There Are “A Lot Of Factors” For Borderlands Demo

Everyone demanding a demo should know that I don't recall a sandbox theme game ever getting a demo and if there, then there likely was very few because I can't recall any. There is too many variables to consider when making a demo for this game. Imagine how hard it would have been making a demo for Fallout 3.

@(Zombie) Jolan:

yeah, just like fallout 3.

Well, it's not like we're in some type of economic recession, and we can just spend all the money we want on entertainment ...

Right, guys?

@hammond_egger: Can't you just watch a video review? The only one I've seen that I think got it wrong was for KZ2.

FireSketch

@Hand_O_Death: The aesthetic changes are incredible! They are what drew me in.. now I can't wait.

FireSketch

@njd09:
Probably.

@etchasketchist:
Same here. Im glad they do release demos though, i've saved quite a bit of money because of them ;D

A gameplay video seems to be asking a lot at this point.

Spiffmeister

It's probably for the same reason Fallout 3 doesn't have a demo - you need to think 'bout that.

@KaneTaker: DAT ASS

orijimi

Finish the game first, then worry about a demo.
Not every game has a demo.
I don't recall Halo3, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Far Cry 2, GTA4, or Fallout3 having demos on XBL.
I excuse this with huge open world games.

Deilgyre

Seems reasonable. Better get that game done you guys!

in time for my birthday.

MDX

@DreamDivision: Simply put. No. Wouldn't matter anyway as very few Western games ever see the light of day here.

bansama

@tony+elyarrizon: i think no demo would probably be bad for sales, unless it is a high profile game, which i dont consider Borderlands to be.

@d_r_e: Final Fantasy 7 and Blue Dragon come to mind, but I would like to know others too :P

I didn't mind the lack of a prototype demo personally, I thought that game turned out great.

samwise227

@bansama: Do you guys not live by any video stores?

DreamDivision

@HeavyMental:
agreed, but that's also exactly why putting out a demo is so crucial for them. I'm certainly not dropping $60 on a game where I don't know anything about the gameplay. really all I know right now is that someone in the game has a very nice ass.

No demo = no pre-order from me. I'll wait for reviews. And maybe end up buying a used copy.

No demo, no purchase.

Fair trade. This isn't a AAA game where I will trust in the quality and brand , this is an unknown quantity from a developer who has been inconsistant at best.

JSPOOLE

I'm not sure what he's saying, what not. He's saying stuff, at the same time he's not. There's a lot of factors there, and they need to be considered carefully. Or maybe not. I don't know, there's a lot of factors there.

Big titles don't get demoes..
No, titles not done before it's release (sometimes after) don't get a demo.

@UncleMark: there was also the ico demo that had a different answer to a puzzle in the demo version then the retail version

stoneteen

@Qix213:

That's happened before, where the game is really awesome, but the demo is shit.

@KaneTaker: I played that demo AFTER I bought the actual game. I love it when developers create demo-specific levels specially to show off all of the aspects of the gameplay. Another game that had an original demo was Jedi Outcast.

@Arepa: I'm sure that not only is the open world an issue, but the sheer number of weapons (over half a million) probably plays a role in issues with the demo. I am certainly intrigued by this game, though. I better go ahead and pre-order it!

Here is the point I have reached. Reviews mean fuck all. Community input only goes so far for me. I loathe Gamefly for their severe inabilty to actually get new fucking releases to the customer base (I just played Dead Space about a month or two ago). And so, no demo, no chance of buying. The PSN has this problem; they have few demos for their titles, whereas MS has a demo for every XBLA game. Everyone get on board the try before you buy train.

Lokicharms

@TM-Oliveira: So will I and everyone else.

njd09

Hmmmm, I don't know why, but every time I see this pic I always think of Full Throttle. You know, that bar in the beginning. Minus those dog creatures.

Its weird.

The_Red_Comet

I've been buying a lot less games lately because of a lack of demos.

@d_r_e: Especially if the demo is bad, and makes the game look worse than it is...

@salmonbottle: yeah same here, there have been a number of games I hadn't even considered, but then an awesome demo and I get the game. I would have never played CoD4 if it wasn't for the beta, i just signed up because it was free, but then it was awesome, I don't normally even like military shooters. Not that there aren't cases that go the other way too, uhg... Bionic Commando. Demos are such great advertising, you make a great game and it shows in a demo more than it ever could in a video.

Kill-Face

The only GOOD reason not to put out a demo is because it will hurt sales. If you think you've got a good game, you should do everything in your power to get a demo out.

Personally, I don't need a demo. As long as the game remotely delivers on this "like Fallout 3 4-player co-op; shooter first, RPG second" business, I am sold.

That is, like, all I fucking want in a game. And these guys sound really enthusiastic in the interview. I almost forgive them for taking a cheap swing at Bungie and IW a little back.

I remind a time when ALL the big pc games had demos and every magazine was filled every month with a shitload of games demos to try and every game site had the relative demo to download... now an AAA title with a demo is big stuff.

It was like the standard thing... seems like gamers forget about those times. or maybe today gamers are mostly console owners, on console it wasn't like that

@excel_excel: probably the same reason for no farcry 2 demo. too much to do for a free demo.

buckeyes75

You can always try before you buy. Its called renting or borrowing the game. If a company wont put out a demo i always rent first. Just makes sense with the cost of games nowadays.

-itis

@puresewas1de:

I believe those are her chaps, at least I think they are called chaps... cowboys wore them a lot, usually made of leather and went over their pants to protect them from getting scrapped up while roughing it on horseback and rocky/rugged(sp?) terrain.

Turning Point learnt the hard way.

mzo

Oh, and I forgot to mention, but the game looks gorgeous.

This comments have a lot of a lot of factors.

@excel_excel:
Gearbox: "Demos? We ain't got no demos. We don't need no demos! I don't have to show you any stinkin' demos."

Not a problem. I'll download it illegally and try it out before spending any money on it.

This game is still very iffy IMHO so a demo would help me decide if it is worth having or not. Otherwise I will probably skip it until I get around to renting it unless of course it ends up being favorably reviewed by the few reviewers I trust.

@Arepa: He's unsure of a demo because it is an open world game. They just don't know exactly what to put into the demo.

@Cursa: A lot of factors.

CombatDispenser

Demos usually convince me to not buy a game. I don't know why publishers even bother.

Love those factors

MikoKeZ

Just please get the game out on time.

A demo can KILL a game. Just look at Fight Night Round 4. It is selling horribly. Which is actually not bad because the game is horrible.

UsernameOfTheDead

@hot_heart: Oh ok. Thanks. And yes that is an attractive looking ass.

puresewas1de

Well, there are a lot of factors in my factors of factors of purchasing this game.

...What?

@Gossy loves yo' mamma's flapjacks: This is going to be the newest meme.

Oh well, I love demos but I was going to buy this game day one anyway.

D0RC

I'm on the fence about this game and a demo would reeeeally help. The Red Faction demo got me to buy the game where before I hadn't even bothered to pay attention to it.

salmonbottle

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm....... that ass never gets old. Am I right? Anyone?

PunkyChipsAhoy

@tony+elyarrizon: Agreed, even though I'm already planning on buying this anyway.

Unplugged

@puresewas1de: No. Those are cowboy-style chaps (do a google image search). Then the straps there must just be part of the gun holster.

Honestly, with such an over saturated market and the focus on online everything, I feel like devs need to try to get demos out for every game they release. Maybe it's just nostalgia or all the drugs getting to my brain, but I feel like there were more demos for games 5-10 years ago than there are now. Which is the opposite of how it should be. And even if there weren't I feel like we're at a point where more games should be releasing demos, even if it's after launch. Looking back on the past few years, demos were what got me to buy games like Valkyria Chronicles, Mirror's Edge, Skate, and Killzone 2. And I know in the past the demos for games like Brave Fencer Musashi and Metal Gear Solid games that came packaged with other games guaranteed a future purchase from me.

Sir-Lucius has a level 93 Ubersaw

@puresewas1de:

Snake Boots.

@The Forgetful Brain: Those're a lot of factors to factor in.

factors : do you put all MILLIONS of guns in the demo ? do you limit the # of guns in the demo ? can you really just break the system for getting only a small # of guns ?

it's close to an open world game ... do you only give one section for doing one mission in the demo, but there won't be running around, not giving the real feel of the game ... if you give 1 mission, people will want a city to trade in items, even if it's a demo

it's complicated for an rpg, even more for this type of game, a type that is totally new

HeavyMental

@KaneTaker: Yeah, you like that ass, huh? Yeah, that's definite ass.

Sweet ass.

I am so pumped for Borderlands. I have been planning to rent it before I buy it, just to check it out, but if they release a demo then I could just skip that step all together!

But really I think a lot of us are anxious try it out as soon as possible.

Vorpal

@DraconisXC: I agree. Like most games this will be a no demo no purchase affair. So, Gearbox, if you'd like a shot at getting some of my money, you should put out a demo =)

bansama

@KaneTaker: True. But are those her boots so up her legs though?

puresewas1de

@Gossy loves yo' mamma's flapjacks: Tee-hee.

So (probably) going to buy this though.

Possibly.

If I have money. Time. Food.

The Forgetful Brain

@Hand_O_Death: Pfft a demo on the PS3 excuse me for a sec....

（‐＾▽＾‐） AHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!

I really like that screenshot. The rendering is so very...*ahem*...attractive.

KaneTaker

@(Zombie) Jolan: Well, a demo done right can REALLY sell me on a game. Take Half Life 1 for example. Had heard of it but did not know much about it. That demo sold me HARD.

KaneTaker

@Hand_O_Death: well to be fair demos CAN be hard to do for big games, so if they really do have a bunch of other things they need to focus on ironing out, I understand. I have played and enjoyed plenty of games, sans demos.

@tony+elyarrizon:

EXACTLY.

Forget a demo. Just make a well polished game.

chromegnome

@excel_excel: Because there are a lot of factors. A lot of factors.

(Zombie) Cursa

@(Zombie) Jolan: Which is the only thing that scares me on why they wouldn't release a demo at all.

PS3 Demo Please. I have kept my eye on this one for years, and even through the asthetic changes, it still can be a good game.

I think about buying your game every day. I would love to buy your game. There's obviously factors there.

So, why not just do a demo then?? Like most PC games have??

if you are not sure about a demo, then he is not sure about the game itself, factors....

dont get me wrong i do want to play borderlands; day 1 purshase so far

There are "a lot of factors" for my buying this game, Gearbox. One of them is a demo. Hop to it.

DraconisXC

well if you think about it everyday just do it!

I really want the game, but a demo would cement my decision (unless it sucked).

I guess I would rather have them polish the final game instead of rushing to get a demo out early. An eventual demo sure would be appreciated though.

tony+elyarrizon

dat ass

sirmarcelot

@Xcite79: Saints Row, Crackdown, InFamous, Red Faction Guerrilla, Just Cause, Mercenaries 2, Two Worlds, and Test Drive Unlimited are some big open world games that have demos.

It is very possible to do, but I hope Gearbox waits until the game is launched to worry about a demo. I am buying it day one with or without a demo so I just want the game out now. lol

wired_fenix

@Curse_Lily: Trolling much? There's a lot of factors. Remember.

dajman311