More Details About New Okami Game

@jamesjohnson01: Don't assume that you're the only who realizes that Japanese is an actual language and not just an art-style; I studied itfor a year in college and I know what the word means.

I remarked at it because it is ridiculously lame portmanteau pun (something Japanese people inexplicably adore).

@Placentasaurus: Its going to be awesome like the original, Im sure of it, and come on chibiterasu sounds kind of like a nice way to call the main character of this game, why would you want to ruin it by saying they are not taking it seriously? Im sure they are, but if you think adding something like chibi will make it less serious and only a simple boring game, then you really must have a super serious life only made up of FPS games or the likes.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Best control scheme? No. Best ability to look around? Sure. Combat? MISERABLE. Is the reflector the standard mode of attack? If so, that's what I used most often. ((shrug)) So if that's what you mean, then sorry, I guess I'm the exception.

Instead of being able to click a button for attack (as in the PS2 version) the player needs to shake/flail the remote around. Sorry, but that's awful.

A radically different control scheme does not necessarily mean better. Considering how often attack moves are used, having to shake the remote to attack is just not pleasant.

As for how HD would be significantly better, you only need to look at the reviews of the game's visuals which gush over how incredibly beautiful it is. HD would make the visuals look so much better. More important to me, though, is widescreen support.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Oh god, no no nO top down Okami please, and if possible they should stay AWAY from being Phantom Hourglass. PH just wasn't a grappling game, you didn't really care enough to come back to play more. At least that's how I felt.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Oh god, if they aim it towards a younger audience I'll be pissed.

@Placentasaurus:

I looked through EDICT (JDIC), and "terasu" by itself means to 'shine on; illuminate.'
The main character in the first, as you know, was called Amaterasu (The first part of her name, Ama, can mean sky).
Anyway, I'm guessing the 'Chibi' part is a pun or something (replacing Ama) of that sort, since users will be playing a miniature form of Okami (another name for Amaterasu in the game).

Still have to beat OG Okami on PS2. It's soooo long (but awesome).

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Honestly. Okami was good, but eh. I don't see the huge deal in it.

@Zero_: No, I'm pretty sure, they're working on Strider Hiryu 3... DUH.

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: YES, YES YES YES!

I was going to say the obvious 'WHERE THE FUCK IS GODHAND 2' post, but a million times thanks for doing it for me.

@jamesjohnson01: So what does terasu mean in Japanese? If its just jibberish, then I'm gonna have to say GODDAMMIT CAPCOM.

@Crash__Man: Because on the DS the amazing watercolor graphics that we all love so much won't be nearly as good.

Can we just have a PS2/Wii/PSP sequel it would still be a step up ...

drizzt_rocks

@Crash__Man: Because on the DS the amazing watercolor graphics that we all love so much won't be nearly as good.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: I think he meant a sequel on the HD consoles, meaning that it would take advantage of all that processing power to do mind-blowing, orgasmic things with the watercolor graphics that wouldn't be remotely possible on PS2 or Wii, let alone DS. The watercolor style in the original had a lot more going on behind the scenes than you think, in order to get it looking like a moving, living watercolor. Lets face it, the graphics were by far the best thing about Okami, and we all know that's what originally attracted people to the game.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Except that Phantom Hourglass had none of the heart and soul that all previous Zelda games had, in any aspect of the game. But still, as long as its a spin-off, it shouldn't be terrible. I still wish Okamiden was 2D, but maybe it'll be better in 3D. Too early to tell.

@Sarcasmancer: That caused me to lose all faith that they are even remotely trying to take this seriously. Which may or may not be a good thing.

@Devilbless: And don't want to spend very much.

@( shake cows, win a ) Milkshake!:

I actually have to agree with Mr.FapFap now after seeing those screen shots.

cellshadedninja

@Ryodestined: You realize that will never happen, right? lol

HarlequinRiot

"Capcom wants more people to experience the world of Okami"

AKA, we want it to sell a crapload.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Oh god I beg to differ, if these screenshots aren't anything but beautiful, I have no place in ths world.

[xbox360media.ign.com]

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How could you not want Okami to have this level of clarity and detail :/

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡:
but is quite different from the original Okami.

And at the end of the day, isn't that the way it should be (though I wouldn't tag it with the word spin-off, Chinatown Wars certainly wasn't!), considering the pedigree of Clover Studios?

Prosper

@Sarcasmancer:

I think it's cute!
Anyway, I'm interested to see how this turns out. :)

@Sarcasmancer: Chibi means small/cute, so it makes sense.

Try to ignore your tendencies of associating the word to weaboos and anime, and understand it's a real word.

:P

@Raw_fishFood: I'm on pretty much the same page as yourself; I'd love an invitation back to that world, but some titles are better left alone once they've had their chance.

My concern with the DS is that Okami's graphic engine was actually fairly complex, still relying on a great deal of thee-dimensional modeling and rendering; it was one of those situations where the end result is not necessarily indicative of the work that went into creating it. But given the graphical ability of the DS, there's certainly a chance that they could at least mimic the feel of the original, even if only by using tricks to convey similar imagery.

I'm obviously going to reserve judgment until the game is released, but for now I'm up in the air with regards to its creation. One of those "time will tell" deals.

Chibiterasu? Really?

@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: Who flipped about Infinite Undiscovery? The game is OWNED by Microsoft. Entirely. Square just published it because MS asked them to, thinking the Square name would give it extra sales. It didn't.

ANYONE would be pissed about Last Remnant, since the game was announced for both systems, then pulled for PS3 without so much as an apology or an explanation. But, y'know, I'm a hater, so my opinion isn't valid.

As for what you said about the DS...I got mad about Chrono Trigger DS until I saw the graphics were the same as the original version. I am FINE with that. I'm sick of developers BUTCHERING my childhood favorite games with shitty 3D. I'm FINE with ports or 2D remakes. Kirby Ultra Super Star is fucking amazing. So are the Phoenix Wright games.

Just leave the 3D to systems that don't suck at it.

I am both excited yet very weary. On one hand, it's more Okami, and they are even integrating ideas cut out from the first game (the art book reveals that Susanso and Kushi were suppose to have a son at the end of the first game, and they even had a model made before that was changed).

On the other hand, I'm also worried that it won't live up to the console game, especially when it comes to the graphics. Although, the DS isn't a horrible choice. One of Okami's strength's came from the simplicity of it's art style. I do think that the DS can mimic it at the very least, if not duplicate it.

Further readin the article reveals that it wasn't Capcom's idea to make the game, but the guy who directed the Wii version, Matsushita. He even had a working prototype before they started development.

That actually gives me some hope. It sounds like it started because of love for the original game, rather then a grab for money.

Raw_fishFood

@( shake cows, win a ) Milkshake!:
I actually thought it was quite lacking in art direction. They basically just wrapped a black outline around what were otherwise normal textures and called it cell shading.

I found it rather...uninspired.

I'm totally cool with this title being on DS as long as it doesn't go DSi only. Also, Okami should be re-released into retail once more, preferably in a Wii bundle where the Wii has a special design on it to match Amatersu's in the game. White wolf, White System, paint'em both to match!

Ryodestined

@Tye-The-Czar:
I think people are over reacting to this.
I expect Okamiden to be what handheld Zelda games are to console Zelda games.

They're still REALLY DAMN GOOD Zelda games, but they're quite different from console Zelda games.
Having to work with a partner in the game already suggests to me that they're going that route.
What we know so far suggests that Okamiden has all the hallmarks of a hand held (I'm gonna say it!) spin off. It's aiming at a slightly younger demographic and they appear to be trying things with the game that you probably wouldn't expect to see in a 'true' console version (the aforementioned partner system).

I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be a REALLY DAMN GOOD Okami game, but is quite different from the original Okami.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Look at the new Prince of Persia and tell me it isn't beautiful...

While I'd rather have had a full blown next gen sequel, this is better than no more Okami. I'll buy it day one. And if it sells well, maybe we will see a console sequel eventually.

I do hope that Capcom makes a more-than-worthy successor to the first. No... they had better make it great. Or heads will roll.
But I think the DS could be a great fit for this kind of game. Let's all just hope it's as awesome as the first.
So make it great!!!!!!!

Tye-The-Czar

You go Capcom. Remember, catering to the inbred neckbeards that have infested gaming will not only drive everyone on your staff insane but will result in you going bankrupt in record time. I hope it sells like crazy, so that maybe the Okami IP will not go the way of the other new Capcom IP released in the last 9 years.

@Archaotic: Nope your a hater when you bitch about each and every game released on the DS, no matter what it is, but stay quiet when it comes to releases on the PSP. You, dear sir have earned your 'hater' label. I hope SE releases FF7, 8 AND 9 on the DS, so we can see you flip your wig again, much like you did when SE released LR, SO4 and IU on the 360.

@bkld18: Sigh, let's give into the inane whining of selfish neckbeards on the internet who mean complete shit for sales.

@Archaotic: No, you're a hater if you instantly condemn a recently-announced title none of us have played and know next to nothing about.

There IS a gray area between what you said and what I said. It's a nice place to live.

716

It's a pass.

People that complain about this game being on the DS:

BAAAAAAW, WHAT´S THIS?! NO INCREDIBLE NEXT GENERATION GRAPHICS FOR MY CELLSHADED GAME WHICH APPEAL IN IT'S GRAPHICS WAS IN COLORS AND INDIVIDUALITY?

CAPCOM ALWAYS SHIT ON THE FANS BAAAAAW. WHO CARES THAT WITHER THE DS OR WII ARE PERFECT CHOICES FOR THE GAME.

Gotta love the internet.

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡:

But of course Zelda looked good....it's a first party NINTENDO title, I'd be hard press for a Ninty game not to look good on a Ninty console. So it really doesn't count IMO.

Good looking and control aren't always the same, since neither of us have played the game yet it's safe to say that we keep our fingers crossed that at least one of those work out on the final build of the game.

As for the demographic, potentially, yes..it is a perfect fit, but the Wii version of Okami was a perfect fit too and that sold MARGINALLY better then it's PS2 counterpart.

JRPGs have always had a home on the DS, but there are many JRPGers that DIDN'T jump on the DS...I know I'm one of them.

The DS is an ideal place for Okami but it shouldn't be the ONLY place for it. We're living in a 1080p/Blu Ray/HD console era and a game as 'beautiful and lush' as Okami has more then enough space to fit on the HD consoles who as of late, have suffered from the brown and grays.

But Capcom is playing safe, perhaps it's a trial run for the franchise...I dunno. All I do know is that Okami is a well loved game and it deserves the best, if it does do well on the DS then perhaps it's home is there.

We'll just have to see. ^-^

Rachel Fogg

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Spirit Track looks like a carbon copy of Phantom Hourglass, albeit with less blue and more green. I think you'll be happy there.

@(Zombie) Teliko:
Yeah, this name isn't really sounding like a good idea to me... I mean, I guess it makes sense, but it seems kind of like a quick mock-up of a name that they should use as a placeholder.

Blah8

@carmina2008: Other than happening? Can't!... Fresh?

716

You Okami fans are lucky... Okami on PS2 and Wii have bombed in sales, yet Capcom is STILL giving it another chance with a sequel.

Us Megaman Legends fans have been waiting close to 10 years for an update on the series, and the best we get is a fucking cell phone game. A CELL PHONE GAME. JUST LOOK AT THIS:
[www.mlu.legends-station.com]
WHAT THE HELL.

You "fans" stop whining and be glad your favorite series is being continued in a meaningful way.
Besides, after having played the PS2 version, I've always thought the DS would be a comfortable place to go for this series because of the brush stroke mechanic. I'm glad it's getting to try these control styles before the series is terminated.

Okami was great, and I always thought it should be on DS. This should be a good sequel.

WTB Okami verson of Phoenix Wright.

Complete with the entire cast being replaced by fuzzy spirit animals, but still wearing suits.

Also just as a side note, I want a another Capcom vs. game with Phoenix Wright (and cast) in it and ALSO Amaterasu.

@PlaidNinja: The Wii version had the best control scheme far and away.
The only problem with the Wii version's controls were the borked Fleet foot dodge and the difficult reflector attacks.
Otherwise, everything about the Wii version's controls were far and away superior.

Okami Wii's control issues were strictly on the technical side of things. Even then, they were so minor (nobody actually uses fleet foot to dodge and the reflector as their main weapon!)

You also don't take into account the possibility, if not probability, that a ground up version of the Wii could have a radically different control scheme not hampered by the PS2 version's controls.

Regardless, that doesn't address the issues of how an HD Okami would be significantly better.

All you people ripping on the game, I suppose you've played it already? I mean, how else could you be so sure it sucks?

@MR. FAP☆FAP! ｡◕‿◕｡: Here's the problem:

The PS2 version had the best controls but suffers from 1 - 4:3 aspect ratio, and 2 - being on the PS2. By that I mean that unless you own a PS2 or an old PS3 you won't be able to play it due to another brilliant Sony business decision to remove backwards compatibility.

The Wii version has wonderful wide screen support... and the worst control scheme imaginable.

@bkld18:
As someone else pointed out, also the majority of the jrpg market. But they'd never be intrested in this.

Lozmaster

It doesn't really look the same without Clover working on it

Japan_Time

OKAMJECTION!!!

@LiquidDarsh:
I've gotta ask because people keep saying it...

Just HOW do you guys think an HD Okami is going to look significantly better than the PS2 or Wii version?
The game was designed with that soft, fuzzy, very minimal art style in mind. EVERYTHING about Okami's art style is literally the antithesis of HD graphics.
Look at the upscaled screenshots of the game you want.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be ANY visual improvements...but you guys expecting some kind of mind blowing eye orgasm would be sorely disappointed.

Part of me really wants to see an HD Okami just to see all the bitching about how it "isn't taking full advantage of the high resolution grafix! OMG!"

In response to many of the comments about this nascent sequel to Okami:

I don't see how going to bat a third time for a franchise that has underperformed repeatedly is a money grab for Capcom.

I think the character's name is worisome, and Okamiden, like any game really, but especially a sequel handled by a different team, could be a travesty.

On the other hand I like the look of the screenshot. The control scheme of the DS was made for this game. And Capcom is commited enough to Okami to make sure the controls are polished to a fine sheen.

I also feel like a lot of developers have always wanted to work on a Zelda game and probably have some ideas as to how to innovate that gameplay style, and also respect Okami. So I could easily see such a game becoming a labor of love for all involved.

In short, there are some things to worry about, but there are reasons to keep an open mind as well. No one has to buy this. But no one has to make their decision about a game that's 25% complete, either.

(zombie) buddhathing

All you disappointed Okamiphiles have got it wrong. This is *meant* to be a step down from Okami. It has to be. It is meant for people to step up to Okami *from*.

So of course it looks dumbed down, and graphically not as top-notch.

It is the 'Hobbit' to Okami's 'Lord of the Rings'.

It isn't for you - it's for the 100 million people with a DS who haven't experienced Okami.

Now do you understand?

phisheep

@Rachel Fogg: " 3D on the DS DOESN'T work well...at all, I haven't seen a 3D game on the DS (unless styled well) that looks great, FFIV was for better or worse a horrible looking game."

Phantom Hourglass is 3D and it looks fantastic.
I'm hopeful that Okamiden will follow the Zelda series' lead again and go with a primarily top down view. Of the 3 screenshots we've seen so far, 2 of them show a top down view, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Visually, DS 3D is passable. The problem comes with the controls.

Besides that, the what we've seen of Okamiden so far looks beautiful, especially for a DS game.
Okami was a very low poly game, too, and it looked great. If Okamiden is only 25% done, I'm going to stay hopeful that we'll see even further visual improvements by the time it's released.

@Rachel Fogg: "The truth is, unless they market this game and gimp alot of features to make it more accessible then the game won't fly on the DS either. They're ALOT of games on the DS that don't sell well either and deserve to as well as they are games on the PS360 that suffer the same fate."

Not necessarily. Demographic-wise, Okami and the DS are potentially a perfect fit.
Where, after all, do you think the JRPG/Japan-o-phile market went after the PS2? If we're talking demographics, I can definitely see where the DS becomes an ideal home for Okami.

Aw, I wanted an HD Okami...

a sequel!? awesome!!

you folks complaining are ridiculous.

"blah blah blah I want more Okami!"

"here's more Okami!"

"wah wah wah this isn't exactly the way I wanted it! wah!"

c'mon people, if this was on PS3/60 how the hell would a game surrounding drawing be any better??

Crash__Man

"title takes place a few months after the PlayStation 2 original and features a new wolf named Chibiterasu"

Interest level depleted in 3, 2, 1...

@Strife Fox †:
Because it would be a nightmare to play on the PSP. After playing the Wii version, I don't want to ever go back to analog sticks.
...especially if I'm forced to use just one analog stick (nub).

A part of me hates to admit it, since I would love another console version of Okami, too (Wii obviously), but the DS and Okami are almost literally a match made in heaven for obvious reasons.

My hope is that in this new game you don't have to pause the world to draw a brush stroke. It would make the combat more satisfying and faster paced if you can draw directly on the screen.
I'm pretty much crossing my fingers for a Phantom Hourglass clone (control-wise).

@bkchurch: Glad someone agrees with what I've been saying ever since I saw fans beg for a sequel. You're absolutely right, sequels do have a tendency to ruin the originals, and if the sequel doesn't have someone that really knows anything about making these kind of games... well it just makes the original game look like Capcom just wanted money, and didn't truly produce a heartfelt game.

I'd be fine with somewhat of an Okami styled game, however. Spin-off for Waka, or Susano, I'd have little problems with. A similar, yet completely different story, with all new characters and scenes, I could easily buy. But this just has 'lolsequel' all over it.

@PlatformJunkie:

And that's the reason at the heart of the discussion. Like I said, I'm not dissing the DS at all, it's a little disappointing that the game isn't on the current gen consoles.

But my biggest fear is that Capcom won't do it justice for Okami fans or DS fans. Granted we don't know enough to warrant the fear but it's sorta the trend this gen.

Capcom is playing close to the chest with this game, would it be better looking on the PS360? Yes? Would it sell well? Probably not? Would it sell on the DS? Depends.

With a game like Okami with such a limited if not vocal fanbase, I expect EVERY fan of the game to go out and get the DS version as soon as it's released. LOL!

But we'll see....I hope everything goes well for it. Okami does deserve another swing.

Rachel Fogg

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I was thinking "of all the platforms it had to be the DS". They could have at least brought it to the Wii.

@bkld18: Let's judge this 25% completed game based on some trivial story details and three screens. Sigh indeed.

"According to Matsushita, the reason why the game is on the DS is that Capcom wants more people to experience the world of Okami."

Because it didn't sell like poop on the Wii PS2 and neither of those have large install bases at all.[/sarcasm]

No original team... Stupid Chibiterasu moniker... Seriously doubt I will bother when this comes out. I loved the original, it was like Zelda but without having to wait for a decent new Zelda. Another one of those on home console would have made me far happier.

gifurocks

More people? Because the PS2 had such a measly install base?

MechaTama31

@Lumice: oops my bad. reading comprehension could use work

Lumice

@Rachel Fogg: It might not sell well on the DS either, but I would assume that DS development is way cheaper than PS360 development, and even Wii development, so at least they would still be better off financially with the DS.

PlatformJunkie

Is there an official title out yet? or is it just "Okami DS"?

Lumice

That's wierd, I just finished ordering a DSi, looks like I'll be able to play this now!

One thing though... Why isn't this getting a PSP release too, surely they should have considered both platforms valuable for this title, especially since the original Okami, was, you know, a PS2 game?

Strife Fox †

@PlatformJunkie:

But do you think it will sell well on the DS as well?

There are some people who own PS360s that would buy the game. The REAL problem that Okami suffered was that the game was 'Too Japanese' for Westerners and 'Too Traditional' for current Japanese gamers. At least that's what I personally think it was.

The truth is, unless they market this game and gimp alot of features to make it more accessible then the game won't fly on the DS either. They're ALOT of games on the DS that don't sell well either and deserve to as well as they are games on the PS360 that suffer the same fate.

Capcom wanted to make the game as cheaply as possible. Until I see more screenshots of the game or a video of it in action then I hold my same judgment.

Rachel Fogg

Amaterasu and Susano? the characters. ^_^;
"Susano he kid!" Okami...games.. Capcom?

@Rachel Fogg: Yes, it would look better on other consoles. but, would teh PS3/360 would be able do deliver better paintbrush controls? I don't think so.

An while it may be blocky and all that, if the beautiful artstyle still is there, well, the game will be very beautiful, even in a lower res, because that was the reason this game was gushed over for, not the high res or other things like that.

Also, even if we hate it, this is a bussiness. The DS has sold more units than the PS2 and it is far cheaper to develop. Higher chance of your game being purches plus a cheaper development cost, it is usually a smart decision from a corporative point of view.

I admit it. My choice was Wii using WM+ for better paintbrush control. Improved controls, already with some ideas to work with and still with a very decent screen to look at, seemed like a good choice.

I do understand the disapointment of a lot of fans, but there are also good things about this, and shouldn't be dismessed so easily.

Not developed by Clover/Platinum? Check
Lame assed character name? Check
Graphically inferior to original (a game lauded for its visuals at that)? Check
Another lame inferior sequel to a great PS2 game? Check

Thanks a lot Capcom. DAY 1 *rolls eyes*

drizzt_rocks

@Rachel Fogg: I could partially understand if people wanted it on the Wii, but you gotta look at it realistically. We're talking about a game that didn't sell that well on the PS2 nor Wii. Do you honestly believe the majority of the PS3 or 360 crowd would buy a sequel. They're not gonna put Halo ODST, Modern Warfare 2, or Uncharted aside for something like this. Look at a similar genre game like Fable 2. How much did that sell? What makes you think that Capcom would waste millions of dollars in development for a game that would without a doubt flop on those two systems? And then we would be reading articles about the Ace Attorney team being laid off. It's really common sense from a business standpoint. If people wanna complain, they should complain about the trends in HD gaming that keep games like this from having a chance at success.

PlatformJunkie

I actually don't want an Okami sequel. Okami was a real treasure that wormed it's way into my cold black heart and one of the greatest things about it is how unique it is. Sequels, no matter how good or bad, have a tendency to make that uniqueness just not feel so special anymore.

O and with no Hideki Kamiya working on it I feel like it's gonna be kind of soulless. The Ace Attorney guys are great but I don't feel like they can deliver the same way Kamiya did.

O and I don't like long epic games that should be visually stunning with a fantastic soundtrack on my portable. It's kind of like watching Lord of the Rings on my PSP instead of my home theater. It's still a great movie but it's not being displayed in a way to show it's true potential.

bkchurch

looks like i might have to re-buy a new copy of okami for the ps2 and play the game again...ehehehehe

xxnike629xx

@Fishballs:

But....but this is the internet? What do you expect us to do? Talk happily about everything?

We're NEVER happy about anything this gen. You should know that by now. /sarcasm

Rachel Fogg

@Zero_:

You're a cruel person...they'll make Megaman Legends 3 alright...but you know what, it'll be that bastard NT warrior version of Megaman.

Because that's how Capcom rolls, they giveth and taketh away.

Rachel Fogg

@DoktorSleepless:

I don't like alot of 'great' games, not because it's cool to be against the grain, I've played them and had a 'meh' at the end.

Okami is a pretty game, Clover was a HUGE risk to Capcom. Over the years the hate for Capcom for 'destroying' Clover has pissed me off.

Capcom is a COMPANY, they put HUGE amounts of cash into Clover with little return outside of some fondly loved games (see-Godhand).

But as I said, I understand why people loved the game so I'm happy for them. I just want me my Godhand 2! :pouts:

Rachel Fogg

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: Go from a Bitmap file to a JPEG and tell me that image still looks good. Or better yet, why not do a gorgeous piece of art work and save it as a TIFF file?

Black-Dog-Howls

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!:

LOL! It's pretty true, I don't hate Okami enough to have this game destroyed as it stands, I was impressed with it but the glares were pretty obvious.

I'm glad it got a sequel, I hope it does well to warrant a more....how should I say this, 'current' gen offering.

But Godhand 2, yeah, I'd sell my kidney for Godhand 2. The awesome there would be like dreams.

Rachel Fogg

One of the problems people are having with this is A-the name 'Chibiterasu'...and B-The DS.

And there are some people who don't understand WHY people are upset. I'll try to split the baby here.

Okami is a beautiful game, yes we HEARD that a 10000 times since the games initial release on the PS2, if you can't understand WHY people want it on a...more powerful current gen console you're deluding yourself.

The reason is because very FEW games on the handhelds maximize the handhelds power, yes, there's a few that have (I'm not naming them) but the majority are squished down/shaved ports. 3D on the DS DOESN'T work well...at all, I haven't seen a 3D game on the DS (unless styled well) that looks great, FFIV was for better or worse a horrible looking game.

So when you take a game so WIDELY gushed over for 'Beauty', gimp it, bite size it and stick it on the 'Not so great for 3D' handheld...do you really expect NO ONE to be upset by this? It's unrealistic.

Now, the hope..

If Capcom REALLY cares about this game and for those fans I hope they do, they'll push the extra effort into making the game clearly reflect the same 'beauty' of the first game as much as they can. We've only seen the first screenshot of Okamiden, it's small so not alot can be said about it. But in the later months more info will fall out and then we can say 'success' or 'fail'.

But for those that CAN'T comprehend why people are upset seeing this game on a handheld...look up once an a while. This isn't a 'Diss' to the DS (and lord forgive me if I EVER diss that console :rolls eyes:) this is just fact. You're going to sit there and tell me that when they announced this game that you were NOT hoping it wasn't going to come out on the PS360? Really? REALLY?

I mean, I know this is the internet...but REALLY?

Methinks fanboy blinders are on.

Rachel Fogg

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!:

They're not making God Hand 2 because they're making Megaman Legends 3, right?

Zero_

@Rachel Fogg: I'm going to join you as one of the people that wasn't gushing over Okami. I gave it a fair shake, and it didn't impress me.

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: Agreed. This game probably wouldn't fit on anything else anyway other than the Wii. I seriously doubt most of the 360/PS3 crowd would buy this anyway. Look how little hype amd sales games aimed at similar demographics (Ratchet and Clank, Banjo Kazooie, Fable 2) on PS360 get compared to games like COD, Gears, MGS, and ODST. Capcom doesn't want another flop on their hands.

I think we need to have a "WAAAH" filter in addition to disemvowelment. Cause this thread is just one big cry fest. Just change all the whining to "WAAAH"

PlatformJunkie

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

@#c15144555: Perhaps, but the DS hardware really isn't capable of doing anything in 3D particularly well, regardless of art direction. They'll do what they can, but it will remain a pretty blocky, aliased mess.

Michael Fisk

Here's an idea! How about we learn a little more about the game before we start whining about it?

Fishballs

@Rachel Fogg: I was disagreeing with you, then you said Godhand 2.

If Godhand 2 was announced, I would go out and buy a PS3 if it was exclusive.

@D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: +1

@Cloud_Hiro: It's still not an excuse to add chibi to anything, ever!

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:

I couldn't agree with you more...of all others, this one gets the sequel. Meanwhile I'm waiting for a new Breath of Fire, Rival Schools, Onimusha....

The list goes on and on.

I am like one of the few people on the planet that wasn't gushing over Okami, still hasn't or ever will. But I understand why people liked the game and is pleased that Capcom has given the franchise another go at the apple.

But...srsly, Godhand 2....why not Capcom?

Rachel Fogg

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I think that somewhere, you lost a substantial bet.

Need some place to hide out for a while?

mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta

Most of the people in this thread seem to be missing the point of Okami's graphics.

Okami is a beautiful game, one of the most beautiful games ever made. It doesn't need tons of pixels, extremely complex shaders, and super high fill rates to impress you because of it's great visual style. It's one of the most prime examples of artstyle over super ultra realism...

and then the second the DS version is announced everybody goes "I WANT THE SUPER ULTRA HD VERSION WITH ALL THE COMPLEX SHADERS AND EVERYTHING."

I'm about ready to give up on video games as a viable platform for anything but being really pretty things that push computers limits with the way gamers act towards everything.

@Black-Dog-Howls: Careful, you're a "hater" if you don't instantly embrace every single DS game adapted out of the corpse of a respected franchise with naught but the highest praise and adoration. You're a bad person!

DS? Really?

The reason why the game is on the DS is that Capcom wants more people to experience the world of Okami?

Maybe, but its gonna be a very low-res experience...

@Black-Dog-Howls: Yeah, that's about how I feel with this game.

What the fuck, Capcom?

ganaeshd

i'm excited for a nything that is more Okami, so this sounds great. That said, I hope the camera angle is primarily a Phantom Hourglass-esque top down view for this. Controlling 3D games on the DS is a pain in the ass otherwise.

That said, I think this game looks beautiful from what we've so far seen.

Sigh... let's dumb down another great game for old people and 6-year-olds...

bkld18

i d'awww'd.

curly haired boy

@Lissar: guess the wolf goddess had a pup since the last game?

Cloud_Hiro

Gotta love how much complaining goes on around here. I'll just assume Arch will jump in with how much he hates 3D on the DS pretty soon too. Haters gon hate huh?

I actually don't have all that much faith in the game seeing as how Clover's not making it, but I'll still try it out once it's out and if it ends up being great, fantastic! Okami didn't really need a sequel though.

Chibiterasu... CHIBIterasu. I mean, what? .... what?

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: More good games is more good games. I don't see how that's a bad thing. It looks like we won't be lacking in the imagination/creativity department, so it's not like the title is just a brainless cop-out like many other sequels... just what is so bad about this?

SuperSonik

@Crimsondramon:

I'm convinced they didn't really try when coming up with that name.

"Well, it's gonna be on the DS right?"
"Yep"
"We should make it about a different wolf named... wait for it... Chibiterasu!"
"Uh... why? That sounds stupid."
"Well because we will make the wolf look smaller and because it's on the DS!"
"Brilliant!"

Capcom: Want Okami running on a HD engine with giant demons and lots of little demons with incredible godly brush techniques and an adventure as epic as the first Okami? Want to follow Ammy as she purges the celestial heavens of demons and foul and sinister spirits?

Yes please.

Capcom: HAHAH! Here's a DS game with a cutsified Chibimaterasu and it's about Kamiki again.

Oh...

Black-Dog-Howls

This ridiculous naming convention brings me to what I hate the most about handheld versions of established franchises. There is always this incessant need to shrink all characters' proportions to fun-size, turning any story that wants to be even slightly serious or epic into a laughingstock. And I'm not talking about just on the zoomed-out map or a stylistic choice like Wind Waker. Look at the Final Fantasy remakes or the garbage Ubisoft threw onto there with AC or PoP for example.

I thought the only reason this trend was even around was because of graphical constraints back in the day. Is the DS really so underpowered that it must rely on the shortcuts from back in the SNES/early PSX days? Or are developers just that lazy to think of a more elegant solution?

Enkur

@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I'll give it a shot. The stylus/paint brush mechanic is an excellent fit. Even if the graphics take a hit, I think this could still be a good addition to the original game (which I thoroughly enjoyed).

...Chibi doesn't really have the same ring to it as Ammy. This is one of those things they should change in localisation methinks.

Calling the character chibiterasu isn't going to win any sales though. There must be another name they could pick from the huge amount of japanese folklore to use as a name. I suppose [wiki'd] the name of Amaterasus real son, Ame no Oshihomimi no Mikoto, doesn't quite have the same ring to it either.

Lozmaster

@LordThayer: i was playing Onimusha Blade Warriors (that fighting game) and was like "why the fuck is there not a ps3 sequel yet?"

pandafresh

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:
Capcom hates sequels.

iamspoo

@Crimsondramon: REALLY?

Jean-François L'Her

CHIBI terasu? FUCK. ME.

I hope to god that is a coincidence, and not a sign of things to come. You're killing me Capcom.

P.S. Stop doing things that aren't related to Megaman Legends, Megaman X, and Breath of Fire.

P.P.S. Also, bring Onimusha out of the PS2 era. It deserves better.

@BubbleF**kingBuddy:

wat?

televizor

Chibiterasu...

REALLY?!

Of all the Capcom games to get a sequel, it had to be Okami...