It’s Official: Xbox 360 Gets TV (In Australia Too!)

Following weeks of rumours and speculation, Microsoft today confirmed that they have teamed up with 40 TV and entertainment providers to bring shows to Xbox Live.

Here’s the full rundown of the partnerships (existing and new) for all countries. The list includes ABC iView, Crackle and SBS On Demand in Australia and will start hitting consoles this Christmas.

What we still don’t know, based on the single post on the Xbox.com Major Nelson blog post, is how exactly this content will show up on the console.

On their own blog, Verizon says the deal is in line with their business of “breaking down old technology boundaries to create a borderless world…

“We’ve announced that we are now collaborating with Microsoft to soon deliver a great selection of live, FiOS TV channels over the Xbox Entertainment System,” wrote Verizon’s Bobbi Henson. “What really makes this exciting is that this innovative, new service will integrate live, multi-channel streaming HD TV and Kinect voice and gesture commands via the Xbox.”

That certainly sounds like IPTV. In the US, Verizon says they plan to offer the service in time for Christmas to customers who subscribe to both FIOS TV, FIOS Internet and have an Xbox Live Gold membership. That’s a whole lotta subscriptions for one thing. More details from Verizon are promised as the launch date approaches.

“By bringing the technologically advanced Verizon FiOS TV service to Xbox 360 and Kinect, we are advancing our vision to provide the best in entertainment in extraordinary new ways,” said Tom Gibbons, corporate vice president of the TV & Service Business for the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft. “Xbox 360 brings all your entertainment, friends and family together in one place, and we look forward to introducing Verizon FiOS TV to the console this holiday.”

Comcast, on their blog, says the content will be bringing to the Xbox 360 will essentially be what iPhone, iPad and PC owners can already access through the company’s Xfinity app. So basically on free on demand content.

Here’s the full list of international TV providers:

• ABC iView — Australia
• AlloCiné — France, Germany, Spain, UK
• Antena 3 — Spain
• Astral Media’s Disney XD — Canada
• AT&T** — US
• BBC — UK
• blinkbox — UK
• Bravo — US
• BSkyB** — UK
• Canal+* — France, Spain
• Channel 4 — UK
• Channel 5 — UK
• CinemaNow (Best Buy) — US
• Comcast — US
• Crackle — Australia, Canada, UK, US
• Dailymotion — Available in 32 markets
• EPIX — US
• ESPN** — US
• Facebook** — Available in all 35 Xbox LIVE markets
• FOXTEL** — Australia
• GolTV — Spain
• HBO GO — US
• Hulu — Japan
• Hulu +**– US
• iHeartRadio (Clear Channel) — US
• Last.fm** — UK, US
• LOVEFiLM — Germany, UK
• Manga Entertainment — US
• Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment/Real Sports — Canada
• MediaSet — Italy
• MSN with MSNBC.com — Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Spain, UK
• MUZU.TV — France, Germany, Italy, Spain, UK
• Netflix**– Canada, US
• Rogers On Demand Online (RODO) — Canada
• RTVE — Spain
• SBS On Demand — Australia
• Syfy — US
• Telefonica — Spain
• Televisa — Mexico
• “The Today Show” — US
• TELUS** — Canada
• TMZ — US
• Twitter** — Available in all 35 Xbox LIVE markets
• UFC — Canada, US
• Verizon — US
• VEVO — Canada, UK, US
• VimpelCom** — Russia
• Vodafone Portugal** — Portugal
• YouTube — Available in 22 markets
• ZDF — Germany
• Zune** — Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain

Xbox LIVE Gold membership and/or other subscriptions/fees required. ** Denotes existing partners on Xbox LIVE available today.

Xbox 360 Teams Up With Entertainment Leaders to Transform TV

Discuss

(101 Comments)
  • [–]

    FatShady

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 7:58 AM

    Cool. Interesting to see where this goes. I’m only starting to stream content and I love it. So glad that M$ are going down this path.

    Just hope there is a fair amount if free content (ad supported). I’m happy with that.

    • [–]

      Chris

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:22 AM

      “ad supported”

      I’m sure the ABC would be happy with that.

  • [–]

    Meteors

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:07 AM

    Why would you watch these free to air channels through your xbox?

    • [–]

      Meteors

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:14 AM

      Oops, meant to say the UK ones like BBC, channel 4 & 5 that aren’t On demand ones.

      • [–]

        Kenzor

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM

        Well I for one can’t get free to air TV so have to rely on online services. Plugging my laptop into the TV gets really annoying after a while.

    • [–]

      Lt HELI

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:55 AM

      Because you can?

      /rollseyes

      • [–]

        Meteors

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM

        Good one. Go plug your xbox into your tv that already gets these channels so you can watch them through the xbox.

        • [–]

          Black Dahlia NZ

          Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM

          not one of these channels is available in NZ, and looks like they still arent :(

          • [–]

            Pariah

            Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM

            PS3 and PlayTV has them. umad?

            • [–]

              Black Dahlia NZ

              Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 5:00 PM

              not in NZ they dont ballbag

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:54 PM

                it’s called importing. Smart gamers do that.

            • [–]

              Black Dahlia NZ

              Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 5:07 PM

              u mad when you couldnt get on PSN for over a month? or when they took your free games off you unless you paid.

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:53 PM

                Haha, not really, I gamed on my PC instead. That too is superior to Xbox Live.

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 7:13 PM

                It’s also pretty funny that that’s the only thing XBL fanboys can say about PSN. Somehow you think getting regularly hacked, paying for should-be free stuff, and being forces to use inferior storage mediums is more fun xD

    • [–]

      DKnight1000

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM

      With ABC I was getting the impression it was Iview, so I can watch the shows I missed on my TV, rather than my PC.

      And I don’t know what Crackle is, so that’s a bouns.

  • [–]

    Jack

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:10 AM

    Because it’s catch up content & easier than watching on your PC…

  • [–]

    Cameron

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:14 AM

    So we only get iView, “Crackle” (whatever that is), and SBS on demand?

    • [–]

      Jack

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:41 AM

      Plus YouTube & DailyMotion

      • [–]

        N0NEoftheAB0VE

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 12:20 PM

        Youtube is where it’s at for me – I still watch on avg 3 or 4 vids a day on there and to have on the TV would kick ass.

        • [–]

          James Mac

          Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM

          The ‘All your history are belong to us’ series on my big screen?

          Hell yeah.

  • [–]

    PseudoEdge

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:25 AM

    Crackle has movies and tv shows for streaming. Although most are old reruns like Seinfeld.

  • [–]

    McGarnical

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:26 AM

    Come back when we get HBO.

    (Yeah I know I’m dreaming..!)

  • [–]

    Korwin

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM

    Hope it’s better than the Foxtel integration which gets locked to a single console.

  • [–]

    f4ction

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 8:59 AM

    Sounds pretty boring to me. I was excited when I saw HBO and SyFy. Oh well, back to torrenting.

  • [–]

    Stevorooni

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:01 AM

    Based on the crackle website it looks mostly like 80/90′s stuff and direct to dvd movies.

  • [–]

    Adam

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    Thinking of buying an Xbox – what’s the Foxtel service like on it? I know it’s streaming, so is it reliable? iView, etc looks rubbish on the PS3, so wondering if it’s any better than that?

    • [–]

      f4ction

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM

      Doesn’t iView depend on your connection? I’ve got mine set to max and it looks fine (not HD though) but it crawls a bit even on my cable connection.

    • [–]

      MikeZdoesit

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

      Its actually brilliant, some excellent channels and content and at very cheap price with no lock in contracts like fetch or some other internet TV deals. My wife was against it at first but now shes clicking through catch up all the time (and she isnt to good with using stuff!).

    • [–]

      Prashy

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM

      It’s reliable if you have a good internet connection (like me). Plus, all the things MikeZdoesit said.

  • [–]

    Aliasalpha

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM

    Verizon says the deal is in line with their business of “breaking down old technology boundaries to create a borderless world… We would have said this in a video but it wouldn’t be available in your region”

    Until people start providing content without regional restriction, “differently legal” downloads are always going to be the superior alternative for the simple fact that you can get what you actually want.

  • [–]

    Matthew K

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM

    For a moment there I thought XBox Live for Australia would be on par with XBox Live for the US for once. How silly of me.

    I’ll continue to use the iView, 7plus, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube widgets on my TV. Or, you know, my PC.

  • [–]

    moloko

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:41 AM

    LOL I cant even get foxtel

  • [–]

    doubleDizz

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:48 AM

    wait does this mean we might get HBO on XBL???

    Would be SO stoked if thats the case

    • [–]

      f4ction

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM

      No.

      • [–]

        doubleDizz

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:24 PM

        BOOOO

  • [–]

    mchaza

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM

    I dont see why the couldnt get 10, 7, 9 on and have ads that they make money on play as well? My guess is that ms wanted a piece of the pie.

  • [–]

    Pariah

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM

    Because in terms of computing power in comparison to the PS3, the Xbox 360 is as powerful as a TV set top box. This finally shows the Xbox’s true potential.

    -trollface-

    • [–]

      Black Dahlia NZ

      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM

      Im sure playtv was a seperate set top box for the ps3, what does that say about ps3′s computing power.

      • [–]

        Pariah

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM

        PS3 can handle every channel the country has and doesn’t rely on the internet?

      • [–]

        Pariah

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:15 AM

        Also, PS3′s had ABC iView for ages, and none of the TV stuff requires PS+. That’s right, some companies give stuff out for free.

        • [–]

          Black Dahlia NZ

          Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:48 AM

          do they give out playtv free? sign me up

        • [–]

          It's free when you pay for them

          Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:22 PM

          I remember The last time Sony gave away something for free….. Yeah my private information and credit card details, they gave em free to someone else. They also offered me free games and discounts if I paid a monthly fee, but then told me if I didn’t keep paying they would take the free games back…… Umm go figure…

          • [–]

            Pariah

            Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 4:36 PM

            Lol, ignorant kid. Sony didn’t give them, they were taken, and the same stunt actually can’t happen again given the changes made and the fact that only the latest firmware can access PSN. Just look at PS3 hack sites; new CFW is out, but none of it can access PSN at all.

            Funny how our service just doesn’t go down randomly via human error; PSN is reliable.

            • [–]

              It's free when you pay for them

              Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM

              Ignorant kid??LOL. Dude look at you trolling this thread. Taken, given away the credit card info, it’s a joke, it’s sarcasm….PSN just doesn’t go down randomly, I’m on PSN and has gone down randomly several times and for weeks on end also which was due to a massive human error……. Keep up ya Sony damage control rants kid

              • [–]

                thepariah4231

                Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:40 PM

                Ah, finally someone catches on. Lol, I’m no fanboy, I game on everything; just figured this thread would be the perfect opportunity to bait some fanboys. Evidently, I’m a successful troll.

                Though to be perfectly fair, it doesn’t go down randomly due to human error. Only times it does go down is for maintenance, and that one hacking incident. Also if you want to speak of platform security, just keep this in mind: True, nothing is hackproof. If you want to laugh at how PSN took 5 years but was eventually hacked, Xbox Live didn’t even have five months before pirated games were possible and hacked game lobbies were showing up in popular games. PS3 doesn’t even have hacked game lobbies. In that sense, PSN is far more secure. I win.

                • [–]

                  Black Dahlia NZ

                  Friday, October 7, 2011 at 8:09 AM

                  you obviously havent played MW on ps3, its a hacked joke

                  • [–]

                    It's free when you pay for them

                    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 9:57 AM

                    PSN more secure……..LOL, you are blinded
                    The only thing you win is the Annual fanboy award at Kotaku

                    • [–]

                      Pariah

                      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM

                      “It’s free when you pay for them” Haha, I’m not blinded in the slightest. Show me proof (relevant, recent proof) of hackers making it onto PSN after the breach, because it doesn’t exist at all and is far more secure.

                      Xbox always has hackers. Always. Check CoD. How can one claim that XBL users are more secure when the service relies on the terrible Windows Live ID system, that people can hack without even trying, and steal your account easily?

                      Haha, you call Me blinded.

                  • [–]

                    Pariah

                    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM

                    Haha, that’s not the case at all. Just because you suck ass doesn’t make the game full of hackers.

                    • [–]

                      Black Dahlia NZ

                      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:30 PM

                      what rank do I have to be to unlock unlimited grenade launcher that fires like a machine gun, or the Reset everyones stats perk.

                    • [–]

                      Pariah

                      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM

                      Any rank you want on the Xbox.

      • [–]

        Pariah

        Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:21 AM

        It also screams that the PS3 is superior, since PS3 can not only watch TV, but Record it in real-time. I’d like to see you do that on 360.

        -trollface-

        • [–]

          Black Dahlia NZ

          Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM

          it screams you watch tv more than play games which is want I want a console for.

          • [–]

            Pariah

            Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 12:26 PM

            Not at all. I game far more than I watch TV. I’m only saying I can watch TV whenever I want, with more channels, without the internet and without subscription fees.

            • [–]

              Black Dahlia NZ

              Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM

              if you cant afford $1.50 a week there must be a problem, anyway its all good Chad Warden.

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM

                It’s not that people can’t afford it, it’s that people Shouldn’t Have To pay it. GOnly on Xbox: Pay for free stuff. For instance, ABC iView, that’s free on PC and PS3. Basic online play, free on EVERYTHING ELSE.

                Have fun paying $72 a year for stuff that’s actually free, you idiot.

                • [–]

                  doubleDizz

                  Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:33 PM

                  hahaha I love the hardcore ps3 fanboy who clings to that fact constantly.

                  I can’t say I’m stoked about paying the XBL annual service fee (which I NEVER pay $72 for! jesus christ boy learn2internet!) but if the only other option (on console) is to get a PS3 and use PSN…. yea I’ll stick with XBL haha

                  You get what you pay for, and PSN doesn’t half the functionality XBL does.

                  • [–]

                    Pariah

                    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

                    Learn2internet? I actually took Black Dahlia’s figure and multiplied it by 52 (since he apparently pays $1.50 per week). Trust your fellow members to know how much they’re paying, huh? People are stupid.

                    It’s not the only other option; you could make your way from the little leagues and get a PC and Steam.

                    PSN is by far superior to XBL. You pay cash for necessities and the only extra you get is the ability to play in a party; pretty small in the scheme of things.

                    • [–]

                      Black Dahlia NZ

                      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 8:15 AM

                      thats bad maths

                • [–]

                  Jack

                  Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM

                  ABC will be free, it’s not behind gold.
                  Quote from ABC “We’re excited to confirm that this will soon include Microsoft Xbox LIVE, subscription free.”

                  • [–]

                    Pariah

                    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM

                    Learn to read the article beyond the title and first few sentences. I’ll put it here for you;

                    *rest of list here*
                    • YouTube — Available in 22 markets
                    • ZDF — Germany
                    • Zune** — Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain

                    *Xbox LIVE Gold membership* and/or other subscriptions/fees *required*.

                    • [–]

                      thxultra

                      Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM

                      Goddamn, stop feeding the troll!!!

  • [–]

    aniel

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    Looks like we over here in NZ are getting screwed over yet again by Micro soft, we have Zune but don’t even get all the movies that AUS gets, and 100% bet we won’t even get You tube Fucking sad MS

  • [–]

    Mulac

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    What is HBO GO? If it’s just HBO, then Hooray!

  • [–]

    N7 jpicard

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 7:11 PM

    @Pariah

    TROLL ALERT

    Get off your high horse fanboy.

    • [–]

      Pariah

      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:00 AM

      Took all day but someone finally gets it xD I’m not a fanboy but I’d say my trolling was successful.

      • [–]

        Black Dahlia NZ

        Friday, October 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM

        “Back in your hole, grub”

        • [–]

          Pariah

          Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM

          Because Kotaku won’t let me reply to your “that’s bad maths”, I’ll ask you why that is? You said you pay a dollar fifty a week. That makes 72 dollars every year. Get your own facts straight.. you’d think you’d know what you pay on such an inferior service.

          • [–]

            Black Dahlia NZ

            Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM

            52 x $1.50 is $78 not $72

            • [–]

              Black Dahlia NZ

              Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM

              makes me wonder about some of these stats your pulling out, are they part of your 48 weeks a year sony calendar.

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Friday, October 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM

                Not at all. Though if you did the research instead of acting like a blind fanboy you’d know I’m right. Sad, isn’t it?

                • [–]

                  Black Dahlia NZ

                  Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:49 PM

                  what research you muppet, its called a calculator, no matter how hard you try 1.50 x 52 will never equal 72

                  • [–]

                    Pariah

                    Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:58 PM

                    what do you know? I hit 2 instead of 8 when I replied. Doesn’t change the facts, though. You’re still paying shitloads for a free service.

                    What research? Try looking at a few hack sites for both Xbox and PS3, and tell me which console can hack online? Or I’ll just do it for you and say that you can’t connect to PSN with a hacked PS3, but you can hack on Xbox Live. The funny thing is, you say Xbox Live is far more secure, despite the accounts being managed by the Windows Live ID system; where WLM accounts get jacked every other day. Not the safest place to store account information, is it?

                    PSN is much more secure in that regard, stored actually On PSN. and since the previous hack cannot occur again in that way, it’ll remain much safer, too.

                    Umad fanboy?

  • [–]

    Reags

    Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 10:02 PM

    HBO or GTFO

  • [–]

    Kid

    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 2:49 AM

    If its already on the internet and you still pay for internet bandwidth. It aint free or anything new.

    • [–]

      Pariah

      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM

      Precisely. Meanwhile on PlayTV, where you watch REAL TV for free (once you have the unit, obviously. No subscription charges or any of that shit), and not only does it not need the internet at all, you can record what you watch.

      Xbox is so inferior here.

      • [–]

        Black Dahlia NZ

        Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM

        playtv is around $160, thats 2 years xbox live subscription, why would anyone want that when its free on tv anyway? dunno if you’ve bought a tv recently but they all have built in (in new zealand) freeview which is basically what playtv does.

        • [–]

          Pariah

          Friday, October 7, 2011 at 3:54 PM

          With that being said I’m questioning why you’d bother with this shitty excuse of a console for TV.

        • [–]

          Pariah

          Friday, October 7, 2011 at 6:07 PM

          So, you question My facts and you can’t even look up the price of PlayTV? It’s not 160 dollars, not even close. Silly fanboy.

          • [–]

            Black Dahlia NZ

            Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:42 PM

            not a fanboy, a “troll” and it “worked”

            • [–]

              Black Dahlia NZ

              Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:44 PM

              http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/PS3/Play-TV/3668744/

              • [–]

                Pariah

                Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 7:01 PM

                What’s this, you don’t know where to import? Haha, oh this is funny.

                Try looking at sites like ozgameshop, the products are much cheaper and they do free shipping for AU and NZ.

                Though, Actual TV through PlayTV will always trump internet TV through Xbox, because you needn’t wait for it to buffer and it won’t use any bandwidth at all. That’s just the way it is.

  • [–]

    Kid

    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 2:57 AM

    *High-5′s Pariah*

  • [–]

    Black Dahlia NZ

    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 1:54 PM

    @ Pooriah: I’ve prestiged about 8 times now on xbox and never seen anything like whats happened on the dismal psn.

    • [–]

      Pooriah

      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 5:14 PM

      So you have no life on Xbox, and you paid to play the same game on another platform? How stupid can you get?

      • [–]

        Black Dahlia NZ

        Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

        its not stupid, just sick of PSN bullshit, money well invested on XBL

        • [–]

          Pariah

          Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:48 PM

          Sick of PSN bullshit? Lol, lets compare the two services;
          Xbox Live:
          Full of children
          pay for play
          games often have hacked lobbies/cheaters
          accounts get hacked and stolen

          PSN:
          Nowhere near as many kids
          Free to play, pay for additional benefits
          No hacked libbies/cheaters
          individual accounts do not get stolen

          Only time PSN had account details stolen was back early this year, never before and now never after. One resolved incident as opposed to Many, regularly-occuring ones. who knows, next month you’ll likely be gaming on a Wii.

          • [–]

            Pariah

            Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:49 PM

            *lobbies

  • [–]

    desallis

    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM

    And who pays for this “free” service?
    Not sony
    Its passed along to the publishers

    “While no one is willing to speak on the record, publishers are obviously not happy. “It definitely makes us think about how we view the distribution of content related to our games when it is free for us to do it on the web, on Xbox Live, or any other way—including broadcast—than on Sony’s platform,” a source told Multiplayer. “It’s a new thing we have to budget. It’s not cool. It sucks.””

    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/03/someone-pays-sony-charges-publishers-for-ps3-bandwidth.ars

    At the end of the day you get what you pay for

    • [–]

      Pariah

      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM

      Lol, you’ve forgotten about PS+, but that didn’t exist when this old news was out.

      At the end of the day you get what you pay for? You’d know, paying for stuff that’s free on EVERYTHING ELSE. Pay nothing in Steam, yet you get shitloads of stuff. Pay nothing in PSN, you get shitloads of stuff. Pay on XBL, get online play.

      Pay Microsoft anything; get ripped off. You’re such an idiot.

      • [–]

        Black Dahlia NZ

        Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM

        crawl back under your rock troll, PS+ is a joke, why would anyone pay for the same crappy service when they can get it for free, im sure if you asked anyone who have played PSN and XBL (obviously you havent) they would all agree XBL is better, your just a blind biased fanboy

        • [–]

          Pariah

          Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM

          Just because I disagree with you doesn’t make me biased, stupid XBL fanboy.

          You evidently don’t know what PS+ is, or what it’s for. The idea behind it is that users get a fair amount of bonus stuff, such as full games, discounts etc. for the duration of their subscription. Anything they buy at discount is theirs to keep. And then you gain stuff like online savedata backup (something you don’t have. u jelly?)

          You gain that in addition to the essential basics, like online play, which You must pay for. That said, I find your choice of words to be quite interesting. Black Dahlia, why would You pay for a crappy service when you can get those features for free (on everything else but your poor excuse for a gaming platform)?

          Yes, I have actually used Xbox Live, and I’m yet to find One good reason to pay for stuff I can get for free. Care to give me one? And no, having the opportunity to play adult games with little boys and girls does not count.

    • [–]

      Pariah

      Friday, October 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM

      Speaking of getting what you pay for; why is XBL far less secure if you pay shitloads?

      http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131

      http://techmento.com/2011/06/18/xbox-live-hacked-60000-accounts-leaked/

      And this happens regularly despite MS’s attempts.

      PSN, on the other hand, has absolutely no hacks of any kind post-PSN-breach.

      You’re partially right. You get the bullshit you pay for. We pay nothing; we get no bullshit. You get it monthly.

  • [–]

    A Random Haruhiist

    Friday, October 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM

    I must say I agree with Pariah here, why should you pay for something that is free in the first place? Furthermore, why should we have to watch it over the internet which would cost us more money for our downloads when we can just use PlayTV through a cable?

    Also, PlayTV > Any Freeview built-in TV. I doubt the TV can record and even if it could it would need some sort of external storage.

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      Pariah

      Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 3:11 AM

      ^ That. Thank you kind sir.

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      Black Dahlia NZ

      Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 4:59 PM

      but playtv isnt free either, your paying for xbox live anyway (well most people interested in this i’d imagine)

      tv with built in freeview/recorder: http://www.trustedreviews.com/JVC-LT-32DE9BJ-32in-LCD-TV—PVR_TV_review

      im pretty sure USA, UK have unlimited internet which wouldnt be an issue as most the channels for them anyway.

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        Pariah

        Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:29 PM

        I know PlayTV isn’t free, but it’s pretty cheap, especially in comparison to what you just presented.

        On that note, PlayTV is superior to the TV you presented, in that I’d rather just buy an addon, and then use my 500gb PS3 to playback and record on, rather than waste heaps of cash on another TV. Also, that’s disappointing? only 160gb?

        What you presented is moot.

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        Pariah

        Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 6:30 PM

        I know the concept of a “good addon” is hard for you to grasp, having had to put up with HD-DVD and all.

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