Earlier today, a 90-second clip of yelling by people who totally deserve each other was removed from YouTube on grounds it was a “depiction of harmful activities”. That would be a 17-year-old getting into it with an irate mum, evidently after he had a dispute with her minor son during a match in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
We’ve been contacted by the young man involved, who promises a 12-minute full context version of this is coming, provided you really want to hear all of that. Meantime, this is what he has to say for himself.
First off, I used the word “Faggot” just to insult the kid, I don’t have any problems with homosexuals or anything. I have a few gay friends, and if people are that upset about the usage of the word I apologise.
Secondly, I’m usually not disrespectful towards adults, I’m almost 18 and I’ve never had an argument like that before. It started out as a kid joining our lobby pretty much talking trash to me and other people right from the get go. Then we started calling him names and he got his mum on the mic. I was like “Yeah your son” and then she cut me off saying “What do you fucking want, douchebag?”. From there she was attacked by almost everyone in the lobby.
So, there you have it. We’ve reached out to both sides to mediate this dispute, Maury Povich-style. Stay tuned.
Braaains
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:47 AMI had an awesome time playing Bad Company 2 last night :)
Braaains
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:50 AMHit Submit too soon…
What I was trying to say was I had a great time playing BC2 last night because all of these… “people”… were busy playing COD.
Johnny Sweetbread
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:57 AMTouché!
Richard
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:20 AMIs there some kind of BFBC2 PC Kotaku Australia clan?
If not, we should make one. We can call it ‘the Klan’ for short.
Stefan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:32 PMmethinks the be a good idea
Richard
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 2:05 PMWelp, my EA name is ‘spotpilgrim’ if any PC BC2 players want to squad up.
Braaains
Friday, July 1, 2011 at 12:44 AMp.s. I suck at CoD… that’s why I play other crummy games.. I love my mommy.. she is gentil to me… but rough too when she has to be.
From,
Braaains
weresmurf
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM*opens envelope* She is NOT YOUR MOTHER!!!!!
Gman
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:54 AMI love it how every justification of an argument (particularly when it comes to homosexuality) contains “I have gay friends”.
It’s about as useful to the argument as saying “I’m a psychologist” (unless you have proof of course).
Noobheadshot
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:11 AMAnother popular homophobic statement is “I have nothing against homosexual’s but …”
The Insufferable Senor Steengo
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:04 PMI have nothing against homosexuals, but the weather is really nice today.
Bobdabuilda
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:08 PMAs they say… “Everything before the ‘but’ is bulls$#t” :)
Seegrey
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM“Faggot” is the best justification, honestly. “It’s just an insult, it doesn’t mean I hate those types of people” is such bs. Ignoring for a moment that homo is latin for man in the species, man-kind sense, not male, using anything as an insult requires you to perceive it as a negative label. In this case, he does see it as a bad thing, probably because he has been socially groomed like oh so many to do so.
Remember kids, if you don’t know the actual meaning of a word, and don’t know why it’s insulting, don’t use it. You just look like an ignorant, unthinking social parasite, and that’s a very, very bad thing.
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:36 PMPretty much this.
thabananaman
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:58 PMWhat gets me is that the original meaning of “faggot” was “a bundle of sticks”. Correct grammer and spelling may not be “street” but it’s how i roll.
Pete
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 2:07 PMYou spelt “grammar” wrong.
706
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:14 PMBAM
True faggot has changed definitions many times, it wasn’t even a slur against gays to begin with. Perhaps one day when gays are widely accepted it will change again to be a slur against a new group. Because of that I kind of feel like it has less power as an insult, but I still try not to use it.
Words only have the power we give them, but it isn’t enough for me to say the word doesn’t have power, the people who would be harmed by it have to feel the same.
Steve0410
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:22 PMahahaha
“Correct grammer (sic) and spelling may not be “street” but it’s how i roll.”
This is too precious.
Travis
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 8:43 PMI believe southpark already covered the word ‘f♥ggot’. You have every right to be offended but at the end of the day he isn’t actively persecuting actual homosexuals so who really gives a sh♥t, people need to mature and grow up.
Greg
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:17 PMthe homo in homosexual actually means “same” not man…
Kai
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:01 PMHa ha, this is so true!
Ruen
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:59 AM. . .and this is why I don’t use Xbox Live
static_22
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:44 AMOh so much this!
Ragman
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 2:31 PMFor me I prefer free online gaming as I already paid for the game once!
James Mac
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:12 PMThen why are you 3 here commenting on this?
Dean
Friday, July 1, 2011 at 11:25 AMAs a daily xboxlive player for many years I have only experienced this type of behaviour and level of talking poo on CoD.
So, this behaviour is not a reflection of xlive, but of CoD… and Americans =P
706
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:03 AMThat actually sounds like a well written and reasonable response from the kid. Good on him I suppose for that, can’t listen to the audio at the moment to see whether he is in the wrong, but if what he says is true I’m not about to get sympathetic to the mother.
Braaains
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:26 AMI’ve got no sympathy for either one of them. I hope they BOTH get hit with the banhammer – God knows they both deserve it.
I’m not sure why XBL seems to see so much more of this kind of thing. Is it because there are more Americans on there (they seem to be involved in the majority of these cases)? Or because the ubiquity of headsets there means that every single tosser on there can hurl abuse?
Joe Mama
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:45 AMEvery country’s assholes stink Braains.
Ollie
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:00 PMWell I’m thinking that because its noramlly 18 and under you shoot their mouths off, its their parents who buy the consoles and with the 360 being a cheaper option…
Jordaan Mylonas
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:12 AMBetter idea, don’t let a 12year old play an MA15+ game.
AkyraStrike
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:50 PM+1
Con
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:58 PMIn this case an M17+ rated game, being the US. Parenting!
Chazz
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:13 AMThat was funny!
I wish it was like that when I’m in a lobby on MW2.
DENAz
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:21 AMWho cares? I honestly don’t see the big deal
Its online gaming, people will always talk shit to anyone who will listen. Plus the mother wasn’t helping either screaming down the mic at him like she was.
SydneyJim
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:42 AMI dont hear any of this playing Xbox live in Aus…. oh yeah that because we’re not American :)
I mean c’mon? Going at it with someone’s Mum and lets use that term loosely as she’s playing COD with a bunch of kids. Great parenting skills there!
M1557
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:50 AMVideo link is broken.
Got the source link?
The Insufferable Senor Steengo
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:58 AMI’m not usually disrespectful towards adults, but when I am, it’s on Xbox Live.
Swipe
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:32 PMHa! Brilliant. I think you win.
Azoshi
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM“I don’t have any problems with homosexuals or anything.” – Typical reply from a homophobe.
Swipe
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:35 PMTo be fair… Typical Response from pretty much everyone. That could class “Typical reply from a homophobe.” as being a homophobophobe.
Yeah.
milali
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:09 PMIts disgusting and its this type of behaviour that should have this persons account CLOSED. If you tried that in an MMO your account would be closed before you logged in next.
Having that much proof of somehow abusing someone like that and he gets off Scott free is why FPS world is full of them.
You can bet your bottom dollar if there was actual repercussions for being a tool online it would slow dramatically.
Its a failure of the gaming systems to not enforce the rules they set. In this case you CLEARLY have visual proof of someone who should be made an example of and have his account close.
But what happens? nothing.
DENAz
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:58 PMOh no, he’ll be banned for that, no doubt about it.
josh
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:35 PMgoes to their Gamercards, Mute
problem solved
damm americans….
Jerkoff
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 12:38 PMI only got one question?
Why did he compare Boston to retards?
Isn’t Massachusetts like the most educated state in the United States?
Steve0410
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:24 PMIn the college towns, sure… But there are still tonnes of uneducated Irish people in MA
PunkDrunk
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:45 PMYep, that’s pretty much the reason I dont play COD.
it's true
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:53 PMI call people faggots on XBL ALL the time.
It’s ok though, because I myself, am gay.
Mdrit
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PMI couldn’t disagree more. I am a 34yo gay gamer and I find the use of that word both upsetting and offensive. It’s about time people stop thinking it’s an ok word to use as an insult.
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:36 PMAgreed.
I don’t see how it’s fine at all, even in irony.
706
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:11 PMI read that comment and assumed they were pointing out that concept in comedy in a satirical way. “I can make jokes about X because I am X” where X is religion, race or sexual orientation. If so I agree, that such an idea is quite stupid and really only makes things worse. However if they truly mean that they think it is ok to call others gay because they are, that is a very flawed way to look at things.
I agree that gay should not be an insult or a derogatory word, I used it a lot in school because it was what everyone said. Gay basically meant the same thing as bad, but once I left school I realised how stupid and offensive this was and stopped.
Femto
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 3:03 PMI sounds like a wuss talking smack and the mum sounds like trailer trash. Not a good listen.
bapslap
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:17 PMExplain “homophobe” to me.
If I mock someone for bestiality, necrophilia, or even sleeping with fat/ugly women I’m still cool, right? Maybe a bit rude, but I can still be attracted to beautiful women, yeah?
But if I insult a homosexual it means I secretly want to have sex with a man?
Take a look at yourselves, it’s the politically correct version of “I know you are, but what am I?” or “whoever smelt it dealt it”. Get over yourselves and grow up.
And while we’re talking double standards, it’s fine for the homosexual community to appropriate words like “gay” and “queer”, but straight people can’t take the word “faggot” back? Discriminate much?
LinkageAX
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:43 PMErr… no, the phobe portion comes from the word phobia, which means that you have an irrational fear of that thing.
bapslap
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:48 PMI think you will find that most people use it to mean a fear of those feelings in oneself.
Either way, why should insulting imply fear?
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:01 PMIn that case it would be ‘internalised homophobia’. It does exist, but it’s not why most people use the word.
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:44 PMA few things.
Homophobia isn’t used as an insult, it’s used as a fact – it’s a word used to describe people who fear or irrationally hate the concept of homosexuality and/or gay/lesbian/transgender people.
If you mock someone for something like bestiality or necrophilia, you’re pointing out illegal behaviour. If you mock someone for a fat or ugly partner, you’re just being a douche. If you insult a homosexual out of fear or disgust then yes, you’re homophobic.
There’s nothing politically correct about it, and there’s definitely no subtext that all homophobes are secretly gay. That’s never the right way to use the word.
It’s a pretty simple definition, in the same way that arachnophobes fear spiders and agoraphobes fear the outdoors.
bapslap
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 4:51 PMIt’s a weak self-defense mechanism.
“He insulted me, he must be scared of me”.
Kai
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:01 PMI smell homophobia.
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:01 PMWhat other reason for insults is there, apart from fear or disgust? Both are covered by the term.
706
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:06 PMThere is so much wrong with bapslap’s comments that I don’t know what to say. He is speaking like he is talking about an argument between 2 people calling each other gay, probably first hand experience from the way he talks.
Homophobia isn’t about people arguing, it is about people fearing homosexuality or finding it offensive. It makes even less sense than racism and any intelligent person knows racism is wrong and isn’t grounded in fact but instead stereotypes.
It isn’t a self defense mechanism to call someone who has a problem with homosexuality a homophobe, it is the very definition of the word.
bapslap
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:16 PMNo, it’s a blanket term used by the precious whenever anybody speaks or acts negatively towards a homosexual.
That bit about “first hand experience” was pretty insulting, you must be a heterophobe.
bapslap
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:11 PMAnger? Lulz? Disagreement? Payback? Bravado? Fitting in?
I do not feel fear or disgust towards every single thing I speak negatively about. Do you?
Aidan
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:19 PMOkay, I see your point.
In that case it wouldn’t be homophobia and people who call it that are probably wrong (and overreacting).
But it’s still being a dick.
Ben
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 5:11 PMSoooo they’re too stupid to mute now?
MaXX
Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 6:16 PMHow old was her son?
Was he actually 12?
What’s the rating on that game?
Yup, she’s pretty stupid.
Braaains
Friday, July 1, 2011 at 12:42 AMDear Braaains, I’m an idiot… my mother likes to do things to me…
From Braaains
Matt
Friday, July 1, 2011 at 2:42 AMwould have been better for him to knife her and tbag her