Japanese Movie Theater Using PS3 To Play Movie

I'd love to hit that... the setup...

@Jadakra: Citizen Kane actually won't play from a PS3, or any black and white movie for that matter. You know, no more backwards compatibility and all...

@lolgreg: And this comment is an example of why you are a star commenter, best comment I've seen all day XD

tdk08

@All: Oh hush up all of you :^D

"It's the quality of the digital projector that folks should be more concerned about."

Especially true in huge theaters. If the video's fine but the projector's crap, you will get all sorts of weird discoloration, regardless of quality of the file.

And "cheap"? Really? It's better than using a "high-risk of damage" film reel. In fact, in this way [hard drive], it's more economically efficient for the theater.

Now as for pirating on the other hand...

(Starman) AnalysisDialysis

@Demonbird: I applaud you. Great comment.

ThisUserNameIsTooLong

@Demonbird:
Nice.

If you can only imagine the possible message list during screening.

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I watch that movie on torent.

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Sorry bout that. Conect error.

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What's Kara no Ky?

Put goldwings in block list?

@geiko: It might explain why zombies have such a knack for getting filled with lead :P

@(Zombie) Goldwings: ... party pooper.

SuperZombieMonkey

@Demonbird: [Insert whine about lack of backwards compatibility here]

Jadakra

There's a Japanese internet?!?!

ionicc

@(Zombie) Goldwings: I didn't know zombies we're required to kill all our late nite Kotaku fun. (-_-)

@hoboninjapirate: EXACTLY

NO BETAMAX D:<

@Black_STAR: NO BETAMAX

@(Zombie) Goldwings: It'd still be embarrassing to be watching a movie and right at the good part it says "Please change your name LORD_COCK_MONGLER"

@ThreeOneFive: Promote a starred commenter? lol.

Invisible-Echidna

@(Zombie) Goldwings: Soooo 90's.

@lolgreg: I would promote this if I could.

@Black_STAR:
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xD

Projectionist's duties:

Turn on PS3 \ Video \ Kara.no.Kyoukai[2007]DvDrip[aXXo]

lolgreg

@Mister Jack is credit to girly team!: Not possible since you'd be asked to change your user name.

hmmm....it does everything?

It only does everything.

So what?

That would certainly be embarrassing to be watching a movie and right at the good part it says "LORD_COCK_MONGLER HAS NOW SIGNED IN" or something in the upper right corner.

Mandatory Install ?

chos3n

VCR FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black_STAR

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: ..But boob sounds funnier..

@atomicstrawberry: Have you not seen them? Seriously?

@Blyr: I hate the word "boob". You're a grown man, for goodness sake! Say "tits" or "breasts" or "talent".

I see boobs.

And blood.

and swords.

Where do I sign up?

@Neko_Tech: The Japanese ARE the internet!

DUN DUN DUNNNNN

lolgreg

@atomicstrawberry: It's probably with the amount of blood, that it got put in that genre. I was thinking or more along the lines of a mystery/detective movie.

zerokoolpsx

@ionicc: I know right, I thought the Japanese would be IN the internet or whatever the new fangel term is. Heck I thought they have them digital implants to jack in the web.

[That was sarcasm for those who didn't get it]

There's a KnK bluray release? I thought they'd only released it on DVD. It'd be awesome in HD, too.

Incidentally that one-line description, while factually correct, is a fairly inaccurate representation of what the film series (there's seven total) is about. I'm not even sure I'd classify them as horror films.

atomicstrawberry

If anyone has not seen this movie series, I heartily recommend it. I actually watched it on my PS3 too... via PS3 Media Server.

Really embodies many of the things that got me watching anime in the first place: great story, memorable (twisted) characters, impeccable artwork and animation, great action sequences, and - best of all - an awesome soundtrack.

Oh, and it's not your typical moe tripe. Thank goodness. Only thing against it is that it's a bit confusing if you don't have at least some knowledge of the novel it's based on, but even then, the sheer atmosphere will keep you watching.

As long as the quality are the same, it doesn't bother me, just don't raise the general admission price again. Every year it seems to jump a buck.

Kara no Kyoukai is one of the better animes, that I seen. It confused me since it wasn't in chronological order, but I still enjoyed watching it. It's the anime that got me hooked on TypeMoon. That's how I found about Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night and Melty Blood.

I'm honestly waiting for a bluray version to come out, so I can buy it.

zerokoolpsx

Is it like this?

@Jadakra: It only does everything if you were smart and bought a backwards compatible PS3. That's the only thing YOU had to do.

bkld18

@Bouzi thinks Homer+Mumu=Sexy!: Not exactly an elegant solution.

@deanbmmv: I completely agree. Drives me nuts.

Alternate

@deanbmmv: just sign off of PSN

There is nothing mayor new to this article, in fact most cinemas out there got all wierd kind of things setup, My uncle's cinema got example just an standard digital HDTV box to project lots of live things ( :P nothing fancy about this ) same goes for BD-Player there is nothing special required for those either.

On other hand the means of decoding the video doesn't really matter to much now days it's really just the projector and the audio system who does matter. There is not many out there with home cinemas who can beat an TRUE DTS system ( I'm not talking fake shit here, if you don't know what a TRUE DTS is don't even comment ) and good projectors, however a good projector now days doesn't cost to much, they cost as much as projectors did at start. But the audio system is a different matter :P Just the DTS decoder alone surpass 10k$

@ThreeOneFive: We still have a betamax at home....... it's awesome XD

@(Zombie) Goldwings: They so need to turn off notifications when watching a film. get's kinda distracting when you have mates around watching a flick.

@Dozer72: Try it!

Even if you can't, I'll still call you that from now on if you want.

@wanion: Funny you should mention that, as Citizen Kane was one of the first movies I watched on my PS3. Huh, I guess I got one with BC.

@MugiMugi: Oh hey, just wanted to comment and say I don't really know what a "TRUE DTS" is.

@Mister Jack is credit to team!: can I change my kotaku ID to LORD_COCK_MONGLER??

Dozer72

@marklip: That's like AT-AT backwards.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: What about TA TAs?

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Boob

Payka

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUCKKKKK I already imported the first six DVDs, and now they tease us with potential Blu-Ray versions. But these movies are so beautiful, I know I will end up buying the Blu-Rays anyway. In fact, I'm surprised that there hasn't been a BD release yet. Or rather, knowing the home video release practices of Japanese companies, I'm not really surprised.

darksteel1989

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Don't you think you're limiting yourself a bit? You've left out boobies, melons, knockers, funbags, sweater pillows, jubblies, jigglers, and (for when you're feeling a bit esoteric) chesticles. And that's nowhere near the top of the twinpeaks.
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mikhailian

Haha wow.

Interesting idea. And if it works just as well as the usual setup, then what would be the problem?

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: JUBBLES

@Cubby: Strongly Agree With that.
This movie is EPIC.
It gave me a huge impact to my life since Evengelion.

@deanbmmv: Does signing in as "not available" not block messages?

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: LOLZ "talent." INDEED.

DrezKill

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Needing only three minutes to come up with AT-AT's on that one is a talent. Tits aren't a talent. They're 'two good points', maybe.

meowmixx

@hoboninjapirate:
Actually, I work as a projectionist and you'd be surprised the formats we have to deal with. Beta still exists, and even looks great on the big screen. Technically, it's DigiBeta, but it still comes on one of those big-ass tapes and we have to have a special player hooked into an HD digital projector for it. While most of what I deal with is 35mm film, when a movie does come in in a digital format, DigiBeta is far more common than DVD.

My theater is not technically equipped for Blu-ray, but there have been a few special screenings where I've brought in my own PS3 and hooked it up. Running a Blu-ray through the HD projector looks great, and given the cost is usually a better option for whomever is renting the theater for the show. Getting a 35mm print across the Canada/US border costs a goddamn tonne, so not a lot of special events will bother. They'll just ask us if we can handle a Blu-ray, and I'll roll with it from there. Given that I've done it myself on several occasions, I don't really get why this is news.

miffy495

@deanbmmv: Just selecting "sign out" is less elegant than going through a couple menu levels to disable notifications?

@JayD: Nope.

@brass2themax: If you have, you'd understand why calling them horror films is kind of questionable. They're not there to unnerve or frighten you. They're more mystery, or hell, even thriller and supernatural than horror.

Wizard

You know what, it's not just "a hard drive is a hard drive". If you see ps3 popups, it's using the ps3's video out. Doesn't that only support up to 1080p? Most theaters use at least a 2k image if not a 4k image. If I'm only going to watch it 1080p, I might as well put a projector in my basement for when it comes out on blueray!

michaelthegreat

@lolgreg: Roflmao. True true.

Now to find that file.......

garytek

@(Zombie) Goldwings:

I don't have a PS3, but that's just lol.

garytek

@MugiMugi: whats a true dts

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: tits beats out boobs? Really? And lulz @ "talent."

Rajolae

Digital Cinemas project at higher resolutions than "full HD" 1080P. . .

At least the good ones do.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:
I call them, "oppai".

@Rajolae: Talent is a Valid term, thanks to the Sailor Moon dub:
[www.google.co.uk]

No one has suggested can cans yet? Or is that butt?

It probably is "cheap on the part of the cinemas." After all, if they're using PS3s to play the movie I'm guessing the regular hardware used for playing this type of stuff must be much more expensive.

psycoking

Man Kotaku... I am seriously Disappointed with this story. You neglect to mention that this movie is also a Prequel to Melty Blood, one of the best Japanese Street fighting games on the planet.

LuppyLuptonium

@MugiMugi: Given that the wikipedia article for DTS makes no mention of any "TRUE DTS" and google only returns 2,100 hits, I suggest you're (at least partly) talking out of your arse. Perhaps you're thinking of some particular DTS decoding setup.

DTS is a format commonly used for storing muti-channel audio and is used on DVDs and BDs. DTS-HD MA a variant which is very flexible and supports very high bitrates and an almost unlimited amount of discrete channels. DTS-HD MA is supported on BD but is limited to certain bitrates and only 8 channels.

However, to say there's nothing major in this article is rubbish. Films are usually projected at much higher resolutions than 1080p since they're being projected onto a much larger screen than a HDTV. On the other hand, if there is no better source for the film, then I don't see how using a PS3 is a problem (aside from it not being designed for this sort of presentation - the onscreen battery indicator is evidence of that).

Given that the PS3 outputs a digital signal over HDMI without any scaling or other transformation, the actual digital projector used will have a much bigger impact on the quality of the picture.

Azquelt

So... should I read the book first then watch the film to complain on how badly they made it. Or watch the film first then read the book, only to complain how dull the original is?

Or is Nasu and ufotable too AWESOME to make both renditions fail?

@LuppyLuptonium: Close, but not quite. Kara no Kyoukai was Kinoko Nasu's first novel, which bombed at first print. He later reused some of the character and world concepts in a visual novel he and Takashi Takeuchi made called Tsukihime, and it is this game which serves as the backstory to Melty Blood, the fighting game.

darksteel1989

@Pizzaman: Like all movie adaptations, the book will inevitably contain more content than the movie. I thought the movies didn't portray how unhinged Shiki's regular mode of thinking was, but that's inevitable since putting a monologue in a movie just doesn't make sense. And the movie adaptation of Chapter 6 was just weird. Good, but very different from the book.

All this shouldn't discourage you from watching the movies, though. They are very, very good. ufotable got the atmosphere and mood very well. A lot of the movies have pretty scenes, although they tend to be shots of decaying urban centers. In my opinion, both the book and the movies are excellent individual products, but reading the book may not even be a factor if you can't read Japanese.

darksteel1989

@darksteel1989: Reading Japanese in a non-issue for me, so that is alright.

Hmm, seems like I really do need to get off my arse and watch the movies. Better catch up till part 6 on DVD, then watching part 7 in theaters seems like a plan.

Still, I shouldn't have missed the "making of KnK" which was on TV 3 weeks ago :(

@R_Shackelford: Well it wouldn't be through a couple of menus. just have it by default

@Azquelt: Just read the wikipedia article as the source and yeah it's in there, not exactly sure what your referring to? What i Mean by true DTS is not the name itself but the fact that I'm not referring to what your getting of your DVD discs saying DTS. An real DTS player is a single stand alone audio decoder just eating DVD discs, and no not DVD videos.

As for films being projected more then 1080p, this is VERY untrue, there is sure a few cinemas out there who do, but the source for the movies is very few, just 2 years ago there was 3 MOVIES in total. And there isn't exactly many cinemas out there with the setup at all due the fact that it's insanely over expensive and theres literally no movie out there recorded with it.

@michaelthegreat: If the source is only 1080p at best it doesn't matter either way so the statement "a hard drive is a hard drive" is still true. If it's a 2k or 4k the digital projector should be able to scale accordingly.

lilaliendog

This is rediculous. What's wrong with using a cheaper component with the same result? No one complained about universities using PS3s in Linux clusters for research. They COULD have spent tens of thousands on a huge server, but why?

I think this is good news. Hopefully movie prices can come down because of a move like this. They cost WAY TOO MUCH right now.

@Cubby: So where do I watch first considering I've never heard of this before?

ReynaldoRiv

As long as I don't have to see when one of their friends is online, I'm fine with it.

Blu-Ray is 1920x1080 stored as h.264 or Mpeg-2, downsampled to 9-bit 4:2:0. That means each pixel has a picture bit, every 2 pixels have a luminance bit and every 4 pixels has a color bit.

DCP (Digital Cinema Projection) is 2048x1080 stored as JPEG2000 at 10-bit 4:2:2, so technically the DCP copy should be better quality, but most people can't tell the difference

[en.wikipedia.org]

Things like gradients would be smoother at 10 bit, and if there was a line down the middle of the screen where a solid black area met a solid red line you would see a slight blurring inbetween it at 4:2:0. not so much at 4:2:2.

4:2:2 is good enough quality for watching unless you're trying to zoom up really closely on certain problem areas.

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