate from Raptor Jesus.

  • Phydeaux

    @mrantimatter: The Old Testament is ridiculously violent. I even recall a story of a woman of the Lord taking a spike tent to a man that took sexual advantage of her and driving it through his skull. And let's not forget Samson - killed thousands with his bare hands, all with the smile of approval of the Lord.

    But nope. We can't have Master Chief killing aliens attacking him. Nope nope.

  • Slagathorian

    @Slagathorian: *tone

  • Slagathorian

    @OctaneHugo: Its actually pretty low to insult a persons belief system. Its kind of akin to making fun of their mom. Its just something that should be off-limits. Especially on a gaming blog. Call it hypocrisy all you want, but did you not just insult me in your post above, while complaining that I had insulted someone else?

    Oh how hypocrisy runs rampant these days.

  • worsethannormal

    @Phydeaux: Glad to hear that. Christians with a fixation on the end times scare the living crap out of me. Especially the glint they get in their eye when talk about the suffering and megadeaths of the "unsaved". I mean, I don't care if you have a death wish, just don't involve me in it. I'd rather focus on life than hope for, not only my own demise, but the deaths of nearly every man woman and child on this planet and rejoice in it.

    worsethannormal

  • PulpZero

    @mrantimatter: Precisely. There is way more violence in the bible than most video games Then again, if you ask someone to act rationally when they believe in talking snakes, an ark that can hold every "kind" of animal, and a diety that would sacrifice himself to himself to make the world a better place... well, don't be surprised when they don't act rationally.

  • Piccoroz

    @Dragooncancer: it will be build on the pyramid scheme, so it will still be evil.

  • Slagathorian

    @lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci: Yes, because ton travels so well on the internet

    /sarcasm.

  • Falcon

    @Slagathorian: I'm not entirely sure what angelzero was implying by his statement, but he's right, healthy =/= religious.

    Most of us here definitely do not want kids exposed to certain things before they're ready. You'll find no disagreement from me on that. I'm all for them having healthy gaming choices to enjoy.

    As long as the religious games are healthy choices for them, then great, I'm glad parents have that option. However, if they're not because of the game's contents (e.g. bigotry), you can be sure I'm going to call it out.

    Religion can be a very healthy thing, but religion does not necessarily equal healthy. Communities of people who help each other and humanity out and have high moral standards are a good thing. However, closed-minded, insular groups are not. From the background I've had (growing up as a preacher's kid in a very conservative Southern Baptist community), the latter group are the ones that would be buying the types of games this group will produce. I hope I'm wrong. I don't want kids playing GTAIV, but I don't want them playing something like the original Left Behind either because their parents think it's okay since it's "religious".

  • worsethannormal

    @Mister_CrazyGuy: Isn't saying Zombie Jesus redundant?

    worsethannormal

  • Phydeaux

    @Joseph Goforth: Oh, I agree. I feel that the Tribulation, the entire point of it, is to oppress Christianity for sticking their nose politically where it didn't belong. We reap what we sow. We don't get to make a mess and then God rescue us from it... it's not how it works.

  • Cimmerian76

    @Slagathorian: Hitler was definitely a fanatic. He believed he was Charlemagne reborn, and was on a mission from God. Wilhelm at an early age believed he was designated for monarchy by the grace of god.

    No, not everyone with a belief in a higher power is a fanatic. Nor is every fanatic religious. However, as someone with a more than passing interest in history, I've been able to determine a few things about wars. Wars are fought over property of beliefs. Often, beliefs are used to motivate a populace into taking up arms.

    I do however think that anyone who believes that their religion is the one true religion, and denies anyone at all from believing whatever they choose to is a fanatic.

    Peace in this world will not be gained through divisive thoughts. Stop thinking "us and them", and start thinking "us". Honestly, I have no problem with people who go to church. I actually appreciate it when my friends who do believe in Christ approach me about it. If they love me enough to want to save my immortal soul, it is an honor. I'm still not going to believe in it, or follow it, but I respect the gesture. My friends however do not persecute me for my thoughts. To them, it is okay NOT to be religious. They don't agree with my choices, nor I theirs, but we can all still be good people.

    Practice what you want. Proselytize if you want. But don't use force. That's where the fanatics go wrong.

  • worsethannormal

    @Slagathorian: "Only games with nudity are evil. The ones with copious amounts of killing and laughable gender stereotypes are ok."

    There, Fixed. I downloaded the demo for one the left behind games, and not only was it a piece of crap (the unit models wouldn't load), but, to my surprise, the "units" you could aquire could only do "jobs" that "matched" their gender. So you "save" a person and they become one of your "units" and now you can give them a job like construction worker or nurse, but only male units can work in construction and only female units can be nurses. I didn't realize there were people who honestly still thought like that, but ... well, exhibit A.

    worsethannormal

  • Joseph Goforth

    @Phydeaux: Too bad Rapture isn't even in the bible. :\ (that's what the left behind series deals with). the concept of rapture is a quite more recent idea for christianity. but on topic..this makes me wonder how long before we get a left behind themed mod for left 4 dead. .>'

    Joseph Goforth

  • Slagathorian

    @Phydeaux: Oh and I completely forgot about 38th Parallel. Easily the greatest Christian band on the planet.

  • Phydeaux

    @DaFron: Whoa, good point. There is NO Third Day in that list. Even though I'm not a huge fan, I do believe that things like Consuming Fire and Wire would be great plays.

  • Tye-The-Czar

    @Strom Thurmond: "I thought ALL Religions were a path to God! I was wrong!"
    "Why! Why did I choose to be Gay?!"

    Tye-The-Czar

  • Aparanoidandroi

    @Slagathorian: all you have to do is take out these words and put..."jesus!"

    Aparanoidandroi

  • PulpZero

    @Phydeaux:

    NIN - Heresy
    Manson - Cake and Sodomy

    At least, that's what I listened to in my youth group days...

  • NeVeRMoRe666

    @Phydeaux: P.S. Good luck getting in touch with them. I would much rather have someone who knows games (as you obviously do) and is passionate about their belief than someone who seems to want to pigeon-hole an entire belief system into a game while obviously having little to no respect for the medium.

  • Syftx2

    @Phydeaux: Couldn't agree more to you and Monkey Chunks.

  • Phydeaux

    @Spiffyness: You're mocking me, aren't you.

    I don't think it's so much of a secret that I love FIF more than anything else that has been conceived by the minds of man in this world.

    Playing the bass alone would make me a happy man. Doing 3rd World Think Tank on drums would make me cry with delight. Singing anything with Reese Roper as the front man would mean that I wouldn't touch any other rhythm game ever again.

  • gd01skorpius

    It's easy to laugh off, but I'm very concerned about how much traction these games may eventually get. Sure now they are totally totally lame, and even teens from the westborough baptist church would agree. It is likely however, that with enough practice and funding that we might actually start seeing quality products. Imagin a kid coming home from his friends house after playing War of God 3, and begging his parents to buy it for him so he can kill some gays.

  • Syftx2

    @DaFron: Someone beat me to it. I was going to mention 3rd Day myself. Saw them awhile back and was a great show. I would probably also go with Casting Crowns as well. P.O.D should be in there somewhere as well as on Rock Band.

    I had some friends over playing Rock Band awhile back and they wanted more Christian Music as DLC, if they got country, then some Christian DLC could also be included.

    My primary issue with Christian media as a whole when they do videogames, television programming or some sort of other media production is usually low budget and extremely poorely produced and put together. I mean if your trying to present yourself wouldn't you want to look good?

  • Slagathorian

    @NeVeRMoRe666:
    I love you Jesus
    I want you to walk with me
    I'll take good care of you baby
    Call you my baby, BABY
    your love, is my life
    you know when I'm without you
    there's a dark whole in my life OH
    I wanna believe, its alright
    but I get lonely in the night
    and its up to you, to save me
    JESUS BABY!

    Its actually a very catchy song.

  • OctaneHugo

    @Slagathorian: I find it hilarious that you, acting as the self-righteous be-all-end-all of the conversation, wrote an opening sentence insulting angel as anti-social and incapable of getting a girlfriend. Oh how hypocrisy runs rampant these days.

  • lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

    @Slagathorian: Have you still not realized that my entire post was a joke? :(

    lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

  • Teira

    @Malfunktion v2: Sounds like half of the first Call of Juarez.

    Teira

  • Spiffyness

    @Phydeaux: Just make the whole game Five Iron Frenzy and map the brass solos to the note chart. Even better, make a Rock Band ripoff so we can all sing along with Reese Roper... two octaves low!

  • sentroshi

    @OoBaSNoRk:
    Uhh, ass?

  • Slagathorian

    @lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci: no, no I don't think so.

  • Slagathorian

    @MPSai: Its clear you've never played the left behind games or read the books. Which makes you a douche for commenting negatively on them when you have less than the slightest idea about the ideologies present. But you and lolgreg COMPLETELY missed the point about what I wrote. And you are the ones who replied to me.

    I am ALSO fine with my kids playing Halo. Because I know what Halo is about. Space marines shooting aliens with funny voices and purple ooze coming out. But I would not let them play GTA until is becomes appropriate to their age. Is that so hard to understand? A 5 year old should be playing kid friendly games. And I can't comment on the left behind games, because I never played them, but I read the books, and there is lots of killing in them, but if you understand the context, is isn't as bad as the killing in Manhunt 2.

  • RabidWombat

    Wait... used for rehabilitation in prisons? Aren't these religious games? Cause I'm pretty sure there's some law against prisons religiously indoctrinating their inmates (read: the first amendment)

    RabidWombat

  • DaFron

    @Phydeaux: I know they're not as hard as the other bands that have been mentioned, but I think Third Day would be a good fit for some Southern Rock. Otherside, their track with the Robert Randolph would be a lot of fun.

    DaFron

  • retrocalypse

    Don't preach to me in my video games and I won't teabag you in your church.

  • mrantimatter

    I don't get this violence thingy, I mean, the bible was filled with it. Heck, they all flocked to see passion, and it was a 2 hour torture film.

    mrantimatter

  • Slagathorian

    @MPSai: You're right it isn't; which means the store will more than likely also stock Mario.

  • Slagathorian

    @MonkeyChunks: There aren't that many religious games out there, so unless they want their store to have like 3 games, my guess is that they will have games like Viva Pinata, and Professor Layton, Brain Age, Cooking Mama etc.

  • MPSai

    @Slagathorian: So you don't want to mess up your kids but you'd be perfectly fine with letting them play a game that pretty much puts across the message that its okay to SHOOT anyone with a different ideology than you just because its "religious"? Yeah I don't see how that would possibly mess them up.

  • Courteous_Gentleman

    I don't see why this is necessary. Doom is the best christian game i've ever played.

    Courteous_Gentleman

  • Slagathorian

    @Cimmerian76: And just old regular fanaticism has done the world any better?

    See WW1 and WW2

    Or is every person who believes in a higher power a fanatic?

  • NeVeRMoRe666

    @Phydeaux: I wouldn't mind a little "Faith + 1"

  • Slagathorian

    @Giggers: Go to youtube
    tyle "TFK falls apart" in the search window and listen to that song.

  • lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

    @Slagathorian: Right over head

    lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

  • Slagathorian

    @Phydeaux: I keep thinking of Falls Apart by Thousand Foot Krutch. Truly that be awesome to rock out to on guitar.

  • Madeira

    @Phydeaux: MC Hammer "Pray"

  • Sean MacLean

    @Sean MacLean: is**. Damn, do we ever need an edit button...

    Sean MacLean

  • Slagathorian

    @lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci: I thought I made that very clear in my post when i said:

    "or expose them to the wrong things to soon."

    You gotta read a post before you hit the reply button.

  • Phydeaux

    @Sean MacLean: They had a bit of a falling out with The Christian Music Industrial Complex, as I like to call it. From Wiki:

    "On November 4, 2003, P.O.D. released their fifth studio album, Payable on Death, which saw the group shift from their well known rapcore sound to a darker, more melodic metal sound.[12] The album was hit with controversy due to its "occult" cover, which lead as many as 85% of Christian bookstores across the United States to ban the album"

    Petty bullshit. Of course, any artist that sticks a bee in the bonnet of Christian bookstores (like Larry Norman, Lost And Found, etc.) gets a listen from me. Perhaps I'll give them another shot.

  • Hey_Blinkon

    @Phydeaux: They don't need to segregate themselves, but it is nice to have a wider range of options to choose from. I'd bet the farm that all these games will suck, but there is nothing wrong with trying.

    Hey_Blinkon

  • Sean MacLean

    @Phydeaux: Wow, for someone who has problems taking faith-based media seriously that sort of acknowledgment does leaps and bounds. Though I was only kidding with the first post that sort of response it uncanny.

    Sean MacLean

  • Cimmerian76

    @Giggers: That quote isn't in the article, sorry, I took that quote from the film, "The God Who Wasn't There". I don't recall the exact quote, so I simply paraphrased. Either way, I dream of a world where man is united behind one another, in common goals. Religion historically only seems to cause strife.

  • Hey_Blinkon

    @Phydeaux: I love me some Five Iron.

    Hey_Blinkon

  • Kazzahdrane

    @ThursdayNext: Well done sir!

  • Phydeaux

    @waywardchemist: Yes. Which is why they would probably find a way to put it back as credit towards product.

  • Giggers

    @Cimmerian76: I don't see that quote in the article, but if so that's unfortunate.

    Giggers

  • MPSai

    "This alone would generate supplemental revenue of $3 million a year, but more importantly, will provide parents with a healthy alternative for their children"

    Haha, yeah right. So the money isn't the most important part to you and the Left Behind game where you go around shooting non-believers is healthier for kids than say... I dunno, Mario?

  • Phydeaux

    @Slagathorian: Ah, yes, KJ-52. Not heard any of his stuff since his debut album.

    Classic DC Talk beyond what they included in regards to Jesus Freak. Since they split up, I find it harder to stand any TobyMac song for more than 2 minutes at a time, but Tait has a couple of songs that would be awesome. "Spy", in particular.

    Could you imagine Skillet's Alien Youth and Earth Invasion and their sound effects being done on the plastic guitar? IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL IN MY MIND.

  • Giggers

    @Malfunktion v2: Because the Left Behind videogame was such a market success.

    Giggers

  • Burzmali

    @Phydeaux: I'd have to include All That Remains. Obviously very heavy, but they're clearly a religious-themed band. I like them regardless.

    P.O.D. seems like a clear choice, though I don't personally care for them.

    Burzmali

  • Cimmerian76

    @[www.usatoday.com]

  • Sean MacLean

    @Phydeaux: Okay, in all seriousness I'm surprised they didn't throw some P.O.D. in there. I think the best way to attract people to a rhythm game like that is to offer music that isn't necessarily faith 'based', but rather music that might reflect their morals and whatnot. Hell, even some that have nothing to do with 'praise' music could be considered, like, say, VNV Nation.

    Sean MacLean

  • Giggers

    @Phydeaux: Since the site apparently isn't out yet, we don't know what the actual store will be like. It's possible it will contain non-religious games as well. I don't think it's segregation so much as target marketing. Let's face it, a lot of parents don't have a clue the difference between Silent Hill and Professor Layton. Having a store they can be fairly certain any purchase will be okay for their kid is a good thing in my mind.

    Giggers

  • Phydeaux

    @Sean MacLean: It's interesting because there are actually Christian groups out there that perform music with a focus on things that were done wrong in the past in a hope that mistakes are never made again. Here's where it's awkward, though. Most of those performers come out of the Protestant faith while Crusades are usually laid at the feet of the Catholic faith. In the effort to not have a "speck in your brother's eye, log in yours" situation, Protestants do cite their own shortcomings by their forefathers, like dealing with Native Americans.

    Five Iron Frenzy, in particular, was big into having songs about that shameful period in history:

    [www.christianrocklyrics.com]
    [www.christianrocklyrics.com]
    [www.christianrocklyrics.com]

    "Into mass graves we've shoveled lives
    a massive pipeline for the lies
    a past so vast with genocide
    and ignorance we hide behind"

    Ah, so honest. So refreshing.

    So, no, I wouldn't actually mind some Christian artist tackling the Crusades. If only.

  • waywardchemist

    I'm not a tax lawyer but wouldn't the kickback portion of the proposed arrangement make the participating churches business partners in a commercial endeavour and violate their (likely) tax-exempt status?

  • Cimmerian76

    @Giggers: The authors of the left behind series have been quoted as saying that they can not wait for the day all the non believers are flung into a fiery hell. These are exactly the people I want influencing children. Really, religious fanaticism has done the world a ton of good.

  • Slagathorian

    @Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet Kotaku: Wow that sucks, I've never seen one in a store before. Any game in my opinion is worth 1.99$ Especially being the collector hound that I am.

    And poor sales aren't unusual for games such as those. And in my opinion, ANY licensed game is crap. Be it religious or not.

  • Cimmerian76

    @Phydeaux: Sympathy for the Devil, Devil Inside, Hallowed be thy Name, Number of the Beast...

  • DollaBill

    @Brain.wav:

    Actually there are some weapons in this up coming religious game.

    You score 9000 points for shooting an abortion doctor in the head.

    DollaBill

  • Giggers

    @Phydeaux: Switchfoot and Lifehouse are the obvious choices, though switchfoot doesn't really qualify as "Praise" music. Unfortunately I don't know of many good, non-poppy Christian bands.

    Giggers

  • lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

    @Slagathorian: Listen here, Slag. Sooner or later all of our kids are going to have to face reality, and decapitate a hooker. Wouldn't you want your kid to be prepared and ready? Or do you want him going into that situation with NO idea on how to handle it?

    You're the parent, make your call.

    lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

  • Slagathorian

    @Phydeaux: Some Skillet and TFK for sure. Some Kutless with a hit of Cross Movement, Disciple, DC talk, and KJ-52.

  • Phydeaux

    @MonkeyChunks: Well, regardless of the retail outlet, it is my opinion that Christians don't need to segregate themselves from anything further.

  • Cimmerian76

    @Brain.wav: Inquisitors were very influential. Crusaders as well. Cultists, also influential. I'll choose freewill, thanks :)

  • lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

    @7Vyse: It will be called, Interrupt the (Gay) Wedding.

    Level 1: Vermont

    lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

  • Malfunktion v2

    I'm amazed not more people have tried to dive into the obvious cash cow of christian video games. Just take the South Park model for Christian Rock by replacing the common theme of a video game and replace it with Jesus.
    Here's an example all you in-cognito developers are free to steal...
    Grand Theft Jesus: Travel throughout Purgatory City trying to spread the word of Christ. With your Arsenal of ever-increasing Bible verses you will commandeer vehicles in the name of Christ in your attempt at converting whores, drug lords, and crack-heads into loving, caring Christians.

    And if that doesn't work you can blow their heads of with your 12-gauge loaded with blessed silver bullets. Hallelujah!

  • Sean MacLean

    @Phydeaux: Immortal, duh. You know, stuff that gives them fond memories of what Christan's did during the crusades.

    Sean MacLean

  • Slagathorian

    @angelzero: oh please, maybe your anti-woman repelant is permanent and strong these days. But those of us who have managed to find a wife and are able to have kids, want games that we know aren't going to mess our kids up, or expose them to the wrong things to soon. I would be perfectly fine with letting my kids play some left behind, that doesn't make me a zealot. But i want you to understand something:
    There are ultra violent games, and there are ultra religious games. And you making fun of the religious games, puts you in the very same boat as the religious people ragging on the violent games. You've become what you hate so to speak, and to be honest, is all to typical of people like you.

  • Phydeaux

    @Sean MacLean: Hell, I'd buy it for the Bible.

    Unless the Bible is also Left Behind branded. I find the focus on Revelation rather than Jesus to be a huge turnoff.

  • MonkeyChunks

    I am a Christian church goer, and I dont think its a good idea. Those of us from church who play games, play standard good games that are available at Best Buy

  • Ghede

    @Brain.wav: As an alternate form of winning, they can
    ITEM > BibleEx
    if that fails then there is
    SPELL> STONE

  • BigWyrm

    @Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet Kotaku:
    Very nice. Thanks for making me lol.

  • lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

    @Slagathorian: We can't be giving our children the false ideas that there is nudity in real life... it just doesn't happen.

    Or maybe those games should just be rated M for Married.

    lolgreg prays to Joe Pesci

  • Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet K

    @Slagathorian:

    Sure did. I remember having them in stock in the store.

    Even discounted to 1.99, nobody wanted them. Eventually got field destroyed.

    @Phydeaux:

    And this. It was hardly a 'nonviolent christian game'. It was VERY violent in terms of 'T for Teen or M for Mature' and what a religious game should be like, with you saving the souls of the damned. Interesting concept, horrible execution and blatant disregard for anyone who belongs to any religion (or doesnt) other than Christianity. The hypocrisy was astounding.

  • Giggers

    Not a terrible idea. At the least it will provide "concerned" parents with a resource to research kid friendly games. The fact that it's run by game developers (even if they are terrible, I can't say having never tried the games) means that the game reviews will be given a fair shot.

    Giggers

  • Phydeaux

    @Slagathorian: No, but I certainly saw copies in the PC section in Gamestops.

  • OoBaSNoRk

    Take the word "Left" out of the title.

    OoBaSNoRk

  • Sean MacLean

    @Slagathorian: Oh yes, they where. I worked at a Futureshop 2 - 3 years ago and when we got those in we laughed so hard, it even included a bible in the box. To this day I still see them there, not one has sold.

    Sean MacLean

  • Brain.wav

    @angelzero: It does to zealots. AKA: those that would buy the games in the first place.

    Talk about preaching to the choir.

  • Slagathorian

    lol, i get your reference.

  • CoatedTrout

    @carrliadiere: /sarcasm

  • Slagathorian

    @Dragooncancer: Only games with nudity are evil. The ones with copious amounts of killing are ok.

  • Phydeaux

    I wonder if I can get in contact with these folk.

    Guitar Praise was horrible in song selection, in my opinion, and I'd want to do a band game with them if I could gather a team for it.

    Less RelientK, more... oh, I dunno. Staple.

    [www.guitarpraise.com]

    Matter of fact, let's talk. If you were compiling songs to sell a rhythm game to churches and youth groups, what songs would you include?

  • Slagathorian

    @Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet Kotaku: Were they? I've never even seen a left behind game on any store shelve. Did they distribute to Canada?

  • angelzero

    "will provide parents with a healthy alternative for their children"

    religious does not equal healthy
    healthy does not equal religious

    marketingspeak does, however, equal marketingspeak

    angelzero

  • Phydeaux

    @Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet Kotaku: This. Never got to try it, but I was always hoping that the games would build up a better dialogue among people and try some new ideas, be a little more provocative... ha, no.

    Same as it ever was a with a faux Christian appearance slapped on top.

  • carrliadiere

    @Brain.wav:

    Come on man, don't pretend you haven't been playing games where you get 'points' for kicking kids at prostitutes then having a first-person orgy with aliens. You videogamers and your disgusting habit.

  • Matt0505

    Should be a fun thread.

    Matt0505

  • doubtful

    No, you just winged him. Now he's a Unitarian.

  • GeneralissimoFurioso

    I have the feeling that if these games are put into prisons, the numbers of riots and flaming feces flinging will increase rather than decrease.

  • Strom Thurmond

    @ThursdayNext: Left on a Bus had an interesting lost and found mechanic, but "Left at the roundabout, straight on over the wooden bridge, if you get to "The Coach and Horses" you've gone too far"
    was by far the best.

  • ThursdayNext

    @Brain.wav: I almost certainly didn't win Civ by going into space first.

    ThursdayNext

  • Vecha: Wishing Prototype would g

    @Brain.wav:

    I guess they will pray after they kill someone too.

  • Komrade Kayce - Hero of Soviet K

    Deliciously poetic, copies of the game by the same name were 'Left Behind' on store shelves.

  • ThursdayNext

    @Strom Thurmond: Left at the roundabout, straight on over the wooden bridge, if you get to "The Coach and Horses" you've gone too far, was the definitive version for me.

    ThursdayNext

  • Nudgenudge

    @Mister_CrazyGuy: sure you can. He respawns after 3 days, that's all.

    Nudgenudge

  • Brain.wav

    "Rather than the usual 'winning' by using weapons and killing the enemy, players are rewarded when their characters use the power of influence to bring about good rather than destruction."

    *sigh*
    So, I didn't win Alpha Centauri by negotiating a planetary peace? Must have hallucinated it.

  • Mister_CrazyGuy

    Post-apocalyptic?

    Do we fight zombies? o.o
    I CAN'T FIGHT ZOMBIE JESUS.

    Mister_CrazyGuy

  • 7Vyse

    If the Church of LDS ever gets around to funding a video game, I'd expect it to be a homosexual shooter.

    ...

    Tranquilizers, of course.

    7Vyse

  • Strom Thurmond

    Left Below is better.

  • Dragooncancer

    And how can people now say video games are all evil and bad now huh... I SAID HUH!!!

    ANSWER ME DAMNIT!!

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