@blacksamurai87: I actually can't get into using the MM, got it with my new iMac at work and was back on my Microsoft Wireless Desktop Set within two weeks. Too bad it can't option-boot me into the disk loader, I keep the slim as hell Apple Keyboard in the desk drawer for the once or twice every few months I need to do that (to boot Windows).

I did like the Apple Pro Mouse and almost every one they've ever done before the Mighty Mouse (I even thought the "Hockey Puck" from the original iMac was fine, if not the best), I just don't like its indeterminate nature. I've been using Mac's and PCs with single and dual button mice for years, and I can switch from using cntrl-click to right-click fairly easily, but the Mighty Mouse feels like a single button and works like a dual button device. It confuses my poor hand :(

Glad it works for you though.

@telekinesis: You forget that many of us in the graphics/art/3D design fields use Mac, and have sick Pro rigs at work that we like to play FPS and RTS games on when we're done working. We're the reason they keep doing UT, Quake, Starcraft/Warcraft etc, those games come out every time a few months after the PC version (except Blizzard, who does them simultaneous) because we keep buying them.

DaiMacculate

@Dresarius: Um, you're an idiot. I've been playing CoD1 for Mac from Aspyr for years and there is no such "Mac-only" multiplayer.
@telekinesis: I know. The only reason I haven't is because I'm still on an old PowerBook. I'm going to be picking up a MacBook Pro soon, I think.
@blacksamurai87: You're not a tard. I think the Mighty Mouse is shit, the two "buttons" never react properly, and the mousewheel is inaccurate, and it feels bad, but my tard comment was directed at the person who thinks Mac users have one button mice.

shwoosh

i'll care when i can get steam on my mac.

nevergod

@shwoosh: I love my Mighty Mouse. I've used many others and I personally find it to be the best of them all. Guess I'm a tard, then.

blacksamurai87

@shwoosh:

given everything you said about the Mac and Gaming, I'm surprised you don't dual boot and buy PC games.

telekinesis

@fuchikoma:

Agreed. Aspyr Media is an absolutely awful studio. All of their 'conversions to mac' games don't play with their pc cousins. Meaning. You can have a great time playing multiplayer with the 19 other people who bought the mac version instead of just running it in bootcamp.

Dresarius

Doesn't even matter. The damage has already been done to Mac and Gaming many years ago. No one is going to think "Wow, COD4 on Mac, I'm gonna go buy a Mac" and those with Macs didn't buy them for games. The less-than-casual-gamer that Mac users are known for will probably not pick up a title like this anyway.

telekinesis

I'm a long time Mac gamer and yeah, the games that come out are limited, but due to efforts of Aspyr, and to a lesser extent, MacSoft, we do exist and we do have some games to play. I just now got through playing some CoD1, actually. I've just never been a PC guy, though I am a huge fan of PC games (go figure).

To whoever was talking about mice, you are a retard, I've never met anyone stupid enough to use an Apple mouse. The Mighty Mouse, while "2 button", is also a piece of siht, just like every other Apple mouse.

As for why it would be released on Mac when we can dual boot Windows, I'd say at this point not that many of Mac users are dual-booting, either from not wanting to bother, or not having a Windows install, or whatever.

For the record, CoD 1 and 2 both came out on Mac through Aspyr so this really doesn't come as a surprise. I only hope that Aspyr stays on the ball with updates, which they haven't done in the past.

shwoosh

Woo hoo i can play something besides warcraft now.

Hopefully they will the titles coming.

Chip

There still not enough support as a gaming platform. Not to mention one of the key elements of a PC, the ease at which you can upgrade it to where you want it to be. A MAC gaming platform to me reminds me more of a console.

Flawless101

Good for Mac users, everyone should be able to enjoy this tasty game!

Too bad as a platform, it isnt too viable.

Ironic though, that it took PC parts Macs now, to get games.

EnigmaNemesis

@greeble: Ah, much thanks. I've heard horror stories from others, and I consequently haven't touched the card on my Pro.

JustThisGuy

@NPlace: @Archaotic: Yes you both deserve to die how dare you not like/own a game I like/own. Its unthinkable. Unforgivable even.

Deadeyereborn

What problems are PC gamers having with it?

@teh_joe: I have the SR mbp and I can play the game just fine.

Still it will be interesting how the game plays native on the mac.

Here is a question: Since I already own the PC version (bought it on day 1), can I pirate the mac version?

balls187

@Saxboy: It senses where you are clicking, So it's actually like having three buttons.

Raven9

@RRRansom: I will be one of those 10.

lukejf01

as a Mac user it doesn't overally concern me if there are/aren't games for it. It is cool, however, that a game like COD4 will be coming to Mac because I don't have a PC or PS3/360 so if I wanted to play it I now can.

teh_joe

Its about time macs got some love.

Streeks1984

@firesign:
Ok granted "some". I said 'most' because all of the people I know who own a Mac dual boot.

So as a Mac user do you even care if games come out for the Mac or not?

SithNinja

@JustThisGuy: I think you just need to find out if there are Mac drivers for your card. You are probably thinking about the old days where the Endianess (byte order) was different on the macs. You couldn't just use the same cards. (Though you could on some if you flashed the firmware on the card. I did this when I was given a G3 without a video card.)

greeble

@SithNinja: you should change "most" to "some". the majority of mac owners i would venture to say do *not* have windows on their machines. i am part of the "some" because i need it for some stuff at work, otherwise i wouldn't bother.

firesign

1) Yes, Mac owners can also be gamers, this is not mutually exclusive.
2) As my Mac was a gift and not my own purchase I may be what you could call a 'PC' wannabe, I use no Mac products other than the G5 tower itself and Mac does support most 3rd party components.
3) It seems, however, that Aspyr and Mac have given up supporting the PowerPC structure instead opting to design specifically to Intel chipsets. That being said, my Mac continues to be a WoW box and little else...

art_zombie

@Saxboy: they have. the recent "mighty mouse" can be enabled to use both a left and right button.

firesign

Perhaps someone can help me out here. I was under the impression that the Mac towers needed very specific graphics cards in order to upgrade (i.e., I can't just pick up an 8800 GT; I need one that specifically says it will work on Macs). Am I right or wrong?

JustThisGuy

Remember... Aspyr are the guys who did the bug-plagued PC port of GH3 that takes a Crysis rig to play.
Don't want to rain on your parade, but... be cautious!

fuchikoma

@thegetupkid:
Sorry, I didn't realise that you were one of the 10 people who were going to buy this game on Mac. Calm down, breathe.... no one is insulting you.... just relax and think happy thoughts about your iPod.... my point was that historicaly Mac People (meaning people who use ONLY Macs, sorry if I wasn't clear about the reference earlier) don't buy enough games to even warrant making them in the first place. How many games are coming to Mac ONLY this year? How many last year? Oh yeah that's right NONE! And considering the fact that most Mac owners also run XP or some version of windows also, there is even LESS reason for a Mac version.

SithNinja

@Saxboy: or you know, you can just hook up a regular most...

djpaec

WRONG. Infinity Ward had the Killcam since Call of Duty the first.

They did not create it in Call of Duty 2. They used it again, because it's nifty and often useful.

It just bothers me. Like, a stab through the heart of history.

As in, give the original the credit it's due. Jeez.

Xiatter

I still have alot of reasons left to not buy a mac...

shinny21

@Saxboy: that "one button" has both left and right clicking. i'm sure it's fine.

teh_joe

@Archaotic: Stupidity strikes me again! Ignore last sentence.

MasterOfPastures

@Archaotic: Nah... multiplayer is great though. A shame that the leveling system is only intended for hard-core players... Im more casual when it comes to MP. Singleplayer is my home.
UT3 is said to also appear on Mac, right?

MasterOfPastures

@thegetupkid:
I love using my Logitech MX518. I bought it originally for WoW, but when the Mac version of UT3 hits, I'm gonna get on that so I have my own copy of UnrealEd.

Archaotic

Wow, it will only take until May for them to fix the multiplayer problems? Great to know that while I spend 30 minutes just to get into a game (because you can't choose to host and you can connect to several servers in a row right before they quit) on a "final" version of CoD4 they are busy working on playlist updates and other versions of the game.

When they said "after December" for the update I seriously thought January or February, but May? Seriously, fix your fucking game. Let me say I love the game and that's why I'm so pissed it doesn't work that well.

Player2

@Stormrider900:
I've played multiplayer a few times (beta tester, yo), and my neighbor played the entire campaign on my 360 before I moved. I've seen it all, it's alright...

I'm just not a big fan of realistic FPS games, so I doubt I'd get much use out of it, especially with DMC4, Brawl, and Lost Odyssey on the horizon.

Archaotic

@Archaotic: Eh, I actually don't think it's that incredible. I mean, I like it, but I enjoyed TF2 more to be honest. But I'm not a huge multiplayer FPS guy, so I am not really the target demographic for the game.

Stormrider900

@BornToFlail: Me too, but as a Mac owner, if I don't have to boot into Windows and can play easily from the Mac side, I'd rather own the Mac version. I'm guessing this holds true for other Mac owners/gamers as well.

nintend0nick

@SithNinja:

"Mac people?"

Yes we play games, that is the dumbest question ever. And to who said something about the mouse, guess what? Macs have USB ports. We can use whatever mice we want.

thegetupkid

@Deadeyereborn:
Ironically, I have a PS3, a 360, a MacBook Pro, and a Windows XP install ON said MacBook Pro, and I don't have the game.

Does that mean I don't deserve to live? :O

Archaotic

I thought this mac gaming business was dropped when people could run boot camp and play ANY PC game through windows on their mac?

BornToFlail

@Erwin211: MacWorld Expo today, all the third parties are announcing what they're doing for the new systems.

BornToFlail

The last game I played on a Mac was Ultima 4 on my Apple 2C. I still have fond memories of those days.

null_unit

@Saxboy:

Yeah, you've been out of it for a few years. The Mighty Mouse has both a left and right click and a scroll ball that can be clicked as well plus the ability to scroll horizontally and vertically. There are also some buttons on the side of the mouse that could be customized.

I can see how you'd still think it was still just one button though as a lot of it is pressure sensitive.

shipwreck

@Rectangle: Apple pretty much says anyone without a newer intel mac is shit out of luck when it comes to decent games.

slungsolow

Heyhey! Mac users finally get an alternative to World of Warcraft.

bluecell

@Rectangle: You can upgrade the GPUs of Mac Towers, just not the AIO machines like iMacs and Minis. The new Mac Pro has an 8800GTS BTO option.

Mac Gamers are still here, we've just been getting our game on with other platforms. Give us the right titles and you'll make money, otherwise Aspyr would have disappeared long ago.

DaiMacculate

@Deadeyereborn: Hmm... I hope I don't deserve the death sentence because I got bored with single-player after the sniper mission.

NPlace

A good start atleast, better not be the last gaming related news for the Mac though.

Irenicus-the one and only

Ah, COD 4..is there anything you cant do?

Skitzoap

@Nintenboy01: Probably not, as it won't be universal Binary. I think StarCraft II is probably the last major game that _might_ end up being UB.

DaiMacculate

Would most even Macs be able to run the game? Their graphics chips aren't all that powerful, and you can't replace them.

Rectangle

@Komrade_Kayce:

COD3? What's that?

And Mac's have chased away the gamer crowd in the past...whose around that would buy this?

Jomo7

I'm buying this game, no question. I don't have it yet for PC or 360, and I'll probably have a more powerful Mac by middle/end of the year so the timing is perfect!

DaiMacculate

Will this still run on my 1.25 GHz eMac?

Nintenboy01

@heliophage:
"fight real people in Iraq"

Damn, that is messed up!

DigitalHero

@heliophage:

"Her" being his mom, my aunt. I r gud at prufreeding.

heliophage

What,s up with bootcamp? with it you can run vista so logically you should already be able to play it... AiiGHT!!?!

amzo

Sigh... Mac will grow, and regain its former position while taking over the market again, and we will have to wait until the death of Jobs for it to crash and burn into nothingness...
Wake me up when VALVe is an exclusive Apple developer...

MasterOfPastures

Do Mac people even play games??

SithNinja

Speaking of deep and hard, my boot has been craving such action.

I saw my cousin a few weeks ago and asked him what he got for Christmas. He told me that he really wanted Call of Duty 4, but that the guy at GameStop told her not to get it because you "fight real people in Iraq".

I hate stupid people.

heliophage

If you have a system that can run COD4 and dont have it you dont deserve to live. That being said on a Mac? really? who do they think is going to buy this?

Deadeyereborn

What's up with the sudden Mac Love?

Erwin211

eI still laugh at veryone deliberately pretending COD 3 never happened. Poor Treyarch, haha.

Komrade_Kayce

Also, unless Apple has changed their mice (which is entirely possible, since I haven't looked at once in a few years), you'll probably need one with more than one button.

Saxboy

Everyone gets to play this awesome game. The downside, 10 copies will be sold.

DigitalHero

Thinking different is deep and hard bitch.

RRRansom

@Zeag: We'll have to see, UT3 runs ok on my iMac (the 2.8Ghz flavor, so higher end), comparable to my PC that has a 7950GT (512MB) at the same resolution with just one step lower LOD. Its certainly not built to smash framerate barriers, but its respectable for a machine not designed for the task. I was really, really pissed that they went with the ATI 2600 Pro or whatnot, could have put something a bit beefier in but then the computer would have been an inch or two thicker, instead of a looking like just a nice 24-inch LD monitor.

Thats why I have my PC, its a stopgap measure until next year when I can buy a Pro. Thats the thing though; I have to justify it as a work computer for freelance stuff, not as a gaming rig, because it will cost more. But damn will those dual Quad Cores (or whatever it has next year) will eat my high res graphic work in Photoshop for lunch....and they'll probably play a game or two, before I'm done with it. Mostly Starcraft 2.

DaiMacculate

@Dresarius: Awful because they make games for Mac and not cross platform PC to Mac monsters?

Just for the record COD2 and Quake 4 are both cross platform. If fact most of their games are.

Randall

ive already got it for bootcamp/pc why buy it again?

smeee

I can already tell you that only the new PowerMac will be able to run this game at full settings. Even the highest-end iMac will suffer at high resolutions.

Mac aren't for gaming, not because they're not able to do. But because it's not a lucrative market for Apple, because they'd have to deal with the "need to upgrade my machine" trend that comes with most PC gamers.

And Macs aren't made to be really upgraded.

Zeag

heh, my *gut feeling

DaiMacculate

@balls187: I've been wondering about that with UT3, same situation. I don't think its too big a deal, why should you pay again to play your game on another OS on the same machine?

That's just my guy feeling, I'm sure the legal answer is that you should pay the $50, if for no other reason than to help cover the cost of the Mac port :)

DaiMacculate

We mac users don't duel boot on a mac, because most of us bought macs to avoid our computers being screwed up with problems from windows. Not worth the risk in my opinion. I know way more people who will be buying spore and COD4 since the majority of the people are gamers with a Mac.

Chip

@shwoosh: Sorry. I've been playing Civilization, Generals, Homeworld 2. None of these games will play with their pc counter parts. All of them have been 'converted' by Aspyr.

Dresarius

You know, if Live is still messed up and CoD4 can run clean and smooth on my MacBook Pro when it comes out, you can bet I'll be picking it up. I'll probably sell my 360 shortly after. The only question is if my MBP is going to run the game. It SHOULD meet the specs... :S

TheBrianIsAstonishing

@Saxboy:
they have its called the mighty mouse. It works pretty well actually but might not handle the endless rapid clicking required for fps. But you can use pretty much any 3rd party mouse you want

Weasel3689

Oh, and just to comment on the Mighty Mouse...that peripheral just drives me crazy. It is by far my favorite mouse aesthetically but it just sucks as a mouse. If I ever own an iMac for my family's general use I'll probably use one for that, but I would never use it for gaming. My cheapo Logitech portable wired mouse works better than it does on any occasion.

FeendRendor

I already have COD4 on my Steam account but will probably go ahead and buy this anyway just to support the idea of gaming on Macs. I certainly don't hate PCs, Windows, or PC gaming, but not having to swap over to XP via Boot Camp or another Parallel type program would be extremely handy. Also, Spore is definitely going to be found on this Macbook Pro as soon as it comes out. Well....okay, so with the likelihood of it being delayed yet again, I might be playing it on whatever my NEXT Mac system is. Maybe a Macbook Air? (too bad it looks pretty underpowered...heh).

FeendRendor

dont be fooled, folks! gaming on the mac? its really a conspiracy to kill gaming on linux (where there is HUGE potential). dont believe me? too bad cuz im right! linux gaming community > mac gaming community (no such thing as a mac gaming COMMUNITY). linux gamers have for years asked and clamoured for commercial games but companies spend dollars for mac dev? wtf?

theovercoatthatsgogol

@theovercoatthatsgogol: Thats just silly. They don't develop for Linux because MS hates Linux (calls it Communistic!), and PC game companies basically live and die at the sufferance of MS because they control DX10. MS makes money on Macs by selling people Office 2008, plus they recognize that some of the best features they've put into Windows UI over the years are based on if not directly copying the Mac. The same has happened in reverse, its what competitors do, they take the best things the other guy does, put their twist on it so its not too obvious, and incorporate it.

Also, these games are mostly being powered by translation engines, not unlike WINE, so I don't see how Linux is any more hobbled than it ever has been in its ability to utilize the same technology. Don't you all run games in WINE anymore? I've only used it as a server OS, I've never played a game with Linux, so I'm sincerely asking.

DaiMacculate

I'm excited for this. I'll definitely be picking it up for Mac. I STILL haven't picked up a 360, so I'll probably just get it for my new mac.

It's funny reading a lot of the comments and seeing how completely ignorant so many still are in regards to the mac platform.

Just as a sidenote, working in the creative industry and knowing tons of other similarly employed people means I'm acquainted with a ton of mac users. And these people are very much gamers and early adopters into technology. They may not be gaming a whole lot on their macs, but they're certainly above average in console gaming. They own multiple consoles, play online multiplayer etc.

eponym

@Saxboy: Yes the mac mouse is cack, but every1 just uses a pc left and right click mouse, which work on macs exactly the same

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