Is Kinect Reporting What It Sees To Advertisers?

Speaking at an investor’s conference on Thursday, a Microsoft executive offered that Kinect not only knows how many are in the room when an ad’s shown, but what kind of team colours they might be wearing. Uh-oh.

At the BMO Capital Markets forum, Dennis Durkin, the chief operating officer of Microsoft’s Interactive Entertainment division, offered that if someone were watching a sporting event with Kinect on (for example, ESPN’s new streaming service to the Xbox 360), Kinect could deduce what team they support based on what kind of jersey or colours they wore, and serve advertising tailored to that.

Digital Trends offers that it’s not much different from how Facebook serves its ads, though in that case, there’s something of an active opt-in (choosing to publicize your favourite films, food, sports teams, your alma mater, etc.) Durkin’s example carries the implication that you don’t know you’re being watched – basically, studied – for marketing purposes. The results would be aggregated of course – charts and numbers, not a piece of raw video of you saved and stored somewhere – but it still sounds Orwellian.

Orwellian enough that when the Wall Street Journal mentioned it, Microsoft issued this statement:

Xbox 360 and Xbox Live do not use any information captured by Kinect for advertising targeting purposes. Microsoft has a strong track record of implementing some of the best privacy protection measures in the industry. We place great importance on the privacy of our customers’ information and the safety of their experiences.

But if we’re to take Durkin at his word, it means the capability is there, regardless of whether it’s being used.

Kinect’s Camera Could Record Data For Advertisers [DigitalTrends]

Discuss

(26 Comments)
  • [–]

    Mr Waffle

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 9:26 AM

    Considering privacy settings are basically shoved in your face with the new dashboard (they’re before the achievements in your profile), I’d say Microsoft are serious about assuring people of their privacy. Totally understandable given the “big brother is watching you” vibe that a camera brings.

  • [–]

    Jimu_Hsien

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM

    Big Brother is watching (1984, the book-Not that damned TV show!)

  • [–]

    warcroft

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM

    All it takes is a report of a child being ‘watched and monitored’ by Kinect and advertisers and the whole thing will get squashed.

    • [–]

      Kyle_Katarn

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM

      Why would it? I mean, the TSA’s radiation body scanning machines are still in place despite that it breaks almost every child porn law out there, not to mention the mass gropings of women and children (and sometimes, men) alike when they opt out of the scanner.

      Anyway, I saw this coming. People, this thing will probably be able to watch you when you think it is turned off (i.e. not in use), look at those school laptops that were issued out in the U.S. (and it probably does it here, too), so when you’re finished playing with it, unplug the device from the machine. It’s probably the only way to be sure.

      • [–]

        WTHfor

        Monday, November 15, 2010 at 2:38 PM

        Sadly you’re correct in that every technological advance that can be adapted for surveillance is ultimately used in that way, regardless of how we feel about it. Reminds me of the myth that switching off a cell phone prevents tracking. In reality, removing the battery is the only way to prevent tracking.

  • [–]

    AmbroseIV

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM

    The day I get Kinect is the day I stop watching TV without pants on.

    • [–]

      Chuloopa

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 10:35 AM

      and it’ll be the day i start…

      • [–]

        Qumulys

        Monday, November 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM

        I’m looking in your window now. o.O

    • [–]

      attila

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM

      I had to start wearing them, as Kinect kept giving an error message that it was detecting three legs…

      • [–]

        Ren Finlayson

        Monday, November 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM

        yeah they need to work this out, I got the we dont have support for elephants error message.

        • [–]

          Dean

          Monday, November 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

          Funny… mine just laughed at me :(

          • [–]

            Chuloopa

            Monday, November 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM

            Man, that’s nothing – a friend of mine got one and it actually pointed and started whispering stuff to the other consoles before they all started laughing..

            Apparently the Kinect is very descriptive. All i got out of him before he became an uncontrollable mess of tears was something about it being ‘napoleanesque in statue’…

      • [–]

        Jimu_Hsien

        Tuesday, November 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM

        Short legs?

  • [–]

    FatShady MBA

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM

    Does anyone really sit at home watching a sporting game with that teams jersey on??? Really???

    • [–]

      James Mac

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:15 PM

      That was exactly my thought too.

      And, frankly, if you are the kind of person who does… you should be monitored.

    • [–]

      Mr Waffle

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM

      I don’t know about that, but I have a habit of changing into the tshirt of a concert I went to if I’m watching the DVD of it, brings back memories :P

    • [–]

      Stephen Moore

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM

      Not much of a sports fan I take it..

      • [–]

        FatShady MBA

        Monday, November 15, 2010 at 3:34 PM

        You are actually spot on… I enjoy most sports but not a fan of a particular team etc.. so I don’t get the mentality… Nor the practice of doing it at home in front of the TV?

        But more power to you if you get around in your team’s gear, just asking…

    • [–]

      Dean

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:51 PM

      Wouldn’t surprise me in the U.S…

    • [–]

      Rohan Rance

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM

      You mean you DON’T dress-up to watch TV? o.o

  • [–]

    Stevorooni

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM

    I’ll just fill the room with Sony and Nintendo stuff and see if I can get the Kinect to advertise a competitor

    • [–]

      Brickouthouse

      Monday, November 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM

      Zing! Well played sir/madam, well played.

      Maybe leave the xbox on while you /play/ some Move/Wii, and see what happens.

  • [–]

    matt

    Monday, November 15, 2010 at 4:41 PM

    I honestly don’t care about all this stuff. selling “private” information to advertisers ect.

    why not? If im gonna be advertised at, I’d rather it be something I might actually want! thats win, win!

    as long as companies get sued out of business the second they put a foot out of line, I don’t see what the problem is.

    • [–]

      WTHfor

      Tuesday, November 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM

      Lol there’s one born every minute. I bet you also buy into the government talking point “If you have nothing to hide, there’s no problem being spied on.” If that’s your position, hand me your keys & I’ll check out your property later. ;)

  • [–]

    Rappo

    Tuesday, November 16, 2010 at 8:26 AM

    Big Brother WIN.

    Not only do people WANT to put the spy-cam in their livingroom, their willing to pay for it!!!

    (No-doubt sony are doing much the same with their eye)

  • [–]

    Steve0410

    Tuesday, November 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM

    This is incredibly creepy. Don’t know whether the ‘kinect camera never turns off’ thing is real though.

Join The Discussion