the original starfox is an atari game man.

superjap

Ya gotta love the games they're choosing to demo these consoles with too...Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 2, Starfox, Dragon Warrior 4, and what appears to be a Kunio-kun title.

At least they know who their market is.

Nightshift_Nurse

For the record, the NEX is a pretty good system. I bought one and haven't been let down by it.

Looks like I may have to pick up one of these Retro Duos though. Very cool stuff.

Nightshift_Nurse

@kumuasata: eBay.

MCW07

@Eltigro: I'm just being a smartass. ;)

@Kirbytheslayer: See what I did there?: The Generation NEX can only play NES games, and it's just another NES-on-a-chip clone with a premium price.

HAGE

Actually I want one, Where can ibuy it?

kumuasata

@Mr.Waffleton:

Not only that, but they're bad clones. Bad mapper support, even with that last semi-official clone with the wireless controllers.

Kenzya

And jsut for reference while it says it plays Star Fox that doesn't mean other FX games will work

Mr.Waffleton

Also be warned many of these devices don't support the special chips like the Super FX

Mr.Waffleton

I remember seeing something like this at the LA County(Orange County? I don't know. Somewhere around there) fair.

It was called the Messiah Entertainment Generation Nex system, and it could play NES and SNES games.

These seem to me to be pretty commonplace.

Kirbytheslayer: See what I did there?

Why are these things at CES they've been around for years. Lik Sang even sold them as i recall if that tells you how long they've been out.

Mr.Waffleton

What's the difference between this and the FC twin?

syl1985

Sounds quite cool, but I'd prefer RGB output to s-video. Plus, I've still got my Super Famicom hooked up and you can't beat original hardware. ;)

PhotoBoy

@DigitalHero: see above post. i had once wanted the VC to digitally replace my old analog collection, but somewhere between DRM, pricing and loss of potential, ive been largely dissapointed.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

I'm actually considering getting a Sega double console. I've always loved Sega, and getting a dual emulator seems dumb when I could just get a SNES and play both on the original consoles.

Codexx

@suya123: where's the fun in that? ive still got several dozen SNES classics and a score of NES ones, paying an overpriced amount to re-buy them to be a) married to the console and b) not sure if theyre transfer to the next console, etc strikes me as silly.

a device like this sounds awesome to me, though that guy with an emulator box and 360 controller has the advantage of saving anywhere, anytime, in any game, and to me, the only retro gaming feature that'd beat that is if virtual console had been done right - achievements, leaderboards, online co-op (like Streets of Rage 2 got).

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

@HAGE: Perhaps further clarification is needed. I know that you can use a Genesis to play Master System games with the Power Base Converter. I was referring to the fact that Innex does not make a Genesis/Master System combo clone. Such a combo would be a direct analog to the SNES/NES they offer. But for some reason, they have a Genesis/NES system. The only reason I can guess is that they are looking at the popularity of the systems. Of the four, the SMS is probably the least popular (at least in the States), so a SMS clone would be less of a draw than a NES clone. Personally, I would want a Genesis/SMS combo clone.

Eltigro, hospital postin' fool

We have a system like this at my work, but its made by a different company. Its called the FC (famicom) twin, and it plays SNES and NES games. Weve had these for a long time. But the fact that these can play Super Famicom games is awesome. And we actually might start carrying the Gen-X consoles.

sadisticfreak432

I want a NES/SNES clone with component output and progressive scan!! S-Video isn't good enough.

pixeltao

All hail the Super FX chip!

PatMan33

@HAGE: If you have the Power Converter and the right version of Genesis.

Eltigro, hospital postin' fool

It's entirely possible the Gen-X will do Master System, too, if they hooked up the cart connections right. Remember, the original Genesis had all the necessary bits in it to play SMS games out of the box ... you just needed the PBC which was little more than an adapter to convert the pinout of the SMS carts.

I wonder if the Gen-X does S-Video also. I'd really like to see some actual in-depth testing of both of these units. They look pretty promising.

0x15e

I'm in the company of just going with the Wii for retro gaming, but it's nice to see there are options out there for people with a lot of old hardware carts that need something newer than old thrift store consoles.

I still have an original N64 that runs fine, but this doesn't cover that. Need more games for it though.

MrBionic

@DigitalHero:

Because the "clone" market tends to struggle with special chip stuff? For example, NES-on-a-chips choke on some Castlevania 3. I know EMULATORS can do it, but they tend to have far greater resources at their disposal and are generally a whole 'nother bag.

HAGE

@Eltigro: They already make a Genesis/Master System combo. It's called the Genesis.

HAGE

@HAGE:
Why be impressed? There is software that can run it perfectly.

DigitalHero

This is a little unnecessary since Wii's VC catalog gets bigger by the week with TG-16, SNES, NES, Genesis, and Neo Geo games.

DigitalHero

Tell me when they make a system that runs all three of them or just the Genesis and Super Nintendo together.

Gen16Snes

NES and Genesis combo? That is strange...

Why wouldn't they do Master system and Genesis combo?

Torokun

@DigiMish: No, for some reason, there's a version that plays SNES and NES games and another version that plays Genesis and NES games. No Genesis/Master System combo for some reason.

Eltigro, hospital postin' fool

I'm impressed that it can run Starfox, but that's just the tip of the iceberg, and HOW accurately it reproduces the original thing matters, of course.

HAGE

Why does this article make me wonder when the Zelda Phillips CD-i games are coming out for Virtual Console?

Fitz Rhapsody

This is good for the super retro fans out there, but I'm fine with the Wii. It doesn't have as large of a selection, but I don't have any money left over from Christmas, or time left in between playing my new 360 games and getting ready for school. Although, sometimes I think I might have more fun if I abbandoned this generation for the old school. After 60 hours of boring ass powerleveling in Oblivion, I'm craving some Mega Man and Mario.

altgod

@suya123:
Maybe, but if you are like me you still have and still continue to collect retro games yet it's the console that keeps crapping out on you. I think this is more tuned to the people already in the market of retro games as opposed to getting more people into the retro market.

art_zombie

@suya123:

uhh.. no. There are some games that are cheaper if you go buy them on ebay. It maybe like 1-3 dollars saved but its something. Plus some people prefer the physical copy of the game. I would shoot. Then when its so rare that is cost a million dollars sell it.

Shindokie (psn and xbl)

The FC Twin also couldn't play Castlevania III 'cause of a special chip...can this one play it?

NukaCola

I would get one of these and offically retire the NES to be a decoritve display item. (it pretty much is already since I got emus on PC and PSP)

SithNinja

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to just buy retro games on the wii?

suya123

@Green-clad Gamer Dude: Probably won't be a legal one with N64 for a while; the patents are still active on it. The system came out in 1996...and the shortest patents (design patents) have a 14 year life...the earliest we'll probably see legit 3rd party machines with n64 support would be another 2-3 years off (can't find the patents on the game system, though they probably would have been filed a while before the system came out)

verrius

Any word on whether they're multi-region?

Red_Rob

/shrug

Its cool and all...but ZSNES plus a wired XBox360 controller has made this type of product all but unnecessary for me. As nice as it is to play the actual cartridges.

blacklabelsk8erX

@bangbangblah:

Yeah but how long will one of those last before it dies too?

Sollus

Any idea of when it's going to be release/price? And is there anything that's already known not to work on the hardware?

Even if there are problems, it's still very tempting.

art_zombie

Meh, I mean this is cool and all because once all of the old consoles break, nothing new will be being made. But with that said, it's still possible to get an SNES, Genesis, or Nintendo on eBay for like $15-20.

"Saving a bit of space" would be the only reason to shell out money for this at this point.

bangbangblah

So the Gen-X can ONLY play SEGA games, right?

Because in that pic, there's an NES game in it. Can someone clarify?

DigiMish

I'm all over this thing. Both of my NES and SNES shit the bed and I've been dieing for Super Mario World. I hope it's under 100bucks too.

Sollus

Sweet, under 100 bucks i hope.

Berith

Running Starfox is no small feat. Oh... now I want one of these. I found a copy of R.B.I. Baseball 2 recently (by Tengen!) and I'm dying to play it...

Tonx

@Green-clad Gamer Dude:

That's the Wii

Avinash_Tyagi

I would consider buying one if they could also use the official SNES controller.

GreenCard200

No triple hybrid with N64 compatibility yet? Fail...

Green-clad Gamer Dude

I always knew you were hard core retro Mr. McWhertor. ;D

I wouldnt mind having one of those so I can buy a bunch of old games here to play again.

Witzbold

Shame it doesn't have the coloured buttons from Japan/EU region. Maybe you guys in the States don't miss them, but I always thought they were nice for helping to keep the buttons' functions distinct. Plus, crack translation teams like the ones working on Breath of Fire II had a tendency to forget that not everyone had Japan's button colours. I guess there's always a paint brush...

Darien_Shields

yay! now i dont have to blow on my games to play them anymore! also, where the light gun/super scope attachment?

bigman88zz

I'd consider it if it supported some other high-end outputs. My HDTV's only got one S-Video input, and it's in use.... Well, my components are as well, but I'd feel much more willing to purchase a switcher box for component.

JDavis

Will this play Yoshi Island? If so sold!

xpnet

Argh...it doesn't look as though the Gen-X supports s-video. Honestly, I'd like to see a Genesis clone with s-video support. Also, I'm not sure if it'd be legal yet, but it'd also be nice to see 32X and CD support built into a Genesis clone. That'd make it something worth owning.

kevinski

Perhaps I'm the odd ball but my NES and SNES work perfectly fine. Hell I have a Pong knock-off made by Coleco that works just fine too.

That said, I still support this kind of endeavor. I appreciate anything that saves me shelf space. It's a pain in my ass to have to dig through my closet and rotate which console systems I want to play for the month. I'm just waiting for a NES/SNES/N64 combo since I'll be able to break out the Saturn or the Jaguar more often then. :p

Kain-Xavier

Does anyone know whether this is region locked? Can I play euro games on these?

L_K_M

Sold. Where do I buy. If it *works*, I don't care how much it costs. And I'm poor.

reecord2

I own an fc twin, but i'm definitely going to get this one! I think s-video makes a big difference on 16-bit games. That is what other clones out there are missing! And the fact that it takes super famicom games and original controllers, this is going to be awesome! I stopped by their booth and I was told it would retail between $69.99 to $79.99. For the extra features, it's definitely worth it. This probably the only clone that takes original controllers, plays super famicom games, supports s-video, and even plays mario rpg and starfox! too cool...

bbcloseout

I know NES games on original hardware (even the AV Famicom - JP toploader) in S-video is impossible, because the hardware just doesn't support it. On NES units you can swap in the Play Choice 10 board and output component though.

I wonder how these things are made? I always wonder how much of the original hardware these console clones contain.

GhaleonUnlimited

yeah, theres just something satisfying about having a NES next to a SNES next to a n64

ContemplativeTwig

Yeah that setup is awesome. You can get the unit at VideoGameCentral.com plus there is a total user video for it here:
[www.youtube.com]

and yes it works with all the Original SNES controllers.

oldskoolfool