@ShinyNew: It's actually happened a few times, believe it or not.

I know, right?

wallapuctus

@deathbunny:
"M:N best game ever."

Now why'd you have to go and put Starz in Their Eyez? It's the same old story, they just didn't realize.

I take it that a flawed execution of an idea is what makes it so appealing. Maybe like that old 80s ET game?
The game is horrible. Not that it's a "hidden gem" but most people agree the quality fits with the title.

Plan303e

Even though Mar-Vell did die of cancer, he got his ass thrown through time, so he's now 'back', running around the Marvel Universe again. Imagine! A hero dies..and then comes back in some bullshit fashion! Surely that's a first in comics!

ShinyNew

Everyone start spamming Capcom's community forums asking for MVC3!

Namrepus

I was a software engineer on this project, and I am one of the EA Chicago refugees. Had we had enough time to finish the game, it was going to be pretty unique (and, dare I say, fun). Toe to toe fighting with all the iconic powers from each of the characters with every single piece of geometry in the environment destructible. Not just some destruction. Everything. We had mini-games already built where you got $ for destroying things and each player had two minutes to rack up the most $.

One of our favorite things to do while testing was to pile all of the taxicabs and cars into the bank and then toss gas canisters at them until they exploded, taking out the entire bank in one shot.

Alas, it will only live on in the memories of those that worked on it.

synchronicity

Come on Capcom get the Marvel license back and bring us Marvel Vs Capcom 3!!

Fstrike

How about we all pitch in a couple bucks and buy back the license for Capcom. I'm DYING for a new MvC game.

anothergamer

@CreamSodaSlurpee: Lonely

@jinpei05: Oh god, that's the *other* nail in my brain.

Marvel Alliance; lets take *everything* cool about superheroes, and then ruin it by forcing it into the mindless dark alliance structure. I mean seriously... limited teleports for Nightcrawler? Limited flight time? Why was the license even involved? They could have made it a LOTRO game. If they haven't. They might have.

And then there's the claims of how many characters were involved. You know... classics like 'rhino guy' and 'guy with lightning powers'. Not to mention the fact that, at least, in MvC, all those characters were basically playable. For years, Marvel has had a gimmick of saying their games are 'full of their great characters', but most of them were unplayable. Is it that exciting to fight venom? Not really. Playing him is interesting.

M:N best game ever. Balance is for people who are still young and bright-eyed in their gaming career, and want to lose in a fair fight. I mean seriously. Playing halo with skulls isn't balanced--that doesn't mean it isn't *fun* (assuming you can choose which to turn on, which you can). Why should you be able to play every single character in a game and expect the same level of performance? You *can't* anyway. It's a more interesting game that makes a real effort to include those imbalances deliberately, and create a spectrum of match-ups that let you challenge yourself through choice.

The hit-detection thing... I don't know what that means. I don't remember a hit detection problem. I remember sometimes getting crushed by a truck. So maybe that's what you mean?

deathbunny

@ArmyofJuan: if they got the license back. MS would have to give them a big exception on the XBLA bandwidth limit or it being one of it's 'remake' titles' that you pay 10 bucks for (which I'd do in a heart beat)

MvC3 without overpowered juggling would be game of the year on hype alone. The Supersmashbros of forgotten time...

Huginn

Or how about Mercenaries 3: Marvel Edition?

TrettOff

OK this is what you do Give Capcom the license so they can make MvC3.

But make sure that they do it in 2-D not in 3D and there we have it best fighting game ever(well only if its better then MvC2)

Ruisu

Maybe Marvel should just stick to movies

Or like every... sane poster who mentioned Marvel, Capcom, and EA, they should've stuck with Capcom.
People still play MvC2 in arcades like crazy. I can't see games like Imperfects worth a quarter play.

Maybe Capcom can do a 3D Marvel fighting game right, if SFIV takes off.

And maybe bring back Onslaught?
Because Abyss as a final boss was insulting and not even related, Marvel's Onslaught Reborn was a disappointment, and Apocalypse did appear twice in the VS series.

Plan303e

Even if Marvel Nemesis wasn't a good game we could always say that the franchise could only get better. They had to make improvements for sure, I really doubt that they would leave the problems that everyone has complained about.

I don't think that this news is a reason to celebrate, as it doesn't mean that anyone else is going to start working on a game with Marvel characters on it, instead we are going to have to wait longer until the next game comes out. I hope it is Marvel UA 2!

Masterpain22

Was the entire deal cancelled or just the fighting game? After all, EA now owns Bioware so imagine the possibilities of a Bioware-made Marvel RPG or MMO.

TrettOff

Who will stop the imperfects?!?!?!?!

TaggarT6

I just want Ultimate Alliance 2 dammit. Something built from the ground up *for* 360/PS3... instead of being an enhanced port. (although even with the port, fire was very pretty in that game. The palette for Mephisto's realm got old though). What's with levels where red is the dominating factor and making everything look like it was built on a SNES? (Yes Oblivion, I'm looking at *YOU*!).

MrBionic

@Pai Pai Master:

Agreed. I want my Marvel vs. Capcom 3 dammit.

Phlycheez

You know what would be cool? If Capcom did a DC Superheroes game in the same style as Marvel vs. Capcom.

*fingers crossed*

jinpei05

Do we have to have a Marvel fighting game? I mean a Marvel vs. Capcom 3 would be sweet but i want something like Captain America and the Avengers.

Atleast a XBLA release or something. That game is like one of the few games (out of like 2?) that made playing as hawkeye cool.

ArmyofJuan

I remember MvC2. I abused Cable's abilities to no end...

blackadvent

@NukaCola:

MvC3 would be amazing, as would an XBLA version of MvC2. Ooh, or MvC2 HD.

Strangelove

Lets hope for a new capcom/marvel crossover with some new characters (HI DANTE).

Nydrin

THEY'RE ALL SKRULLS, I TELLS YA

Solidius

I'm glad. Def Jam was pretty bad, and the Hulk looked clinically depressed.

Garro

Ah, the Death of Captain Marvel...how fitting.

rapsodist

I never played EA's Marvel fighty-thinga-majooger; frankly I didn't want to. I did play a crap-ton of capcom marvel cross-overs though, and if the license were sold back to capcom, I can say without a doubt I'd buy another one. But thats just some fancy dreamin'.

Note to EA: More original IP's; less crappy sequels.
Note to people buying crappy sequels: Stop doing that.

giantmonkeydeathlord

@Balmung576: I only recall seeing a pre-rendered trailer. Can you point to a playable video?

McWhertor

Nemesis was pretty bad. Ultimate Alliance was pretty good. Spider-Man 2 was great. It doesn't matter if it has the Marvel liscense or not, a good game is a good game. X-Men Legends used the characters in a great gauntlet-style setting with true-to-the-M Universe plots but Nemesis just pulled that story out of their asses. It was pretty awful. Also, Spider-Man Friend or Foe was a pretty terrible waste of the Marvel liscense.

I'll be interested to see how the Iron Man game turns out. It looks like it might play somewhere between Hulk: Ultimate Destruction and the recent Superman game.

Good use of the death of Mar-Vel art. You could've used the death of Capt. America, but you didn't. That's a bold choice.

jMonken

@Deathbunny: EA is the studio that conceived this travesty of a game, and while many of the games in their stable are quite good, THIS was not one of them. The hit detection sucked, the characters were completely unbalanced, the AI was horribly buggy, and the EA characters were just plain stupid.

And while Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was one step away from causing an epileptic seizure, the game was leaps and bounds better than Marvel Nemesis, both in gameplay and character design.

jinpei05

@deathbunny: What's it like being in the minority?

CreamSodaSlurpee

This game was shown in playable form on gamehead on Spike. It looked good honestly. Look it up, destruction was grand. Destroy a building wall, then go fight in the building you destroyed, looked fun to me.

Balmung576

Unless it was titled Marvel vs Capcom 3...

DID NOT WANT!!! So I don't care if this game is gone. Did anyone else?

jive238

Capcom should get the license back. I want Marvel vs. Capcom back on consoles.

Digitalguardian 3: Return of the Jedi King's Machine at World's End

Poor Captain Marvel... To think it was cancer that ended up felling him... Alas, Mar-Vell, we miss you! (And don't give me any of that guardian of the Negative Zone prison stuff... that is silliness!)

gramblor

Capcom endlessly reiterated a formula of play whereby nobody who's new to the genre could possibly get in edgewise. Who has the time or interest, who doesn't already know, to learn that Sentinel has an infinite combo, or whatever?

EA made a game that had all the creativity and give and take of Smash, with even *better* interaction with the environment, and they got blasted for it. Yes, *clearly* the goal here is to see M v C 14 that includes all marvel characters from 3 different alternate realities, including the age of apocalypse up against the Mega Twins and Zack and Wiki, or whatever nightmarish nonsense. I'm *so* looking forward to the 10 hit lawn-mower Dead Rising character's combo.

My absolute favorite part about M:N was that there was actually a point to having a brain while you play--not just learning wrote reactions. Wolverine vs, say, Magneto made for an interesting *challenge*. Balance doesn't have to be equal in every last possible case. *sigh*

This is awful. The studio that made M:N was genius.

deathbunny

@spiderweb1986: no to New Jersey..

godlyzombie

Fuck yeah, Marvel go back with Capcom. Marvel V.S. Capcom 3 baby!

NukaCola

@godlyzombie: To a Planet Hulk, perhaps?

On another note entirely, The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction was a fantastic game, especially once it dropped in price. I know EA didn't make it, but that's a good example of how to use a Marvel license the right way.

spiderweb1986

@deathbunny: Great idea. What could possibly go wrong?

HyperWrench

Bad McWhertor!

Don't blast them for trying. They may make one good game eventually under a Marvel IP.

okenny :)

I agree! Capcom has the skills to properly use the Marvel Licence

Sinnbox

I didn't get the logic behind Marvel Universe Online - the license had a lot of potential, but it'd basically be City of Heroes with Spider-Man and Wolverine, judging from everything I've read about it. If it vanishes, that's not a huge loss.

@Pai Pai Master: Exactly!

spiderweb1986

ill conceived?! ILL CONCEIVED?!?!?! IT's the *best* fighting game ever MADE. God GOD *WHY* am I trapped on earth with insane people?! My life is the twilight zone.

deathbunny

i blame the Hulk.. lets shoot him into space..

godlyzombie

Good riddance. The first game was ass, anyway.

If Marvel was smart, they would've stuck with Capcom and continued the Vs. Series, instead of putting their characters into such a shitty game.

jinpei05

No, they should give the damn license back to Capcom.

Pai Pai Master

This is actually good news.

Winterbringer

@jsf49: Here's a semi-recent article on the DC game... looks like it's still on. They probably put something out just to let ppl know it's still being worked on.

[www.next-gen.biz]

Firefly

best news ever.....now give the license to capcom or namco or snk anyone except EA.

resetbutton

I want to rock my Mango Sentinel and curly mustache... PRINGLES, BABY!

innegable3

Hey, Marvel Universe Online is being made by Cryptic, the people behind the only other successful superhero MMO- City of Heroes, which is actually really good and very different from all the WoW clones flooding the market.

Bring back Marvel vs Capcom. Or Marvel vs Nintendo, I'd pay to see that.

I wonder how the Iron Man game is coming along? I know, movie tie-in, but Sega's pretty good at anything other than Sonic.

Sabre_Justice

Marvel comic beat 'em ups should be left alone unless Capcom's helming them. They were the only developers who took the Marvel universe and created a bunch of solid beat 'em ups with it. I still love me some Children of the atom, even though that game is f**king difficult.

Random J

i think they should work out a deal with capcom to issue collections of the marvel fighters dating back to x-men: children of the atom with online play. and i would really like it if they gave the american version of msh vs. sf norimaro. i always liked playing as that guy. hyper miracle treasure 4 life.

thaKingRocka

Ah, "The Death of Captain Marvel" by Starlin. How poignant. That takes me back.

Cad06

I'm going to file this story in my "No shit sherlock" folder.

Sollus

Leaving Capcom for EA, and then attempting to make a fighting game is like cutting off your dick before getting into the porn business. I can't imagine why it didn't work out.

Gouki4u

Man.. I remember the 30 minute show of GAME HEAD that Geoff Keighley covered about the new MARVEL fighting game with Kudo.

It's funny it's cancelled for good.

HykCraft

Capcom needs this license back.
EA has provided us with dissappointment after dissappointment.

TheCleaningGuy

Isn't there also a DC Universe version of this game? What's happening with that? Is it still on or is it dead as well?

jsf49

Capcom please get the license back so you can put MvC on virtual consoles!!! I need Spiderman and Jill Valentine back together!

syp

Give it back to Capcom and make a new Marvel vs. Capcom game for all consoles.

KM91

talkeaton- Have you actually read a recent Marvel comic? It makes you wish the writer's strike extended to comics.

kidnicky

I'd like to see Capcom get the liscense back,or the DC rights for that matter,but not do a sequel to Mvs.C 2,since that was definately as good as it could have been. I'd rather see them do something like Power Stone.

kidnicky

Or, y'know, maybe Marvel should just stick to Comics.

It might work.

TalKeaton

@deathbunny: Marvel characters fighting against a bunch of EA-created originals couldn't be more ill-conceived, in my opinion.

McWhertor

The idea of this game really did sound fantastic, and I was very much looking foward to it. Here is a youtube video of the game in prerendered form that was cancelled.
Marvel Nemesis 2
Again the idea for the game sounded great, and I wish they at least had some game footage posted up before they cancelled it.

yjaved1

Is Capcom allowed to re-release the old MvC games? It would be sweet for XBLA, PSN, Wii Ware or even DS or PSP. If they did it in HD it would be amazing.

Superstar90 lieks mudkipz

deathbunny has had the most logical comment yet to this. All you people wanting capcom back on the Marval IP need to get off your horse. I don't want Street Fighter with Marval characters shoe horned in to it. I want what EAC was making!

ParadoxControl

It just feels so wrong to be happy about a game being cancelled, yet here it is ;)

No more Capcom or in fact any ill-conceived Marvel 2-D fighters though please, one MVC2 per century is all that human civilization can handle.

DaiMacculate

Yes, I second that KARLOTT. Please just sign back up with Capcom and give us MVC3. The Capcom Marvel games are the only games that did any justice to the comics, so make it happen.

PITwelve

MVC3 pls thx.

Karlott

Maybe Marvel should just stick to movies

Actually, I daresay that Marvel still did pretty well off it even without a game. EA paid (through the nose, probably) to have exclusive rights to make fighting games based on Marvel characters, so Marvel will have made money anyway.

Spriggan

I thought the fighter looked pretty good on GameHead. I was looking forward to a next-gen arena fighter rather than another 3D fighting game that plays just like 2D ones.

LeChuck

The new EA fighter actually looked pretty cool (albeit a bit floaty). Kind of sad to see that one go since it means a LOG time will go by before a new one comes along.

Marvel Nemesis on the other hand was HORRIBLE. The Adventure mode was crappy, the characters were unbalanced, it only had something like 20 characters and yet HALF of them were EA created. Why make a Marvel licensed game if you're going to make up half of the roster?! Especially whn the created characters are rip-off of other Marvel characters (The teleporting guy could have been Nightcrawler, The electric guy - Electro, the fire guy - Human Torch, etc).

And then to top it off, they wasted actual Marvel character slots with characters like Elektra. Really?! Elektra? Not to mention most of the characters played identical to at least one other character. Venom, Spider-Man, and Daredevil ALL played practically the same with just minor tweaks to stats and moves.

MAN I hated that game.

Guitaratomik

NOTE: if you read my comment and don't know whay I am talking about please reference this clip : [www.youtube.com]

kumajoe

@innegable3: OH OH OH OH MAG-FUCKING-NETO! FUCK THE NICKS!

kumajoe

Hip, hip, HOORAY!

Hip, hip, HOORAY!

Coldbrand

You know what'd be fun. An Ultimates Squad Shooter. Yes!

riffleraffle

John Riccitiello is a Skrulll.

riffleraffle

It is too bad that so many people neglected to watch the Game Head episode about this game. They learned a lot of lessons from Nemesis and the new one looked pretty cool. Capcom screwed themselves over by making their games increasingly less accessible. I am a proud owner of MvC2, but I think that it is one of the worst fighting games that I own. It has a ton of characters, but the modes are lacking and good luck trying to get anyone to play it who isn't at a pro level. Capcom refused to update their graphics, relied too heavily on confusing combo systems and they paid the price by turning the dominant genre into a niche market.

I find it ironic that people say that EA just releases the same games year after year but gives Capcom a pass for their sad updates.

kingofallcosmos

FREE AT LAST

GhaleonUnlimited

@deathbunny: I wasn't even talking about Marvel Ultimate Alliance, so I don't know why you brought that up. If your going to refute a person's argument, make sure that you are attributing the right one to them.

And for the record, Ultimate Alliance was an average beat-em-up at best with little replay value.

And I'm sorry, but balance in fighting games is REALLY for people who don't want to get frustrated with over-powered god characters who employ cheap tactics to win and instead would rely on their own skill. I don't expect every character in a FIGHTING game to be carbon copies of each other, as that would be boring, but their move sets and priorities should balance each other out, as was accomplished in Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting over 15 years ago. Example: Zangief may seem to be outmatched by a fireball user like Ryu or Ken, but since his spinning clothes line can help him pass through projectiles, he can use it to get in close and attempt a spinning pile-driver.

Comparing a fighting game to a first person shooter is not a valid argument. I think that if you've gone through the single player campaign and want a different challenege, then turning on the skulls to varying difficulty is a great idea.

The hit detection problems mean that some characters' attacks wouldn't register when they struck the opponent and the distance between them would not be a factor in this.

@paradoxcontrol: Go ahead and enjoy your Marvel Nemesis with deathbunny. There's a reason that so many people are behind Capcom's vs. series more than Nemesis: IT'S A BETTER FIGHTING GAME. Do you see many people clammoring for Marvel Nemesis at EVO 2K? Guess you should ask them to add that game to the tournament this year.

jinpei05