Here’s a quick question — yes or no. You’ve most likely bought a PS4 in the last couple of years.
Is a new PS4, powerful enough for 4K, something you’d be interested in buying?
It’s funny, because my gut instinct was no. But then I thought about how often I upgrade my phone. Then I wondered how much it might cost.
Before I knew it I was like, maybe this isn’t a bad idea after all?
But my gut instinct is that it is a bad idea. That’s difficult to shift.
What say you?
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85 responses to “The Big Question: Would You Buy A PS4.5?”
No, no I haven’t. I bought a PS3 in the last couple of years though. So given my lag buying consoles I suppose I’m due for a Wii U right about now.
One step ahead here, bought a Wii U a few months ago, didn’t regret it.
I’d rather buy a second Wii U before I buy a second even if updated PS4 or Xbox One, considering how everyone in my family wants to play different Wii U games, with PS4 and Xbox One not making the top 10 list of most played games.
I bought a PS3 about a year ago just to play The Last of Us. I regret nothing.
It’ll cost less than a decent phone most likely. But there is the psychological barrier of how long a console should last.
Is this the iphone crowd? What possible reason do they have to upgrade a phone every year? Sounds absurd.
I know of one person who buys every single product Apple releases. But the general consensus is about 2 years? I upgrade very 3 years because then work will completely pay for it 🙂
Couldn’t afford it even if I wanted to.
I don’t like where this is headed at all. I’m slowly becoming a retro gamer because I’ve neither the time, money nor inclination to stay on top of all this.
I don’t play my PS4 enough to justify buying another one at this time + I don’t have a 4K TV. I would consider getting one way down track if they release some compact slim version and they’re on special.
I seriously doubt it’ll be enough of an upgrade to enable 4K gaming. 4K video playback, perhaps, but there isn’t a huge amount of 4K content on physical media and my non-NBN internet connection is unlikely to be much use for streaming it. And I don’t have a 4K TV anyway. So, no.
It’ll be interesting to see where it fits in with the current PS4, though. Does that get a price cut and this slots in at the current price? Or does this come in at a higher price? I wonder if we’ll see sales of the existing PS4 drop off a cliff while everybody who is thinking of buying one decides to hold off for the new version.
If it has the power to play games at 4K, it’ll price itself out of the market – high-end PCs still struggle with 4K at an acceptable framerate. But, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – if it offers better performance with 1080p60 gaming as standard (as Sony and Microsoft said their current gen offerings would, and ultimately failed to deliver), I’ll gladly upgrade to one.
4K video … most certainly. It’s apparently designed for playback of ultra HD bluray, after all. 4K Netflix will be possible too.
4K gaming … possible. It’ll have to be relatively simple, graphically. Journey, Flower, Super Meat Boy, The Witness, Pixeljunk Shooter, etc … perhaps even Rocket League. It’s possible any of these they may run in 4K native. Anything more complex, well, I guess 1080p or somewhere in between may be good enough.
I’ll predict that the PS4K will come in at the original PS4 price, while the current PS4 gets another cut.
4K blurays work on regular bluray players anyway.
No and i hope a lot of others feel that way. They should just fast track a ps5, have a 5 year cycle instead of 10. Older generations were ~5 year cycles anyway.
I’m fairly certain the only reason for a possible ps4.5 is VR. Surely there it is only a very small % of people that can actually make use of 4k (ie have a tv that can do it).
And an even smaller percentage have PSVR.
You can also pick up 4k tv’s for less than PSVR.
Though I doubt 4k gaming on the ps4.5 (or neo or whatever they end up calling it) will be a thing.
Man this is a tough one, I already have a PS VR on order. Now they want another what 450 out of me? But my gut feel is they don’t want to be viewed as the slower, less powerful one against the Xbox 1.5. Maybe MS are snookering Sony here…
btw my answer was ‘yes’ to the poll – yes I would. As to ‘when’.., well that’s the $450 dollar question.
To early to answer yes or no. If it’s cheap enough with a trade in on the old PS4 (example, PS4 + $200) then I’d consider it but it’s hard to say until we see the prices.
Hmm would be on the fence, I only turn the PS4 on for exclusives. so it is on a lot at the moment with Uncharted 4 and recently Rachet and Clank but prior to that I hadn’t touched it much since Bloodborne. Price dependent
Maybe.
I’d need a use case. 4K resolution? I don’t have a 4k TV, and nor do I care about frame rates. VR? Haven’t jumped on that either. I didn’t get a PS4 for nearly two years after release, because there were games (Witcher 3, Arkham Knight) that I wanted to play.
No, due to priorities. I’d rather a new shiny 1080. I haven’t booted my PS4 up for anything besides Netflix.
You will and you will like it. Hell, when the tech specs and Sony’s plans for the console were leaked, every outlet/podcast I frequent basically started the PR cycle for the thing.
The progression from hardware-based gaming to software-based gaming in the console space means unless you don’t keep up, you will fall behind and receive diminishing returns on your investment.
If you buy a console from the last generation now, you’re getting a lemon with half the best stuff literally switched off, instead of a machine with a lot of well-received and well-known hits.
That’s the great thing about being so invested in connectivity – you are a slave to planned or forced obsolescence.
No, most likely not. I’ve only had my PS4 for a little over a year. Not buying another one for at least another few years.
I voted YES and here are my reasons.
– I would buy it in replacement of a broken PS4 (this would be a definitely).
– If there are games from a favourite franchise that I wanted that required it, though that was ruled out wasn’t it?.
– If it enhances the performance of PS VR
– I get stupid around new tech and just buy stuff
I too thought about how I changed my phone every few years, and I thought about it recently and realise that this is more a habit than anything useful, my last two phones are fine still and I use them around the house as remotes. There wasn’t a real NEED to change, just a want.
That said I usually upgrade my PC every couple of years and the costs of that generally equate to a new console…. SO MUCH SPENDING ARGH !!!
Sony have said nothing will require it, every game that does take advantage of the extra power still has to be able to run on the 4.0.
Given a choice between Xbone and PS4, I’d probably go with PS4. And would figure it’d be better to go with PS4.5 since I’d assume it would have a better time running PSVR stuff, and that would be more of what I’d be interested in.
But I still don’t feel the need to get in on any of those systems, got plenty to do with my Wii U.
didn’t you ask this question a month ago?
Has it officially been announced yet or are well all still on speculation?
No. I have a PC. People who buy a PS4.5 should just switch if this is where it’s all heading.
I prefer a PC-lite where all the drivers and updates are dealt with for me, so I can just turn it on and play. In my younger days I was into PC building and the amount of time and frustration it involved at times was disheartening. Now I prefer to hedge my bets – taking a hit on graphical quality but having a stable platform. Trophies are cool too 🙂
So you’d just prefer a PC now? because drivers and updates are automatically dealt with on PC now as well. I haven’t had stability issues on PC for a very long time, I honestly, can’t remember the last game I had issues with.
I would not. I know you say it is great, but every time I turn on my Surface Pro 3 (Only Windows 10 PC I own), the silly thing does all kinds of updates and reboots, I just turn it off and leave it for 4 weeks or more. I am really not a Windows OS fan.
Allow me to give you an example. For the first time in a long time i bought a PC game – Dead Rising 3. It crashes every 15 minutes, with all the latest drivers installed. Known issues. Im pretty sure the X1 version doesnt do that. Until shit like this doesnt happen, Ill stick to consoles
Yeah, i got lucky with Dead Rising 3 and never had an issue. I understand some people ran into a fair few bugs at release because it was a really bad port. That said, those bugs don’t effect everyone, and if they effect you, just refund on Steam (and i do remember that for Dead Rising 3 they started giving refunds).
For the record, Dead Rising 3 also ran like shit on X1, (I think barely getting past 21 FPS on launch).
Shit like that will always occasionally happen, and it will happen across all platforms (remember Skyrim on PS3?).
If you were never going to buy a PS4 this question probably isnt for you anyway.
This is what i’m thinking of doing if PS4.5 comes out soon. If I purchase the PS4.5 I will be spending close to gaming PC cash (PS4 + PS4.5), so why not just get a PC?
Going to wait and see exactly what it is first, but my gut says no. I only buy exclusives on PS4 so if I want a better looking version of a multiplatform game I’ll get it on PC.
I might be tempted if PSVR is way better on the new console, but I get the feeling that the new console won’t be a must-have for current owners.
I don’t want to but I’m going to have to because it’s going to get released whether we like it or not because the current “generation” just isn’t cut out to handle HD above 30fps for the most part.
There’s no way Microsoft and Sony did not already know that before going to launch; they bundle them with tiny hard drives that they knew would fill to capacity with 3-5 games; and now want us to upgrade our consoles mid-cycle.
Yes. Only because I have an Xbox One and I want Ps4(.5)
This – probably by Xmas 2017 I’ll be in the market for a PS4 (I have an Xbone) and if 4.5 is better of course I’ll get that model. Couldn’t care less about VR though but remembering the later years of the 360 (so much pop-in) performance matters!
Your phone is a miniature PC designed to enable you to perform a multitude of activities and improve your productivity. Improved performance and graphics has an impact across a wide variety of areas, not just one, so it’s easily justified.
A PS4 on the other hand is more or less a dedicated games playing machine with some media capabilities that already has a benchmark for performance in the games available for it. There’s no reason for an incremental upgrade when it’s a fixed system like that, especially since doing so only puts more pressure on developers who now have to ensure two versions of the game work when they can barely get one working most of the time. Unless the PS4 starts getting productivity apps and other features that PCs and phones have, there’s no need for an incremental SKU.
Then why upgrade a gfx card on your PC? Isn’t it the same thing?
If a PS4.5 could play all of my games now at 60fps I’d buy it as soon as the price hit $500. Which is cheaper than almost every gfx card i’ve ever bought.
Probably not. I thought maybe, if the price is low enough as I need a new HDD but realistically if I ‘had to spend that much money on gaming’ I’d rather just spend the $100-200 on a bigger drive for my current PS4 and spend the rest on a new monitor or GPU for my PC or something…
Until I can afford the upgrade to 4k though, I don’t see either of those things happening 😛
Yes – the 500GB isn’t enough
Pretty sure it just uses laptop hard drives again like the PS2/3 so it only takes 5 minutes (and a couple $100 at most, depending on capacity) to replace it. Doesn’t even void the warranty – or didn’t for PS3 anyway, I haven’t got around to replacing my (almost always full) PS4 one yet either :/
Shhhhh it’s my ‘excuse’ to make an unnecessary purchase
Not in a pink fit.
Yes but only because I haven’t actually purchased a PS4 yet. 🙂
Shrug. I can’t see any reason to. Games shouldn’t be running any slower, I don’t have a 4K TV and don’t intend to in the next five years, I’m fine with the HD space I have now, and I don’t intend to get PS VR. At least not until it’s way the hell more mainstream and game dev have progressed past the gaming equivalent of that awkward initial stage that 3D movies went through where they insisted on throwing something at the screen every five minutes.
+1 for the 3D movies thing. Thank god that’s over.
Nope.
My PC that I’ve spent way too much on would struggle achieving an acceptable frame rate(60fps) in 4K. So I don’t see how a PS4.5 could do it without costing more than at least $1500, or Sony thinks 20fps is acceptable.
Likely Yes, but that’s because I’m likely to grab 4K or PSVR this year. Does hinge a lot on what the pricing is though.
I’m also suspecting a lot of the talk about “upscaled to 4k only” or the comments about rendering power are not really that informed – there are all sorts of tricks they could pull with a GPU that has what appears to be twice the power to get 1080p capable on the current PS4 to 2160p on the new one.
Yeah I would. My PS4 feels like it is getting tired and would love a shiny new one
No. And if it had exclusive titles (or titles weren’t optimised proper for the 4.0 model), it would stop me from buying PS5 too. Consoles have already lost the just plug and play benefits they had over PC (updates are so frequent), having to update your console would be the final nail in the coffin. Might as well go PC connected to TV full time.
Yes sir, VR is the future, games will run better with PS4K.
yes!! im buying a psvr and would love the extra power
Our consoles are becoming like PC’s now with updates and downloads. The way I see it, if I’m happy to do all those, then yes, I don’t mind upgrading my console every 4 years or so. Hell, I upgrade my phone, tablets and laptops every 3-5 years, so why not a console also?
I’ll buy one if my current PS4 dies. Otherwise no point.
Also, I’ve had my phone for 4 years. 😛
I don’t own a PS4 and I’m interested in VR.
My options are to upgrade PC and buy an occulus or vive… total cost will be a touch under or over 2k…. or I can buy the latest PS4 with similar quality VR for 1k.
VR-wise I’ve tried a Vive and absolutely love the room scale stuff but I wouldn’t shell out 2k for a setup today because there’s no content. I’m not willing to be drip fed content at that price point so the thought of picking up a ps4 to play some first party games and get some decent VR in at half the cost is very appealing. I’ll be going the PC route for gen 2 for sure.
I’m also hoping people will hax windows to run morpheus, and if that happens then I’ll truly be happy to play some PC games and run through some VR experiences as well.
I’d be super cautious after the PS Move fiasco, among other things. Sony talks a big game, but they’re have a pretty poor history of supporting hardware that doesn’t catch on.
No. I can’t justify the cost when I have a perfectly good PS4 right now. I use mine almost exclusively now, I only own a PS4 and a 3DS and I haven’t updated by 3DS to the “New” 3DS.
I am interested in games, not 4k, not VR just games and as long as they work on my devices I don’t see the need.
You’re asking us to make a decision about something we still have little knowledge on. It would be an easier choice if we knew what it did and and how much it cost.
Have they fixed the god-awful buttons and the disc eject issues from the PS4 crapbox???
Have been fucked around by Sony with my unit even though I raised it with them within a year of purchase…
Yes. The newer models have an actual push button on the outside instead of the touch sensor with internal button mechanism majigger.
You can just remove the hdd cover and fiddle with the screw inside and it will be right as rain … for a couple weeks.
Nah the PS5 will be out in 6 years time… I can wait.
Yes, all the way.
Yes, but only because i do not have one yet – as the previously generations with Sony and MS set the precedent for console upgrades even if they were only HDD upgrades.
i still have a collection of Wii (20) and PS3 games (8-15) and a collection of Steam games (∞)
i do have a collection of PS4 Games (20) i got relatively cheap waiting for the day i buy one in probably 2 or 3 years hopefully we have a 2tb or more HDD by then
I bought a ps3 in 2012 and i had been amassing PS3 games since 2010
because i borrowed a PS2 from an acquaintance played God of war, Prince of persia trilogy and a few others then i decided i wanted to own the HD release and it began from there i had about 40 – 50 ps3 by the time i purchased it.
though i do have 4 WiiU Games (Super smash Bros, Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta Bundle, Alongside the 4 main Zelda Amiibo’s and a Mewtwo one) that were purchase as cheap as i could buy them.
may purchase the Zelda Releases if Slyward Sword is added to the lineup and they release them as a bundle with a box like the Bayonetta Bundle
waiting on Proper NX reveal and a price i want to pay and i am cautious on it’s games as depending on what the NX is i don’t want too many games that could get updated Rerelease or Dual Gen Releases.
Though nintendo has as far as i know only done the dual gen release once with Twilight Princess
i have adopted a Games First, Console Later Mantra
If it supports UHD blu-rays, yep. Otherwise, nope, my PS3 does everything I’d want a PS4.5 to do…
I.e. not play modern games, cool.
I have a computer for that…
I wouldn’t if it was an outright purchase (I only picked up the 1TB PS4 last October)… However if there was an upgrade path or a reasonable trade up offer, it would become a very enticing option (BTW, the VR benefits of a PS4.5 far outweigh the 4K ones IMO)
Just got my PS4 two months ago and I barely use it. I don’t have a 4K TV. Even if this thing will go proper 4K, which people seem to doubt, I don’t have any use for it.
Pass.
This is what I’m pissed off about. I wanted to pick up a PS4 for Uncharted 4. Haven’t had a reason to get one before this game. Now there are rumours of an upgraded model. Do I wait? If I purchase a PS4 now will there be a price drop in 4 months when the 4.5 comes out?
Would I buy it? Yeah, probably. But I’m also used to the bi-yearly upgrade cycle with PC gaming. Most of my friends are on PS4, so I’ll stick with it – and prettier graphics/higher frame rates are always nice.
However, I think if Sony did this, it’d be an incredibly hard sell to gamers that have traditionally been console only. One of the dis/advantages (depending on how you look at it) is that consoles are plug and play for the duration of their life cycle – which is usually far lengthier than the normal PC GPU upgrade cycle.
Buy game, put disc in and expect it to work every time. Everyone gets the same experience, graphics, FPS etc.
To turn that on its head and ask those same gamers to shell out another $500+ two years after they bought their PS4 is going to be a tough sell.
If the PS4 drops in price I might pick one of those up, going off of the speculation I don’t really see the point of the 4.5.
Lol, new PS4 isnt gonna be playing games in 4k.
no, unfortunately its not that buying a new playstation more often is a good idea, its that dropping a grand on a new phone every 2 years is a terrible idea, and I’m amazed at how they’ve managed to trick the masses into doing it.
Sony is releasing an upgraded ps4 because the ps4 sales have started decreasing regardless it still selling alot per month, sony is greedy and because the ps4 is underpowered in the eyes of devs. Most of us normal gamers will be fine if the ps4 is the same until the generation ends. Only the fanboys care about resolution. Rather have 60fps anyday.But even some like me will be tempted to pick up a ps4.5 because i feel like the ps4 will feel obsolete. In ways like the devs will put most of their resources on the ps4.5, games might run less better on the ps4 and we’ll i do own a 4k tv.
If I didn’t have one, sure. I do though, so not unless there’s a compelling reason.
Already have a working PS4…no point in getting PS4K….unless I have money trees growing in my backyard lol
Yea it may be a little more powerful but eh, who cares…my PC isnt top of the range either, but games still run great, as do PS4 games
I will. I recently upgraded my TV so I have a 4K display and will be able to get the most out of the new system. I also think it’ll do much better for PSVR stuff.
Uncharted 4 was a pretty solid argument against needing faster PS4 hardware though.
I’m actually planning to play Uncharted 4 again when I get my hands on one of these.
I like cheese
Release an updated Gran Turismo with it and they’ll sell squillions
Recently bought a 4K TV, so I was looking forward for a console to go with it. Plus I spend most my gaming time on the PS4, and that was a really great investment. I would gladly pay a reasonable price for an improvement to that.
I dont know why there is alot of negativity about a new or upgrade piece of kit. I am sure there is alot of people out there that buy the newest phones outright once every single year.
only if there is an upgrade path.(reduced price swap etc.) not a another direct purchase
Nope..but hoping to get a relatively new 2nd hand ps4 when it ships 🙂