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Japanese Sales Trends In 2007: Line Riding And Analysing
Posted by Kotaku US Edition at 5:00 AM on January 16, 2008
We know that Nintendo dominated 2007, with a constant, reliable stream of good news and strong sales. But how did the rest of the competition stack up? We've decided to look back at a full year of sales data from Japanese analyst outlet Media Create, whose sales data we regularly feature in the Simple 2000 Japanese Sales Chart series.
With a license to seemingly print money, Nintendo took 2007 by storm, establishing console and handheld dominance with its two casual friendly game devices. Nintendo DS and Wii dominated software and hardware charts, seeing a steady flow of week to week sales for both platforms, appearing to only weaken when supply was constrained.
Sony's offerings, the PSP, PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 2, had a solid (if not spectacular) year. The PS3 didn't make any waves, but the PSP did. The PS2, now seven years long in the tooth, still had a bit of life in it.
The Xbox 360? Well, we don't have nice things to say about its Japanese performance, so we'll just let the charts do the talking.

When units of each platform are presented side by side, the stranglehold the Nintendo DS has on the Japanese market becomes apparent. Its weekly sales outpaced every other console's and handheld's performance for nearly the entirety of the year. The only platform to outperform the DS at any point was Sony's PlayStation Portable, aided by a pair of marquee releases (plus a hardware redesign) in the first and third quarters of 2007.
The Nintendo DS saw its largest weekly period sales alongside a few high-profile software releases and in time with holidays, but was less dependent on individual software releases to pull in big numbers. Media Create software sales charts were regularly heavy on DS software, and it wasn't uncommon to see weekly charts feature nothing but DS and Wii software in the top ten—see Dragon Quest Swords and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings launch weeks and this past week for examples.
In general, however, Nintendo DS sales trends tended not to spike as severely as other platforms did, with sales of older titles such as New Super Mario Bros. and Animal Crossing Wild World still doing solid business for Nintendo, many months after their respective release dates.

When we look at year-to-date sales in handy bar graph form, we get a much better perspective on the share of the Japanese market that Nintendo carved out for itself in 2007. This was the year that Nintendo DS hardware sales surpassed those of the PlayStation 2, with each at about 21 million consoles sold in the nation, lifetime to date. It's an impressive feat for the handheld, as it surpassed that figure in almost exactly 3 years, compared to a 7 year shelf life for Sony's console.
The DS pushed some 7 million-plus units into the hands of Japanese consumers, a third of its total sales. Not a bad year for the platform widely considered a gimmick before its launch.
On Sony's side, 2007 saw the PlayStation 3 outsell the PlayStation 2 in its first full year on the market, with the PSP achieving just shy of one-half of the DS's sales, a similarly impressive feat for a non-Nintendo portable device.
The Xbox 360, despite seeing a handful of video game releases that sold admirably over the year, continued to be a non-factor in the console war overseas. Its annual sales were about a quarter-million, something the Nintendo DS accomplished on a weekly basis multiple times in 2007. Sure, it's a bit apples to oranges, considering the price differences in hardware and software, but its illustrative of consumer tastes in Japan. Microsoft's efforts to appeal to Eastern gaming tastes with a pair of Mistwalker games, hardware bundles and a few exclusives from Namco Bandai were met with flat sales in the nation.

Who had the biggest slice of the pie in 2007? Nintendo, of course, with over two-thirds of the entire console market dedicated to Nintendo DS and Wii sales. That's not including sales of legacy platforms like the GameCube, Game Boy Advance SP and Game Boy Advance micro, whose total sales were in the 60,000 range and not factored into the above charts.
While DS and Wii sales were slightly down at the end of the year, coming off of a strong Wii launch and solid sales of Dragon Quest Monsters Joker and multiple "Training" games at the end of 2006, strong sales of Wii Fit, Mario Party DS, Dragon Quest IV, Final Fantasy IV and others indicate that 2008 will still be a good year for the company.

Nintendo DS sales against the PSP show that there is still a broad gap between weekly sales of the two platforms. However, the PSP's ability to unseat the DS for a handful of weeks shouldn't be overlooked and close sales numbers for both around holiday periods show that the PSP deserves credit for chipping away at Nintendo's near monopoly on the portable gaming space. Sony has Capcom and Square-Enix largely to thank for that, as Monster Hunter and Final Fantasy titles were responsible for the biggest sales spikes.

In the home console war, nothing can touch the Wii. The PlayStation 3 flirted with console dominance along with the help of a few big name, Japanese friendly titles like the Musou series and a hardware revision, but Wii sales saw fewer sales spikes as households picked up the console with older titles like Wii Sports and Wii Play.
The Xbox 360 peaked on sales of Ace Combat 6, Eternal Sonata (nee Trusty Bell) and Lost Odyssey, but it was regularly outsold by its more expensive rival the PS3.

The Nintendo DS was less prone to peaks and valleys, save for the release of Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings, largely responsible for a biweekly crush of a half-million units shifted. Big name releases like The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass still got gamers into stores, but non-gaming software, remakes and older titles like New Super Mario Bros. and Animal Crossing helped to push the Nintendo DS into record territory.

Like the Nintendo DS, Wii sales were less bumpy, as heavily marketed and franchise releases seemed to have less of an impact than the desire to play Wii Sports. One interesting trend that seemed to affect Wii sales were strong post-release weeks, with Mario games (Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Party 8) doing more good in their second week of release. The same may be true for Wii Fit, but with end-of-year sales up across the board, it's difficult to determine its impact.

There's little doubt that the PSP outperformed in its third year on the market on the release of Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII which coincided with the release of the PSP-2000 (aka Slim & Light). No other platform saw such a remarkable increase, as sales jumped from 15,000 to 278,000 over the course of two weeks after Crisis Core's come to market. The year's other key release, Monster Hunter Portable 2nd continues to show up in weekly software sales charts.

The PlayStation 3 also benefited from a handful of big releases, most notably Gundam Musou and Shin Sangoku Musou 5, which we'll call Dynasty Warriors 6 when the West get it. Sony's push to release the cheaper 40GB version of the PS3 alongside another Musou game, just weeks prior to Gran Turismo 5 Prologue made for a respectable end-of-year for the lagging console.

PlayStation 2 sales were generally unremarkable during its seventh year. That may be arguable, of course, as a seven year shelf life with over 800,000 sold in 2007 may still impress some. But it would appear that many are ready to move on to the next generation (finally), as it underperformed in relation to its big brother the PlayStation 3. PS2 sales saw less intense highs and lows, as hardcore targeted games like Super Robot Wars, World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 and Musou Orochi introduced Japanese gamers to invest (or re-invest) in last-gen hardware.

Like the PlayStation 3, momentous releases move Xbox 360 hardware. Eternal Sonata, Ace Combat 6 and Halo 3, along with their respective hardware bundles, were the biggest reasons for Japanese gamers to "Jump In" to the Western platform. Outside of a few surprises—Halo 3's performance, for example—there weren't many unexpected strong performers on Microsoft's box.
Final Thoughts & Predictions
With a slew of attention grabbing releases for the Wii and Nintendo DS due throughout 2008, we expect that Nintendo will continue to reign supreme in hardware sales. Dragon Quest IX, Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Monster Hunter Wii should serve the company well in keeping Japanese consumers interested in buying Nintendo hardware.
Now that Capcom has decided to bring its Monster Hunter series to Wii, that could be a big blow to the PSP. With Crisis Core finally arriving and Square-Enix focusing on more stable franchise remakes for the DS, 2007 may have been the PSP's peak year. Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep should still keep units moving, but we suspect that Sony may look to a future hardware revision or proper follow up to the PSP to generate more interest.
2008 may be much better for the PlayStation 3, as games like Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4, Level 5's White Knight Chronicles, Sega's Yakuza 3 and Sony's own Gran Turismo 5 see release and should push hardware. If Capcom can get Resident Evil 5 and Square-Enix at least one of the Final Fantasy XIII titles out this year, the PS3 may be able to carve out a much larger slice of the console market pie in Japan.
It's obviously still extremely early to see how the 2008 sales landscape will look and there will be plenty of time to see how the chips fall in the new year, but it looks like things can only go up for Nintendo's dual platforms and Sony's PS3.

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cheez
Posted 12:49 PM 15/1/08
@Horsefly: How dare a different nation have different gaming preferences, mirite?
cheez
heihachi.vs.kazuya
Posted 12:48 PM 15/1/08
The appeal of the xbox360 just isn't there for the Japanese. This is something microsoft is going to have to work hard on otherwise they will continue to do poorly. The console appeals more to white american adolescents than any other demographic.
I know people that bought the ps3 at lauch just for the diverse line up and so far the ps3 isn't dissapointing them. I know people that bought a ps3 just because gow, sotc and ico came out on the ps2 and want to see whats next and because of games coming out like mgs4 and the ffXIIIs. The guys at sony just do a better job at appealing to a wider demographic.
heihachi.vs.kazuya
Hellcom
Posted 12:45 PM 15/1/08
Line Rider = GOTY That game saved me so many times from boredom.
Hellcom
rezak
Posted 12:39 PM 15/1/08
Casuals are a great money maker. Look at The Sims. It's not for hardcore. I'm personally glad for the paradigm shift, since (hopefully) production studios can use the proceeds of say a casual game to help with big budget games.
My personal tastes lean to the hardcore. Yet, I do enjoy the choice of casuals.
rezak
darkthanatos
Posted 12:33 PM 15/1/08
Many those are some really sexy graphs/charts. I've always wondered just how much system sales can be spurred by certain game releases, would be nice to see the same kind of data for the US market.
On a side note, is it a bad thing that I got a stiffy from looking at those graphs? Man I love me some video game graph porn from Japan ;)
darkthanatos
ReyBrujo
Posted 12:29 PM 15/1/08
And "Its weekly sales", not "It's weekly sales" (by the way, the comment system is almost as slow as Digg's one, and I thought that one was the worst!).
ReyBrujo
Buttah
Posted 12:28 PM 15/1/08
I still say that Nintendo is putting crack in every DS.
Buttah
ReyBrujo
Posted 12:27 PM 15/1/08
Ok, repeat after me: "Its annual sales", not "It's annual sales"... and "Its annual sales", not "It's annual sales". Thanks.
ReyBrujo
Hiero Glyph
Posted 12:25 PM 15/1/08
@Tale: Yes, but consider that the same number of Wii units is being distributed to Japan that all of North America is getting and the numbers are not as skewed. Japan's total population accounts for less then 50% of the United States' numbers and that does not include Canada or Mexico. So this is less of a factor in Japan than it is in North America. But yes, there was an increase right at the end of the year due to increased production.
Hiero Glyph
Witzbold
Posted 12:25 PM 15/1/08
@Tale: Actually its been in stock for quite some time now. Only for a few months after the launch was it hard to find.
Witzbold
pandafresh
Posted 12:25 PM 15/1/08
wait wait, wheres the phantom!?
pandafresh
Horsefly
Posted 12:25 PM 15/1/08
@smitty1123: Have you played either?
Horsefly
SaintWaldo
Posted 12:21 PM 15/1/08
I'm wondering why the writeup refers to the PS3, the #2 console in a 3 console market, as "the lagging console". Wouldn't the 360 be the proper bearer of that epithet in the Japan market?
SaintWaldo
BPMΩ
Posted 12:19 PM 15/1/08
The only platform to outperform the DS at any point was Sony's PlayStation Portable, aided by a pair of marquee releases (plus a hardware redesign) in the first and third quarters of 2007.
Actually, I believe the Wii outsold the DS for a week or two early in the year... The first graph seem to show that, too.
BPMΩ
Tale
Posted 12:19 PM 15/1/08
@Hiero Glyph: It's hard to see a spike in sales of the wii when the danged thing is always out of stock.
Tale
Hiero Glyph
Posted 12:18 PM 15/1/08
I think this settles it, I have no clue what gamers want in Japan. At least in North America whenever a high profile shooter is released the sales increase, but Japan has some of the most unusual trends it makes me laugh. No wonder the 360 is failing in that market, there is no way to predict what will sell. The fact that Final Fantasy and Wii Fit have seen the largest growth and yet have nothing to do with one another has me dumbfounded. Add to that the fact that a horrible Gundam game and Dynasty Warriors sequel #5,462 are system sellers and I just start to laugh. Then compare those horrid games to Super Mario Galaxy where you barely see an increase in sales. Have Japan's gamers all gone mad?
Hiero Glyph
nolifedopestar
Posted 12:16 PM 15/1/08
@Horsefly: i guess there weren't ridiculous marketing campaigns for it in japan. that or the japanese can just tell a mediocre shooter when they see one.
nolifedopestar
Moh
Posted 12:15 PM 15/1/08
Thanks for the analysis. X360 is doing much better than what the original Xbox did in Japan. Some rumors on the web say that Sony got some 20+ first party un-announced exclusives and 3 of them are coming from Japanese studios. If these exclusives make it on time for 2008 along all the good old money makers (MGS, FF, GT), PS3 will totally get the X360 out of the picture in Japan.
Moh
smitty1123
Posted 12:14 PM 15/1/08
@Horsefly: Eh. I'd rather play Ace Combat 6 than Halo 3.
smitty1123
Witzbold
Posted 12:11 PM 15/1/08
@zoesch: And that climb is where MS started to get their shit together. Fucking took them long enough. Since up until then they pretty much deserved that flat rating on the chart with how they were doing things.
Its a rather steep increase I must say though and thats a pretty good sign at least.
Witzbold
McWhertor
Posted 12:10 PM 15/1/08
@kingofallcosmos: It should, and was meant to appear in the PSP line chart. I've made a note of it in the explanatory paragraph. Thanks for the reminder!!
McWhertor
Horsefly
Posted 12:04 PM 15/1/08
Ugh, seeing the little anthill for Mario Galaxy next to Wii Fit's mountain... What the hell, Japan? And Ace Combat 6 as a system seller over Halo 3? Criminal.
I fully support anyone who wants to press charges against the nation of Japan. They can plead insanity if they want, so long as they're locked away I don't care which.
Horsefly
kingofallcosmos
Posted 12:01 PM 15/1/08
Couldn't the Crisis Core spike also be attributed to the simultaneous release of the PSP Slim? I know that I bought my second PSP shortly after the Slim redesign.
The PSP has a lot of great games, second only to the DS in all current gen systems, but I do also use the other features. I like keeping a few video files on my PSP because it has such a beautiful screen.
kingofallcosmos
zoesch
Posted 11:59 AM 15/1/08
@Witzbold: Err, yes and no... basically the graph says the 360 is staying almost flat in Japan with a slight increase in sales in the year's end. However is like the PS2, it's not dying but it isn't growing quickly either.
The casuals have always existed, some became hardcore some stayed casual, but the games catalog of the past 30 years has always catered towards casual gaming.
zoesch
frank0127
Posted 11:59 AM 15/1/08
proud to be a Nintendo fanboy. :)
frank0127
Wargamer234
Posted 11:59 AM 15/1/08
@Timsobuff74: Agreed,more Visual Novels and the like,and it could be better
The Fact is,that the Japanese love their Brands,Microsoft have never been famoust like here with then
Wargamer234
Ehardergardens
Posted 11:55 AM 15/1/08
@Avinash_Tyagi: Do you or anyone have the attachment charts broken down by timeline and console?
I'm really curious if they are what people say they are anecdotally. What are people using their psps and ps3s for? I play games first and use the media features second, but I do use them.
I've never had he problem of either of these devices doing more take away from games, but perhaps it does with others, which would make me sad as i don't want to lose either function and would happily see both areas expand. Although very vocal I suspect that I like many people that modded the xbox into a media server, are probably in the minority,
Ehardergardens
-HeyWowItsFelipe-
Posted 11:55 AM 15/1/08
@RPGr: funny, before i came in here i expected to see that comment as one of the first 3. Im suprised it took that long haha.
Nintendo murdered last year! Perhaps Microsoft lost this gen (and last..) in Japan, but i wouldnt knock it out for the next. I mean seriously, seeing how Nintendo did, anythings possible.
I can see a BIg spike in PS3 sales once Metal Gear Solid comes out. And a big spike for the Wii when Smash Brothers comes out.
-HeyWowItsFelipe-
nolifedopestar
Posted 11:52 AM 15/1/08
@theespacepope: it has more than 2 good games man, give some a try you'll have a blast
nolifedopestar
doomstalk
Posted 11:50 AM 15/1/08
@RPGr: The joke is a cliché.
doomstalk
ミスターX
Posted 11:49 AM 15/1/08
I highly thank you for the data. This will be useful for me down the road. :)
ミスターX
Witzbold
Posted 11:48 AM 15/1/08
@Timsobuff74: You do realize the sales are going in an upwards pattern for the 360 right? Or are you just so culturally inept to understand that perhaps the game library on the 360 just does not match up to the competition / tastes of the people, nor does it pull at the heartstrings of the casual market where most of the numbers lie.
Hardcore gamers here are a dying breed. Everyone seems to be switching to the more casual scene. Its not like the old days where riots would go about over games.
So most of the numbers attached to the 360 is those who are more interested in the "foreign" titles and what not. Whats helping the sales is the fact that MS managed to secure J developers to try to bring more of the standard crowd into the fold with market specific games / titles people would feel more comfortable / familiar with.
Witzbold
doomstalk
Posted 11:48 AM 15/1/08
When put into bar graph form, it becomes hard to not call the 360 irrelevant in Japan. But, at the same time, it seems hard to consider anything but the DS, Wii, or PSP relevant. The "top-tier" consoles just don't appear to be performing there.
doomstalk
RPGr
Posted 11:43 AM 15/1/08
The pie is a lie!
.... c'mon, someone has to say something like that
RPGr
TitillatedOcelot
Posted 11:42 AM 15/1/08
@theespacepope: In a lot of cases, they spend a good deal more time on public transit, really. Japan's transit system kicks ass.
TitillatedOcelot
Candlejack
Posted 11:42 AM 15/1/08
@theespacepope: Oh my, do you live in early 2006? I can't actually believe people still state the PS3 only has zero to five good games.
Candlejack
theespacepope
Posted 11:39 AM 15/1/08
The Xbox 360 has gotten to the point where people ask whether to buy that or a PS3 and I tell them a 360 but have to give a disclaimer about what to expect with regard to failures and replacement. But since the PS3 has two good games then there is no point in buying it as a game system at this time.
I wish i had as much time as people in Japan to enjoy handhelds.
theespacepope
Dp. [PSN: Fallible]
Posted 11:39 AM 15/1/08
@Avinash_Tyagi: Doesn't really mean much to be honest. Most people are waiting for that break out game that really appeals to them ala Final Fantasy or Metal Gear Solid.
I personally bought a DS Lite soon after release and haven't touched it since completing the New Super Mario Bros. Well, other than a brief week or two playing the new Pokemon.
Dp. [PSN: Fallible]
AlKusanagi
Posted 11:37 AM 15/1/08
Microsoft either doesn't care about Japan anymore, or they have truly incompetent people working for them here. I don't know how many times Japanese friends have asked why I own a 360 and as soon as I explain Live and all the online co-op, voice chat, ect. they become far more interested in it, yet all I've seen advertised in Japanese gaming media for Live has been the Arcade. If people were more aware of all the other features I think it could do a lot better.
AlKusanagi
Tonx
Posted 11:35 AM 15/1/08
@Timsobuff74: I could propose theories until the cows come home, but I think it comes down to asthetic differences in the film industry. America built their film industry on live film and sound stages, whereas Japan built theirs on cel animation. Japan's appetite for creative design, colourful landscapes, and surrealism is about as strong as America's appetite for photorealism. Each major design choice has a market in each country, but the XBox is a system (and a game library) designed certainly with the American asthetic, based in traditional film, in mind. Japanese audiences are fully capable of enjoying it and reveling in it, but I also remember a time when you couldn't watch anything animated in Japan without going to the one store in a city of a million people that sold it. Now the Japanese asthetic is all over the place. I think that the XBox has a future in Japan, but it's working tremendously hard to achieve it. Maybe next hardware cycle.
Tonx
Candlejack
Posted 11:34 AM 15/1/08
@Timsobuff74: People just don't like unreliable hardware, and it's getting through to the masses by now...everyone in my course even makes fun of it. Interestingly enough, all the people I know who currently own a 360 (and a Wii in some cases) are seriously moving away from it and saving up for a PS3. And not the "yea I'll buy it once" kind of saving. One's getting it by June, the other one when GTAIV launches, and so on and forth.
Candlejack
Avinash_Tyagi
Posted 11:32 AM 15/1/08
@Spoony:
Nope
[vgchartz.com]
Highest selling PS3 game placed 35th on the chart Minna no Golf 5 at 418,685, so PS3 had a dismal software year, in fact its software attach rate is terrible, almost PSP level bad
Avinash_Tyagi
Norellicus
Posted 11:31 AM 15/1/08
lol, Line Rider.
Norellicus
Overdosed
Posted 11:30 AM 15/1/08
I'm still surprised by the life left in the PS2, and high-profile games are still coming! I mean, Atlus announced Persona 4 for the PS2. High-profile over there, any way.
Overdosed
sascha23
Posted 11:30 AM 15/1/08
It will be cool to see where the PS3 is this time next year on the global pie charts.
Way to go PSP...some serious turnaround for the handheld.
S
sascha23
Spoony
Posted 11:29 AM 15/1/08
An interesting thing to note for the next Year is how many titles from japanese producers coming out on PS3 (exclusive or not) this will a huge year for PS3 in Japan.
Cause you have to remember even though big titles aren't exclusive they might as well be in Japan with as little saturation as the 360 has there.
Spoony
Tonx
Posted 11:26 AM 15/1/08
I'm glad that Nintendo's status as an enduring icon in the world of entertainment, especially in Japan, is alive and well. They are one of the most important Japanese companies in the last 50 or so years, to be fair.
Tonx
-EDGE-
Posted 11:25 AM 15/1/08
Look at that little PSP go, shine on little diamond, shine ON!
-EDGE-
uninterested gamer
Posted 11:25 AM 15/1/08
ps2 is doing better than xbox360. FOR SHAME!
uninterested gamer
Spoony
Posted 11:25 AM 15/1/08
I'm really interested to see a software sales chart not how it influenced consoles between the Wii and the PS3. Cuase i'm thinking with the exception of Wii Sports, Wii Play, and Wii Fit the PS3 releases sold better.
Spoony
Tale
Posted 11:24 AM 15/1/08
It's kind of sad that this may have been PSP's big year. I'd like to see it grow more. However, this article puts out a very solid argument.
Here's to hoping there's something unexpected on that front. Secret projects, new features with impact, etc.
Tale
Timsobuff74
Posted 11:23 AM 15/1/08
Why do Americans love the 360 while the Japanese seem to hate it? Too many FPS and not enough dating sims perhaps.
Timsobuff74
Irenicus-the one and only
Posted 11:22 AM 15/1/08
Nice to see the PS3 back on track :P It looked very, very bad for a moment.
The 360 is, well not worth mentioning, and the ps2, will this be the last year? Hmm. I wonder, how big was the differemce in numbers for the PS2 in 2006 compared to 2007 in Japan? I'm curious if anyone has that data.
Also, where is the spike for the PSP slim, like I can see FF and monster hunter and red psp, when was the psp slim released in Japan then?
Irenicus-the one and only
smitty1123
Posted 11:19 AM 15/1/08
Neat. And I don't care what anyone says, I'm excited for the US version of Dragon Quest Swords. But I'd be even more excited for a sequel to Skies of Arcadia...
smitty1123
plantationace
Posted 11:18 AM 15/1/08
I like pie.
plantationace
DigitalHero
Posted 11:13 AM 15/1/08
All sales charts must have pies from now on! ;)
DigitalHero
Witzbold
Posted 11:12 AM 15/1/08
Thanks for the data, its real nice being able to see a larger picture with all of these graphcs. Interesting stuff!
Witzbold
tocatl
Posted 11:12 AM 15/1/08
The yearly 3dbar chart is just obsene...
tocatl
Avinash_Tyagi
Posted 2:03 PM 15/1/08
@Ehardergardens:
I think you'd have to calculate that yourself on a weekly basis, i don't think anyone has done a week by week analysis of attach rates
Avinash_Tyagi
Saint Anima (PSN = PoeticMassacre)
Posted 2:02 PM 15/1/08
2008 shall be an interesting year. I'm hoping if some unannounced titles will pop out of anywhere that may help their system out. They can only go up!
Saint Anima (PSN = PoeticMassacre)
Dudemeister
Posted 1:58 PM 15/1/08
@Witzbold:
Poor Witz, You must be getting tired of reiterating about Japanese tastes every time we get a Japan sales chart. :/
As much as I understand and believe what you're saying, sometimes, I just feel like strangling them. Also how is Xbox advertisement doing over there? Explain about the system well or just dish out some random game preview and say "jump in"?
Dudemeister
vicviper99
Posted 1:43 PM 15/1/08
I'm curious if the hi-def format war has anything to do with console sales in Japan. I have heard from several sources that the Blu-Ray player in the PS3 is accounting for a significant amount of sales here in the US (I happen to know 3 non-gamers myself who have bought the PS3 for this reason alone). With Blu Ray as the apparent winner, I wonder if we'll see any surge in PS3 sales in Japan?
vicviper99
shiwasu
Posted 1:39 PM 15/1/08
Holy crap! @ Crisis Core and Ace Combat. lol @ deep red psp.
Now that I've gotten that out..
Really good breakdown. It'll be interesting to see the numbers come next year. I'm curious to see how SSBB, MGS4, GT5 and FF13 do (both software-wise and for their respective consoles) in Japan.
shiwasu
Fluffy22
Posted 1:11 PM 15/1/08
ps3 started the pick up sales since price drop, problem is Wii suddenly decided to take a huge jump too :P
And seeing what crisis core did to the PSP sales jsut imagine what FFXIII would do for ps3 lol
Fluffy22
Reilaos, Putting the Fun in Dysfunction!
Posted 1:10 PM 15/1/08
Wouldn't the PS3 be the PS2's little brother?
Reilaos, Putting the Fun in Dysfunction!
ARboom is now: mechakucha(XBL) and CaptainKillface(PSN)
Posted 1:09 PM 15/1/08
@Tonx:
That's a good theory. I never thought about it like that. That would explain why I love the games on 360 (the more cinematic the better) and find the Wii and it's "type" (bright and colorful) of game completely and utterly unappealing.
ARboom is now: mechakucha(XBL) and CaptainKillface(PSN)
2NinjasTapedTogether
Posted 1:05 PM 15/1/08
@RPGr: You jackass!
You beat me to it!
I'll never be the king of lame jokes around here... :(
2NinjasTapedTogether
RuneX
Posted 3:36 PM 15/1/08
@Timsobuff74:
Honestly, its hard to say why the PS3 is selling better than the 360 here. I mean, Ive been here for a few years now and own both consoles, have loads of japanese gamer friends and I still dont understand it.
The PS3 has a pretty poor lineup here in japan, we get far fewer games than the US does, and the exclusives we usually do get are usually not big sellers, even here.(Megaopolis(or whatever it was called) for example) In addition to that the games that are released on both are usualy better on the 360. Although its finally changing a little, the library for the 360 is without question, a lot better here than the PS3 library.
The only reasoning I can think of is a combination of namebrand, the PS2 playback(although with the 40GB, that has been eliminated), bluray, and maybe future potential. Even these are all stretches right now, but its about all I can think of. You really cant compare tastes here, as the 360 can match any titles in the PS3 library at the moment. The top sellers all have a counterpart on the 360(aside from maybe minna golf)
Basically, im betting that the analysts at MS are utterly baffled by the way the japaanese are taking hold of the consoles. Even my japanese friends who are die hard Pro PS3 fans dont know why they justified their purchase, just that they though it was the better to purchase.(I get into a lot of debates about it, although usually from a nuetral standpoint)Maybe its just a way of balancing out american sales, which leaves those wonderful euro's to determine the winner.
Anyways, nice charts, although I dont see anything I didnt really know.(ie. wii good, 360 bad)
RuneX
damon53
Posted 3:35 PM 15/1/08
awesome charts
damon53
Dudemeister
Posted 3:24 PM 15/1/08
@Witzbold:
Oh well that's good to hear. Hopefully there'll be more Japanese developers hopping on to 360.
Dudemeister
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
Posted 3:23 PM 15/1/08
@nolifedopestar: Quest 64 and the original Paper Mario?
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
McWhertor
Posted 2:59 PM 15/1/08
@Herodito: Advice is appreciated, but I was at the mercy of Google Docs. Forgive me?
McWhertor
bangbangblah
Posted 2:58 PM 15/1/08
I know this is like beating a dead horse, but I can't help but wonder what would happen if Sony released a FFVII remake for PS3. Considering how successful Crisis Core was, and the love affair with the original FFVII, I wouldn't doubt if that game alone pushed a few hundred thousand consoles.
bangbangblah
V I |Z U $!
Posted 2:52 PM 15/1/08
Wow! Great statistics. I only looked @ the pretty pictures..
V I |Z U $!
nolifedopestar
Posted 2:52 PM 15/1/08
@Avinash_Tyagi: don't be so sure, what RPGs did the N64 have vs. the one's coming to the ps3?
nolifedopestar
Herodito
Posted 2:49 PM 15/1/08
Great piece of info bro! Excellently done!
One piece of advice, Pie charts always need percentage values ;)
Herodito
Witzbold
Posted 2:42 PM 15/1/08
@Dudemeister: Adds are doing well for now, the usual are showing up in the famitsu mags. Sometimes a few pop on tv. But I think whats helping is the more positive word of mouth its been getting lately.
Although from my pov Im worried again since I think more studios need to announce more games for the 360 to keep the momentum going. Since Im seeing more adds for upcomming foreign games that domestic ones for the 360 asides from like DMC4 and such.
Witzbold
7ucky
Posted 2:14 PM 15/1/08
Wow - the world could've been a different place if Ace Combat 6 had continued it's Sony exclusivity...
Not that much different, though.
7ucky
Avinash_Tyagi
Posted 2:04 PM 15/1/08
@Dp. [PSN: Fallible]:
Yeah but it does indicate that PS3 will be unlikely to beat the N64 lifetime sales in japan
Avinash_Tyagi
baked ham
Posted 4:58 PM 15/1/08
OK, first person to make a line rider that looks exactly like the first picture gets a million dollars. And wherever the line rider first dies ... is evidence of... something...
baked ham
SwordandSorcery
Posted 4:48 PM 15/1/08
@SwordandSorcery:
"Sales of PS2 driven up by gamers realizing they can't play there ps2 games on them and are rushing back...
Sales of PS2 driven up by gamers realizing they can't play the PS2 games on the PS3 and are rushing back...
fixed
SwordandSorcery
SwordandSorcery
Posted 4:42 PM 15/1/08
Sales of PS2 driven up by gamers realizing they can't play there ps2 games on them and are rushing back since they traded the system in when they upgraded.
In other news all the trolls who called the death of the N with Wii and DS eat their shoes, socks and feet; onlookers applaud.
Also the once paralyzed 360 has shown some life and can move her whole hand now, doc's say full motor function is a strong possibilty!
back at eleven with sports
Stay classy Japan
SwordandSorcery
Superstar90 lieks mudkipz
Posted 2:33 PM 16/1/08
Lol, now if FF7 came to DS... Japan would implode. Seriously, considering the DS has better graphics than the PS1, it could definitely happen.
Superstar90 lieks mudkipz
PaulHunter
Posted 2:33 PM 16/1/08
As a long-time gamer it's great to finally see Nintendo back on top. I used to be a huge SNES fan, but my interested started to wane as Nintendo started to cater more and more to the younger crowd. The breaking point for me was when Mortal Kombat (my fav. game at the time) was altered to contain 'sweat' instead of blood. It was at that point that I was motivated to buy a Genesis for the true arcade experience. But after all these years Nintendo has finally got the market right - and I have to admit I'm loving my DS (and to a lesser degree the Wii).
Something about Nintendomination just feels right. :)
PaulHunter
WestSiidE
Posted 9:27 PM 15/1/08
Why OH Why are so many people buying a freaking DS?! As an alarm clock?? And what is SO damn great about the WII? Not a hypothetical question, can someone explain that to me? My 8 yr. old sister has one and yes i have played with it and I quite dont understand its popularity (unless you are a small child or new gamer). Nintendo is exactly what is wrong with the game industry as it has done nothing in the past decade (or since the snes if you asked me) to push the industry forward technology wise. I want to keep seeing games like Uncharted and COD4 pushing the envelope on in terms of physics, realism, graphics, interactivity and of course gameplay. Nintendo from what i see is doing neither of those things. As a matter of fact i believe theyre pushing the game industry backwards. Theyre games dont look better thans a freakin gamecube some even worse than a N64. Think about it. If not for Sony or Microsoft, Nintendo products would be the junk we'd be stuck with.
WestSiidE
bird1988
Posted 10:08 PM 15/1/08
Don't forget about PSP :] I bet Sony has some tricks up their sleeve for the portable and probably some title suprises
bird1988
zoesch
Posted 9:58 PM 15/1/08
@Witzbold: It is and it'd be great for the industry if they got their act together so Sony and Nintendo would have to compete harder. Unfortunately the thing that makes me wary of MS is their willingness to destroy their competition by any means necessary instead of through better products but that's another story and one I hope MS learned from.
zoesch
unhappymatt1
Posted 6:33 PM 16/1/08
You must be writing about Japanese sales of software because I'm pretty sure the 360 sold more software than the Wii and the PS3 combined.
unhappymatt1
charsuipau
Posted 3:35 AM 16/1/08
@PaulHunter:
Nintendo more and more cater to younger crowds... uh maybe its just you grew older and decided you didn't think games you played when you were younger were 'adult enough' to be played by you as you got older?
Nintendo has NEVER been a supporter of violent games, and ultra realistic games, which leaves them with the 'aimed at children' reputation which isn't entirely true.
My pet theory about this adult/kids games view especially in the West,is that its caused by a majority of western kids being actively prevented from watching/reading age restricted materials (usually involving lots of sexual themes, blood, volence and realistic combat) until they are at least 15 or even 18. Which instills in them the idea that unless it involves that kind of content, its not something an adult should play/enjoy... Where as in somewhere like Japan kids are less restricted from content like that, so less of them as they grow older associate playing games like Mario or similar games as 'child-only' since alot of them were probably exposed to violent/graphic comics and cartoons as a child (not necessarily movies).
To this day I still enjoy watching a bugs bunny cartoon as much as I enjoy watching a Exorcist-like movie... but thing is as a child I watched horror movies all the time... the first real horror movie I saw was Exorcist at the age of 7 anyway, and evil dead as well around that age... Evil dead what fun, Hail to the kingggg babyyy.... Oo and all the tales for the darkside episodes, watched all of those before I was even 12....
At the same time as watching loony toon cartoons, disney movies etc...
Probably why it annoys me to hear people with the views that basically infer that unless it has a MINIMUM 15+ age restriction on it its not a game an 'adult' can enjoy... or just targeted at kids...
Suduko has pretty much a E rating, and more adults play that than kids...
My 2 cents anyway...
And probably the reason why Japanese gamers taste are actually more DIVERSE than western gamers tastes... as opposed to Japanese gamers having weird taste( or lack of).
charsuipau
ARboom is now: mechakucha(XBL) and CaptainKillface(PSN)
Posted 11:33 PM 16/1/08
@charsuipau:
Nintendo has NEVER been a supporter of violent games, and ultra realistic games
The Exception Police would like to remind you of Eternal Darkness. They'll let you off with a warning this time, though, since almost nobody played it.
ARboom is now: mechakucha(XBL) and CaptainKillface(PSN)
Lordchris915
Posted 1:12 PM 16/1/08
The data really helps
I may convert my fanboy friends!
Currently my 2 Nintendo fanboy friends can be silenced by the words Metal Gear Solid (people have different tastes OK)but they have me at SSBB.
Mutual hatred for Xbox keeps the balence
Lordchris915
Herodito
Posted 1:33 AM 19/1/08
@McWhertor:
Hehehe, sorry for being such an ass.
But my line of work makes me jump on small things like this. Is a good advice though :P
Herodito