Sonic Adventure DX Getting Another Remake?

@Kyattsuai: I'm usually a rock/metal kinda music guy, but.. i even liked Amy's peice in SA1... lol, Knuckles piece was alittle meh, because it was some attempt at rap lol, but man the soundtrack was just brilliant, i still get goosebumps listening to the intro thinking about the last boss!

Shadowwynd

@ReynaldoRiv: your comparison has absolutely no relevance in this issue. that is a COMPLETELY different scenario.

clearly they didn't change the name in their home country of Japan since it remained "Sonic World Adventure" there. the only thing they changed was it didn't use the #3.

the fact that Tenchu 3 was technically just called "Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven" is a much more appropriate comparison.

did you play the game? it's anything but a side story.

btw, we're really splitting hairs here. my point is not concerned with numerical assignments. in other words, the next installment in the series may very well be "Sonic Adventure 3" or something.

my point is, and has always been, that as Sonic World Adventure, and a game created as SA3, it is a direct part of that series/storyline. which MAY mean the next game would have to be "SA4". that's all, brotha.

Crash__Man

@marfin: I think the snarky replies come from the condescending manner in which you knocked the person who simply gave you an opportunity to wipe the egg off your face by asking "what". You decided to pretend it was a fashion statement so the rest of us couldn't resist laughing at it.

TylDurden

@Slanzinger: nahh i was just joking anyway.
but yeah i meant AB2 was so much better than DX

marfin

Sign me up! Just need some 60fps goodness on the original Sonic Adventure and I'm happy, it was a shame the tweaks to the GC port spoiled it.

MikeRox

@Kyattsuai: AW GEESH

kalamari

@Crash__Man: Well shit, does that make Devil May Cry a secret Resident Evil? No? Well then kindly refrain from the lies.

They changed the name because they knew the SA audience would call heavy amounts of bullshit if it were a core-series game instead of a one-time offshoot side story.

ReynaldoRiv

I still remember being absolutely blown away by this on the Dreamcast, as remake would be nice as it's sometimes disappointing going back to old games and seeing how badly they've aged!

Big the cat can still go to hell though.

@Superlocke:

2 was awesome (Hell, even Shadow was acceptable in that game, mostly because he died) but not as good as the first.

Still, if Sega doesn´t srtat thinking outside the box a.k.a fucking it up, i´m up for this game.

@marfin: Heh, wasn't meant like that. Just that it was confusing to the other guys (and me) that a game was being said to be leaps and bounds better than itself. That's all

Straight port or enhanced version, either way, I'm sold.

... And now to be off the post's topic. Did anyone besides me LIKE playing as the Werehog? Sure, the level design wasn't the greatest, some (espescially some of the ones that weren't necessary to the story and just on the side) were downright awful, but playing as the Werehog itself, I found, to be pretty enjoyable. Yeah, it might be "not Sonic", but were ANY of Sonic 2006's gameplay modes at all "Sonic"?

No. Not even the Sonic story.

It may not have been your cup of tea, but please recognize it WAS a step in the right direction, people. Sonic Unleashed had the world of Sonic down pat (the humans weren't too humany, and the hub worlds COULD have been a little smaller, they werne't that bad), it was light hearted as opposed to melodramatic and GRIMDARK like 2006 was, and gameplay wasn't filled with glitches or bad controls - even the camera was mostly workable. Boss fights and day stages were all really fun, and so were early Werehog ones. Ultimately, it just came down to the level design, and I think if the Werehog levels had just been a LITTLE BIT shorter, Sonic Unleashed would be thought of as a much better game.

Woops I turned this comment on a Sonic Adventure post into a Sonic Unleashed review. My bad.

sonicseven

Probably the best 3d sonic game. aside from adventure 2

@Slanzinger: ok count it as sequel numeration fail because i meant adventure 2. excuse me master, for not typing in a digit. i hope thou can forgive me oh fierce deity.

marfin

Just give it the same treatment that Rare gave Banjo-Kazooie for XBLA and I'll be happy.

robpe36

Best 3D game in the series, but that's not saying much.

AlucardsQuest

XBLA/PSN looks most accurate. If it was a genuine remake, though, I certainly won't complain.

Mearns

I'm not sure which I liked better. They both had good things for them going.

@marfin: All I can say is, either you're thinking of a different game (in which case, defense fail), or you meant to type "sonic adventure 2 was leaps and bounds...", in which case sequel numeration fail.

Hope they do the same for Adventure 2, easily my preferred of the two Adventure games.

@Cheroro: It'd be awesome if somehow I could bring my chao's from the gamecube version to the the possible remake :-P

That would be GREAT! The best sonic games (in my opinion) were the adventure games! Chao's took up SOOOOOOO much of my life it's ridiculous :-P I'm always pissed when one of the new sonic games doesn't have a chao garden >:-(

@marfin: your misssing something. you just said this game was garbage, but that Sonic Adventure was better. They're the same game.

TylDurden

@Superlocke: Because spikes are "edgy"!
Although they daren't use the word "edge" in any of their publicity for fear of being sued...

@faxedge: ?
whats wrong with what i just said?
or maybe im missing something.

marfin

Sonic Adventures is all kinds of awesome. people like to hate on 3D Sonic a lot, but for my money Sonic Adventure 1 is right up there with Sonic 3 and 2 as one of the best in the series.

Sega needs to quit with the side stories and put out Sonic Adventure 3 already.

Flyhawk

Bring SA2 on PS3 and you'll have my money.

@ReynaldoRiv: please see below.

Crash__Man

@Lozmaster: and I will keep linking you to the devs saying it was.

[www.computerandvideogames.com]

"As a development team, we originally started off this project planning to create Sonic Adventure 3"
"In our minds, this game will have more in common with the older Sonic Adventure series. It has no relation to Sonic the Hedgehog [on PS3/Xbox 360] or Sonic and the Secret Rings".

and in Japan, they kept its original title "Sonic World ADVENTURE"

[sega.jp]

they only changed it to "UNLEASHED" in the states because I'm sure they think us NAers need a more x-treme title to buy games.

all set now?

Crash__Man

@Gemini-Phoenix: I am looking forward to hearing what they wil be releasing.

kearneybobs

@kajillion: k

@marfin: What

@rubentavares: Most of the DC back catalogue would be awesome.

360 version, PLEEEEEEEEEASE.

I want more awesome Dreamcast awesomeness on my 360, for an excuse to replay them and also so I can have achievements for my past gaming conquests.

wow was just playing this on my dreamcast and i see this nice :)

coojo

@Giroro G66: I say it well went bad with sonic heroes.The sonic adventure series on the other hand were amazing!

Rashed Mokdad

but...this game was absolutely terrible?
sonic adventure was leaps and bounds better than this phenominal garbage. the chao garden on sonic adventure 2 and the general gameplay was a trillion times better.
the chao garden alone must have taken months of my life.

marfin

@DragonSix: yes that would rock!

Rashed Mokdad

PSP version please.

DragonSix

Sonic Adventure 2, please... and Shenmue I and II if that's not asking for too much, SEGA.

I want Sonic adventure 2 HD, please... and shenmue I and II HD please if that's not asking too much.

@Trygle12 is back! Still has trouble reading his posts. : (: But...but that was the most boring bit! And this was a game that featured fishing levels!

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were probably the best 3D Sonic games. That's not saying much though.

OpinionMan

For the love of god, they need to bring back the Chao!

SexeiAlexy

Chao?

I couldn't be too arsed about the game, but if the Chao are making a comeback, I will be sold.

JakeBob

@NO: SA1 wasn't a bad game, but it was the basis for future 3D Sonic games that progressively got worse, so it's natural people blame "SA1" for all this. Now, Sonic Heroes, that's when things started to become godawful.

As far as transition to 3D goes, you are aware that Sega actually tried to make a transition, where as Nintendo slapped on Mario with random 3D elements which vaguely resembled actual "Classical Mario" gameplay? Mario 64 was a great game, but honestly, they could have slapped any IP on it.

@VergessenHeld: If it's horribly mangled with glitches, doesn't that make it a straight port?

@Crash__Man:

You can keep saying it, it's not getting any less completely wrong than every other time you've said it.

Lozmaster

Just remember one thing: 3D Sonic

Every problem and bad design choice in a Sonic game in the past 10 years can probably find it'd roots in this game, as it can be marked as the point where Sonic went off the deep end.

@fox01313: This is less "making Sonic games" and more re-releasing Sonic games, so the argument doesn't really work. Granted, I don't really like this game - I think it's "lackluster."

hanulbada

Now if only it's a remake and not a rehash... Chaos with water physics in current gen graphics sounds nice.

xyzl

Well haven't Sega previously mentioned that they are planning on bringing some of their Dreamcast back-catalogue to PSN / XBLA / Virtual Console? Sonic Adventure may be amongst the first of these such games

Yeah, let's remake the first awful Sonic game. This is why Sonic is fucked, they're pining for the days when Sonic sucked slightly less than it does today.

kajillion

make hd version of sonic adventure 1 and 2 with some additions for psn/xbox live and you've a buyer.

TaMss

Knowing Sega these days, this will be one of two things:

A) A cash-in port with minimal additions for XBLA or PSN
or
B) An actual remake horribly mangled with glitches

So it will either be like the umpteen millionth port of Genesis Sonic or like Sonic 2006.

9.9.09...

@TalKeaton: SA2 was better, but I'm happy to see a rerelease of SA1. I can't wait to see it with upped resolution!

Yeah, DX is the perfect emoticon for this.

God dammit Sega, if you're going to remake a Sonic game then give us Sonic 3 & Knuckles HD Remix.

@NO: Even if the game was flawed in may ways, it was fun. Really, really fun. I had more fun with SA and SA2 than I have with any game released in quite a while, possibly since.

If Sonic games were still as good as SA2, nobody would be complaining.

Sooku

@AnthonyHasGame: Shadow was cool in SA2. It was from Heroes onward that he got so lame.

Sooku

Meh. Sonic Adventure 2 was much better.

hurpdurp

Remake SA DX and SA 2 and release on 360 PLZ.

Sonic84

Big The Cat is cool in my book, if only because he's voiced by the guy who voices Duke Nukem.

twinturbo2

@ppppp: There's some pretty hardcore stuff in there that's not suitable for 2-year-olds...

@Crash__Man: No. It wasn't.

ReynaldoRiv

@TalKeaton: Yeah, I actually would really welcome something like this. An enhanced port to my favorite 3D Sonic would be cool, but a next-gen upgrade would make me ecstatic. I've longed for a next-gen Sonic with adventure fields and the like that isn't a broken unplayable mess.

@TalKeaton: And burned my village to the ground.

@TalKeaton: Also, SA2 started the trend of poor level design in Sonic games.

Did no one else catch that we're only 10 or so days away from Sonic Adventure being TEN YEARS OLD? That's as good a cause for remake for me as any. That, and it's just about the best 3D Sonic game. People here seem to like SA2 better, but I cried when they didn't bring Adventure stages back.

@Phanta: They'll make money for sure, but it was just released on the gamecube last gen. Thye can do a port with slightly enhanced graphics, but I predict it will be on all 3 consoles.

If they remake it at all.

TheVegetarianBurgerKing

Give me an HD remake of SA2 Battle and I'll be happy.

Very happy.

TheVegetarianBurgerKing

If sega wants to make money they should release it with sonic adventure 2 on the wii

this would have to be the best thing for sonic games. i always though sonic adventure 1 and 2 where the best 3D sonic games ever made. controls where way better. the story was good. it was my favorite launch title for the dreamcast. ah the good ol' days.

sonicspd145

@Danved: Not to mention there was another version released 4 years BEFORE DX, Sonic Adventure International in 1999.

Like I said before:

Updated Chao Garden = insta-buy.

@Archaotic: On your second post: WIN!
(Now, I'm off to nominate you...)

@ppppp: Since it was rated in Australia and not the US.

Frogbot

Dare i dream a Sonic Adventure DX & Adventure 2: Battle double bill on 360 and PS3?

I already own the Original Dreamcast versions, but i would love the newer versions.

Sonic Adventure 1 was awesome for me at the time. Makes me miss the Dreamcast days...I really enjoyed that launch period.

Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, and Slave Zero kept me occupied for quite some time.

Would love to have an HD rerelease on XBLA.

Cool, though they'd better boost the graphics to at least Wii standards this time. The new character models were a step in the right direction but they could have done way more, particularly on the NPCs. I just got to 130 emblems in the GameCube version again today.

Kayube

Sonic Adventure was the main reason SEGA failed in the face of Nintendo: Their main franchise wasn't able to make a graceful translation to 3D. I'm willing to admit that there are people out there who wringed enjoyment from this Dreamcast launch title, but at the same time...it controlled like liquid shit for a sonic game. Not even an eighth as good as Mario 64.

..and I say this as a hardcore SEGA fan. Makes me cry blood every time.

@salmonbottle: I agree. For how much flak they got, I played the shit out of those games.

Moral_Avenger

@Ikzai: I liked both games a lot back in the day...they don't hold up so well, though.

Moral_Avenger

@Bouchart- senior Fellow at the American Smartological Institute: Yea but I notice how every time I died in Adventure 2 it was from a pitfall, or a homing attack that never hit correctly.

The game was pretty good, but I think sometimes it gets too much praise.

Edit: now that I think about it, that's been my problem with all 3D sonic games. For the record Adventure 2 was the best of them all.

@Superlocke: If 2 was never made than Shadow the Hedgehog would have never existed.

That character should Twitter from the bathtub.

Since when did director cuts go from "E for everyone" to "3+"?

ppppp

@nightwheel: If it's a remake, then it'll be hard to make it more amazing than it was in 1999. Aside from a few bonuses here and there, it'll be the same affair.

Hey, maybe they could give it the Serious Sam treatment, that would be cool. I'd probably drop of a few MS points for that.

@Ikzai: I blame Sonic Heroes. To think I was excited about the game before it came out, only to be hugely disappointed. Sonic never recovered.

Sonic ADVENTURE is getting another remake. Sonic Adventure DX WAS the remake. Just like Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was the Sonic Adventure 2 remake...actually they were 'enhanced ports', not remakes.

Danved

@Chronixal: SA1 was ok for me. The only reason I hold SA2 above ALL the other 3D sonics is simply because of 2 things.

Control and Level Design.

Seriously, were the people making these games just beaten severely with a 2x4 at some point in their careers??

Somewhere around Shadow the Hedgehog the games became a control NIGHTMARE, compared to the spot-on perfection that was SA2's Sonic control.

Couple that with some stages that were actually a lot of fun to play through and you have a very successful sonic game.

I don't understand WHY THEY CAN'T GO BACK AND LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES!

Give me a full Sonic game with JUST Sonic (and maybe Tails or Knuckles) and SA2 controls with decently good level design and I will buy 8 copies.

Superlocke

@Slanzinger: Why do his shoes get spikes......?

Superlocke

@Ryūkot: Sonic Adventure 1 was good, Sonic Adventure 2 was the pinnacle of 3D Sonic gaming.

Then Heroes came and started to ruin everything.

Everyone loves SA1/2, I haven't seen any hate for it?

Superlocke

hmm, Sonic Adventure is already awesome.

I would much rather have Sonic Adventure 4. (Unleashed was technically created as SA3).

Crash__Man

@nightwheel: Probably impossible, as the 'Hedgehog engine' game controlled like absolute balls.

Superlocke

@Ikzai: I still like the series. I'm just a die hard Sonic fan lol.

@Phantasos: It's a remake of Sonic Adventure 1, not 2.

Superlocke

@liammiller18: The NEW Director's Cut!

@Ikzai: Same.

notquitedeadyet

After SA and SA2 the franchise died to me. /:

Ikzai

@RRRansom: Actually, I'm quite certain Big was in it >.>

liammiller18

And by Director's Cut we mean "The Version Without Big the Cat".

@Kobun: Ditto. Give the game one last go, earn some rewards for playing it, then just look at your achievement list whenever you get the urge to play them again, and remember why you got them in the first place.

i remember playing this on my PC. i also remember being disappointed i coudln't do anything with those little chao guys you rasied, but the game was good!

pandafresh

If Sega can utilize the Hedgehog Engine with this (rumored) remake. But keep the gameplay mostly the same. This could be something amazing.

nightwheel

Sonic Adventure holds a special place in my heart.

@fox01313: Dear fox1313: Please, for the sake of humanity, stop writing Dear Sega letters. Sonic is still profitable while the other mentioned franchises sell like dirt. It has already been established that Sega's demographic is considerably younger than you or I, and it's a demographic who appreciates them, like we used to before puberty turned us into overly-critical douches. In an economy like this, Sega needs to go where the money is at.

Secondly, Yahtzee is primarily a comedian, not a critic. Taking his suggestions seriously would be like taking Glenn Beck seriously.

A remake of the best 3d Sonic game by far?

Color me excited.

@NKato: Unless it's a remake of a port. Then it's just confusing.

XBLA/PSN PLEASE!

notquitedeadyet

@dagamer34: Have you actually played Sonic Adventure 2? It sounds like you have not. It sounds like you haven't played it at all.

@ddhboy: Well, I think SA1 is prtty horrible, yeah.

But it paves the way for SA2B, which was less horrible.

Personally, I loved Unleashed.

Sonic games in 3D have little challenge, and that's why they aren't as good as the 2D ones. People should sorely be punished for holding the stick up all the time during a level.

@ddhboy: Gamma had an amazing story, I thoroughly enjoyed playing as him. SA 2was definitely the pinnacle for me.

Man, I remember seeing an ad for SA2 and I was so fucking excited to see "evil sonic" (Shadow, this is before I knew everything about a game 2 years in advance)

Actually SA2 was one of the last games I dived in blind to play just from sheer excitement. How I miss those days...

ReynaldoRiv

Well fine by me, I might check it out now, I didnt check it when it came to the GC.

@Chronixal: Your deluded

@HDShadow: The fact the ported SA1 to PC but not SA2 is an injustice. Also, why the HELL haven't they released Sonic 2/3/Knuckles for PSP/DS???

@Slanzinger: Big ruined the game for me.

PlatformJunkie

Now this is a bit of a bad idea; show 3d Sonic fans how good they USED to have it.

Ports aren't remakes. They're ports.

So... will this only be on ps3 and wii for their psp and ds chao garden ability or will 360 owners simply miss out on Chao adventure but still get the main game?

ReynaldoRiv

we need a 3d sidescrolling sonic game with on-the-fly procedurally-generated levels.

everyone's happy.

alsoooo i didn't know any sonic games had made it to PC. i'mma see where i can find this :3

curly haired boy

It wasn't too bad. I would get it as a HD downloadable for sure.

Onyx-Ocelot

@spiderweb1986: O Lord.

They put out that incredibly great deal of a Genesis Collection, if they do something like that with some classic DC games (full 1080p Power Stone? With online support?) I will officially relight the candles at my old dusty Sega altar.

PLEASE port SA2:B I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

HDShadow

@ShadowOdin isn't american: Haha, rest assured, I'm not above criticising the series despite being quite the fan. I'd agree with the hubworld and plot complaints, especially Chip, I found him wholly unnecessary. But I liked the majority of the speed levels. They weren't as platform-y as the old 2D classics but had enough paths to mix it up enough.

Maybe its my childhood nostalgia, but I loved Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. I probably replayed these games more times than any other game I've ever owned.

An XBLA release in HD with achievements would be an insta-buy at $10 or $15.

Sonic Heroes was the beginning of the end.

salmonbottle

Probably my second favorite of the 3d Sonic games. The first being Sonic 3d on the Genesis. It was a very fun game, though it was also the beginning of Sonic's downfall.

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: I cannot agree with you more with Sonic 2. I want a copy of that cartridge with me on my funeral.

@Chronixal: It could be because Unleashed was a terribly un-sonicy game.
I can tell from your avatar that I am not gonna convince you of the opposite, but bear with me.

Sonic Unleashed suffered from:
- Terrible levels. Either you were rushing in speed with little to no control over where Sonic was going or you were haplessly buttonmashing through ENORMOUS levels with a slowgoing (and faulty named) warehog that had me proclaiming out loud that "Wow, this wasn't Sonic at all"
I was literally bored a 1/3 through the levels.
- A terrible plot with one of the most unnecessary additional characters ever, which basically was just there for comic relief.
- Unnecessary hubworlds where you were running around platforming with one of the most unplatformfriendly Sonics of all time ("I was just gonna jump up, not dash across the screen")
- Pretty much nonexistant level-structure. "Ok so I beat a boss, now what? Oh I can fly into every world? Cool *goes to every world, BOTH day and night* Huh, not even one level was open, what should I do? Oh? Replay the earlier levels?"
It was great playing a boring Night-stage, travel to every world and then realized I had to go back to it and collect more tokens. Back in the day beating a level meant you got to move on to the next. Pretty wicked idea, I know, but I liked it that way.

Yeah, awesome game. I've never played a Sonic game and felt like I never played Sonic at all before this, and I've played Sonic 3D: Blast and Sonic R.

@Kobun: But by not playing the other characters you could never finish the game and play as Super Sonic. I see what you mean in that it was nice because you could play a whole section only as Sonic but to say you never had to play as the others is a little off.

@Shadowwynd: Yeah, the second part of the Emerald Coast theme showed up on the iTunes shuffle, and that's what made me have to play it again.

@Archaotic: I can't argue with you on the load times, although in fairness they were VASTLY improved on Sonic 06's. I'm a Sonic fan and not even I could bring myself to finish that one. Also agreed on the werehog, although I think there's generally an even split of day and night levels. Unfortunately, most of the day ones are hidden and extremely short in comparison.

As for your last point, I wish I could counter than in some meaningful way but considering I read that same interview from the Sega exec, you're probably right. That said, I still manage to get some enjoyment from most of the Sonic games. All else fails, I have Sonic 2.

@Boom-Chicka-Ah: Here to Create a Star Commenter Empire: See also.

What's with all the default Sonic hate? Its Sonic Adventure, one of the few good 3D Sonic games of its time....
Well, at least I enjoyed it (since I never unfortunately owned a Dreamcast).

The GCN port was okay, but it was still just a port. A remake would be great, especially if Sega actually completes the whole game (I remember reading S.A. was never completed).

@CI254: I started playing the PC version recently with my 360 controller, that didn't work well.

@WhiteMage: This was the only Sonic game I ever liked outside of SEGA CD, Man would I love to play it again, so long as they don't fuck it up with the "skill" they've built up since then.

orijimi

@Boom-Chicka-Ah Here to Create a Star Commenter Empire: Ah-ha-ha, ahaahahahahaaaah..
Aah, funny joke.

@Archaotic: The problem is not Sonic games, they are not inherently flawed. The problem is Sega's sheer refusal to fix the problem, because the games still happen to be profitable.

@Chronixal : Rush Adventure suffers from something I will call, the Sonic 3D problem. They took something that we all know, like, and love, then added in more for no reason. Now, more isn't always BAD, by no means am I saying nothing should ever be added, but they added in extremely unnecessary, horribly made parts to the game that the game would be BETTER without, because yes, it's mandatory to play them.

It's times like THOSE that make me want Nintendo's let the game play itself more and more...

As for Unleashed, it suffers the problem too. Werehog levels were bad for the genre they were trying to be, and they were tacked into a genre they didn't belong in. The platforming was bad, the fighting mechanics were bad, it was just bad. The other half was great, but half of a whole right is still a F.

Secret Ring's was ok, but suffered it's own problems, and still didn't nail down controls, nor did the Black Knight.

I have played all of these games, and I'm not on some bandwagon. Sonic games to me are something special, I see the best crafted game ever as Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which to this day still could stand up to your Cod4's and Halo's in terms of the amount of enjoyment it delivers. Not only that, Sonic games are the reason I'm commenting on Kotaku, they are the reason I'm going to be a Computer Science major, they are the reason I have the motivations I do in life.

The progressions for the games have not been progressively down, but more like a fluctuation, but still a fluctuation with a low variance of the "good" variable compared to back in the day.

The good ol' days..

@Chronixal: Yakuza sells well in Japan. It's safe.

masshuum

@Chronixal: Thanks to the CONSTANT load times and the overabundance of Werehog levels, Unleashed was terrible. It was literally insulting to play, because the normal stages were actually amusing, but there were so few of them compared to the sluggish, plodding Wereshit levels that made me want to kick someone in the face every time a new one appeared in the hub world.

As for Secret Rings, well, Secret Rings made my carpal tunnel syndrome flare up worse than whacking my arm against a brick wall for half an hour.

The point is, Sega is consistently pissing in the eyes of the people who actually used to like them, in favor of appealing to idiot kids and casual gamers who don't know any better. They've openly admitted to this and confirmed they have no plans of stopping any time soon, so they totally deserve being blasted and ripped on at every opportunity.

@WhiteMage: I hope so, it better not be just a port (like what the GCN got).

@Chronixal: It has to do with Sonic Adventure not forcing you to play all the non-Sonic characters, and the level design was awesome for what it was. Unleashed does well with its 2-D gameplay, but you're forced into playing the Werehog levels, and the daytime stages all basically all speed and no platforming. While I'm not a fan of the Sonic family nor the hub world, Sonic Adventure's Sonic stages did 3-D Sonic right. Sonic.

Kobun

@WhiteMage: I still don't get what's so great about Sonic Adventure 1. I had the orignal for dreamcast, sonic was great, tails was good, e-102 Gamma was Ok (his story saved the game play really), Amy was bad, and Big the Cat was horrific. Sonic adventure 2 on the other hand was my fucking fan orgasm, and it only got better with Battle.

Then everything went to shit with Heroes...

ddhboy

Another remake? An intriguing prospect. Although playing as Big the Cat was... actually quite perplexing (in a good way for his final boss fight... "Pull the fish out of Chaos in order to defeat him!" ". . .Bwuh?!")
That being said... I enjoyed this one, but preferred Adventure 2 Battle (own both on GC). Not really sure why (although the hub worlds may have been a big factor)
Have to say though, both had their faults (Knuckles/Rouge stages spring to mind... And the arbitrary grading system on every level, but that seems to be omnipresent in the 3D games)
But yeah, secondary remakes usually aren't necessary, and smell a little of "dead horse flogging". Good though the game was, another remake of it really isn't necessary, esp. if you're releasing on Wii: GC controls will probably be tighter and no gimmick-waggling; graphics won't be *too* far removed [but maybe a bit if they spruce it up nice]; and most importantly the GC version is probably available pretty cheap second-hand from your local (in UK at least) Game/CEX/Gamestation/eBay.

@UnaCadmus: I loved DX.

It's bad enough your little positive comment be drowned out by all the negativity, Pinky, on top of already being invisible to the majority of readers because it's unapproved.

Kobun

@Archaotic: Sonic games sell by the millions worldwide. Yakuza didn't. Which is Sega more likely to drop?

And honnestly, Sonic games have been steadily increasing in quality over the last years. Rush and Rush Adenture were excellent, Unleashed was much better than was given credit for and even Secret Rings was enjoyable. Please jump off the bandwagon.

Oooh, I wouldn't mind that. As long as they do it right. It was crappy in some places (some obvious places), but pretty fun.

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@fox01313: I applaud the mention of Otogi.

@Kyattsuai: Music in the game was awesome, I listened to those character peices over and over and over... Damn, i'll have to track down my MP3 of the intro music now :D

Shadowwynd

Of all the sonic games, this is by far the worst render of Sonic.

@Archaotic: This ^^

-Skyline-: Voted Crecente 12'

@Blue Wizard 422: Sense of duty and achievement memorabilia are the sole reasons I bothered with Sega's regurgitated output on 360.

Kobun

A Sega post related to Sonic and not Yakuza 3 coming to the US? Eh.

Seriously, ENOUGH SONIC ALREADY. The franchise has been beaten so savagely it looks worse than Deadpool's face under his mask. Give the 'hog a rest. A long one, preferably under six feet of dirt.

As a life long Sonic fan, it puzzles me why this and SA2 are still heralded as the pinnacle of 3D Sonic gameplay, ahead of Unleashed even.

At best, this had a 20-25% amount of time actually playing as Sonic, compared to Unleashed's 50%. And he seems so slow too.

That said, Deem Bristow's depiction of Robotnik is SA2 was absolutely sublime and will never be surpassed. Rest his soul

@WhiteMage: Sega knows not of this word "remake." Sega only know how take money for same old crap.

Kobun

@WhiteMage: I totally agree, but I just have to point out that poor Trygle said the same thing a couple of comments down, and nobody replied to it.
I just think it's kinda sad...

@-Skyline-: Voted Crecente 12':

You seem to forget that he makes money. They aren't going to pull the plug while that's happening.

Well that and the fanbase is still strong.

@spiderweb1986: Great, now I've just had a nerdgasm.

Excuse me whilst I clean this up.

supremesonic

@Kyattsuai:

LOOK OUT YOUR GOING TO CRASH AHHHHHHH

Dear Sega, please for the sake of humanity, stop making Sonic games (and Full Auto for that matter). Most are excessively lackluster, instead why not try to remake some of the other titles that you have that were at least different like Jet Grind Radio, Otogi: Myth of Demons, ToeJam & Earl.

Best thing ever said about the recent Sonic games, that comes to mind, is from Yahtzee's review of Sonic Unleashed.

[www.escapistmagazine.com]

I'd rather see Knuckles' Chaotix released for Virtual Console or Xbox Arcade.

"...or part of some new compilation."

Dreamcast compilation? Dreamcast compilation? DREAMCAST COMPILATION???

Please? :D

spiderweb1986

YES!!!! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!......

can you feel the sarcasm? I mean when is SEGA gonna stop?

People seem to forget that a PC version of this exists. My bet is it's for Steam or something.

CI254

I was playing the original Sonic Adventure last night, and remembered what a total mixed bag the audio is - how can a game with such an awesome soundtrack have such terrible dialogue?

@latiosking: Can't reply =/: I sold my gamecube a while back. I got a dreamcast this year.

I was DEVASTATED to discover the chao garden has less than half of its functionality due to the black market requiring online connectivity, and on top of that being just shut down. Bad idea, sega.

A new port of it or a remake would just be the best damn thing ever.

this would be sick. I've played that game so many times. Getting to become super sonic in that and then later hyper shadow in 2 were some of my favorite moments on dreamcast . also if i remember correctly i thoroughly enjoyed the soundtrack to them.

Stix1313

@WhiteMage: This man has the right idea

i'd rather see sonic adventure 2 with just sonic and shadow levels as an xbla and psn download

WayByWind

God I hate that cover, the render of Sonic just looks so tacky, kinda like that cover of Sonic 3D on the Genesis.

Anyway, another port of this game? I suppose it's good for the people who never got to play it but I won't be buying it either way as I still own the original on my Dreamcast and my Dreamcast is still in use. ^_^

...and they won't even entertain the idea of bringing Yakuza 3 stateside. Smart marketing and making it multiplatform for PS3/Xbox 360 is a sure fire. They should not use Yakuza 2 as the bar for projected sales. I have no idea why they spent money and manpower to localize Yakuza 2 for the PS2 last year when they had this monster for the current-gen.

I don't import much, but this game was spectacular and I definitely see the market for it now.

SEGA ENOUGH! Stop wasting money!!! Make a new Phantasy Star(NON-MMO), scrap Sonic for the time being and revamp Alex Kidd, and bring effing Yakuza 3 over to the states!

Enough!

bjorked

I saw this earlier!

I hope hope HOPE it's a remake, and not just a port or XBLA thing. I remake with proper controls? Hell yeah!

And you know what this means- REMAKE. OF SONIC. ADVENTURE. 2. BATTLE.

FREAKING HD CHAO GARDEN.

This is one of the games that is really close to a "good 3D sonic formula."

I liked Unleashed Day levels, and they were really close to perfect. This game is another example of how to do it good, although not exactly right.

I would say, if they could search for a balance between the two, and use this as the start of the hype for "Sonic Adventure 3" they would be on to something, but I guess 8 year olds don't care about all that.

STICK SOME SHINY PICTURES AND COOL EXPLOSIONS AND YOU GOT YOURSELF A GAME SEGA!

Depending on what system this is for, I might get it. Not touching it for Wii or PS2. A 360 or PS3 digital release would sucker me into playing it again, if only to show the world via achievements that I've played this game to death.

Sonic Adventure was a good game.

I've not heard the same thing said for the port.

While I certainly wouldn't compare if they remade the game, it seems likely to be a (hopefully more stable) port as a cash-in. My guess is a disc release for the Wii, or an XBLA/PSN release.

So yeah, Gamecube re-port it is

ShiftBreaker

If this is true I have 2 words for Sega:

QUALITY ASSURANCE.

Please just kill this god damned hedgehog...

May he rest in peace after being tortured for so many years =(

-Skyline-: Voted Crecente 12'

good for its time, but pretty crap now, i'd much rather see a PSP/XBLA/PSN port of SA2:B

Khorney

It would be great if they actually make the game's framerate like steady, instead of dropping from 30fps to 60fps all the time.

ryno365

Only if.... and ONLY IF.

They make a Next Gen Chao garden to go along with it.

It will sell and I can forgive Sega for making another remake if that happens.

The Gamecube version is one of the few games I ever regretted buying. I really hope they do a good job porting it this time.

PSN or I don't care.

But seriously. One of the few GOOD 3d sonic games. We should support this.

The Swearing Gramps