first person shooter
Haze Delayed Again
Posted by Mark Wilson at 6:20 AM on January 24, 2008
Free Radical's drug-friendly FPS Haze has been delayed yet again. Now it's been pushed back for a vague release within the 2008 fiscal year, meaning sometime between April 2008 and March 2009, for any and all platforms. Yes, that's quite a wide range, but the news came out in a financial report, not a press release packaged neatly for gamers to devour. I blame my own, nasal, not-so-kind impressions for destroying the team's progress. Apparently even Crecente's more positive take couldn't balance out the jarring to Free Radical's studio.
Haze PS3 Delayed Again [shacknews]

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
PurpleSfinx
Posted January 25, 2008 1:42 AM
Good. Will give them time to fix the frame rate (which I experienced first hand - played it at eGames).
Detha
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@Candlejack: Really? Oops, my bad! I've been out of the loop for a while I guess.
Detha
Candlejack
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@Detha: Not true. The PC & Xbox360 versions were canned entirely.
At first it was just a timed exclusive though.
Candlejack
Detha
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
To everyone saying, "I thought this was a PS3 exclusive." It is, but timed. Much like Unreal Tournament 3 - coming to 360 soon.
Detha
geoffcbassett
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Hope they bring Timesplitters back when this doesn't sell s***.
geoffcbassett
Candlejack
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@Kosher Infidel: MGS...either you're a fan or you're not. Can't argue with you over it. For me, it wasn't the reason to buy a PS3, but it counted a good 50% in.
Anyway, since you're asking for other exclusives and I am horrible at memorizing them: [www.psu.com]
Should give you a good idea of 'em to help you decide. It's totally up to you, I don't mind if you pick another console over what the PS3 offers. That's just personal taste.
Some got it and some don't.
Candlejack
ez054098
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Just give us the 360 version and hold the delays.
ez054098
Buttah
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
They got a look Resistance 2 and panicked.
Buttah
remanance
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Guess what game wussed out from competing with the big leagues Killzone and Resistance 2? Doesn't matter. I'm probably not going to buy any of the three...wait...maybe Resistance 2. 100ft monsters is just beastly.
remanance
PapaBear434
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I think at this point, they could can the project and hardly anyone would notice. I can understand a delay once in a while, but once a single product is delayed more than once, I file it under "unprofessional." I don't need a fake release date to keep me interested if the game is good enough.
The way I see it, is if you are unprofessional enough to delay more than once (or a total of over a year), then you are probably unprofessional enough to not know how to make an outstanding game.
Sorry, Free Radical, but unless your game gets some amazing reviews after it's finally released, I don't think I (or many others) are going to give it the time of day.
PapaBear434
ExtremeOne316
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Sounds like this game may never come out at all
ExtremeOne316
Kosher Infidel
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@Candlejack: That really is not much of a reason to purchase a 400 dollar machine. I am now seriously contemplating picking up a PS3 in the next week or so, but when I look past the BD movies, I don't see a whole lot of exclusive titles, and of those I do see, few pique my interest. And MGS4 is definitely NOT one that interests me at all; hated the other games in the series...always seemed second rate/phoned in with "zany" (to use a nice term) Nipon humor. Cardboard boxes, really?
Uncharted and Warhawk have me wanting the PS3, as well as Ratchet and Clank...but what else? Any game that goes to the 360 will be played on the 360 by me. Haze? Looks awful. Lair? Yeah. I strongly dislike JRPGs and UT3 is a hated shooter.
So, for some of us, the need for a reason to buy a PS3 is a wee bit stronger than one game. Or a movie format.
Kosher Infidel
Snappywave
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@thischarmingman: MGS4 and if u have good HDTV, Bluray
Snappywave
Candlejack
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@sauvage: Pachter.
Candlejack
sauvage
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Amazon.co.uk has had it listed as December 30, 2008 since December '07, so they knew at least a month ago. So it's no surprise to me at all. I think the game will be canned and the company's doors will close.
That's my Pratcher prediction, especially with the current economic climate.
sauvage
GameChad
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
There's no level of how NOT surprised I am to see this delayed. Everything they've shown of the game looks like it needs work- the Ai and gameplay more than anything else. It was obvious from the last showings that the game was in no condition to even be 'beta'- no way ready to ship this season.
GameChad
MASOCHIST187
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I too was looking for a reason to buy a PS3 and my answer is Blu-ray. I want HD movies, why the fuck not buy a player that just happens to also be a PS3?
(maybe it'll also quiet the 360 fanboy that lurks inside me that I keep quiet so no one notices......)
MASOCHIST187
PissedPS3Fan
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I was actually interested in this game, but my interest has waned. It'll take a really kick-ass demo for me to change my mind about wanting to pick it up.
PissedPS3Fan
Stormrider900
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Boy, popular opinion seems to have turned against this game in a big way. Interesting.
@meltyman: Man, all the downloadable content on Motorstorm should have been on the disc in the first place. What you get on the disc of Motorstorm sure as hell isn't worth 60 dollars.
Stormrider900
Zanch
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@BD:
And yet, Timeshift still sucked. Delays don't guarantee a good game.
Zanch
gitrooman
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Another generic fps delayed. wuteva..
gitrooman
meltyman
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@thischarmingman:
Resistance, Uncharted, Motorstorm and its unending downloadable content, Warhawk, free PSN, Ratchet and Clank, Folklore. Plus almost all 3rd party games r on the ps3 so u get assasins creed, madden, nba, burnout.
Lol, at this point in time, u should know if u want one or not
meltyman
Fluffy22
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
comfirmed for ps4! :D
Fluffy22
RabidSquirrel
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Well... that sucks. I was looking forward to this game.
RabidSquirrel
zombieistired
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I thought it was an exclusive. It was on a video in PSN and one of the DEVs or whoever was talking about the game and he specifically said EXCLUSIVELY on PS3...unless things changed?
zombieistired
jfx316
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
ehh.....never really interested in the game in the first place. on the other hand, DMC4 demo is out tomorrow and burnout is the sh*t!
jfx316
RRoD
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Free Radical you just lost my 60.00 dollars.
RRoD
Tale
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I like the art design and premise. I hope they turn it out to be good in other regards, as well.
Tale
gdf
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Wow, some early impressions and everyone is calling it as shit. It's got a decent amoun of time left and it's Free Radical. I'd rather have Timesplitters 4 this year than Haze, but don't totally write it off.
gdf
kw4k
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@sascha23: +1. i believe it was a poor choice for all involved. some great titles were pushed under the high-profile ones.
kw4k
TheLastGunslinger
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@PwningForFun:
You know what? Why not. Screw the game and focus your attention on TimeSplitter 4.
TheLastGunslinger
Gunhaver
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
NOOOO!! FUUUUUCK!!!!
Gunhaver
tristan_the_giant
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@thischarmingman: I too keep trying to justify purchasing one, but sadly I just can't. Not that this F.E.A.R. meets Halo abortion would have really made a difference. :/
tristan_the_giant
enigma776
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@tfive24:
It was suppose to be, and thats what sony labled it as but pc gaming mags let it slip about 6 months ago it was coming to the PC also which confused the hell out of me as well as made me laugh when sony said it was an exclusive.
enigma776
BloodStainedVendetta
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@BD: TImeShift was delayed 2 years and remade. Look how that turned out. HAZE is on path be be another TImeShift.
BloodStainedVendetta
Edge of Blade
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Before, we thought that PS3 games would be ahead of their time. Looks like we are getting to the "time" ahead of the games.
Edge of Blade
Candlejack
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@thischarmingman: [www.vgboxart.com]
You had it coming.
Candlejack
kw4k
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@BloodStainedVendetta: hmm... you're right. Prey anyone? well, i hope this doesnt turn out to be one of those cases.
kw4k
Balmung576
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
This seems a whole lot more like something bad has gone down then the game simply being pushed back. A whole year before it comes out? This game has been shown since early last year, something is going on.
Balmung576
kretinite
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Its not the devs fault its the guys in charge. Maybe its pressure from the publisher tempting FRD to be over optimistic with the scheduling. Seems odd theyre doing so pants these days.. considering how well they did in the PS2 era. Team size issues?
kretinite
kw4k
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@PwningForFun: rofl. eff it, it's over! quit while they're ahead, haha (jk)
oi vei! when will these games quit with the delays? aw well, like other devs out there, it's better they take the approach of when "it's done, it's done".
kw4k
Guild_Navigator
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I have a feeling that this is going to end in a multi platform release.
Guild_Navigator
BD
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Good to delay it than have it be TimeShift.
BD
thischarmingman
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I was kind of looking forward to this game. I still need a defining reason to buy a PS3...please...anyone.
thischarmingman
sascha23
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Delay it all you want. As long as it's good when it hits. This isn't one of those AAA titles that will make fans moan. Just don't pile them all up into one time frame again.
Last year's holiday lineup resulted in many poor-ass gamers.
sascha23
MasterOfPastures
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Haz-what? THIS is/was important?
Sorry, I just watched Life After People. Perspective, has to be taken into account.
MasterOfPastures
HykCraft
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Haha.. good because this game is horrible. I played it at the studio while seeing a friend who's on the development team, and I couldn't bear to play it more than 15 minutes.
HykCraft
logical
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I want to call game delays unprofessional, but at the same time I know how hard it is to make a product perfect. It seems like companies just feed gamers faux release dates to keep them anticipated for the release.
Then slap us in the face with "next year sometime" statement. :/
logical
def PD
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I ALMOST caved in to pre-ordering the game just to get that stupid syringe pen. Glad I didn't.
def PD
Candlejack
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I had heard of this before 2008, but it was just a rumour at the time. I honestly didn't expect the early 08 release.
Plus, at this point, I lost all hope for both the game and the UK studio. Once the title eventually launches, it will be incredibly outdated (mostly in terms of technology). Thanks for nothing but promises.
Candlejack
PwningForFun
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
@tfive24: At this rate, who really gives a damn anymore.
PwningForFun
BloodStainedVendetta
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
HAZE has become a HUGE pass for me. I'm taking my pre-order and placing it elsewhere now. I'll have 20 better shooters by the end of '08-'09. Resistance 2 will be out and is bigger and more ambitious in every single way. I'm done waiting around for HAZE. **** it.
More dev time = a better game, though! Not always the case. THere have been plenty of times where many high profile games have been delayed time and time again, yet still end up being the definition of mediocrity. I gave Free Radical 2 delays, and one long delay, but they didn't deliver. TOo bad, so sad, my $60 will be spent somewhere better.
BloodStainedVendetta
okenny :)
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Dude! Gotta polish that AI man! Does this lend any evidence to this slipping from being an exclusive?
okenny :)
tfive24
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
Not trying to be an ass, but i thought this game was just a ps3 exclusive.
tfive24
Sailorcancer
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
I thought this was out.
Sailorcancer
njhardcoreguy
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
At this rate it will come out at the same time as Killzone 2, thus shooting itself in the foot. This game looks blah anyway.
njhardcoreguy
PwningForFun
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
You know what? Just can the fucking game... Just can it.
PwningForFun
Snappywave
Posted 7:47 AM 24/1/08
:(
Snappywave
madman83
Posted 2:38 PM 23/1/08
@Candlejack: Yes we all know how games trumpeted as PS3 exclusives have faired just like Assassins Creed. Wait wasn't that also from Ubisoft?
madman83
Ehardergardens
Posted 2:38 PM 23/1/08
@PapaBear434: I would challenge this with Blizzard and their insane number of delays and changes, but Blizzard is a different case and have proven themselves time and again that they made the right choice.
I really don't care about delays personally, as long as the end product is good, but I do have an attention span for pre hype. I didn't care about the delays for Half life 2 other than I wanted to play it. It didn't make me disrespect Valve, but again they have a proven track record.
Ehardergardens
Dick.Blake
Posted 2:34 PM 23/1/08
I'm getting really sick of the FPS genre... if I've played one, I've played them all.
Dick.Blake
ssjmichael
Posted 2:31 PM 23/1/08
@jiSh:
It'll flop for sure :(
ssjmichael
Mpalm.
Posted 2:20 PM 23/1/08
@ez054098:
Yeah, then this would be the best game ever. It definitely has nothing to do with improving the game because some early reviews weren't very positive. Nah, couldn't be that. Must be that piece of shit ps3! XBOX 4 life yo.
Mpalm.
DugDawg
Posted 2:17 PM 23/1/08
**Shakes magic 8 ball** Should I be surprised another PS3 game is being delayed? **Answer: Certainly not!**
DugDawg
AndrewG009
Posted 2:15 PM 23/1/08
@PwningForFun: I've been following this bloody game since it was announced and you know what, I have to agree, it's never coming. I'm tired of acting like the little kid sitting on the fireplace waiting for Santa on Christmas Eve, either bring it out or screw it. I'm going to play some more Portal in the meantime.
AndrewG009
Candlejack
Posted 2:06 PM 23/1/08
@chimp_o_death: [www.gametrailers.com]
"With HAZE, we want to be creating, really, the shooter that people think of when they think of PS3 [...] HAZE will be available in November 2007, exclusively on PlayStation3."
David Doake, sometime beginning of November 2007. Towards the end of the video.
Candlejack
Ehardergardens
Posted 1:57 PM 23/1/08
@Ehardergardens: ... being examples where it worked out less successfully (i didn't play Pariah but reviews seem to indicate this
Ehardergardens
jiSh
Posted 1:56 PM 23/1/08
I hope this doesn't flop, but I'm developing a sinking feeling that it will. Will it be forgotten or will it return from the depths with brand new hype riding a new advertising train? Who knows...
jiSh
Ehardergardens
Posted 1:55 PM 23/1/08
It had some nice looking graphics, but I was definitely going to wait for reviews or a demo, as I haven't heard anything regarding the gameplay an the implementation of the story that has me excited.
The story doesn't sound bad but games have a very iffy track record for taking a good story and making it really live in the game. Bioshock, Thief, and Deus Ex all being good examples of it working. Red Faction 2 or Pariah (did anyone play that?)
Ehardergardens
chimp_o_death
Posted 1:52 PM 23/1/08
@Candlejack: "Free Radical co-founder and GoldenEye 007 (N64) veteran David Doak noted that development was proceeding on all platforms, but that the game would debut on PlayStation 3 first."
From Shacknews as of 31 Aug. 2007
chimp_o_death
Candlejack
Posted 1:50 PM 23/1/08
@Detha: Yup. In some of the latest developer diaries, they mention they wanted to make THE first person shooter that you think of when you think PS3. Or the other way round.
Candlejack
zoesch
Posted 1:48 PM 23/1/08
@Stormrider900: So far the majority of the people I see bitching either don't have a PS3 or weren't planning on purchasing one.
@Detha: Nope, you can still wish for it though.
zoesch
Candlejack
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
@TheKbob: Indeed. Which is what Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Folklore and Ratchet & Clank have shown us ;)
Other than that, I respect your opinion. All about personal preference at the end of the day.
Candlejack
KidU
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
Ok, I had to go look this up...but this game was originally slated to be released in Summer 2007. There are delays, and then there is just plain nuts. I think a nearly year long delay is about time for the developers to just can this one.
KidU
TheKbob
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
As soon as they stopped releasing the PC version, I stopped caring.
@Candlejack:
I seriously looked at this list and said "No" to most of those titles save White Knight Story, Killzone 2, and Resistance 2.
All 3 have much to prove with me and all 3 need to get out of the next-gen "Browns" and get some damned color in them. Crysis and Halo 3 taught me well,... you can have great shooters with more than monotone colors!
TheKbob
hawaiianactor
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
damn druggies are never on time!
hawaiianactor
Candlejack
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
@madman83: Except that Assassins Creed was offered to Sony as exclusive to pay for, which they didn't, way before we saw the first footage (AFAIK). The first few promotional art/screenshots even had the PS3 exclusive branding subtitle somewhere.
I seriously doubt a port of HAZE when PC & 360 versions have been canned - unless maybe 2-3 years later. It would simply not be possible otherwise from a development point of view.
But arguing for/against this is quite pointless, we're not the publisher let alone the devs.
Candlejack
soundgarden
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
Either they are trying to manipulate their financial results by moving the release to a different fiscal year, or they realize that this overhyped game is not going to be positively received. Frankly, I watched videos of it on YouTube and was not impressed AT ALL. I agree with the first poster, just cancel the game. Just can it, before it bombs.
soundgarden
stranger
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
Funny, Haze was in the last issue of EGM's Review's Wrap-Up sidebar... which would mean that the Ziff-Davis folks at least *thought* they had a final build in house. Fishy...
stranger
crashlanding
Posted 10:45 AM 24/1/08
Lets look at the history from about mid 2007:
First a delay, then a PS3 only announcement, then 2 more delays missing 2007 entirely. The game finally looks to release in mid March, and us.playstation.com is running Haze on it's front page banner as of yesterday 1/22. Now it's coming for "All Platforms" and the release slips at least another month and maybe more.
Either the game is messed up, or the PS3 "exclusive" deal went south since last year. Or maybe both.
crashlanding
StolenName
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
I've had a chance to play through Haze and can tell you that it NEEDS to be delayed. The build I trialled in November last year had a below acceptable framerate, confusing HUD and was difficult to aim / shoot and it was missing a sensitivity adjuster.
The vehicle sections were also rather clunky.
The graphics were also flat and unpolished, like you'd expect from a PS2 game even.
Don't get me wrong, I like the premise but if they released it on schedule, it would have been an embarrassment.
StolenName
Se-7-eN
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
Dont make the fucking game then SHIT!
Delays make people lose interest.... And this game is fucking garbage now.
Se-7-eN
Kyle81
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
@KidU: Games often have tons of delays. Assassins Creed was delayed a whole bunch of time, as has MGS4 so far. Super Smash Bros has been delayed now how long? SMG? Yea... those are going to be shit games.
Kyle81
Codexx
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
Well, we've found the PS equivalent of TimeShift.
If this isn't a PS3 exclusive that comes out soon, screw my preorder. It's probably only going to end up like TimeShift, a minor distraction nobody remembers less than a month later. I thought it had a chance to at least compete with Halo and bring some FPS loving to the PS3, but no, this is just sad. We're waiting an eternity.
At least Nintendo seems to feel bad, making the US wait for long for the game. A simple press release with "We apologize to people looking forward to this game", isn't enough anymore.
If the game seems to be functioning properly, then it shouldn't need a few more months. Fix the bugs at ship it, rather than adding stuff, making new bugs, and then fixing them. I don't care if "some spots don't feel right" and yes, any and all flaws("The framerate slows down during some very intense parts, there's some lag when loading, etc) will be pointed out and marked off by reviewers because "it's not perfect". It's a rediculous standard to live up to, but the game looks like it's working, balance the two side(rebels and soldiers) and then fix some bugs, as a little polish. I Know making games is hard, but with a large staff working in full force, a few months is enough time to add twice as many levels. All the game engines are built, people are experienced at level design, what's the problem?
Codexx
TOWER_JUNKIE
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
Free Radical should just save themselves the trouble and cancel this. The game didn't look that good to begin with, anyway.
TOWER_JUNKIE
ShaggyB
Posted 11:45 AM 24/1/08
Delay-Station strikes again.
ShaggyB
boopadoo
Posted 6:38 PM 23/1/08
See Mark? Use your powers for good, not evil.
boopadoo
Nimsim
Posted 5:58 PM 23/1/08
@BD: Timeshift was delayed with one year, look how much that did.
Nimsim
Nightshift_Nurse
Posted 8:27 PM 23/1/08
It's a shame I'll have to wait even longer to play this, but if that's what it takes to make it a better game then so be it. One wonders if this game is truly delayed or was simply announced far too early.
Still, Free Radical is the house that made Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Timesplitters...I have every confidence that this game will still be better than 90% of the FPSs out there.
Then again, I'm finding more and more that I simply don't care for PC-esque shooters, so that's probably why their games appeal to me so much more than titles like The Orange Box (sans Portal).
Nightshift_Nurse
somarix
Posted 7:38 PM 23/1/08
So a simultaneous release on all platforms? Right around when R2 and KZ2 come-out? If Haze isn't better than COD4, then they'll find a gazillion pirates as customers... plus only a thousand PS3 and x360 gamers.
From their PR videos, they looked like wasting time imho.
somarix
mphz
Posted 3:45 PM 24/1/08
Somehow I get the feeling that Haze will end up as just another generic FPS with a shiny coat of paint on it.
mphz
LividChihuahua
Posted 3:45 PM 24/1/08
For the number of times this game has been delayed it better be so good a attractive female character reaches out through my tv and gives a head or I'll be disappointed.
LividChihuahua
faster1974
Posted 3:27 AM 24/1/08
@kw4k: You really took the words out of my mouth with the Prey comparison.
I was really enthused about this game and still don't see why it shouldn't release to decent reviews. But the momentum of any hype and excitement that it had been been building up will have long passed by the time it comes out.
faster1974
Malmer
Posted 2:50 AM 24/1/08
I don't care much, it won't ever come near my PS3.
Release it on PC an you'll have a buy.
Malmer
Y0URGOD78
Posted 2:45 AM 25/1/08
Oh killzoneeeee....I mean Haze your breaking the fanboys hearts.
Y0URGOD78