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SSBB Bug Confirmed?
Posted by Brian Ashcraft at 3:20 PM on January 29, 2008
Earlier, we brought news of a minor Super Smash Bros. Brawl bug. The screen goes black and displays an error message that the game cannot be booted. However, the bug doesn't actually effect the game and can be ignored. Another retail-minded site Game no Urabanashi confirms this rumour, point out that the error message occurs when the game is first started up. Game no Urabanashi doesn't see the bug as a huge problem, but does point out that it could be an issue if not all customers are aware of it. The Nintendo flier that stores will apparently be giving out has popped up online. This looks like pretty good confirmation, but we're still going to call this a rumour until we're able to verify for ourselves when SSBB drops this Thursday in Japan.
For a game that's been delayed repeatedly, this seems, well, pretty shitty. If this is true, why is Nintendo, known for its impeccable quality, willing to ship its biggest title with a bug? Then again, Paper Mario had a bug and the DS Lite had hinge cracks, so. One thing you can bet, Nintendo would've never shipped Wii Fit with a bug. No way in hell.
SSBB Bug [Game no Urabanashi Thanks, Muu!]

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Roflcopter_Down
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Two more days... two more days...
Roflcopter_Down
izarate
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
If I got my facts straight the problem is that some feature of SSBB require functionality that came in a Wii firmware upgrade some time ago. The error here is that the game shipped without the firmware upgrade included in the disc to apply it automatically once you load the game the first time. I don't think that it's an actual bug in the game code.
izarate
altgod
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@EnigmaNemesis:
And some will brutally fuck you in the ass after 40 hours of gameplay (thank you Twilight Princess).
altgod
foxuser17
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
I found it strange not to see in Luigi in the intro,well,i guess it will be an unlockable character for the 3rd time
foxuser17
GUY_JIN
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@Gloibin: [www.wiiwii.tv]
Basically, in the Euro version, if you don't pick up a key a character points you towards, the game freezes.
GUY_JIN
Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
If it doesn't affect the gameplay in any way, who really cares? Either way, I'm sure it'll be fixed by by the North American release.
Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)
foxuser17
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@zerbrechen: OMFG! JESUSCHRIST.
Marth,confirmed. 1:47
Thank you very much.
foxuser17
Rocci1212
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
I love the unnecessary but completely justified hating of Wii Fit in this post.
Rocci1212
dynendal
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Honestly? I wouldn't blame the devs, I'd blame their QA.
But then a bug is just a bug and for a game the size that SSBB this is totally understandable.
dynendal
jaymac
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
The intro is pretty cool. Unlike the previous games, it actually shows relation and teamwork between the various characters.
jaymac
Psychtaygar
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
It sounds like it only says it once when you update your system, and then it doesn't happen again. Which isn't really that bad. Though, I agree that people will freak out. Hopefully it wont happen in the US.
Psychtaygar
tocatl
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@metadae: Maybe ASH is like many other ssb core fans that are angry because the game had many delays...
tocatl
Sabre_Justice
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
I've found a bug in Corruption, where Dark Samus freezes and refuses to die. Had to commit suicide to finish the fight.
They'd better damn have this fixed by release. Thursday? Man... EUROPEAN RELEASE DATE YOU STUPID FUCKS AT NINTENDO ARGH$*@#R@#RWY#*$HF^W#*$%FGW*%FW*$%FYW*%YHNWF*(#%^GH*(W&%*(#&$Y%GJ*(W#%$G
Sabre_Justice
smitty1123
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Meh. As much as I hate it, software updates on consoles are slowly becoming the rule rather than the exception.
smitty1123
darthmole12
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@zerbrechen: Nice!
WTB Ganondorf though :(
darthmole12
zerbrechen
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@Jaymac: It's starts with "G" and rhymes with "amefaqs"... Please, don't force me to say anymore, shame coarses through my veins...
zerbrechen
jaymac
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@zerbrechen: Eh, nevermind about the video, it was in the previous Kotaku post. I swear, that wasn't there earlier, haha.
jaymac
onidavin
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Honestly, that's kind of pathetic given how long this game was in development. Perhaps it was a bug in the actual "printing" of the game, where some shitty corrupted snag got in?
onidavin
Shteve
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@zerbrechen:
Wow thanks for the video ! Ness and Marth are in !
Shteve
jaymac
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
@ZeroTheFool: Yeah, after delaying it so many times, you'd expect the game to be in prestine condition. Hm, maybe this is why the US got a longer delay then Japan, to fix it.
@zerbrechen: NICE! How'd you hear about this video? Randomly searched it out of curiosity?
jaymac
Janaff
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
I was reading about this earlier, and I don't think its a bug in the game, just a warning/help message for the firmware update that comes with it. (in case it doesn't work or something) The same thing came with Super Mario Galaxy.
Janaff
Konatsu
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
There was a bug in Mario Galaxy... You had to ground-pound it three times to defeat it and get the star.
Not that kind of bug? Oops.
Konatsu
ZerozakiIshiki
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
The sign says you need to update the system before you can play it, but the bug occurs the first time you try to play. It will not occur a second time if you follow the instructions below...which are cut off the image above. Helpful!
ZerozakiIshiki
jaymac
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
New trend? First Microsoft going through with the hardware defective 360's at launch, now this?
jaymac
metadae
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Do I detect a hint of bitterness in this post?
metadae
Gloibin
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Just out of curiosity, and to justify my avatar, what was the bug in Paper Mario?
Gloibin
ZeroTheFool
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Why is it being released? Because they where afraid fans would raid the development center if another delay was announced. The one-month delay for the US version is starting to make more sense.
ZeroTheFool
zerbrechen
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Hmm, I heard that it was just something to do with a system update, but if it isn't... Well, that sucks.
Oh, and [www.youtube.com]
zerbrechen
EnigmaNemesis
Posted 3:53 PM 29/1/08
Some bugs are squishy and some are crunchy!
EnigmaNemesis
Mokai
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@zerbrechen: Yay for Marth. But I'll still be using Ness, anyway. >.>;
Mokai
Mezodon
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
Pretty lowsy that reading comments in a post about a bug give me the spoilers from the intro video post which I chose to skip.
Mezodon
Lackshmana
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@dynendal:
Why would you blame their QA?
Do you know for a fact that they didn't find this issue?
Games ship with Showstopper bugs that were found and reported by QA all the time.
Also, if the game doesn't play correctly out of the box, then yes it IS a bug. From what I understand you get an error message, NOT an update message that then leads you to an update. And if that is the case, then it is a bug.
Lackshmana
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@Brian Ashcraft: Touché.
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
Rhonlore
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
Guys.. it's a firmware update. NOT a bug. At least I'm convinced it is. I recall MP3:C having me install new firmware as well.
Rhonlore
Brian Ashcraft
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning:
I like how you think I have an image of the back.
Brian Ashcraft
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
I like how you posted an image that says, "instructions to solve this problem are on the back," and don't post the image of the back.
Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning
TalKeaton
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@Aiwokote: It wasn't anything unexpected.
TalKeaton
muu
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
@Janaff: Sounds like it from what I've read about this. Makes you wonder why they can't get the same bug squashed though, even if it's something that can only happen once during the life of your console.
muu
Aiwokote
Posted 4:54 PM 29/1/08
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smash related nes. Character leak!!! And a big one!!!!!
SPOILERS Watch out!!!
[brawlcentral.com]
Aiwokote
D00mM4r1n3
Posted 5:54 PM 29/1/08
This is not a bug with SSBB, it sounds like a bug with the older Wii firmware not knowing what to do with a game that requires the newest Wii firmware. If I read the article correctly, an update of the Wii should resolve the issue. I hope this "feature" (see what I did there) prevents modders from being able to play the game.
D00mM4r1n3
Waka in Japan
Posted 5:54 PM 29/1/08
the guy in 2ch keeps updating once in a while, so far, captain falcon is not confirmed yet as an unlockable
Waka in Japan
wild_world_girl
Posted 5:54 PM 29/1/08
@DYNENDAL
The buck always stops with the devs, no matter what's going on (or not going on) in QA.
wild_world_girl
sakuma_san
Posted 5:54 PM 29/1/08
Since this is still a rumour, furthur speculation seems to imply that this is a bug that happens with all Wii games when a Wii System Upgrade is required and it fails. So it's not the game, as much as the system itself running into problems.
sakuma_san
einlander
Posted 7:53 PM 29/1/08
Welcome To the game Nintendo. So you finaly decided to actually use firmware updates eh? Seems like you have much to learn about firmware. The PS3 and 360 does it. Hell the psp does it, so why is it just now that your making people update? Also I hope that the game comes with the firmware update otherwise you are SOL if you dont have the internet.
einlander
VakeroRokero
Posted 7:53 PM 29/1/08
bug? sounds like a anti-piracy check, and many games carry the updates inside the disc so unless you are one of those "my wii has been gathering dust for a year" you are ok.
VakeroRokero
quen
Posted 10:53 PM 29/1/08
One thing you can bet, Nintendo would've never shipped Wii Fit with a bug. No way in hell.
I'm pretty certain they actually did ship it with a bug... all software ships with bugs. Just the way it works.
I agree they probably didn't ship it with a serious known bug - but I'd also be willing to bet this SSBB bug isn't really *that* critical (alarming for users who hit it, yes, but not fatal and how many people haven't got the newer firmware by now)... and also that it wasn't known much before shipping. (Wonder if they didn't have a test lab of Wiis with every firmware version? You'd have thought they did...)
quen
Ra_on_the_Moon
Posted 10:53 PM 29/1/08
Moms everywhere will freak at this kind of bug.
Ra_on_the_Moon
jmb8504
Posted 10:53 PM 29/1/08
@EnigmaNemesis:
Ok, I laughed way to hard at that.
jmb8504
txgb324
Posted 10:53 PM 29/1/08
@einlander: Are you high? Or just trolling? There have been a number of firmware upgrades for the Wii, available as downloads thru WiiConnect24 or included on discs that require them.
txgb324
bugashi
Posted 2:53 AM 30/1/08
As far as I'm concerned, this isn't a bug. IMO, it's the same as the firmware check/update thing that happens when you first run MP3:C and U R MR GAY (hey, the way Mario sounds and how every game ends, he is Mr Gay). Don't know for sure if the update was available on those disks, but it would help those without broadband net access.
However, if the problem lays within the way it checks the firmware, or in the launch of the firmware update application, then it could very well be a programing error... a.k.a. a bug.
bugashi
Foxstar Sixtail
Posted 2:53 AM 30/1/08
@einlander: Banhammer, launched.
Foxstar Sixtail
Laser_iCE
Posted 2:53 AM 30/1/08
As far as I'm concerned, 99% of people who buy this game will have bought Super Mario Galaxy which updated the firmware anyway.
Laser_iCE
Jaiden
Posted 2:53 AM 30/1/08
"the error message occurs when the game is first started up on consoles that haven't been updated since last summer."
Sometimes I wonder why... People get so hyped up! OBVIOUSLY your going to get an error if you don't update! It even said it in the Super Mario Galaxy Manual: "Please note that when first loading the Game Disk into the Wii console, the Wii will check if you have the latest system menu.."
So to solve the issue? SYSTEM UPDATE.
Jaiden
einlander
Posted 9:01 AM 30/1/08
hmm seem thhat i was wrog and that i must apologize, sorry
einlander
dynendal
Posted 9:01 AM 30/1/08
@wild_world_girl: I've worked in QA. Part of QA's job is to notify the development team of the real importance of some bugs through clear and concise description. It sounds like there was an error in transmission here.
dynendal
Backward_Z
Posted 9:01 AM 30/1/08
The bug doesn't AFFECT the game.
Aren't there editors here?
Backward_Z
scarshapedstar
Posted 9:01 AM 30/1/08
So to recap. The bug doesn't stop the game from loading. It displays a screen telling you to update your Wii, and it's right.
Clearly, Nintendo has lost its tough. Hindenberg, Titanic, etc.
scarshapedstar