AU Diary: R18+ And The 7pm Project (Updated With Video)

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Be sure to check out the 7PM project tonight, and not just for the ‘comedy’ stylings of one Dave ‘Hughesy’ Hughes, but because Seamus Byrne will be on the show representing Kotaku and discussing the R18+ debate.

The last couple of weeks have been incredible. R18+ has gone from a niche, specialist issue to one that interests the entire country. It’s everywhere – on mainstream media, on television, on radio – and people are being educated with regards to what an R18+ rating actually means. This can only be a good thing.

Hopefully this sea-change in media coverage will help Australians get the R18+ rating they deserve.

In addition to the 7PM Project we’ll also be appearing on ABC News 24, after the SCAG meeting to discuss the result, whatever it may be.

So make sure you check in tomorrow for all the latest updates on the SCAG meeting and, of course, the final result. It’s been a long hard slog and we appreciate all your support. Hopefully, common sense will prevail.

UPDATE: You can now watch the video below.

Discuss

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    Ray

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM

    Hey Mark, do you know what time tomorrow the SCAG meeting is?

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    BlueMaxima

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM

    TV’s turned on and ready. LET’S DO IT!

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    MDolley

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    What time is an announcement either way expected?

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    Sar Selack

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    Much appreciation and thanks to all the work Mark, Seamus and the contributors have put into READY during this debacle. Good luck/common sense to everyone for tomorrow.

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    NotoriousR

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    Link for Bajo on ABC News 24:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPLDYuj9tiQ&feature=youtu.be

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    Justin

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    7PM project is usually just drivel but I’ll watch it for our boy Seamus.

    “Hopefully, common sense will prevail. ”

    Let’s hope.

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    Xs

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:57 PM

    Good work and good luck my friends.

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    Asuron

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM

    How long until we actually find out the result?
    does it come out the following week?

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    AmbroseIV

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM

    I saw an ad. for 7pm showing Bajo with a Good Game backdrop (last night maybe?) and was gonna ask why you didn’t offer Seamus up, but it’s good to see it’s all been rectified without any exertion required on my behalf.

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    TadMod

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 6:01 PM

    Darn, I’m going to miss it :(

    Any chance of a recording?

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      Chris Guerin

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:37 PM

      Yeah any chance of a recording? I missed it too sadly :(

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        ♣TadMod♣

        Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:55 PM

        No point, I caught it. It was biased, unresearched and overall disappointing… :(

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      Aidan Dullard

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:46 PM

      It’ll be on their website by tomorrow (probably sooner).

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    Matt

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 6:02 PM

    Supposedly, Bajo from Good Game will be on the 7PM Project as well.. So.. Double the awesome?

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    Sughly

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 6:10 PM

    Yeah you are right Mark, it’s really awesome to see all this! That being said, 7pm project is so lame. Over rehearsed POS, comes across like they’ve timed and practiced their jokes all day. And God, someone fire that over opinionated woman, stat!

    But I’ll watch it just for Seamus. Man, if it’s not watching Seamus with Kochie its watching him with…her!

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    Fred Gherkin

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 6:34 PM

    Who else is on tonight? Hopefully not that prat Steve Price.

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    YJ

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:23 PM

    Segment just ended…bit dissappointed that 7pm panel are falling for the usual uninformed BS.

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      Xs

      Friday, December 10, 2010 at 6:50 AM

      WHAT GAME HAS YOU RUN OVER PEDESTRIANS FOR POINTS?!?!

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        James Mac

        Friday, December 10, 2010 at 9:58 AM

        Carmageddon.

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          Mr Explody

          Friday, December 10, 2010 at 11:18 AM

          In Australia they’re zombies, not pedestrians.

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    Bish

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    Well, that was… short.
    I gotta say though, O’Connor actually sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. Not just some rehearsed statement about how most Australians support it, but he eveb answered the second question by mentioning the Catholic Bishops group. Good on him.

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      Bish

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM

      Oh, also, was it just me or did anyone else hear something from Anamanaguchi from the SP vs The World game soundtrack?
      … I probably should have been paying more attention, but it was one of those “… Hey, I’ve heard/seen/noticed that before” kind of things where you then get distracted by trying to figure out what it was from.

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    AmbroseIV

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    …just watched it, disappointed with the panel – for some smart people, they were pretty naive/didn’t seem to watch the story.

    i.e. Dave Hughes: “I don’t like those games where you get points for running over people”

    Apart from that, O’Connor was good but Seamus & Bajo should’ve had as long a run as Lyle.

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      Fred Gherkin

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:35 PM

      Apparently Hughsie still thinks they’re making Carmageddon games when they stopped a decade ago.

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        Michael Hingston

        Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:53 PM

        Don’t say that you will jinx it and they will revive the franchise!

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          Sean Coppleman

          Friday, December 10, 2010 at 12:32 AM

          You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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        Xs

        Friday, December 10, 2010 at 6:52 AM

        The most important point here is that game was M15+, correct?

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    Justin

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:31 PM

    I just watched it and it was entirely uninformative. Jennifer Byrne (I think is her name) made a floodgate arguement statement(R18+ = more violent video games/violent content), the Dr. on the panel made some bizarre comment about FPS games and medical technology and Hughesy voiced concern about getting points for running down padestrians in games. I don’t really know of any games where that is the main objective/reward or even a feature.

    The panalists mightn’t be gamers themselves and that’s fine, but atleast do a little research into the topic don’t just fire off silly ideas at the end of the segment.

    I think it would have been much better if they had Seamus or Bajo or someone else in the studio to answer those question as opposed to just closing the segment with ridiculous statements about the issue.

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      Glenn

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 10:45 PM

      Umm… GTA?

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      Justin

      Friday, December 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM

      OK that’s 2. Carmageddon sucked and GTA is just GTA.

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    Aidan Dullard

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:31 PM

    Interesting segment.

    Seamus/Bajo outlined some good arguments, Lyle Shelton was Lyle Shelton (THE CHILDREN!!) and the hosts were surprisingly sensationalist (Dave Hughes mentioning GTA ‘running over people in cars’ and Jennifer Byrne saying something about more violence). Brendan O’Connor made a good appearance, glad he’s quoting the Australian Catholic Bishops. The way the media coverage has ramped up before tomorrow has been surprising.

    A good overview of the issue (although I did hear ‘Attorney-Generals’), fingers crossed for tomorrow.

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    ♣TadMod♣

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM

    OK. WOW. I just managed to watch it, and ALL respect lost for the 7pm crew!

    Not only did they give the ACL fanatic 90% more time than the supporters COMBINED, they cut off O’Conner, Made Seamus’ statements seem disjointed, and (I believe) deliberately showed Bajo playing one of the R18+ Candidates…

    I’ve heard of spin before, but this is just dirty!

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    FatShady MBA

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM

    Cool. What time is it on.

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      ♣TadMod♣

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM

      The 7 pm project is usually on around 5pm.

      The above statement may or may not be a complete fabrication.

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        FatShady MBA

        Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM

        You just never know if Internet jokes will be funny.

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          ♣TadMod♣

          Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 9:16 PM

          Nah man, I pissed myself when I read your comment, I was trying to play along. Clearly I failed XD

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            Xs

            Friday, December 10, 2010 at 6:53 AM

            I laughed.

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    Dean

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:07 PM

    The presenters did seem rather uninformed, yes.

    “Doesn’t that mean we’ll get more violent video games?” was one of the comments. I mean, this kind of stuff has been brought up many, many times and you would have thought they’d have done a least a cursory amount of research before making comments like that.

    Oh well, thankfully this is not a decision for Jennifer Byrne and Dave Hughes.

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    Luke

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:15 PM

    Wow… and your all surprised that the views that were given were absolutely useless, I hate the 7pm project, Most of the people on there think they are funny but in reality it like someone scraping their fingernails down a chalkboard, That and Ryan Fitzgerald ruined any liking for the show the one time i saw him on there.

    Back on topic its not surpising the opinion coming from a 2 bit wannabe news program.

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    Sam Timmins

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:16 PM

    Dear gods. In a turnaround, the blonde was the smartest presenter there.

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      Riavan

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:52 PM

      They’ve probably asked her to shutup more often, since she seems to blatantly over-talk most of the show usually.

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      alinos

      Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 9:05 PM

      not sure she meant to be though

      it seemed a rather throwaway comment compared to everything else that someone else had told her

      Though i feel that the ACL spent some money on that piece.

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      Stu

      Friday, December 10, 2010 at 1:19 PM

      that Jennifer lady on the right, with her “whaaaaa more violent games” is fairly indicative of the uninformed public’s perception, as shaped by the mainstream media/ACL argument.

      cue “the blonde” Carrie Bickmore with both the quietest and most poignant rhetorical question: “where are the parents?”

      home run Carrie. this is, i feel, the most important issue out of the whole debate. we, as adults (and parents) should have the right to enjoy gaming, from Farmville to whatever freaky-deaky stuff that may come out of Japan.
      FIRST AND FOREMOST THOUGH, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO CHILDREN AND MINORS TO ASSIST THEM IN GROWNING UP, AND SCREENING THEM FROM INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT. too many parents wish to palm off that responsibilty and not be involved with their kids activities. an R18+ classification means that when adults go to EB or GAME, they can see *quite clearly before purchase* that a game is NOT suitable for their 8 year old. hopefully it also adds a level of responsibilty for game retailers to request ID upon purchase of an R18+ game.

      if we are going to ban anything, lets ban IGNORANCE and APATHY…

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    Mick Carroll

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:38 PM

    For those that missed out on the segment, here it is (mods can embed it in main story if they want)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GziEaFFIeNE

    Totally agree with comments that the presenters were uninformed!

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    Anika Nagy

    Thursday, December 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM

    I found that very…underwhelming and biased. They gave that ACL guy way more time then Seamus and Bajo combined :/

    They obviously didnt do their research very well. A simple history search here could have enlightened them but I am glad Brendan O’Connor said his piece and hopefully the AG’s will pass this.

    *crosses fingers*

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