I missed out on this game on Gamecube. Really excited to pick this up on XBLA and experience it in all it's high def glory!

ThisCharmingMan

@Sanjo:

It has been known it was coming, but this is news that it appeared on the Partner Net, thus it is getting closer!

EnigmaNemesis

[en.wikipedia.org]

Specifically the "Xbox Live Arcade" part?
Is this old news? ;_;

Sanjo

I used to have both the Dreamcast and Cube versions, but ended up selling them both off. Never was any good at it, so I lost interest. I might have to give it another shot on XBLA (although this type of game seriously needs a proper arcade stick to play well.)

Vexorg

Tired, should have read...

To this day, I am still amazed by that video!

EnigmaNemesis

@Grave:

Oh I still am, trust me!!!

EnigmaNemesis

@moobaa:

Or maybe the game is programmed the wrong way, since the desktop and web pages flick the proper way... /wink

I am sure they will have this in mind, and probably do since they are making that aspect ratio... why else would they knowing full well most of those monitors in the upper quality swivel, which is perfect for the game!!!!

EnigmaNemesis

@EnigmaNemesis: You say that like you're not anymore.

Grave

@Carac:

To this day, I was always amazed by that video!

EnigmaNemesis

@DarrenIndeed: Some movies are filmed in a wider ratio, that's all. Unless they create a TV that can actually morph its physical shape and size, those letterboxes will always be there. Or I'm sure maybe someone will release an "extra" widescreen TV that letterboxes the sides of the screen for normal movies...

dowingba

@sugardeath: @Blah8:

yeah i understand. thank you.

shindokie

@Brian Ashcraft:

"In the following days, Microsoft has been reminding developers and journalists that they are in breach of NDA by sharing information about content available on PartnerNet, and has been asking websites to remove lists of games in development discovered on PartnerNet."

As far as I can tell, Microsoft is still against the disclosure of Partnernet information.

That being said. I played me some HD Ikaruga today at work ;)

Silvercross

At whatever resolution the bosses shoot to many bullets :P

Pornosaur

@EnigmaNemesis: Unfortunately, the Dell monitors swivel the "wrong" way (for Ikaruga on the GameCube with my 2405FPW, anyway). It's a pretty easy physical mod to remove the offending stopper, though ;)

moobaa

@shindokie:
People, 16:10 widescreen is simply the aspect ratio of most widescreen computer monitors. 16:9 is the ratio used for HDTV. Example: My screen right now is 1680x1050, which is 16:10, but a 1080p HDTV runs at 1920x1080 which is 16:9. The closest PC monitor to that resolution is a 1920x1200 which is 16:10. Get it?

Blah8

@blackadvent: Ikaruga was also popular because it both happened to be one of the best shooters of its day, and saw actual, attainable US release. It arguably wasn't the best shmup, but it was unique, insanely difficult, and just...within...grasp. Also, Treasure is known for putting out barely attainable, unique, and legendary games. So each game they release tends to immediately inherit that legacy.

I'll be happy when the live arcade version comes out, though I don't know if I'll put in the raw time required to get unlimited credits again (8 hours, I believe). At least with a live release people can try it for themselves.

seishino

Woaaaah 16:10 widescreen? I hope they start doing this for more games =D. Or maybe I should scrape together some cash and get a HDTV. >_>

cheesecake000

Need this game NAU!111111

Witzbold

@Cow_Shed: Yeah, because this game will be just fantastic with lag.

No thanks.

Grave

@TheCleaningGuy: If you got Paypal and MSN, ICQ, Yahoo or a e-mail, let's talk there.
I'll likely use what I make from it's sale to buy MS points anyway.

Sixtail

Ack...jealous this is going to XBL... come to PSN...with online support??? So I can relive my Dreamcast days with others :) Loved this game, get this if you like 2D shooters.

Cow_Shed

@Carac: The flash version is the boss of the first level, and they only render 1/5 the density of projectiles he shoots at you, since an arcade accurate Ikaruga flash game would cripple most computer do to the sheer number of things on the screen.

Carac

@Sixtail: Sell it to me! ME!

TheCleaningGuy

@Morpork:

Flash version of the first level: [kotaku.com]

Hopefully the XBLA version will also have the option of turning the game side ways. I have a VGA cable for my dreamcast and a LCD computer monitor that rotates to a vertical oriention so Ikaruga is displayed full screen in the correct aspect ratio, arcade cabinet style.

Also, Video of a guy playing both player 1&2 (one hand on each controller) on Chapter 5...amazing:
[www.youtube.com]

Carac

@Sixtail: Unless he can download a 50Mb file and burn it onto a cd ;)

suntorytime

Ya I figured, thanks guys.

Morpork

@Morpork: Dreamcast, but your going to pay out the nose for it.

Sixtail

@Morpork: Dreamcast?

blackadvent

@DarrenIndeed: LOL.. you seem understand enough about the matter to know that's not something they would advertise :) That like the Wii calling its GH3 sound output "enhanced stereo".

okenny :)

Ikaruga is a serious mindfuck, and an enjoyable one at that... play it enough and the connection between your mind and your fingers will operate so quickly that you won't recognize your own actions.

Love this game, many a 4 AM college morning was wasted playing this co-op with roommates.

crapsh00t

DAMN YOU 360 AND YOUR IKARUGA!!!.... I have to go back to playing it on my dc now :(.

myd12

Now release Radiant Silvergun and I will truly be happy.

AzureDrag0n1

Is there any other way of playing this apart from GC or XBL?

Morpork

I'll be selling my GC version once this one drops.

Sixtail

@Digitalguardian (GOD DAMN EWOKS!): Ikaruga was a game that got released twice on two different consoles (Dreamcast and Gamecube) that got ignored both times. It's generally one of the few shmups in recent memory, and also one of the damn hardest games of the decade.

blackadvent

@okenny :):

That may be one resolution available for 16:10, but as with 16:9 and 4:3 aspect ratios, the resolution will obviously scale acording to the ratio.

That is why we have aspect ratios and dont just say the resolution, since there are many resolutions that are 16:10. And 16:9. And 4:3. etc...

What is really annoying me at the minute is that after getting a widescreen hdtv, and watching hd content on it, I find that the bloody films are letter-boxed. WHY? No doubt in a couple of years we will end up being told we need to buy the new Extra-WideScreen TV (tm).

DarrenIndeed

@shindokie: 16:9 is generally the ratio of the width of a video to its height. 16:9 widescreen is the most common format used for movies on DVD, despite that true movie screen ratio is something far different (I worked at a movie theatre for three years, I've seen plenty of movie screens =P). 16:10, however, is most often used for widescreen computer monitors, for some reason. It has just a slight bit more vertical viewing area than 16:9. It's taller, if you will =P

sugardeath

@EggmaniMN:

Well, my Dell swivels to the vertical mode, so I would LOVE to play this game 1920x1200 with it vertical!

*wishes*

EnigmaNemesis

@suntorytime:

So true, while running 1080p with fill on the 24" 1920x1200 16x10 looks amazing, it would be nice to have it native.

The 16:10 could also mean a 1680x1050 resolution, not necessarily 1920x1200! But would also make no sense due to it being less than the 1080p marketing.

EnigmaNemesis

16:10 resolution is for those who can use Tate mode. You basically turn your TV on its side.

I think the only other games that naturally support 16:10 are from the Beatmania IIDX series.

EggmaniMN

Maybe Ikaruga being available to a wider audience will cut down on how overrated it is? Nah... probably not. But I guess Gradius V isn't coming and neither are any Cave shooters, so I'll be quiet now.

So it supports a number of widescreen resolutions. Groovy. What about tate modes for people who monitors that can rotate? This is important.

Grave

@Brian Ashcraft: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

you Scamp you

Manjikengo

Including a 16:10 resolution is a little random. But if dev's have finally started to hear the cries of widescreen monitor users then that's great, because MS certainly hasn't given a fudge about them.

suntorytime

I feel so greedy...they give me some manic shooter I never heard of so I ask for Ikaruga. Now they give me Ikaruga and I'm asking for Radiant Silvergun.

Gunhaver

@Brian Ashcraft: Tell your mole I said thank you then :)

okenny :)

Wait a minute! STOP THE PRESSES!!! 16:10 is 1920x1200 on HD display... I didn't even know that resolution was available! Are you shitting me Bashcraft?!!!

okenny :)

@okenny :):
I don't have Partner Net! How can I be under NDA? :P

Brian Ashcraft

I've already got it for Gamecube, picked it up for $10 Mint. :D

Arkley

@Digitalguardian (GOD DAMN EWOKS!): Not to mention you don't have partner net... that's why it's amazing. Think of it as confirmation/ early warning system. Show some gratitude :)

okenny :)

@Trowble: I like the way you think. Or Castle Crashers. When will that game come out already?

ludwigk

whats the difference between 16:9 and 16:10? I lack this kind of knowledge :'(

shindokie

It's the sheer awesomeness of Ikaruga. I snagged a copy of it a few months ago for GC to play on my Wii, but I'm very happy that XBLA will allow many more people to enjoy the game.

ludwigk

I wouldn't mind that being the free game due to XBL debacle.

Trowble

@Digitalguardian (GOD DAMN EWOKS!): ...it's Ikaruga?

edb87

LOL... @Ashcraft: Aren't you guys under embargo/nda about things on partner net? Not that I mind as I gobble up the info with greed in my eyes :)

okenny :)

@Digitalguardian (GOD DAMN EWOKS!):

Ikaruga was amazing, that's what makes it special.

NeoAkira

Pardon my ignorance, but surely tons of games have appeared on Partner Net before release. What makes Ikaruga special?

Digitalguardian (GOD DAMN EWOKS!)

As if there weren't enough XBLA-related reasons for me to get an Xbox 360.

Draconis

Soon™ is not now enough!

FranUnFine

@Gunhaver: Yes...Radiant Silvergun...fuck Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD, whichever console scores Radiant Silvergun first shall be declared the undisputed winner of this generation...at least by me.

DaiMacculate

@DaiMacculate: *yawn* You'd probably never heard of Radiant Silvergun until the Treasure fanboy fueling articles of the late 90's.

O-Z

@O-Z: Yeah, you sound so cool, man. Because, you know, DaiMacculate is such a loser for thinking Radiant Silvergun is one of the greatest games of all time (it is!) and yet he didn't even know about it until the late 90's! Jeez, what a freakin' idiot! How could he not know about it until the late 90's when the game came out in... wait... oh, it came out in 1998? Shit, I guess it's okay then.

callahan09

@Megadestructo: Definitely. Bangai-Oh is definitely my favorite game that ever graced the Dreamcast. I love a lot of treasure games, but Bangai-Oh and Radiant Silvergun are probably my two favorites, followed by Gunstar Heroes, Guardian Heroes, and Ikaruga in a 3-way tie for second.

callahan09

Amazing. I was just playing this on my Dreamcast. As amazing as I found Ikaruga, I'd be more for a release of Bangai-Oh...

Megadestructo

@O-Z: yeah fuck you man, I played it on a Friend's import Saturn almost 6 years ago. Yeah, thats 3 years after release but I'm neither Japanese nor did it come out in North America, so you'll forgive me if I was a bit late. I was also probably playing Gunstar Heroes when you were still in diapers, but thats beside the point.

DaiMacculate

Rez HD has been available on PartnerNET for a few months now :O

jynxycat

@AzureDrag0n1: I second that! I was such a fool for not picking Radiant up when I had the chance for my Saturn. At least I picked up Ikaruga for my Dreamcast...

Phester

wait a second, what difference does it make if it is 16:9 or 16:10?
Won't you be limited to just a sliver of gamescreen in the middle of your hdtv anyways since it is a vertical shmup. Doesn't it just mean you have a little bit less black space on the sides of your screen?

Or are you guys going to flip your HDTVs on the side and play? hmmmmmmmmmm...... or just put the tv on the floor screen facing up and play from the side of the tv.

Dougman

So how about Bangaioh Spirits, huh?

gsilverfish

@DaiMacculate:

I was also probably playing Gunstar Heroes when you were still in diapers, but thats beside the point.

Nice ... :-p!

EnigmaNemesis

Dang. It would be nice to see this for the PS2 but I suspect it's unlikely at best.

Evi-Jim

I own this game on GC and I may end up buying it again just because it is one of the few games good enough to warrant it.

Darkest Daze

I really wish this came 2 PS3 I have the GC version and I friking love it

Ruisu

I bought this on the Cube because I wanted a game that would kick my ass and that I'd eventually get better at...

But I never did. I always made a LITTLE more progress, but... Not nearly enough. I never beat it and never will. This game kicked the everloving shit outta me. Bastard...

2NinjasTapedTogether