Adult Films Push For Presence On Gaming Consoles

How about we get some AO games before we start pushing for straight porn. I don't understand why R rated movies can have T@A but games like ME are 'edgy' for having a mild and tasteful sex scene.

grantanamo

....Give me something to watch while the PS3 updates its firmware.

AncientUnknown1

Don't know about for the PR side of things, but money-wise...Sony would be smart to be the first to this.

Can't wait to see what Fox News and co. do with this. If they said Mass Effect was explicit...

Oh how I would love to get my Faye on on my PS3... Hurry up Sony and deliver.

@kerihobo: Calm down there. You don't have to hide your excitement ;)

@drifter1717: Yup, I was proud and disappointed with myself both at the same time.

hamandcheese

@KillerBee: You hit the nail on the head with that. Could you imagine if porn officially made it onto the playstation 3...someone in middle America would leave their PS3 on, their kid would get ahold of the controller and order some Debby Does Dallas. Fox News would find out and everything would go downhill from there.

This is a terrible idea. Does this guy think that gamers actually look at porn?

He needs to do a little more research.

OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling

I wonder if Faye Reagan is a gamer?

booey08

Letting porn on their systems would be a horrific mistake for any of Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo.

Make no mistake, I'm not a prude about porn, not at all. But that's not what this is about.

Unlike DVD-player manufacturers, console makers monitor the content allowed on their box. Many people honestly don't understand that Sony doesn't itself make or assist in making all the games that come out for the PS3. Honestly, ask the man on the street. So the idea that Sony controls its content and that it's cool to leave a kid with an PS3 is important. Kids are still a huge part of the console gaming market.

Now, add porn into the argument, and you scare the shit out of parents. It doesn't matter if there's parental controls, it doesn't matter if you need a credit card, all that matters is that you've put a reason for not buying your product into somebody's head when before there wasn't one. I wouldn't leave my little cousin on the internet without guidance, but I would allow him on the XBox. That can't change.

So what do you gain for having porn on your box? A small slice of the profits. But...
a) Like all other digital products, sales of porn are falling off a cliff. People may feel bad stealing a game that 100s of people worked on. Stealing porn feels good, nobody cares.
b) It's the porn companies who'd make the most bank. Why tarnish your brand just to facillitate them?

Agumen

If you ask me, I'm sick and tired of watching outtakes in poor quality of streaming sites. I would gladly pay for some decent HD material on my PS3.

Godseye

Porn sells... But who's buyin' ?

@grantanamo:
The groups that dislike those kind of things think of games as a media for children. Not to mention, they want that out of movies and TV too, but they just recognize where they've lost.

magiczero

@Ursus-Veritas:
This is why Sony won't go for this idea, and its also why they kept Porn off of Blu-Ray at first (until HD-DVD was no longer competition.)

They aren't in the lead, and the last thing they need right now is moral nuts yelling at them for "trying to sell porn to children." You know as well as I do that this would be the headline the second this deal went through.

magiczero

@RageKage: hahah close

James Sorensen

@drifter1717: me

James Sorensen

@Wolfgeist:

ROFL OMFG LMFAO. Did she at least get turned on. DETAILS MAN DETAILS.

Playon and Redtube. Done.

Please, for our sake, do NOT put porn OFFICIALLY on consoles. We have enough shit to deal with in the media. We don't need another Fox News "gaming is evil" piece.

@Ursus-Veritas: Yup. Not sure Sony and MS would feel too comfortable about this, either: nobody wants their system to be known as "the porn console".

oh my god! no! just NO!!! How could this happen!? aghhhh fuckit! this is wrong!

kerihobo

I thought porn already existed on the PS3, it was called Winamp Remote.

Man was that akward when I wanted to find a music video on my hard drive and opened the wrong folder. With my wife next to me.

@Akoji: There are some that appear to be beautiful through the vaseline lined camera lenses of yesteryear.

Not so much in HD I am guessing. I guess the proof will be in the pussy...I mean pudding...I meant pudding seriously.

JustJake

@drifter1717: Mistook her for Nikki Rhodes

RageKage

I'm fascinated to see where this goes. This kind of digital distribution seems like the next wave for porn, and if companies can break into the PS3, that'd be huge for them. Sure, FyreTV offers something similar, and will probably have a bigger library, but buying it means admitting that you're *that* dedicated to porno. Paying for porn through your PS3 requires much less commitment (and is thus more likely to cast a broader net).

@drifter1717: I did. :(

digipen89

@digipen89: Don't worry, you're not the only one who recognized her :P

@JustJake: Second option. Seriously girls in porn are not all beauties, and this is even more easier to see in HD.

Akoji

Porn on the Wii?

Why make a masturbation waggle when you can do it for real?

Unless I'm missing the point, which is to have a useful application for the vitality sensor.

There's already porn on Blu-Ray, right? So, I can see Sony having less of a problem with having porn on PSN. Microsoft I'm unsure of and I know Nintendo would shoot that idea down in a heartbeat.

On an unrelated note, I feel dirty for immediately recognizing that the women pictured is Faye Valentine (a.k.a Faye Reagan).

digipen89

So....who else thought "Oh hey, it's Faye Reagan!" when they opened up Kotaku this morning?

drifter1717

I have had porn on my PS3 for a long time now.

Wait if they did HD PORN then I would be a poor poor man for a while.

I have never seen an HD porn. Not sure if it would be the greatest thing ever or if it would make me wish for blurry porn where my mind can think what it wants of it.

JustJake

It would have to be on accounts with persons aged 18+ and would need to be able to be hidden unless the user wants it to be shown. But I'm all for it. Maybe when little kids download some porn on PS3 then the parents will finally pay attention to what they're doing.

The fact most parents don't even know about parental controls and the ones who do are too lazy to set them, this could be an epic back fire on the consoles here in US.

Porn is just like sex.

If you love it, you probably have a ton of viruses.

n00b_pwner

I don't think there's a place for Porno on consoles. Anyway who doesn't have a PC, but have an internet connection near their PS3? Just download your porn on your PC. I don't want to be embarrassed when I'm looking at the PSN stores near my familly because there's porn on it.

Anyway there's always a way to break the "age verification".

Akoji

Wouldnt really phase me either way. If you going to use the 'kids' argument, well they can and probably get all the porn they need on their (or their parents) PC's anyhow. If its done right and in a decent enough manner then sure - go for it. I'd assume that most people who own a PS3 are over 18 anyway. Those who are younger, if they REALLY wanted would find a way to get hold of porn, and FREE porn at that.

ReT

We all know how clunky age verification is when it comes to online stuff...

It can't work. I'm not morally against it, though I myself wouldn't really feel comfortable having an XXX tab on the PS Store, but I don't think it can be done properly right now.

Why does the introductory paragraph of this say he's considering the Wii when his quote sounds pretty contrary...?

I don't really see this actually happening, but it would be pretty epic if it did. They may have a better shot on the PS3 then the 360, though, since MS won't even allow character names that contain a lot of words found in most porn titles :P

kobeashi

Sony didn't want porn on Blu-Ray? Didn't they have Vivid entertainment as one of the backers for the format?

Either way, I'm all for it but I don't think its going to happen. They'll use the bullshit excuse that because it can play a role as a family media piece and that kids can access the store through their parent's credit account that it would be unsafe.

I'm sure there are many consoles out there loaded up with some of his company's finest works... they just haven't been paid for.

lolgreg

who buys porn?
not this guy

Cable boxes provide on-demand adult content that can be protected by passwords. This is an inevitable move, but one that I'm not interested in. I'll get my porn for free in standard def, thanks.

To turn a phrase; "Porn is the yardstick of our digital civilization." Look at the format wars through the years. VHS and DVD were recognized as the dominate formats AFTER porn adopted them. And they usually adopted it first. And I believe the same thing happened with HD DVD vs BR when Pirates came out in BR HD. Coincidentally I believe that is a Vivid movie. Sony should certainly not come off as puritanical here. There's a shit ton of money to be made.

Eville1 rocks out with his rooster out.

The only reason they don't want this is the public backlash they would get.

I am against this. Only because ill probably end up spending money on it if it happens

I think i'd be a bit uncomfortable seeing Porn on the PSN and the Marketplace. It just seems out of place on a games console.

Faye Reagan! For a second I thought I didn't type Kotaku correctly...

velvet396

@DaiMacculate - impotentnerdrage.com: that doesn't mean that stupid parent groups would completely flip their shit when they hear this.

@ReT: Yeah so many guys in middle to high school would look at porn on school computers, and play porn flash games on them. So this isn't much different.

Who really wants porn on their console? And who the fuck pays for porn? There's so much free shit out there you don't even need to pirate it.

@Showmeyomoves!: ...and learning.

Oh man... Ive seen that girl many a times.
She is all kinda of fine and "puffy" lol ;)

Ur-Lord-Crypy

Sounds like a logical business step for Vivid, and ultimately a non-issue when you look at the relative availability (in the USA at least) of DVD-based pornography. The process for configuring pornographic content from an official online service will probably be MORE complicated on the PS3/Xbox than just acquiring a DVD from an "adult" friend/relative and popping it into either perfectly capable system.

@KillerBee: Why not? Both Sony and Microsoft are trying to make their consoles into "entertainment centers", right? They want their consoles to do much more than just play games. Well, this is part of that process, IMO.

At some point, Sony and Microsoft are going to have to deal with this sort of thing. They already have several safeguards in place. This is an *image* issue for them, not a technological one.

I think if they want their consoles to grow up into full-blown entertainment centers that cater to people of all ages and multiple interests, then they need to treat their users accordingly, and not like we're all under 18 years old.

Tuor_of_Gondolin

@Eville1 rocks out with his rooster out.: Actually, as mentioned in the article, the porn industry went for HD DVD over Blu-ray, until that format went the way of the dodo. Also, Pirates was released on both formats, so was by no means a crucial factor in Blu-ray's eventual victory.

And while you touch yourself in the dark, Natal is watching.

Showmeyomoves!

I guess its their way of trying to get more money, despite that fact that its already free on the inter net. It would not be that hard to transfer it to the PS3/ Xbox 360.

I'm confused, what's wrong with the Internet? I mean sure it'll lack the garish aquamarine soaked branding and redundant XMB icon of an 'Official' section, but the inevitable puns involving various strings of words like 'play', 'stick' and 'entertainment' isn't a price worth paying personally.

@Agumen: Actually they say that people are watching more porn then ever before now during all this economic crisis.

*Taken from the unofficial thread from TAY while the comments were diabled*

I personally think, as a quasi-Libertarian, that if Sony shouldn't try to pretend that they don't already support the industry by allowing them to release on Blu-Ray. They shouldn't restrict them from putting that kind of content on the PSN, but I don't think they should be required to. They already allow for pr0n viewing via their Flash9-capable web browser, so why stop there? It's people's right to view it if they want, so it's really up to Sony on whether or not they see it as a viable income source.

(Human) Gyaruson

@Godseye: i don't know about you, but i like to kept my porno sub-HD. i really don't need to see all the fine details of a lady's who-ha.

triforcer

@ithyphallus, lazy beareaucrat: "Go with the flow" sounds like a horrible fetish porn title.

@DrunkAus: It wasn't exactly "porn", but the Nintendo GameCube version of BMX XXX was the only version that contained full nudity from the start. (The PS2 contained none, the Xbox one had to be unlocked.)

Porn on console is available now for those who wants to do it...no different than any other video to get on the ps3. But to allow it on the PSN is another story. I don't think sony will do that. They have no mechanism for 18+ store right now. And even if they did they'll get angry letters from parents and sales will suffer. Forget it on the wii...there's no way in hell that's going to happen. 360?....maybe but I still think MS will not do it. If I want porn I can get it elsewhere. I don't need it to show on the psn and clutter up the screen.

@DrunkAus: The Wii remote would allow you to access the menu's with one hand.

Showmeyomoves!

@Akoji: That said they have the right to distribute the same as any other film type.

If the platform holder is comfortable with it then it's fine.

Also, aren't you just dieing to hear the fox news coverege of it?

I liked it when this woman went by "Faye Valentine"...the unintentional reference made me chuckle in a nerd-like fashion every time.

Erik Olson

@drifter1717: Well it's afternoon here but yeah. Did someone get some fleshbot in my Kotaku?

Phlashman

@drifter1717: A starlet mysteriously sometimes refereed to as Faye Valentine, something that I think lends her even more geek cred.

Courteous_Gentleman

Meanwhile, after killing on Call of Duty with the family approval, the kid went to jerk off in his bedroom, "hidden", with a porn magazine that he wasn't supposed to be able to buy, and everyone knows that he does that but pretends that it just doesn't happen.

After that, he goes to the game store only to see tons of guys over 40 with their tuxedos buying ps3's and xbox.

But no, war isn't adult. Sex is. And there are no place for adult content on the market.

u-huh.

Man in the mirror

@n00b_pwner: That's why you use protection and don't get with everything you see.

Bannana Stand CEO

@drifter1717: I did, I was like, WAT did I go to the wrong page?

Bannana Stand CEO

@digipen89: That's because she is hot and everywhere online. It's all good, you even know both of her names, haha.

Bannana Stand CEO

Do we get trophy or achievement unlocked by watching horrific porns?

Gen

Porn on the Wii? HAHAHAHA FAT CHANCE. Nintendo would never ever go for that, and Xbox Live for that matter, I really can't see Microsoft allowing it either.

@OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: "Captain, I am picking up high levels of sarcasm emitions in this area"

The problem is that with most console sales it's that most purchases are made by parents for kids and who've ever does this first is going to lose out on those sales.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it, but it's better for the like of Sony and MS not to do this.

Also surely anyone who's motivated to watch porn on their PS3 or Xbox can already do so. It's not that hard. (Excuse the pun!)

Phlashman

@drifter1717: I didn't, you pervert!

I thought "Oh hey, it's Faye Valentine!"
._.

@(Zombie) Deenight: Go with the flow: o if only weird al did mega deth covers :(

ithyphallus, lazy beareaucrat

@KillerBee: Yeah, I can see the headlines: "Nine year old sneaks into porn section on PSN, parents could not be found for comment" as if the internet wasn't available on the PS3 and Wii already.

It's a shame we have to worry so much about 'console/videogame image' still and can't just enjoy our pastime without worrying about reception.

@n00b_pwner: Only if you haven't heard of condoms and NoScript.

Koztah

well this sure lives up to the moto "it only does everything", because at first glance at that line we all thought "pr0n"!

ithyphallus, lazy beareaucrat

@cranky: 1080p porn is not something I'm anxious to see either, let alone pay for it.

yay the little kiddies on xbl might shut up for once.

Maybe now that Sony Tester show doesn't sound so bad. I'll sign up if I get to QA for PSN

blacks on blonds dvds please :)

@fELIXADER: What?! There is free porn on the internet? Why didn't anyone tell me about this!

I'll be first in line to buy a PS3 should this happen. For gaming of course...

@Phlashman: First of all....That's what she said.

Secondly, I kindly disagree. If this were true then no house would ever contain a computer because parents obviously know that porn is easily accessible. This could actually be a good time for consoles to show off their parental control features.(something that is much more difficult to do on the PC)

@nightwheel: You know it comes with a falsh-enabled web browser, right?

@braincadet: I don't at all regret Googling who you meant :)

Pudgie'sSmokerGivesAGoodTongueing

@hodayathink is running for president of Naughty America: There's no way that Sony would allow true adult content (even the relatively tame stuff that Vivid produces) on it's console

They're allowing porn on their Japanese store already.

Hirsch says they've decided to broach the subject now with Sony because of the console maker's decision last month to allow Japan's DDM.TV to bring on-demand Blu-ray quality HD adult movies to the console.

-MasterDex-

@Ur-Lord-Crypy: Haha, I feel like a perv for knowing what you mean.

yargh

@ttocs: If porn does go onto PSN, I'd wager an account or credit card will need to be entered to even view the porn.

I still share the concerns though. Regardless of how well they age restrict the content, you can bet your money that Faux news or someone else willlatch onto it like a pitbull.

-MasterDex-

First and foremost... I don't understand the need to turn gaming consoles into masturbation machines. However, here is a more logical approach to bypass the whole "Click here if you are 18" nonsense. It's a long post, so grab an apple or a soda pop before you read!

Here's a better way of determining someone's age, because let's face it, clicking "Yes I am 18" isn't exactly a fool proof plan to prevent minors from viewing pornographic material, and punching in a credit card number is just as insufficient to judge someone's age.

Drivers License Number. Punch that in, the network communicates with the DMV to check the drivers license to check the birthdate, and sends a letter or an email to the driver requesting verification that the individual requested said service, and to seal the deal you need to give the DMV your SSN (social security number).

DMV checks their records, confirms validity of the SSN with what they have on record, and the service is authorized. Yes, it would take more than a week to do. Yes, if you want to download dirty porn you'll have to embarrassingly let the DMV know you're a pervert.

But what this does do is prevent minors from using a parent's driver's license number, or an older friend's driver's license number to access Vivid Entertainment's admittedly superior quality pornographic films.

Of course, one can always steal or 'borrow' another's SSN, but not very many young adults actually know their SSN I'm willing to bet. Either way, this process forces direct contact with the person whose identification is being used, and could potentially weed out a lot of kids lying about their age to see what a vagina looks like.

@Antiterra: True! But I can still dream a little dream...

sweet sweet faye reagan

braincadet

@Lux Alptraum: But the platform, a video game console, isn't right. It's not ripe for porn - not yet, not even close.

As much as Microsoft and Sony like to market their systems as multimedia hubs, not toys, they're still perceived mostly as video game consoles, i.e. something that children use a lot.
Any kind of association between "children" and "porn", no matter how remote, would be incredibly damaging to any company. Kiss-of-death damaging.

Sony and MS could tout parental controls all they wanted, they'd be crucified by the media, parent advocacy groups and religious organisations. Just look at how big box stores refuse to carry AO-rated games - and the few games that came close to being "adult only" were usually no more than the video game equivalent of your average torture-porn flick: forget about actual porn.

In the US - and probably in my dearly depraved Europe, too - porn would do far more damage than good to either console.

This won't end well for Sony if Parents find out that porn is available on the PS3 in the future. (I doubt it will happen anyways.)

nightwheel

@Eville1 rocks out with his rooster out.: And Pirates is a Digital Playground movie (co-produced by Adam & Eve), not Vivid.

@Sparx: If I remember correctly, Sony isn't the company that didn't want porn on Blu-Ray. Disney was. Any commercial place that replicated Disney movies was bound by contract to not be able to replicate porn. And seeing how big Disney is, that meant most replication companies.

@JustJake: HD porn exists , if its faye raegen then you cant go wrong .

DaveStampeed

@Courteous_Gentleman: She was Faye Valentine, but she didn't know about the Cowboy Bebop reference. Once she found out, she changed it to Faye Reagan.

Hm, someone pays for porn theses days?

Don't get me wrong here, i think have you seen one then you have seen every pronmovie (wich means they are boring), despite the stuff I DON'T WANT TO see.

But despite this point i ask myself: who wants to pay for this, when there is more free stuff of it on the net then from anything else?

faye is my fayvorite... to bad ive seen pretty much all she has

@Bannana Stand CEO: What does that make me for knowing all three (she was Jillian in an American Apparel catalog)?

Keep your dirty, dirty, whoreish hands out of my console. Stay in my computer, where you belong...

Typhoon Swell

@Lux Alptraum: You know me, and as much as I'd like to see this happen, it won't. There's no way that Sony would allow true adult content (even the relatively tame stuff that Vivid produces) on it's console, primarily for the backlash it would recieve from conservatives. You'd have bunches of people protesting and not buying the console just out of moral outrage. And they just don't need that kind of publicity right now, or anytime soon.

@zach2387: Stick up the ass syndrome...all those people have it.

@CrakinShOt: ...and growing?

Guitarzan2k5

@grantanamo: Damn, I thought that stood for "Mirror's Edge" for a moment, which filled me with a burning desire to re-play the game

Wait, "burning desire" is a bad term to use on the current topic, right?

@Sir-Lucius has no pictchar!: One movie in particular comes to mind.... Pirates.

@booey08:
well if the game has waggle waggle controls ...

alienator303

@Ur-Lord-Crypy: Faye Reagan is very lovely.

@Showmeyomoves!: NATAL PORN GAMES CONFIRMED

"Five appendages detected. Working..."

Yeah, right. I doubt this is going to happen as it will probably set many politicians to hyper mode. Plus, it's free on the internet.

I don't think this will happen. Parents will flip out if this ever went through.

@Hyperpower!: Unless you do that on global scale and make it so EVERY porn service on the globe goes with that system it's totally pointless.

It's much easier for children to get to porn on PCs and it's easier for parents to limit content access on consoles. There's just totally no point in your system. The kids won't be trying to bypass PS3's age verification. They'll just play their games on PS3 and watch their porn on PCs where they can safely alt+tab or alt+f4.

Add to that that many consoles are setup in cental place in home, where biggest TV is, while kids have their PCs at their rooms. Rooms they can just lock if needed...

There's always be some small porn site living off ads that will have yes/no question to answer to get entrance. Kids will find it.

Parents might try to use some software limiting access to porn, kids will either find walkaround or... they will just ask older friends to buy them a magazine or 2 to keep under bed.

I don't remember how young I was when I saw my first porn, I remember it was german, I saw it with older friend and we talked about how they never take their shoes off. Somehow it didn't break my brain, I'm normal 23 old person and get into normal relationship, go to normal college, have normal job. Wait, come to think of it they aren't normal. They are pretty good.

Areinu

Its almost as if Sony forgot how they lost the beta market, eh?

Asterisk-CGY

@Lux Alptraum: ...in bed.

Asterisk-CGY

@Tuor_of_Gondolin: "....and not like we're all under 18 years old."

When the public sees "video games" in any way, they also see "kids". There is no getting around it. It is part of having gaming as a hobby.

OFFICIALLY putting porn is consoles is a horrible idea. I am all for adult material, but think about how much shit the gaming industry has dealt with because of the "hot coffee" crap. Imagine it that were real porn.

Again, Playon and Redtube. Done.

@-MasterDex-: Yeah, but Japan's a vastly different culture.

@FannyRatLove: Oral sex encompasses both sexes.....

@Hyperpower!: Very good point, and a good idea. It would prevent every youngster below 16 first of all and every false ID and/or Driveslicence would become invalid aswell i presume.

What if a youngster "borrows" his big brothers DL and his SSN then? Wouldn't he be able to access the content? Isn't the SSN printed on the DL aswell (in sweden your SSN is printed on the DL, but the minimum age is 18 for a DL)?

What if you verified your age when registering a new account on PSN/XBL/wii instead. The same problematics still occur with the chance of youngsters "borrowing" but on the other hand your account allready has the verification of you date of birth from the start and the hassle of going through several verifications later could be gone (when trying to acces any and all adult material, including games and movies).

This would ofcourse need a more thoughtful approach in locking and unlocking your account to others than youself i.e more that the password "x+square+triangle". however there may be a smarter loginsystem in place already since atm I am the only user on my xbox. Correct me if I may be wrong.

My 2 cents anywho.

Vivid Entertainment: restoring "Waggle-fest" to its proper meaning on the Wii.

In all seriousness, I can't see this happening, especially on the Wii and 360.

@FannyRatLove: i loled

@FannyRatLove:

Give this guy a star.

MooglesInMyFace

On the Wii? that kid machine? That would be weird to be able to watch porn with a Wii.

@Hyperpower!:

I think its a great idea but i think there are a few problems that could arrise.

First and foremost, to assume everyone over 18 has a license doesn't make sense. Not only that, but it is a difficult for of identification to acquire. Unlike a credit card, it can take months to years for some people to get a license.

Second, why would i ever wait a full week if not longer (we all know how the dmv works) to get approval from ps or the dmv about my age. The process is way to long and elaborate. Not only that but i dont want that kind of information going through that many hands before it gets to me.

Third, if i want to watch porn, its now. Im not anxious or planning on watching porn. To take the time to go through all of that makes no sense. Ill just hop on my computer and get it for free, lol.

Fourth, you interested in protecting those under 18. well if lets say your a dad and you have 1 ps3 in the whole house and you want to watch porn on it. You go through your process and now your ps3 is unlocked...well your kid could get on it to then and just do what you did without wait a week lol. Which then in turn makes us think "Well why not lock it out on the system?" well that would defeat your whole dmv system wouldnt it? lol

sry, im not trying to rain on your parade, the idea was just very perplexing.

@Piccoroz: file upload failed ( i forgot)

@hodayathink is running for president of Naughty America: Good its not only me then, i was thinkiing i got problems

Rav Gar

@Bricked: Please educate us. After all, you sound like an expert cocksucker.

@Guitarzan2k5: this

@iRaybot: E3 would collapse into a slanging match between Sony and MS, each claiming to have the largest HD breasts on their consoles, while Nintendo meekly sits there and announces their latest interactive waggle-fest: WiiPorn.

From what my fuck-buddy tells me, some of you guys need that Expert Guide to Oral Sex.

Bricked

@fELIXADER: man some people are into to porn the way some cinephiles are into foreign films. you can't always get that stuff for free

I, for one, welcome our porno dealing overlords with open arms a dirty mind.

Parapraxis

@iRaybot:
Microsoft can create the 'Indie Porn' section of the Xbox Live Marketplace!

MooglesInMyFace

@The Moof: keez movies.com
that's all i got to say

@Hyperpower!: That doesn't sound like a bad idea. I think there are tons of security issues with getting this setup and who knows if the DMV would be down for allowing this. Plus the Porn industry would have to foot the bill to set it up because you know Sony's not going to.

In either case, I think it's a good idea.

My only qualm with this is the fact that kids hitting puberty need to go this far to see what a vagina or a penis looks like. They shouldn't be mysterious items considering everyone has one or the other...or both.

@Hyperpower!: You make a good point, and that would work, but do you really want the DMV to know you rented porn? I'm not sure it's a good idea to get the government involved in this. Credit card verification should work just as well, and it is already used to purchase/rent porn online. Also, the big 3 consoles have parental controls, which could be expanded further to protect against access to this new content.

@Malfunktion v2:

i hope you get a room by yourself then...

@Antiterra:

However, if, for example Sony go for the idea, and somehow it boosts sales, MS will want in on the action too...imagine the porn bidding wars and one-upmanship that could occur, at E3 Sony announce that they are claiming the rights to BDSM, while MS begin exploring the Voyeur market...it's quite a thought.

iRaybot

@Crippen:
The day that the browser was first released my first stop was Kotaku and my second was one of the non-YouTube Tube sites, just to see if it worked. It did.

kingofallcosmos

@MPSai: I understand what your saying but...

im just inwardly 'loling' at the inevitable american parents raising hell and suing over little billys' wii porn habits.
Headline: "motion controllers gave my teenage son wankers wrist!" <

actionfitz

See on one hand (ahoho) consoles are for gaming, and on the other, the manufacturers seem very keen on turning their machines into all encompassing media-hubs. So it seems like a slightly skewed if logical step.

I'm also enjoying the "lol porn is free" posts. Well yes it is. As free as music and games and films are. And as legal to acquire free as well.

@MPSai: the fact that porn is like some giant skeleton in the closet when it comes to children only helps to increase the rate of teenage pregnancies and underage sex.

when is this country going to realize that by keeping things taboo and off limits to children, they just become that much more sought after? the same thing applies to the drinking age and drug use. if the thrill of doing something "bad" is taken away, then the overall usage and abuse should decrease dramatically.

Bubbleman!

@Destruction: Cute girl, but she's well and worn.

Yeah cause some clever kid couldn't just override the age verification and download mountains of porn. I'm sure the big three really want to set themselves up for massive lawsuits.

Isn't it enough we can get porn in video stores and online already?

gonna be a lot of people out there with dualshocks in one hand and "fapper's remorse" in the other...

Bubbleman!

@Lux Alptraum: One way our sex industry could (and should) imitate Japan's is by starting to invest in porn video games.

@GeneralBattuta: Could be a he, could be a she... I'm guessing a bit of both.

I feel a little sad inside for the fact as soon as I seen the picture my first thought was FAYE!

Destruction

@FannyRatLove: Ahahaha, assumption of cock bespeaks considerable inexperience. If Bricked is a he, fuck-buddy might be a she.

@Bricked: you win.

GeneralBattuta

@Lux Alptraum: The only reason that is true, is because we've got so many hang-ups about sex. Violence is just fine, but no boobs! I've yet to understand how sexual content is more damaging than gore.

@Lux Alptraum: Nothing wrong with dreaming. Nothing at all. :)

ps3 is mainly a game console.i understand that its all about money but it just doesnt feel right to me. after all the internet is full of porn images,videos,etc for anyone who is intrested.

mortalgod

@Flash_Donkey: Achievement Unlocked: Faptastic! one-handed control...

SigmundTheSeaMonster

Achievement Unlocked: You're a moron for paying for porn.

Flash_Donkey

@Hyperpower!: Its certainly an interesting concept and sounds quite tight in principle. Didnt even have internet when i was teenager so the only way to ever see porn was from mags. A mate would get hold of one and pass it on once he had a good *ahem* read of its many articles. Even then you needed a bloody good stash, vigilant parenting was more than enough to keep my young and innocent eyes from seeing anything more than a few centrefold type shots. I wouldnt say id totally oppose it on the PSN, i mean all the UK's pay per view TV packages carry the option for adult channels, there at the end of a channel list that includes kids tv and toons etc so i dont see a moral problem with it. On the security front, surely you would have to pay for it, how many under 18s have a credit card? It could be setup so that a card number needs entered each time along with a SecurID token number something like that. The SecurID token could be sent out once you have subscribed to the service, then its just down to the parents to keep it safe from their kids.

Gazuk50

This probably won't work.

Most people still live in the mindset that video-games are for children. That's why so many people still get their knickers in a twist over there being violent video-games. How mad do you think these people would be if consoles started having porn as well?

I dunno, I just think that it would be a lot less of a legal hassle if you'd just watch your copy of Anal Sluts 9 with the DVD function on your 360 or PS3. Or use the internet. That's pretty easy too.

Hunter-Killer-47

No, this is stupid. Consoles are for games, NOT FOR PORN!Soon Sony and Microsoft will show a downloadble Porn exclusive content that is available only on one console.Its like: OMG, Sasha Grey is exclusively for PS3!!1 I ll buy it.

And there will be a console war about porn movies.

Golgari

@Bubbleman!: I agreee.. And with that logic - We should also make violence off limits to children too.

You're TOTALLY correct - we should ban violent video games.

mrclam

@Golgari: I don't know about porn movies, more along the lines of porn distributors being console exclusive (of course, that would encompass the movies being exclusive too). Time for MS and Sony to start buying or teaming up with adult production studios!

@Lux Alptraum: See, and that's the key thing. In America video games are for small children so their parents don't have to talk to them. In japan, video games are for creepy shut-ins who play one handed anyway.

these public perceptions have a lot to do with how people perceive what they can and can't get away with. I really have no preference on porn on the PS3 because I don't have one, and I probably wouldn't use it for that anyway because, well, I got roommates and any sort of game console would be in a public position. The media, however will flip out. remember the kid who used his PSP and his school's wifi connection to look at porn? the news ran it like every PSP ships with porn and can magically create more. No one wants that again.

AWWWW YEAH 1080p TITTYS!

widowhams

@Kapwan: Why?

If games consoles were wholesome and pure i'd get your point.

But a lot of games have been shooting peoples heads off, and all manner of other pornographic violent acts.

Sex is something EVERY person will (hopefully) do in their lives - blowing someones head off with a shotgun (hopefully) not so much.

Why should sexual pornography be treated any different by gaming manufacturers than violent pornography?

Why SHOULDNT there be as many games featuring graphic sex as feature graphic violence? In fact, i'd argue that graphic sex is a lot MORE wholesome for of entertainment than graphic violence.

But it seems a lot of people think shooting someone in the face with a shotgun is okay, but shooting your load on someones face is wrong...

its no wonder the world is screwed up.

mrclam

@KillerBee: I agree, but I see this as a symptom of a larger problem. I'm not a consumer of porn ( too busy to sit around fapping ), but I find it disturbing that we are all perfectly fine with dismembering things with chainsaws yet we freak out about seeing two ( or more ) consenting adults fucking. It's just sad: brutal violence = ok, sex = big no-no.

I'm not advocating for the placement of porn on consoles, especially considering how easy it is to obtain through other channels, but I am lamenting the public perception of sexual activity and material that celebrates it. Why are exploding heads ok but not money shots?

@Hyperpower!: Simpler system:

Owning credit card = 18+
diallow cosigned credit cards.

Require credit card to even log into site or have SFW images outside of login area an NSFW inside.

Stolen credit card = careless parents

You can't do anything about that. They could just have their parents ID as well.

kingmanic

@braincadet:

I think you mean Faye Valentine...

I think i need to check out this "Expert Guide to Oral Sex"

*cough*

I love that they think the Wii "skews too young" for porn. It's not untrue, but... it's just funny.

@Antiterra: We tried our best to keep it a secret. We don't want any n00bs hassling wth our pr0n.

@Bubbleman!:

Already got that as I stream porn from the PC to my TV via the PS3.

Gervy

@kingofallcosmos:
My bad, according to the January 3rd, 2007 article on this subject, [kotaku.com] , my blog was the second site I visited. In any case, the Wii is now my "only-bring-this-system-out-at-parties..." console, so watching porn on it at those times might be a tad bit awkward.

kingofallcosmos

@shredmanifesto: If I could promote comments you better believe I would promote this one. We need more people like you running things over here.

Bubbleman!

@Hyperpower!:
because anyone who ever saw a picture of some boobs and wasn't immediately offended and repulsed is a dangerous pervert and belongs on a register?...
(removed tongue from cheek).

seriously though. Pr0n on consoles is unlikely and unnecessary. Considering how much of the worlds' Web traffic is porn related ;)
Also MS and Sony etc own their platforms, Considering the general perception of all things game related being inherently childish, our society's moral guardians heads would explode at the thought of porn on games consoles.

actionfitz

@shredmanifesto: Actually now that I'm a little more awake, this is probably the worst possible timing to be doing this in the West as they are just picking up a bit of momentum. Porn on a a kids PS3 that a minivan-driving-church-going-pill-popper... just bought for them is instantly going to be exchanged for something else.

That way the kids grow up dumber and unexposed than even previous generations over here did AND pill-popper soccer mom gets to feel like shes done something positive for her child for once.

I don't know, this just doesn't feel right. The PC's are for porn, not the gaming consoles!

This is just an invitation for another new type of "motion" controller to make the films more interactive, if you catch my drift. Yeah, try to un-imagine that.

@Destruction: I facepalmed when I realized I knew her name as well. Still, why her pic? Only reason I know she exist is because of her stage name. She's not very attractive. Should've gone with Lily Thai or, y'know . . . someone fap worthy.

Kanji08

Well, the PS3 "does everything" so it might as well "do" Debbie Does Dallas.

@grantanamo: That was more of an issue of poor journalism...ME wasn't trying to be edgy.

AMAGAD FAYE VALENTINE !

**fap fap fap fap fap fap fap**

THANKS KOTAKU !

America: "OMG hide the children!"

Europe: "Whats the big deal here, really?"

Japan: "Uhh are children are smart enough to not let something like this ruin there lives... even so ever wonder why we put parental content controls on the PS3?"

Even though we know porn will eventually show up in every form of new media, this still feels wrong. I'm not anti-porn at all, I just think it will be weird to see porn on my console.
It will be even stranger if they start making porn Arcade titles or Community Games. That would definitely become a major issue.

@Asterisk-CGY: Yeah, I was actually surprised when I saw that they resisted allowing porn on Blu-Ray. I mean, isn't that -precisely- how the winner of that format war was decided??

Tanneseph

@actionfitz: that's why this country is so fucked up. instead of parenting, parents put the blame on everything else but themselves. some of the upcoming generations in this country are going to be screwed when they hit their adult years. they have a sense of entitlement and no backbone to uh, back it up.

my parents never once talked to me about sex, i found out about it from the TV and some of those magical unmarked VHS tapes in my dad's movie collection. i'm actually probably better off for it, being exposed at such a young age. i didn't actually go out and do it for real until i was 17 and it's because it never seemed like a big deal to me.

Bubbleman!

@Malfunktion v2:
lap dancing bars in PS home?
:P

actionfitz

@Bubbleman!: Amen, sir, but it will never happen. It's the same reason I'm for the legalization of marijuana, even though I have no interest in smoking it (I have enough problems with my lungs, thx). Stuff like that only gets worse when it's pushed underground.

Tanneseph

@MPSai: cant they do that already on a computer but for free?

@Crash McCloud:

Consider you a former playstation 3 owner? Why? You're throwing it away just because some porn company sent a letter to Sony?

Either way... get over yourself.

ReconToaster.

@Crash McCloud: so naive. porn is great. its been around since the dawn of time. sex can be a beautiful thing. it doesnt even have to be what you described. heres the real kicker: plenty of girls like porn (maybe even your girlfriend).

but if youre telling me youre a guy and youve never looked at porn then im telling you youre a fucking liar.

@dd528: Its doesn't matter who he knows, or who you know. It shouldn't limit the tastes of others. Ever.

@Crash McCloud: Bwahahaha! You're so cute. Can I pinch your cheek, little fellar?

OtisElevator

@Crash McCloud:
Later, prude.

Buy a Vivid Video and stick it in your console of choice. Problem Solved. Porn ruins everything. Is vivid on itunes yet? If it isn't maybe you should attack that first.

@Crash McCloud: " I honestly I don't want to own something that allows shit on it."

Well, there goes the toilet and or TV!

I can already get porn on my PS3. For free. It has a web browser.

dd528

@Mancomb Seepgood: I've only seen her scenes with girls....so I'm not bothered. :D

Well Sony's new campaign is the console that does Everything, so yeah, porn is included in the category Everything.

Apparently they haven't seen some of the Premium PS3 desktops available for download - yowza!

I personally don't want porn anywhere on my PS3, but I'm not going to speak for all other PS3 owners.

It does open an opportunity to approach the discussion in an adult manner (no pun intended). I think if advanced parental controls were developed specifically to track PS3 usage, this discussion would take a more interesting course. Having features like tracking web-site visits, video file usage, automated email updates to parents from PSN I think would be great assets to parents.

This is an opportunity for Sony to enable parents to take a bigger stake in how their kids use these systems and not pass the parental responsibility to manufacturers. PC manufacturers (Sony included) have been dealing with this for years. As these systems become more PC-oriented, it's inevitable.

Eventually these young users do become legal, self governing parents. This seems a great opportunity to bring them into the discussion rather than talking down to them.

foamking

@Bubbleman!: Do you know a lot of women who go from first meeting you to full frontal nudity within 5 seconds?

dd528

@Dethgar: Shes pretty hot but 99% of her scenes are with her real life boyfriend which is a real turnoff for me.

@Crash McCloud:

1) You're on a PC. Hypocrisy much?
2) No-ones forcing you to watch it.
3) You're an idiot.

@Dethgar: You're not the only one who has a thing for Faye. High five!

@Tanneseph: Not really. I think the PS3 had more to do with it. Blu-Ray was already outselling HD-DVD 2:1 by the time the first porno released on Blu-Ray. It all comes down to marketing.

@Crash McCloud: .......really dude?

what are you typing on right now? like the computer is pure or something.

MushroomBoy1022

Well consider me a former Playstation 3 owner. I honestly I don't want to own something that allows shit on it.

I'm 19 and I prefer having a girlfriend than a TV screen with people screwing their "girlfriends"

"...Sony came around." giggidy

JetPogi

steve hirsh has long been a pissed off CEO due to the fact that his company,Vivid, no longer is the largest most sucessful adult film production company in the world. Vivid has lost ten of thousands of dollars in the past 5 years due to how easily and accessible is online (ie. youporn). I'm sorry steve, but you have to be a bit more innovative then to suggest to bring your AO content to the PSNetwork.every day type of films are just now making breaking into the innovation of digitallly distributed content and it will be years until such a thing as AO films even gets acknowledged for consideration.

is porn even on blu-ray yet?

BWAHAHAHA! Paying for porn! That's rich! That's way too rich!

Seriously, I'm never going to pay for porn. No one should be getting paid to have sex on or off camera. That's just sad.

Rocketknight

@Bubbleman!: You damn right.

Tabacoo industry running EVERY single non smoking ad since the 70s.

Reagan and Bush coming out directly and saying: "Crack is bad! Its cheap and easy to get right around the corner and everyone doing it... but you shouldnt because its bad." Funny seeing as how the CIA ran it all into this country.

Even in the Victorian age with sex and such...

You turn something into a taboo and automatically there is a demand for it among the retards, IE 90% of ANY population.

@MPSai: I doubt any parent would get a successful lawsuit if the proper restrictions are provided on the console.

Instead I'd counter sue said parents for neglect.

@Kapwan: Do you think it is strange to see porn on your computer?

An electronic is an electronic, most of the people who bought a PS3 did so because it was a media center focused around gaming. Not only that but look at the number of people that already have some porn on their PS3s.

It isn't abnormal, in the least bit. You and others are just prudes.

xbox 360 owner = i am 12 and what is this
wii owner = mommy why is that woman letting the guy hurt her
ps3 owner = (kool aid) oh yeahhhhhhhh

pneboy

I didn't bother to read the story, no offense. I just think it's completely ridiculous for them to even try.

On another note however, I have a THING for Faye Regan. Thank you for reminding me of her. <3

@Lackshmana: actually to most westerners who are used to women who groom themselves, it IS disgusting. nothing worse than seeing a drop dead gorgeous japanese girl, only to be exposed to her forest 5 seconds later..

but yeah, japan has some really weird viewpoints regarding sex, drugs and the like. then again, our ideals probably seem weird to them too. then on the other side of things you have germany....ah yes, good ol' germany..

Bubbleman!

@actionfitz: I think if it gets to that point, they might as well release a console version of Second Life.

@mrclam: because in america,

sex is wrong.

:P

curly haired boy

@shredmanifesto:

Yeah, one look at porn in Japan sorta throws that concept out the window.

Their children can see little girls being raped by tentacles, but there had damn well better be a tiny censor bar or mosaic over their genitals and pubic hair. Because THAT is disgusting.

@KindaGamey: You mean softcore? I think you can already find some of that on Netflix Watch it Now.

@Giroro G66: I read somewhere that Blu-Ray porn was basically disgusting, as you can see a little TOO much detail, quite literally 'warts and all'.

@Crash McCloud:
Porn = evil!
Controlling a character onscreen that kills people mindlessly = good!

PontiusPirate

@NecronomiconUK: To allow a dozen people to see and talk shit to him.

He deserves that for such a stupid fucking opinion.

I know HARDCORE Christians that would call this guy a retard.

@Crash McCloud:
That's funny, I assume you must be 11 or around there and just haven't started masturbating yet. I don't think any adults are this prudish.

@Zeidust: Yeah, the internet totally sucks now.

@Dave Villanueva: Also Faye Regan, but porn stars change names every time that they work with a new publisher.

@Crash McCloud: Oh, to be young and naive. You can have the best of both worlds. Just find a girlfriend that likes watching porn with you. Then you can watch your pie and eat it too.

worsethannormal

What about the old Showtime version of porn where there was always a chair or a potted plant in the way of the essentials? That would probably be acceptable.

@dd528: Seriously. It can't be that hard to create a PS3-friendly web site.

RawSteelUT

@Dethgar: I was embarrassed that I recognized her...

@Dave Villanueva: This man has what we call taste.

sadisticfreak432

@FannyRatLove: Win.

thehelixreaper

@dd528: ya they just really need to update the flash player LOL

@Kanji08: yes because beauty is not subjective.

Lincolnsbeard33

@Crash McCloud: you're a complete tool

@Crash McCloud: Porn also exists on the PC (oh god does it exist on the PC), Satellite/Cable TV, VHS, DVD, HD-DVD, and Blu-Ray, and I'm fairly sure there are audio CD's or at the very least porn sound tracks available.

Time to toss your entire collection of electronics and become Amish, because you just know Sony's going to start shoving porn ads down your throat and Microsoft's not long behind. And Nintendo? They already called it the Wii.

Runefox

Faye Valentine!

Dave Villanueva

@Mancomb Seepgood: If he's such an idiot (he is) why on earth promote his comment?

@Rocketknight: Right. It is no longer "actors and actresses" playing in a film. It is nothing but a bunch of horny guys with a couple of video cameras paying girls to allow them to screw them fourteen different ways in the guise of "adult entertainment". I wish California had the guts to shut down Vivid and company for noting more than soliciting prostitution. I love beautiful and sexy women, but have no desire to see some tattooed freak of nature blocking the view of the girl while he slobbers all over her for twenty minutes. Besides, high-def porn can be quite unappetizing to look at.

bornonce

@Antiterra: It's not an issue of platform; Cable TV, DVD, VHS, PC, Mac, iPhone... these are all platforms and you can watch porn with any of these technologies. The adult industry has always been a driver for new technologies, so expanding to video-gaming technologies is a natural progression.

What matters is whether or not there's a "market" for the expansion to a certain platform. Is there a market for adult media on gaming consoles? If a certain console's market demographic targets kids & elderly (Nintendo Wii?) then most likely the adult industry won't go there. However, if there is a console that sells well to single men, then there may be a market.

@worsethannormal: I see what you did there!

FrancesTheMute

nothankyou.jpg, this will create too much negative publicity for Sony anyhow. can you imagine on Fox news "PORN IN YOUR KIDS VIDEOGAMES!?" fuck, they already did that for Mass Effect, imagine what they'd do if there ACTUALLY was porn there!

pandafresh

@shredmanifesto: "America: "OMG hide the children!""

Yes because a lot girls once they become teenagers don't start dressing (and in most cases acting) like sluts. Face it, you can see pretty much everything just by taking a stroll down the beach because no one has any modesty anymore (and yes I know people will say all sorts of stupid stuff about that statement because this is the internet where 99% of people are extreme liberals that want babies take shots of whiskey in between hits of weed while they watch porn on one tv and play Halo on another).

cwbys21

@Dave Villanueva: funny, Gizmodo used Stoya for their article about this

FrancesTheMute

So Japan is okay with porn and whatnot, but the Left 4 Dead 2 box art is too graphic for them? I won't be getting porn on my consoles, but more power to you. Just make sure to be careful where you whip it out at and not give the 360 red balls. That's not a good time for anyone.

@Crash McCloud: "I don't want to own something that allows shit on it."

Well damn, then how do you excuse Damnation?

Gorilla Snow is Maximum Risky

PS3 is already the home of console porn, deals would only falter that prospect.

@Giroro G66: Yes. Porn helped sony win the HD format wars. You can even get Debbie Does Dallas on bluray. Debbie Does Dallas decides winners.

@Mancomb Seepgood: She just started shooting scenes with guys other than her boyfriend.

[fleshbot.com]

@PristineSneakers: lolzzzzzzzzzz

From now on I'm bringing my OWN Dualshock2 when I go to play over at a friend's house.

@Crash McCloud: Fuck you for having an opinion! LOL

No but seriously man, how did you expect people to react. Porn is great and the kicker is that there always the option to look away or not buy it. (=

@Bubbleman!: People need to face the fact the culture makes us look crazy to people from other cultures. I was traveling in Thailand and my GF and I were hanging out with a Thai school teacher one day when I sneezed. My GF said "bless you". The Thai looked at her and asked what she had said. She explained and the man looked at her like she was crazy. She then asked what Thai's say after someone sneezes and the teacher looked at her like she had just become crazier, because Thais don't say anything after a sneeze. It's cultural lunacy that we do stuff like this.

worsethannormal

@Crash McCloud: Easily one of the best trolls I've read on this site. Bravo.

@Crash McCloud: Can I have your PS3, then? I already have one, but a backup can't hurt.

Wow, I'd really like to read the letter that they send to Sony. Any chance that they'll CC you and you could post it up here?

@Crash McCloud: But killing someone (even though its virtual) is OK?? Jeez

@pandafresh: This.

LiquidDarsh

@Rocketknight: Hypocrite.

Godseye

@pneboy: Kill yourself.

MDX

I understand that the porn industry in the largest film industry in the world, but this is like having PPV porn on cable or satellite. They don't verify age there, why would they think it would be different on the PS3? Like an age verification system is going to stop a horny 14 year old from getting to through it. This is only going to fuel more argument from the crazies like Wacko Jacko Thompson.

Killer_WaLrUs

@Monolith: That's not what I'm saying. A person is more prone to becoming an alcy if it is introduced as a foreign entity later on in life.

In other words, they won't know how to handle it.

@shredmanifesto: I take it you don't know many Europeans if you think they aren't extremely fond of their sauce.

Monolith

@Rocketknight: you'll still watch it for free thought. That's pretty sad too.

@dd528: Sure, and usually within 5 seconds of the full frontal they are fully and frontally on the floor.

They're called the drunk ones.

tehsquish - Still plays Ultima Online

@Crash McCloud:
Your Paris Hilton blow up doll doesnt count as a girlfriend

Monsoon77

@cwbys21: Thats the whole point though...

The only reason these teenage girls are acting in such a manner is because its taboo.

Do you think someone is more likely to become an alcoholic in a European country where they grow up and are exposed to it everyday and not only that but their bodies are used to it.

Or here in the states where anywhere from ages 13-20 its a taboo cool thing to go out and get wasted just because you can?

You take away the taboo, you take away the rebellious nature behind that train of thought.

@Dethgar: yay faye!! and yeah... the whole boyfriend in every scene is annoying... especially when they pretend they've never met...

what i mean to say is... ewww porn is bad...

*fap fap fap

ch0mpchomp

Ok, I'm really curious about the name of the lovely lady in the picture above. There has to be someone out there who's watched more porn than I have or just happens to know who that girl is.

Anyone?

Frankly, I'm ambivalent to the issue of having filth on the PS3 or 360. Let's face it, I could be watching folk go at it hammer-and-tongs within 60 seconds of sitting down in front of a PC. It's not like it's not already widely available. Having it available through a console barely makes it any *more* available than it already is.

That said, I'll be *amazed* if Sony allows it. The family-friendly market is worth too much to them, even more so now the new price tag on a PS3 puts it within reach of the family consumer. And a few storm-in-a-teacup stories on Fox as we go into the holiday season could hurt them to the tune of millions of dollars.

Jonman

@tobybologna: Honestly, I've found the people that are most excited for porn to be the younger/more immature folk.

I can see where's he's coming from (it would really depend on how the product would be integrated, something I'm sure Sony would be smart about), though I agree it sounds pretty stupid to consider throwing away one's PS3.

@plebeianprint: She changed her name because of Cowboy Bebop, actually. She didn't know about it beforehand.

@NecronomiconUK: If you're a "star commenter" (their term, not mine) and reply to a non-star commenter's comment, the original comment automatically gets promoted whether you approve of it or not. For example, I didn't think your comment was worth "promoting," but did feel that it deserved a reply. Hence, your comment is now promoted.

Communist Pope

@Crash McCloud: Crazy thing this porn, two people can watch it at the same time. Like say a boyfriend AND girlfriend, or any other arraignment you can think of.

Just because people watch porn, doesn't mean their doing it alone and for masturbation reasons.

By the way I love the choice of Faye Reagan.

Why not? I think 360 would be more appropriate however since Sony & Nintendo are adamant about not having AO games on their consoles.

AlucardsQuest

All I know is that I discovered Bing.com's video search the other day through a lovely Digg article...and...yeah. Just do it.

noelix

@pluckylump: Wait...one animal killing the another isn't natural? And don't pull any "species don't kill others of their species" BS either because there are plenty of species that do kill their own kind.

AOClaus

@LiquidDarsh: Besides, this kind of thing is easy enough to google on the old interweb. I don't think we really need it streaming to our consoles.

AOClaus

@MPSai: They could do that... OR they could type 'porn' into google. That's actually what I do when I want to watch porn and it works quite well.

Spiderbait

@TearsandScreams: Actually, judging from sites such as myfreepaysite, porn can be free and not illegal.

Spiderbait

@[myspace.com]):

They also censor their porn as well. Male and female genitalia are censored using a mosaic blur.

Not that I've seen it or anything.

@[myspace.com]): Makes more sense to me to be okay with sex over being okay with violence. One's natural and the other is horrible and illegal.

@FannyRatLove:

Hey you got to pay tuition first, and be willing to perform an oral exam and the end of course if you want me to teach you.

Bricked

@MDX: I think pneboy falls between wiiowner and xbox owner.

Spartan117x

@[ZTF]Is my Name: can comment-of-the-week nominations be made for noteworthy DUMB ones? cuz this definitely deserves one.

xblindx

@Spartan117x: You're right...because the moment they saw a black person or gay they would have been up in arms.

This...will...never...happen.

@[bluray.ign.com]

@only777: I'm an American and I approve this message.

@t4paN: I've seen her as Faye Valentine but I'm sure she has several names.

@Crash McCloud: You sir are a bigot and a fool. Your a bigot because you think your opinion is wholly correct and people should conform to your point of view unquestionably. Your a fool because you ACTUALLY think that people you have a girlfriend decide not abstain from porn for the entire period of time that they are in a relationship and implying that their girlfriend satisfies all their needs. This is just not true.

peterpanpiper2

@t4paN: Bet you felt old when you found that out didn't you. Don't worry son, it only gets worse.

@Kiriai:

I don't think any reasonable adult would feel this way about pornography. Maybe that's just me, but it seems he has a "girls are icky" approach to the matter, which is distinctly immature. Pornography is not immoral. Not unless you're living in the 1800's, that is.
I suppose it's possible he has a family, doesn't want his young ones to see it, but it's obvious it would be well concealed if it were even on the store.

@sirspankalot: Ditto.

postcards

@peterpanpiper2: Wuts /b?

@peterpanpiper2: rules 1 and 2 noob.

dmc666

@AmnesiacJack: Damn that was pretty fast, Amnesiac dude. Thanks ^^

/edit by the gawds, she's 3 years younger than me. Dayum, how did it happen that all of a sudden I'm older than pornstars?

@DirtyLarry_OfficialArtificial: Sony makes alot of promises they can't keep. It is a little inappropriate how they make a statement and then change it a day later.

peterpanpiper2

@pandafresh: Fox news is a joke.

Mass effect with graphics sex scene on se"xbox" with Cooper Lawrence.

How can you take a headline like that seriously in any universe?

peterpanpiper2

This is too awesome for words...

I can get my /s on without going to /b

peterpanpiper2

@pluckylump: Yeah, SEX is normal. Then you throw in some of the weird stuff that they tend to like (tentacles, anyone) and that's not sex anymore. That's just freaking weird.

So fun! :) Love these conversations, thanks, comments, for the beautiful scenery of ideas. For me, it's mostly "ONOES! There's people having intercourse with each other in my mass murder simulation! WTH!" /sarcasm

It would be a sensible move to the porn industry. Easy availability, easy purchase, consoles with working parental control (and if they aren't, it means it should be updated to make it more resilient to children.)

Like there isn't any illegal porn on PSPs and PS3s already, like there isn't any porn on PC, over the Internet (remember in the early days where everyone on the Internet was a pervert-pedophile-or-worst), and like there isn't already a freaking crapload of wallpapers showing scantily clad young girls (or drawings) already available for a purchasing fee (and don't tell me they don't sell, if they didn't, they wouldn't be there). It's so mainstream it even went as far as children finding stashes inside their used consoles purchased in some big chains. So why not capitalize on the system and allow full-fledged legal porn over our consoles.

Let's be honest here. Consoles like DSi start up asking for a parental control code. Consoles have all the parental control information available handily. Actually purchasing something would require a credit card, that's supposed to be made available to responsible adults only. And games are supposed to be under adult supervision, as everyone tells us, TV is not a nanny. Finally, if they allow that, there would be a freaking lot of red tape to make sure you are actually legal to download that stuff. So if a kid is getting his thrills over PS3 with some parent letting it happen, it's bound to revert to some bad parenting.

@doyleman7: haha is that your favorite porn star there mr. crecente? :O

@t4paN: Faye Reagan, I think :D

AmnesiacJack

@AOClaus: You know the case is different with humanoids. Don't be an idiot.

Marouku

I'm just amazed that people still pay for porn...

sirspankalot

Hooray for Faye Reagan (the girl in the picture)!

Steve Hirsch is the biggest tool in the business. Its just been a while since hes seen his face in the news so this is another way for him to blubber nonesense and get some coverage.

CorinneBear

@dd528: Lol yes it does.

If they offer Sony a few billion dollars to put this crap on PSN, then we can all name the console PornStation 3 XD

I'd rather have DMM's excellent selection than the boring stuff that Vivid puts out! Yuma Asami puts all the vivid girls to shame! Japan always gets the best stuff...

sonnycorinthos

Maybe its becuase Im European and 29, but I find some peoples comments very strange.
I remember playing porno games when back in on ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64/Atari ST/Amiga, so why people would find playing an porno game on PSN/XBLA strange seems funny.

And if people want to download porn via PSN, I say fair play. I have seen Blu-Ray porn already and 1080p boobies are great! And people are not weird or stange if they want to watch porn. We all like to see naked women, and sometimes our girlfriends are not around/ are not well so porn can be a relaxing outlet!

It is funny just how different European views are to American.

only777

So you don't own a TV or a computer or a radio? Because all of those things "allows shit on it".

Don't be retarded... if you don't want porn on your PS3, don't download/buy it. Exactly the same way you use your computer, there's porn on the internet, doesn't mean you ban the internet, you simply avoid it.

MirandaErmine

Everyone should stop pretending that porn is bad...

wow its a cheap move for sony to beat xbox 360 -_- they should just get more games NOT porn

ToinetteAhenobarbus

I would so date her (I'd get her parents permission first, obviously)

TarnishedReputation

I'm all for this movement, because I feel that 'porn' is just another art in the film industry. What's so different between seeing heads and arms getting cut off than a natural thing that most humans will participate in sometime in their life.

However, knowing how prude and ignorant parents can be at times, I can see how this could blow up and destroy the image of Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. When gaming is finally becoming accepted in our nation, this could easily come along and destroy everything that has come along.

Like I said, I'm all for this. We'll see.

MacroPlanet

Gees.. I didn't even read the article, just got stuck on the picture of Faye Reagan (aka Faye Valentine).

Her and Sunny Lane really need to get together... like now.. seriously.

diverguy

@Lincolnsbeard33: My post stated my opinion?! HOW UNCANNY.

Kanji08

Yeah cause all the 18+ accounts on xbox are totally not kids who are 12.

Gonna lead to parents getting pissy, ms saying "SORRY YOUR KID LIED DERP DERP" and parents getting their asses handed to them.

i want to see the rest of that pic... =P

EellenMarigold

I've said it a million times. Why pay for porn? It's FREE everywhere.

lol, couldn't they have watched some porn on the built in blu ray before this came up?

AdamMippie

@dmc666: wait, what

dmc666

This has bad news written all over it. Kids are smarter than we think and even with parental controls they'll find a way to see it if it hits the PS3.

This will only further the stereotype that video games are corrupting our children's minds. It is not a very good idea. I'm sure there's porn available in HD somewhere on the internet.

Vault-Droog

@dmc666: the other 5% will vomit uncontrollably

dmc666

@Vedli: Well, to be honest I had already started feeling old the day Emma Watson turned 18 and her upskirt pics hit the net.

I think I liked it better when (porn)stars were older than me.

@dmc666: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dmc666

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dmc666

@Deunan: clever.

dmc666

Nice thought. Never going to happen!

The negative publicity would make "Sexbox" and Hot Coffee look like an exercise in holding hands and pitching woo.

But more importantly, the legal implications. Full blow, honest to god pornography is a legally restricted category of material in almost every country, with distribution heavily regulated. Sony as a online distributor, would have to navigate an international legal minefield.

Even assuming they bypass that insurmountable hurdle, there's the issue of child protection. Parental locks on the PS3 are inadequate. But then, they could never be adequate because there's no age restriction on the console itself! Something tells me Sony don't want to rebrand their console as an exclusively adult affair.

Jonathan Davies

I'd be pretty shocked if Sony agreed to this; Fox would have a field day with it and I can't even imagine what kind of shit storm they'd be facing when kids inevitably figure out how to bypass the age verification systems. I'm also kind of surprised Vivid is pushing so hard for this deal. Gamers tend to be the internet savvy types and I imagine most of them would just browse through the adult catalog and then go torrent anything that catches their fancy. Then again, I've always found it baffling that the porn industry has blossomed in our internet era instead of going bankrupt. I guess people will pay for pretty much anything as long as big boobs are involved.

I might have to get a PS3 now. HOORAY for porno!

SlowDaddie

Faye Reagan. She's a cutie. I love me some Stoya Doll, Dani Jensen, Tanner Mayes, Nicole Ray, Kiki Vidis, Alexis Capri, Madison Ivy. So many hot porno chix!

Velo214

The funny thing about this is that all kids are aware that XBL limits you pretty severely if you admit to being under 18, so everyone lies. Doing this = roughly equivalent to advertising porn to kids. Its not like they can't get to it, but offer it and it becomes available to the 9 year old who set his age high so he download the Gears map packs.

endless852

Even I was the type of person to pay for porn, which is retarded because there are many ways to find it for free or meet real girls outside digital land and Playstation Home, does the benefit outweigh the risk involved?

Also, what about annoying ads? Sharing my personal information with Vivid and third parties whom monitor my personal information? Will I be prompted with a moneyshot and a link to buy more Vivid videos in the middle of loading the XMB? Will PS Store have a splash screen pop up ad of a chick getting destroyed in a gang bang? No thanks.

Maybe I am just paranoid but the new 3.0 firmware points to more ad space and an opportunity for companies to reach their audience. Keep my porn and games separate.

Ok I see a lot of brain dead monkeys decided to reply to my post so here's another post just for them. This post is meant for just the people who think I'm stupid because I don't obsess with porn like they do.

1. I never said sex was a bad thing, I said porn is a bad thing.

2. You really think this well help sales on the Playstation 3? No it won't something like this would actually kill the Playstation 3 because parents will no longer buy the console for their kids and more kids play games nowadays than adults do.

3. I agree that some things can be tasteful but next to everybody thinks that the only way to do it is to have a man or a woman begging for mercy from it.

Did anyone else chuckle at the idea of Nintendo allowing porn on their system?

I have an insatiable lust for redheads, but Jesus Christ in a chicken basket Faye Reagan is ugly as hell. I also hate her since she uses the name Faye Valentine, I get really disappointed when people make threads about porn and use that name when I get in there and see they meant her and not the real one from Cowboy Bebop.

Rajolae

You know what...I'm with Sony on this one...leave porn the hell off the ps3. Keep it on the PC where it belongs.

Desanvium

@spinning_piledriver: If they're smart enough to get past parental controls on ps3, something tells me they would be able to do it on pc too.

oh shit Faye Reagan, she's my favorite pornstar... how did you know, kotaku?

@MacroPlanet: I don't think most legitimate arguments against porn are against the idea of sexuality, but instead are against the way that 95% of porn is very degrading to women.

@Crash McCloud: Sell your PC while your at it, and if you have a cable TV subscription, sell it.
Some channels show nudity actually, TV? sell it.
Have you ever had sex with your girlfriend in your bed?
Sell it.
In the house??
Sell that shit too.

Now, for things that allow shti on it, sorry, but you are going to have to stop using Toilet Paper, and that Toilet, you know what you are going to be doing with that? Oh yeah, thats right, your selling it.

@spinning_piledriver:
Exactly.

I mean seriously, is it not good enough for them that you cant go 5 clicks on the net w/o having some porn ad shoved in your face?

Is nothing sacred anymore? Stay off my consoles smut peddlers. If i want smut i'll find it myself.

string_theory

All over my-my..uh... controller!

@Rocketknight: What about prostitutes?

please NO!

@KillerBee: I understand what you're saying, but I guess I'm not making my point very well.

If companies like Sony and Microsoft want their consoles to be more general purpose and used for all forms of home entertainment, then they need to change the way people think about these devices. Right now, you're absolutely right in that they think of games, and then of kids, and thus things like porn is inappropriate.

Now, I'm not advocating porn per se, but all sorts of things that are associated with mature people seeking home entertainment. If these companies are to achieve their goals, then they have to evolve the perception of what their devices are capable of doing. Providing a safe place for adults to purchase/view porn is a *part* of that. Maybe they should include it as part of some sort of suite of expanded capabilities.

But, again, my main point is that they need to cause the mainstream public's perception to change if they really are serious having their products evolve into a fuller home entertainment experience.

Hope I was more clear this time.

Tuor_of_Gondolin

@EellenMarigold: here ya go!

@Crash McCloud: Good for you Crash. Stand your ground.

Boilerbuzz

@QuantaStarfire: even so, it's not like the gaming industry is THAT far behind in overall revenue.

@d4rlp3nc1l: Yeah, that's what i was thinking, but this, i assume won't just be "How old are you? mm/dd/yyyy" But i have no idea how they can truly verify you're 18+

wazzzup16

@diverguy: I skimmed the comments PRAYING that I wasn't the only perv who recognized Faye Reagan. Thank you sir.

@Dr Drew In The Hizzaaaay: lol. No lie, me too.

@Mit: That's not porn by the way, that's just a nude art.

Only idiots don't sign up as 18+ to begin with. Everyone I know has been doing that since we where kids. Not that it matters now.

AtticusSP

@Sarcasmancer: Not everyone torrents everything. And a lot of porn that you torrent probably came from someone who paid for it first. There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying for porn. Especially if it is some high quality stuff.

Dark_Emerald

"The Wii seems to skew a little young."

wait what, i thougt old people played the wii, the young kids are on xbox live playing halo and call of duty.

for the wii also?
well then.. wii jokes will just keep coming

kilikafinal

@OmegaVader: "Porn consistently outsells box office and even video game sales, so they have a significant amount of influence."

The amount of porn released every year would suggest that their development cycle is a lot shorter. That might have something to do with the sales figures. ;)

First of all, how are they going to determine who is of age or not, there is not a single way that enforces age restrictions, unless that person is in person trying to buy something.

On the internet its as simple as 1 click to look at porn, and to watch m rated videos its retarded too, I always select my age as the oldest, sometime I'm 100 years old, although I'm 21.

When I created my gamertag on live when I was 17, I created it as saying I'm 18. And say your on xbox, every video has a short preview, and lets not forget if you have a younger sibling, as once an item is purchased, all accounts on that xbox can view it.

I have no problem with porn on the xbox or playstation, but that media should only be allowed on a dvd fromat, not digital, end of story.

btw... You really want porn go into the bathroom and film yourself, then watch it, or look at the sunday ads, in the underwear section, your looking at softcore pron. ha ha ha.....

When I saw Faye Reagan/Valentine I thought somehow Kotaku was cross-promoting with Fleshbot. That would make me happy.

@Zombeezee: Comment of the Week.

Not happening. period.

@Sarcasmancer: Porn stars are celebrities. People show their support to see the porn they like with their dollars. Pirates have less say than the people who fork over the moola.

Speaking of porn, just came across this Gawker Artists ad on Kotaku. Seems like some fish need to be deployed, even if it is art _

@threaddew: You forgot to mention that the vast majority of porn plots are even thinner than game plots, if they even exist at all.

@Jonathan Davies: Excellent reference.

Sony's refusal to allow porn on Betamax was part of the reason if failed. Porn consistently outsells box office and even video game sales, so they have a significant amount of influence.

That said, though, I doubt any of the console manufacturers would be willing to do it when video games still get so much flak from parents and family-value organizations.

OmegaVader

@Communist Pope: Thanks dude, explains it all. I though it was a pricky thing people were doing to promote a moron just so they could beat them down and everyone could see.

@tobybologna: He is, undoubtedly, a virgin whom has never had a girlfriend, I would not doubt his age. He also probably has a porn addiction. He is trying way too hard to be anti-porn in an attempt to make one think he has a girlfriend and has sex with said girllfriend.

TexasJack

Yeah, because your wife doesn't hate your xbox enough already, now it shows porn ads when you turn it on.

@NeVeRMoRe666: PS3 has had free porn for years, so I doubt having the option yo buy it will go down too well. Oh and can you imagine your gamertag status "Watching Midgets Suck Clowns 6"

Mike Newlad

The word "unnecessary" comes to mind

Togala

@Showmeyomoves!: Well yes that is a useful feature.

@Coollead: Yea but that was a game and a shit one at that tbh, can you really see Nintendo officially supporting porn (The Adult Channel for example) on their 'family console'? I think not, homebrew is Vivids only hope for some form of integration on the Wii, in fact wasn't there a Wiibrator homebrew app? That shit was hilarious.

Openly supporting porn even with all the right parental controls isn't something that any current game console wants to do really, while some money could be made off of it, the amount of negativity wouldn't be worth it in the long run imo.

Uh-oh, I smell an arms race akin to betamax. Whoever scoops up this deal first, be it xbox or Sony or...um, the wii? is going to win the console war pants down.

@d4rlp3nc1l: that's where parents come in. They can set parental controls and lock the system with a password, kinda like your cable box.

worsethannormal

@Crash McCloud: Well I'm 38, and I prefer my fiance, who does not mind watching a TV screen with people screwing their girlfriends while I'm screwing her. She also doesn't mind blindfolds, handcuffs, video cameras and full-sized mirrors while we do it.

See, that's the cool thing about living in a free society, there is room for all types of POV.

I say if Vivid wants to bring adult entertainment to PSN, then Sony should let them - it's not like anyone is actually buying many games on PS3 anyway.

In a day an age when the vast majority of gamers are adults in the first place (the mean age for gamers being between 24 and 36), Sony stands to make far more money on PSN by having adult films there, than by not.

Meanwhile, the idiots at Microsoft have proven themselves to be as prudish as The Inquisition. Vivid could pay Microsoft millions to put adult entertainment on LIVE, and Microsoft would still turn them down. And just like with blu-ray, adult entertainment would become a major selling point for the system. Matter of fact, because of the universal nature of pornography and humanity's natural propensity to gravitate to anything relating to sexuality, I'd go so far as to say, that adult entertainment on PS3 would be a much larger selling point than bluray ever was.

If Sony wants to turn away the extra revenue, especially after spending years putting their company in a fiscal sinkhole, I guess they can. After all, after already throwing away billions on PS3, it is not like Sony does not need the money anyway.

InvaderPhlegm

Will we get a game where we fight Faye Reagan's genital warts?

They should call it "Cryosurgeon MD: Vegas Nights" Edition.

@Desanvium: I have three words for you...integrated web browser.

It can already be accessed via a network connection on the console.

Wow. Just wow.

doughboyx

@Crash McCloud: your 2nd point is a little flawed. Parents by PC's and/or let them use it as much if not more than consoles. The same precautions would need to be put in place to place to access the material.

Besides, you can go on your PS3 web browser and visit any porn site you want if the settings aren't in place.

This whole argument is about the sale of porn digitally and not the more easy methods of sticking in a dvd or blu-ray or even using the console's web browser.

In short, they can get it if they wanted regardless of this outcome.

@pandafresh: I'm from the future. Tragically no one will pay attention to actual porn being available. It's a catch 22, they'd have to admit to actually having used it to prove it.

j/j

In all seriousness I don't think this will happen... in America.

@sirspankalot:
Ditto, Ditto.

Oddly enough I have to say no here! Besides I can look at enough free porn on my PC, so why should I pay for it on consoles? .
<.<

SuprShin

@NeVeRMoRe666: That comment made me lol, good job.

@zeroknight: Mm, but in none of the present ways of getting porn are Sony seen to be supporting the industry. If however Sony does make adult videos available through its store then it WILL be seen as supporting it. I think that would be what changes parents' opinions of the console.

However it will just end up coming down to communication and marketing. If Sony is able to communicate how well they will block youths from seeing the porn and are select enough in their marketing to only target adults then they should be able to pull this off.

*How* they will stop children from being able to access the porn is kinda beyond me, but I'm pretty confident that they wouldn't go ahead with this deal if they couldn't think of a good way to make it work.

I don't really know much about the general way most people go about getting porn, but does anyone really ever pay for porn anymore?

@Mit: I don't like the tone of those quotation marks, young man. When I was 13, my mom never bought the "it's not porn, it's art" line, either. Me and Larry Flynt took her to court. We lost.

@Crash McCloud: I had to log on after I noticed you were on my friend's list for some reason.
Had to unfriend you.. it's embaressing.

Sex is okay but porn is not? Grow up.

@DSveno: This. Free stuff always pales in comparison.

Yes, it's not "porn". Yes, it's "art".

However, if I was 13 years old, my mother damn well wouldn't approve of me viewing that. There's also been less-risque stuff that's been fished before.

@Crash McCloud: Yeah, just because a woman is naked, and apparently spattered with the Miami Vice color scheme, doesn't make it fish-worthy. Unless you're into that.

I've always found it kind of interesting the kind of reputation porn and sex seems to have developed, particularly in relations to our "pure" children.

The idea of privacy within a home, that is having your own space, your own room, is a fairly recent one. Relative to the length of history, it wasn't that long ago that the average family still slept together in a common room, children with their parents. And I'm fairly sure people back then still had sex as well.

I don't mean that they were exhibitionists back then, but the children must have been aware from a fairly young age of the concept of sex, as vague as their knowledge of it is. So how did we arrive at where we are today.

@SuprShin: Sexy HD

DSveno

@NecronomiconUK: No problem. I thought the same thing until I got my "star" and discovered that it's hardwired into the commenting system (I really hate the star system, BTW; too elitist for my tastes).

Communist Pope