@thischarmingman: At long last, the home version of Police 911!

Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning

hey just cause miyamoto isn't doing a new ip doesn't mean that nintendo isn't! don't forget they bought the creators of Batien Katios.and plus they want to give 3rd parties a chance before they unleash all they've got. do u think miyamoto is not thinking of Pikmin? AC? of course he is, he prob has new stuff too as nintendo always make new IP for every console, go back and check. so sit back, relax cause everyone gets pissed and take stupid conclusions out of nowhere. :)

Andrezao

@ZerozakiIshiki: A steampunk Zelda game would rule. Item design would be so fresh, Hyrule Temple would look like a mechanics nightmare / engineers wet dream, and Link riding a horse would still play. I'm down!

Tonx

I really want a shooter or sword game where I have to dodge attacks by standing on the balance board and, well, LEANING. Think of how silly we'd all look!

thischarmingman

lol I love this picture of Shiggy

@Coffee Ninja: my first thought was GOJIRAAAAAAAAA!

klogg

@Ryumeka: Ryumeka - Queen of Trolls!

tme2nsb

@Ampillion : Now with 50% more LJ gaming blog.: The way he said it almost sounded like "it's too hard why bother". I don't think the criteria is difficult live up to as some might think. If Nintendo were to make a new IP. Do they need to re invent the wheel? No, just make a game that plays well, has a good story, etc.

There's no need for a drastic overhaul. Just enough to set it apart from other games. Let's use Dead Rising as a example. It's a game with zombies but is it a rip off of Resident Evil? If they had decided that some parasol corporation was behind the whole situation then yeah it would be. But did they?

Aflack: Likes slushies

@emag:

I don't necessarily want them replaced. I would much rather they not shoe-horn into every little chasm and hole Nintendo decides they need to plug.

Try something new. Have new characters playing Tiddly-Winks, rather than slapping Mario & Co. again.

PapaBear434

@mrantimatter: What do you mean? They tried changing Zelda up in Zelda II, fans didn't like it so they decided to stick with the original idea and formula. A lot of games suffered the "we messed up the original formula too much in our sequel" phase, that's why if they get it to work they don't change it up all that much.

Galaxy wasn't just a Mario 64 clone, that's just a generalization. It had similar game play elements, you know why? Because next to everyone bitched about Sunshine and praised and still do praise 64, it's a no brainer as to why Galaxy plays like 64. Also, Sunshine tried to give Mario a serious story, fans also hated this and they did away with that in Galaxy. Sure Mario has always been Save Princess Peach, but do you really play Mario to get a story?

Shaoko

@NotZed: Yeah, just look at the DK Bongos. I believe only the Donkey Konga games and DK Jungle Beat supported it.

Nintenboy01

You know what I want to see? A Star Fox reboot with Miyamoto's special touch. Keep Krystal, and bring back Peppy. And kill Slippy.

Or even better- an futuristic new IP in the vein of a Zelda/Metroid gameplay mashup.

blackadvent

I find it disturbing that they'd release a fairly expensive peripheral like the balance board with no concrete plans for providing any more software for it.

"how well it sells outside of japan"? So he doesn't expect anyone in Japan to want anything more for it?

NotZed

I don't think the basic gameplay of Zelda is the problem - although the execution could be finetuned a little. Phantom Hourglass was pretty good about making you use all the items all the time, but Twilight Princess is terrible at it, and has a bad habit of giving you rupees when it should be giving you pieces of heart.
What it really needs to do is ditch the tired Western Fantasy trappings.
I think they should start doing a Zelda Gaiden deal, setting games in other eras; alien worlds, steampunk or cyberpunk settings, the modern world - same basic gameplay, but change up the plots and atmosphere. As long as they avoid the temptation to give Link a gun, it might allow for some much needed variety.

ZerozakiIshiki

Needs more custom robo....

Superstar90 lieks mudkipz

@Aflack: Likes slushies: The problem is really creating something new that feels new, not something new that actually looks a lot like everything else. You could make a new zombie game, but it'll immediately be compared to the Resident Evils or Dead Rising, or maybe it's gameplay is compared to that of, oh, Dynasty Warriors. But just being unique doesn't exactly mean it's fun. So a good new game has to be both an entirely new concept, or just untouched enough that it feels like new, and have enough gameplay to make it fun enough to set it apart from other games.

I think perhaps he means it's just harder to come up with those new hits than it is to just borrow themes, ideas, genres, and whatnot. Which the gaming industry has proven time and again is true.

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@Heavyfuel: I honestly couldn't agree more. There have been more styles of gameplay introduced in the Zelda series than a ridiculous amount of FPSs released on any system.

Remaking the same thing but with NEW names/characters isn't "innovative."

I gladly welcome a new string of ideas/twists that Mr. Miyamoto can offer... (and maybe if they release a black Wii, I might finally get one)

Arttemis

Miyamoto - King of Rehashes

Ryumeka

@Heavyfuel: Ssssh! You're talking sense. I don't think the slow-witted posters in this thread will be able to keep up.

inphanta

Pikmin was successful even though it was a new IP back then, so I see no reason why a new IP would be a failure. Stick to one Mario and Zelda game per console generation and get some new IPs out there.

@CockroachMan:
Main Final Fantasy games share only in its numbered title and some general themes (like Chocobos and orphans) but the storylines and plots are completely different.

JonC

Ugh... if they're gonna do sequels, at least give us a new Luigi's Mansion. Or Pikmin. Or... something that's not tradition at this point. Obviously Mario and Zelda games are expected.

Gordraf

@emag: I've seen plenty of new IPs not called "gimmicks". Why exactly must a new creation be "generic and unappealing"? You're telling me that Pikmin was a fluke and this couldn't be recreated in any way?

Aflack: Likes slushies

@idrisz:

except that Nintendo has been the most innovative in terms of hardware by a very large margin this console war. Nice try though troll.

NeoAkira

@Krondonian: I believe that game was cancelled and swept under the rug...

Nintenboy01

@notalkjustrock: Yep, the "Nintendo Wars" series usually takes the name of whatever system it's on. Which is why it's kinda strange that the last two games weren't called "DS Wars" instead.

Nintenboy01

I want to know what the hell happened to Project H.A.M.M.E.R.

Why does no-one seem to remember it?

Krondonian

It looks like he's trying to eat that tiny girls cell phone.

Nyom nyom nyom!

ultimatepancakesensation

That man's face just doesn't make sense. There is no way a human being could actually have a face that looks like that.

miyamotoschin

People who say 'innovation' = 'new stories' are the dumbest

DrFresh

How about a new Pikmin . . . or, I don't know, a new bloody IP!

vanderblade

Today, I could go for a Chrono Trigger/ Zelda Mashup. Where we have a future Link that has to time travel, affecting the legend, so to speak.

Someone had to go put helpful items in the most ridiculous places . . .

Tubatic

@Nintenboy01: Damn, just read up on Famicon wars. Well, it's new to me!

notalkjustrock

@mrantimatter: More power to them. But honestly, does anyone buy Mario titles for the story? The in-depth plot? I mean think about it, what sort of odd-ball nonsense are you going to really get out of trying to make a whole new setting based around plumbers who eat mushrooms and stomp on turtles? It'd be like someone telling me they buy Katamari for it's deep character relationships. A game is supposed to be fun, and last I checked .... Yep, all those games? Still pretty fun.

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@PapaBear434: That's how I feel about all those FPSes clogging up the 360 game list (disclosure: I have a 360, DS, Wii, and PSP).

But you can't have it both ways: when company X releases a game in a well-established genre, it's blasted for being "lazy" or "the same old stuff", but when company X releases something entirely new and different, it's blasted for being a "gimmick".

Many (at least on Kotaku/Joystiq/GameFAQs) fault Nintendo for sticking with its mascots. But I, for one, see little point in retiring mascots and themes just because they've been popular in the past, only to replace them with with generic and unappealing new creations.

emag

@notalkjustrock: Weell, Advance Wars actually started out in the late 80's as Famicon Wars. But the other two, though original properties at first, did get very similar sequels of their own.

Nintenboy01

@Ampillion : Now with 50% more LJ gaming blog.: True, we buy them for the gameplay, but thats no excuse to endlessly rehash villans and settings. Insomniac has been really good at introducing new weapons, new characters, new settings, etc into the R&C universe. They even took the series online for a while.

mrantimatter

@PapaBear434: Nintendo plans to create a new original puzzle/platform series called "The Magnificent Olaf Cousins". It stars a pair of Norwegian Chimney Sweeps who fight the evil Snail King Dougan Sloopa in the lost Daffodil Kingdom.

Nintenboy01

@idrisz: I know that's what you meant, I was just correcting (nit-picking) about what you labeled it. I was making the point that no one uses a term like "Nintendo innovation" so it's not technically an oxymoron, even if they are a contradiction in terms. By the way, I always thought Nintendo was very innovative in design, just not original with IPs.

Erwin211

@PapaBear434: Like I said, most people buy it expecting something. To think that they buy it just because Shiggy made it, is total stupidity.

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Nintendo has recently created some new successful IPs in this decade. Advance Wars, Pikmin, Animal Crossing. You can't expect them to dump Mario or Zelda though.

notalkjustrock

@Wyld: We're talking about Shiggy here. The thing that I think a lot are missing is that this is Nintendo's number one guy. They're going to have him working on whatever they may want most changed, or most ready to keep them in the spotlight. Would you want your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning doing kickoffs? Or playing special teams coverage? No, you have him do what he does best.

So perhaps they're looking to keep Mario in the spotlight of the casual gamer. So perhaps they want the next Zelda to be something new, something that everyone can enjoy, to be that new favorite in the series. That's the point. You want your best guy making the best games that pull those casual users over towards the core side of things. Galaxy selling over 5 million has told them something at least, and that is they need to make more games that work for both the casual and the core gamer.

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@Aflack: Likes slushies:

You said it best right there.

PapaBear434

@Sabre_Justice:

Then why not simply make a new IP with a new storyline for it, rather than sticking Mario in it?

Answer: Because people see "Mario," and start opening their wallets in a Pavlovian response to Shiggy's manipulations.

PapaBear434

@Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor):

I don't play Ratchet and Clank, so I don't know. Most likely because that series isn't over twenty years old, though. Sure, it's derivative of each other. But they haven't been out for a young lifetime either.

PapaBear434

I would really like to see a new Starfox game... if ever a Nintendo franchise needed some love,its Starfox. The series hasn't been good since the last game Nintendo actually made themselves (SF64.) I hope nintendo doesn't hand Starfox over to yet another 3rd party developer... they really ruined it.

Procrasticritter

@mrantimatter: It's irrelevant. You buy platformer/adventure games because of the gameplay, weapons and settings are part of that. Characters? It's still Ratchet and Clank, there might be others, but it's still the same iconic. Plotlines? It's all still just a tool to push you into the gameplay. Sure, it might do a better job at storytelling, but that's why people buy it. Had Ratchet and Clank been a sales failure once or twice, it too would've been chucked to the side like a washed up old prostitute, but since it's still got some tread in the tires, you'll see it again! And again! And perhaps a third time.

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Want a new game from a new franchise by Nintendo? Start up bu not buying them. But I´m going to buy them, and you too, probably, so it´s a certain profit, and since companies like to profit (i dunno why...) they will keep making those.

But it woudn´t hurt to take some risk by investing a lot of money, in just one new game (just one dammit you guys make tons per year), with good marketing, etc, etc now and then... the biggest profits (and losses) comes form risk you know...

Sigh.

Wyld

@StrikerGold:
I wouldn't say Ninteno needs to flat out stop making these games. Insomniac still makes Ratchet but that didn't stop them from developing Resistance. It's when a compnay is only developing sequels that it becomes a problem for me.

Sony is still going to release sequels to God of War and GT. But they are also releasing Little Big Planet and Uncharted.

Nintendo can make Zelda 15, that's fine with me. But I want to see something else too.

Aflack: Likes slushies

@PapaBear434: I didn't mean to imply popularity when I said ratings. I meant actual reviewers reviewing the game. And I'm also trying to show people that Kotaku readers (who are probably a more diverse group of gamers than most others) voted it as game of the year. And these same readers are the ones that are complaining about another Mario game.
Sorry to hear it didn't feel new to you, for me it was the first 3D Mario game I played all the way through and didn't get bored of. I guess I don't look at Mario games as part of the Mario collection but as separate games. It wouldn't bug me if they called it Super Fred Galaxy as long as I still found it enjoyable. It's a platformer to me first and foremost, just the same way people see Halo 3 and Bioshock and and COD4 as FPS's, not as Halo rehashes.

Tiger-Fever

@Heavyfuel: The issue though is the differences in the genre. With a platformer, the action, the challenge is what you play the game for. The faces and the iconic are just there to sell the game to as many people as possible. With an RPG, the story elements are key. Most people don't play RPGs for their action gameplay (Or, at least, people who enjoy Final Fantasy-style turn-based RPGs.) but for their story, and Final Fantasy sells because it's got both the iconic and the story.

There is honestly no difference between a Final Fantasy and a Mario. They are a franchise. They do not just simply go away. They are around because they sell. If none of the previous Final Fantasy games were any good, or sold like crap, would they still be carrying the name? No. Same for Nintendo's franchises. Same for Halo. People expect something out of it, that's why they buy it. Producers keep making it, because they know it'll sell.

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About Miyamoto,LOL and he says they don´t want to exploits and saturate their franchises,but is logical,this franchises are their strongest and crucial sells softwares,interesting to know what is all about the future Wii Fit games

OT79

Hey, a lot of the Mario games barely have anything in common besides the title character, if Galaxy didn't have Mario you'd be praising it for innovation.

Sabre_Justice

@Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor): Each rachet and clank generaly breaks out new weapons, settings, characters, and plotlines. Most Mario or Zelda games follow the same overall plot, and many have the exact same items.

mrantimatter

@xot:
Yeah, it looks like he's ready to devour a wounded velociraptor that's fallen down just out of frame.

Destrudo

@Volcanux:
Reggie confirmed for Brawl!

MikeTheSpike

@Heavyfuel: The problem isn't direct sequals having the same gameplay, thats to be expected, it's that nintendo keeps slapping exhistang ip's onto new genres, instead of creating new ip's to match the new genre. Mario golf, mario strikers, mario kart, mario this, mario that, no innovation in design there.

Even their core francises don't really evolve much. Mario galaxy, as great as it was, is just mario 64 crossed with psychonaughts or rachet and clank style multi gravity. Zelda hasn't seen a major gameplay change since it went 3D.

Nintendo are amazing developers, they just need to use that creativity more.

mrantimatter

@Nintenboy01: Oh,you´re with me then,Rinoa is so hot!!!*o*

OT79

Quick! Somebody get Shiggy that giant burger in the other thread before he eats someone!

xot

@PapaBear434: Why isn't Rachet and Clank subject to the same criticism? Not only are all of those games functionally the same, but they even come out every year, unlike most Mario and Zelda games which come out 2 or 3 years apart.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

NEW FRANCHISE?! WHAT'S THAT?! HERESY!

DankPanties

@tocatl: Er...not bashing the Mario franchise (don't have a clue how you got that out of my post), just saying that I'll believe a Mario Galaxy sequel when I see it. And then I'll surely play it and love it.

supercrap

@Heavyfuel: After FFX I kinda quit playing the FF series too. I still think VI, VII and IX were the best. VIII had the most bizarre plot (but Rinoa sure is cute).

Nintenboy01

giant miyamoto is confirmed. Did he get some akira-like powers in this shot and take out a lot of downtown tokyo with an explosion of psychic abilities?

GMC

@PapaBear434:

I guess we have a fundamental difference of opinion as to what makes a game different. Your argument would support the contention that if you did a color pallette switch on the planets and named each character a different name, Mario Galaxy 2 would be more different than the difference between SMW and SM64.

I believe that changing and evolving gameplay and ways of approaching problems makes a game more innovative. I stopped playing FF partially because each is the same to me. Perhaps they've been better recently, but I don't see any one that had nearly the changes or innovation as an average Mario or Zelda title.

Heavyfuel

I would actually be very happy with a new Zelda, specially if it was for the DS.

If you think about it.. there are not really much Mario games.. most Mario games are just spin offs.. "REAL" Mario games are made 1 per console at max.. there are a lot more Final Fantasy and Megaman games..

CockroachMan

@Heavyfuel:
I love how people start off their pointless rants about nothing in particular with "I love how...".

Destrudo

F-Zeroooo, F-Zerooo
Even I can feel the power
When I think of you
I see no fear, feel no pain

Forever he will be my hero
(Better believe he knows the way)
And not just only for tonight

And now that I'm not just a dreamer
(And I know I got what he's got)
And not just only for tonight

Nintenboy01

Completely off topic:

Miyamotozilla be hungry for female flesh! "WARRGH!!"

Someone needs to photoshop Sony shirt on that lady..
--
On topic:

Gee. Miyamoto doing sequels to already existing franchises. I'd of never guessed.. though you won't hear me complain. I look forward to seeing a Galaxy sequel and what he has in store for the next installment of Zelda.

Xehirut

I agree with most people. I want a Pikmin Wii game. It's like they had Pikmin in mind when they designed the Wii, so why have we not seen something along those lines?

And speaking of sequels, how about a new FZero & WHERE'S MY PILOTWIINGS?!! (I'm looking at you Factor5)

...and yes, I said Pilotwiings.

dhurken7

@Volcanux: that does look like him. He's probably taking names.

teh_joe

We need more Star Fox love.

And no, I'm no furry

Fulgurator

@tocatl:

Because at least with Final Fantasy, each one is different. Yes, they all have similar aspects, like chocobos and big swords and airships. But each one is different. It's always a new universe, a new reality, filled with all new characters and new story lines.

The only things changing in Mario is what he has to collect to save the Princess. Stars, goomba scalps, whatever. It's always the same thing.

Galaxy, planet jumping aside, still felt like the same game. Wind Waker, as pretty as it was and how fun it was to sail around, still felt like the same plot from OAT.

PapaBear434

@PapaBear434: You are correct popularity does not equal quality, but new doesn't always (rarely?) means good. There are hordes of IPs by Sony, Sega, Capcom and many others that are lining the game graveyards were either critically acclaimed and sold poorly, or just out right sucked (Bubsy?).

The Mario and Zelda franchises are *expected* to have familiarity, otherwise they wouldn't still be popular 20 years later. Until the demand for new IPs outweighs the demand for more Mario by a wide margin, and until they begin to outright suck (you don't see people clamoring for more Spyro or Crash Bandicoot, do you?), the plumber is just going to keep coming.

I have similar criticisms of feeling like I've played the same game before for the most recent iterations of GTA, Final Fantasy, MGS, Ratchet, Halo. They're excellent games, but they've been done. Yet few fans of these games are going to say "we've had enough, don't make another."

StrikerGold

@tocatl:

See the thing with Final fantasy is that they are offering a lot more difference in gameplay options and story between each sequel than Mario. Mario hasn't changed very much since Mario 64, and the story has been almost nonexistent since the introduction of the series. People want something more from the series, and we know miyamoto is capable of it.

I'm on the Pikmin 3 bandwagon. My little flower demons must feast on the bodies of giant ladybugs and spiders. THEY THIRST FOR BLOOD.

CaptLtrl

the only reason to buy new metroid games is just to see what nutty rationalized bullshit storyline excuse they make to revoke all of your special powers at the beginning

Xamot

true about 2 mario games on 1 platform but tht wod be insane

adillio94

Wait, what? TWO Mario platformer games on a console? I don't believe it.

multimoog

Imagine this tony hawk skateboard game on the wii
using the balance board
wicked

adillio94

I love how people think that old IP equals no new ideas and new IP equals new ideas. Gameplay has seen more innovation from Mario and Zelda than from most other IPs combined.

Just because a game has a familiar name in the title doesn't mean it doesn't contain more new ideas than first-time IPs.

Heavyfuel

Cause you know, why should Nintendo try and create a new IP? (Wii Sports/Fit doesn't count. At least to me.)

Mini-Boss

@Erwin211:

actually I mean exactly what I said, as in nintendo and innovation are "contradiction in terms".

idrisz

So long as they make a quality new zelda I'd be happy. I'm glad that they're supporting the Wii fit board too since I'd find it annoying if they kept releasing barely supported peripherals.

-Sigil-

@nikolaj:@sadkermit: Supposedly the next Zelda game is going to be a reinvention of the series. At least, that's what the rumor is.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

@supercrap: I dont see why the bashing of mario franchise, FF series had more games and no one complains...

tocatl

Moto needs to helm a new Zelda, not that I don't enjoy anything after OoT. But you can surely tell that there's something missing from Zelda without him at the helm.

Maybe he'll try a first person Zelda now....since it's been in his thoughts before.

sadkermit

"We're, like, so innovative, dude. We are miles ahead of everyone else. That's why we just fall back on the same old games you've been playing since the 80s." - Nintendo.

iamnotdryad

@idrisz: No. I think you mean incompatable.
An oxymoron are two words normally associated that are opposites, like "jumbo shrimp" or "military intelligence."
[www.oxymoronlist.com]

Erwin211

I would greatly appreciate a Twilight princess sequel in the same vein of originality of Majora's Mask; so this news brings me great hopes.

wooduck51

Maybe they'll make a Kid Icarus game or a brand new DK game. One can only hope.

Phlycheez

@ncsbert: Sequels used to be big with Nintendo, but lately they seem to be more interested in what I'd call 'chapters'. The difference between the last four Advance Wars games would qualify as 'sequels' - or Fire Emblem or the last three Metroid games. But I'd say that the most recent Mario games have been new 'chapters' in old franchises. Same with StarFox, Kirby, Zelda (DS especially), and even Pokemon (Mystery Dungeon/Trozei/Ranger).

Besides - when have you ever known Shiggy to make a capital 's' "Sequel"?

Tonx

@Tiger-Fever:

American Idol is also the best rated show in America these days, even seven years after. It doesn't mean it's the best show ever to exist. It just means that most people are easy to entertain and they love familiarity. They fear change and new things, and they would rather stick with the same old crap.

Not taking away from the quality of SMG. I've played it, and it's interesting. But despite the orb-gravity gameplay, I can't help but feel like I played this game a million times already.

PapaBear434

Mario galaxy.....sequel? I don't buy it. 3-d Mario games come out every 5 years, and they always throw out the previous concept. How many Gamecube Mario games were promised but never made? 3? 4?

supercrap

@Krytha:

Retro Studios said that they're taking a break from Samus for a little while.

[kotaku.com]

I look forward to another Zelda title, in the same vein as Twilight Princess. Hell, even another Wind Waker-esque title would be great. Or re-releasing Wind Waker with the Wii mote controls and some 16 x 9 screen ratio ... oh baby.

dead_red_eyes

Good Lord that man is huge, looks like a Godzilla sequel in the making >:O

Coffee Ninja

@noesmano: Cloverfield game confirmed!

Erwin211

I always knew Miyamoto would champion the Board as an interesting peripheral for titles other than Fit. But its unlikely that any companies other than Nintendo are going to produce anything of quality for the Board.

EA might be able to do an SSX game, Ubisoft will certainly try, but they are really hit and miss. Maybe Capcom or Atlus. Konami adapting DDR for the Board is possible.

If even half of these companies manage to pull anything off, the board will be worth the purchase.

StrikerGold

Why is nintendo so hesitant to make new francisis that aren't based on a gimick, or a minigame collection? Sony and MS don't seem to have this problem, with both pushing quite a few new IP's each generation.

Nintendo though, seems to rely solely on current characters in new settings. Boggles the mind.

mrantimatter

innovation and nintendo is like an oxymoron.

idrisz

@sugardeath: Damn, beaten to it.

WallaJoy- I has a bucket.

Wow... Mini-games for a bathroom scale and a bunch of games that have been done a million times before.

Tell you what, Miyamoto, the only sequel I want to see form you is Pikmin. Get that? Pikmin. That's it. Not another Mario, or another Zelda, or whatever. If you TRULY have to get the sequel bug out of your head, make that.

Otherwise, try something new. Something that doesn't include the same old crap year after year.

PapaBear434

in before everyone starts complaining about Mario and Zelda. Points to reviews for SMG and the general consensus thst everyone loved it.

Tiger-Fever

Needs more Pikmin Wii.

WallaJoy- I has a bucket.

Nintendo is Japanese for "sequel"

I'm not sure I mind though. Anything Shiggy touches turns to solid gold.

Minus Nintendogs... did not understand that one.

ncsbert

Wh...wait... the same day that announced that the Wii had Smash Bros as a 'launch title', wasn't in announced that Miyamoto was working on an entirely new IP? (For launch?)
Or am I mixing quotes?
In any event - Zelda could use some Miyamoto-ing. Not that I don't like the series, but looking at the innovation in the existing Nintendo franchises lately, I would say that Zelda is the one that needs the biggest dose of help to make it more about Legend of Zelda and less about the Legend of Zelda formula.

Tonx

@noesmano: lol not till you just mentioned it right now.

y2julio

Sigh... Innovation is supposed to be what the wii's all about, yet the games' storylines are older than most of the kids who own one.
Hey, I like Zelda as much as the next person, but there's a limit to how many times I can play thesame game.

nikolaj

MOAR PIKMIN PLX

sugardeath

Yay, more sequels and more Wiifit junk! Just what we need.

But more importantly, does this picture look like a giant miyamoto descending from his lofty perch about to devour some tiny people?

noesmano

God that picture scares me.

I wonder what new IPs Nintendo is working on internally. There has to be something going on.

egyptomix

Yay! Sequels!
The most interesting part of the interview, In my opinion:

"Nintendo plans to make it so that you'll be able to use your DS to do a number of interesting things in public spaces"

Yay! Sounds Nasty!

Fulgurator

Eh, I'll wait until the balance board comes with "Link's snowboard training" before picking one up.

Kilian

Totally off-topic, but is that Reggie in the background of the image?

Volcanux

HE'S GONNA EAT HER!!!

featherblade360

DK? Metroid? These franchises are languishing with criminal under-use.

Krytha

It prints...money!

comradestalin

Who would have thought they would be doing the same old stuff they allways do?

justjake

@NeoAkira: That's just it. How do we know they're being ignored at all? How do we know they're not already in the works by someone else? Just because Shiggy himself isn't running the helm doesn't necessarily mean they can't make a game, and make it good. Hell, I'm almost betting Shiggy is only going back to those two games one more time because he's getting close to calling it quits, and wants to end things by leaving behind two great games for two great franchises. He ain't no spring chicken. We'd never know, cause Nintendo keeps the cards close to it's chest.

@Aflack: Likes slushies: No. But the thing is now, if you make anything nearly similar, regardless of it being a good game, it'll always be 'Oh, it's like X game'. What I'm saying is that it's a lot harder to make a game that you can't say isn't even slightly derivative of something else. The goal then, is to make games that are the least comparable to anything that comes to mind. Everything borrows a little of something from something else, even if entirely by accident.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel, just make up a new use for it, not just repaint the rims. Unfortunately, the industry gets stuck in ruts quite often, so you never know when someone will break out of the mold and make something new, or jump on the bandwagon of crapping out another FPS, mini-game collection, uninteresting RPG, or resource-farming RTS.

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Another note. I am also in for an Advance Wars Wii game.. An actual advance wars, and not Battalion Wars. I would also like to see another F-Zero, as I loved the one for the Gamecube.

Dennen

Howsabout the man announces the final ending for the Zelda Franchise. Not so much an end to the series, but a telling of how it ends.

I have long been in favor of a trilogy of Zelda games that jumps time. We all know that the triforce of courage has always been the symbol of the current-time Link in every Zelda story. So it all revolves around the Triforce piece playing as Links very essence. I say they go all Alternate Universe with it where there are no guns. Start it off as an epic finale between Ganondorf and Link. Ganondorf is beaten but reveals he has learned the secret of his inevitable reincarnation. So thus, link begins training his own family line to battle evil. Thus a great deal of years later, Hyrule would look much different than it ever has been in any other Zelda game. Ganondorf returns and the next in line is sent to battle him with newer power to effectively destroy him rather than Banish him.

The finality of the trilogy being the final end of Ganondorf in a futuristic Hyrule setting. Again, still without guns and all that - as that would destroy the feel of Zelda I believe.

Anyway. I am just a rambling madman. But I just wish that they would do that with the Zelda series. Future Zelda games could go further in depth with what was done, the family traditions, why so many of the people of this lineage were misplaced, etc etc. Piece together all the puzzles.

As for future projects. I'd rather have a Pikmin Wii than a new Super Mario Galaxy. But that's just me.

Dennen

@Volcan:

"After Miyamoto finishes working on Wii Fit (that you've been accusing Nintendo of neglecting you because of) he decides to work on two of the greatest franchises in video game history."

I think the problem is that those two franchises have both been made into a new game already, while franchises that are just as deserving like Star Fox, F-Zero, Pikmin, and others are being ignored for those two.

NeoAkira

If the WiiBoard is popular in the states, then Nintendo HAS TO make games for it. I can't see third-party developers getting near that thing, unless it's some WiiFit clone, which will automatically tank.

boopadoo

I could use some Fox McCloud on Wii right about now!
(Yeah, I need a sequel)

phextin

It balances... chequebooks!

acrnym

Let me get this straight.

After Miyamoto finishes working on Wii Fit (that you've been accusing Nintendo of neglecting you because of) he decides to work on two of the greatest franchises in video game history.

Upon learning about this you ignore the fact that Nintendo does make new IPs, claim that Mario Kart is the same as Super Mario Bros. just because it has Mario in it, act like sequels are the new AIDS, say that a game can't be different if it's in the same franchise, think that working on a franchise that millions of people love means that you have no creativity, and somehow manage to do this enough to fill an entire page of comments.

Can someone please tell me who sent all the suscribers to Extreme Pessimism Weekly a link to Kotaku and where the hell all of the gamers went? Because this is just pathetic

Volcan

This is bullshit. I used to respect Miyamoto but since Pikmin I don't think he's produced a single new IP.

@Arttemis: fishing and snowboarding segments do NOT COUNT AS NOVEL STYLES OF GAMEPLAY. Unless the combat system's revamped or polished to bleeding edge, or exploration is taken to new dimensions with flying magic carpets or PoP styled time rewinding, don't talk to me about novel styles of gameplay. Zelda is Zelda, and there hasn't been a major update since OoT.

Gunhaver

Give me Galaxy 2, but with more freedom, exploration and secrets.

Booji-Boy

Halo 4 confirmed! Great work on the innovation Microsoft!

/sarcasm

StocDred

@MikeTheSpike: Thank you so much! Made my day :)

PeterPanDude

The reason they make the Marios and Zeldas is because millions of gamers (including myself) want more.

Americana

maybe they should come up with something original

fragdurarsh

@Volcanux:

Could be, sure looks like him.

Darth_X

Besides, when companies DO try and make new things, they get thrashed for it. See Sonic. New gameplay styles, new characters, and what did they get?

Sabre_Justice

@PapaBear434: And the game is good too. Win-win, doncha think?

Sabre_Justice

@Dennen: Pretty neat idea.

For a year or so, i've been playing around with the idea of how neat it would be to have a Zelda game where you play as Ganon. He keeps coming back so obviously the story of the hero of time needs a villain to play off of.

At the end of the game you'd fight link, but ultimately lose, setting things right in history once again

Atomicvege

I love how people talk about Nintendo doesn't have innovation while they play Halo 3, COD4, MGS4, FF13, etc. Whatever, Nintendo's technology and gameplay innovations far outway any other video game company. Haters.

Sintariot

@Ampillion : Now with 50% more LJ gaming blog.: You sir are completely right. Thank you. That is all.

Jenstar: The O.C. Nintendo Representative

Yeah, like you people aren't going to run out and buy the new Mario and Zelda games at launch. That's because Mario and Zelda games are some of the best games ever made.

Roto13

@mrantimatter: Um, Nintendo are pushing out a number of major new franchises.

Wii Sports: new franchise.
Wii Fit: new franchise.
Wii Music: new franchise.

Wii Play: okay this is not a new franchise so much as a convenient excuse to charge slightly more for an extra remote, so let's not really include this one.

Now these may not be the type of games you personally like but they are entirely new, and they're not minor titles - all three have sold a million, or (in the latter case) will do. There might be more on other consoles but it's not true that Nintendo only make sequels.

Anyway if you look at sequels Nintendo have released over the last year or so - Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3 (ok second-party not Nintendo itself), Mario Galaxy - I'll definitely take Nintendo's sequels over any other company's original IP.

quen

People, people, I think we need to get our message straight here. We can't complain that Nintendo only ever does casual games anymore and has forgotten about their true, old-school fans, only to complain that Nintendo solely does rehashes of their old games a few posts later. Makes us look inconsistent!

L_K_M