Am I the only one not surprised by this? I mean this is Super Smash we're talking about. ONLINE super smash. The first night of online super smash im sure 90% of japan is trying to play. Of course its gonna be hard to play online.

I'm absolutely sure the problem will go away once everyone got a chance to play it online and moved on with their lives.

Kiden4911

I had a problem getting onto the Wii Shopping channel about 50% of the time, but I could get onto the internet and the Everybody Votes channel just fine. Then I read on the internet that if that happens, change the router channel to 1 or 11 and that fixed everything for me. Hope this helps. We wanna see online pics!

toiletbowl

I've always wondered, do you connect through a Nintendo Connection? If so, maybe the game just broke their servers.

Whyspir

From the leaked videos it looks like online works just fine right off the box

it could be your connection

Xenon

I still get a chuckle when I see friends codes. It feels so ICQish to me.

ssjmichael

Online play works great for me!
Let's rock!

3866 7219 2468

-Alex

Gameboy415

Brawl's online mode is more robust with friends...which is where it matters anyway, so I'm good.

Although, voice chat is sadly missing. WHY!?!?!?

thereturnoftheufo

@thereturnoftheufo:
Does the word "tips" mean anything to you?

Brian Ashcraft

meh... without the rank matching, voice chat, and custom settings that are standard in most online games today, I'm not expecting too much from Brawl's online mode. I cant be guaranteed that items are turned off, cant guarantee that i wont be playing on the more gimmicky stages, and I'm pretty sure we cant customize random games to be 1v1, so competitive play is pretty much out the window.

That being said, I cant wait for the US launch and besides, Brawl is best played in front of one TV with a bunch of friends anyways.

CeeJay005

By the way guys! Here are the ending videos to the SSE if you want to see them. I saw them, pretty freaking EPIC. Sakurai did a good job on his first serious story for Smash.

First part:
[youtube.com]
Second part:
[youtube.com]

thereturnoftheufo

oh come on this is stupid you cant judge the game online based on the day it was released, and besides japan has more problems getting gamers to go online than america does, trust me when the game comes out in america these problems wont exist

linkthy

@Luziphir: That better be sarcasm.

thereturnoftheufo

@foxuser17: Right. I hate Nintendo. So I bought a DS, a DS Lite, a Wii, a GameCube, a GameBoy Color, a GameBoy Advance, a GameBoy Advance SP, a Nintendo 64, most of these at launch, I'm posting in an SSBB blog, and have Smash Bros. Brawl pre-ordered.

You know Nintendo's stupid as hell but I love them.

thereturnoftheufo

@superradjoe: Just like how PC games don't need patches immediately to play properly, right?

I'm not defending Nintendo, just stating that there's been several times that right out of the box, software isn't always perfect. If you ask me, from what I've seen before, the issue is on the server side, and may take a few days to get straight. It's not like there's never been a long period of downtime with Xbox Live, right?

thatguyjr

@Gwynna:
Lies and fabrications! Since this a such a big release, I'm sure there are plenty of "sick" people in Japan today. Maybe not as many as a FF release (or DQ, but that's moot since they can't release a major DQ game on a weekday), but enough I'm sure.

SpishackCola

Hey, about my experiences playing online on Brawl..

I've logged about 5-10 matches online so far using my Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector and things have been okay. Wi-Fi play is pretty good however, lag is noticeable which is kindy sucky, but for Day One, I'm still pretty impressed.

More impressions cane be found here; [smashboards.com]

Kiriphii

@Callidux: Do you know how scared to death Sakurai sounds when he announces a delay? LOL

thereturnoftheufo

This is the reason why I haven't bought a Wii yet, my main fear is that the online system may prove to be really crappy..

katorok

@thereturnoftheufo: Mmmm,just say it,you hate nintendo.Is that what you are trying to say?,ok i get it,now stop trolling.

foxuser17

@Gunhaver: People wouldn't be getting bumped offline like Ash has been

chemical_eng_mx

@Gwynna: That actually sounds like a pretty possible explaination.

Yin

@MasterSAuce: Or you could just expect your game to work out of the package without having to wait a few days.

Just a thought.

superradjoe

Oh release day of a highly anticipated game with online play! How the barrage of underestimated servers must sound like a swan song.

SpishackCola

@thereturnoftheufo: I have absolutely no idea what the point you're trying to make is.

Luziphir

Man that sucks!!!

It has to be the servers or maybe people just aren't playing this game online. Maybe they feel it isn't worth it? Who knows. You would think people would at least be curious to how it is.

Maybe wait a few days so the community can get up to speed. Prolly everyone is too busy trying to unlock all the characters and goodies. That shit takes forever!

So hows the regular game? As good as Melee? Better? Worse?

Netnavi

hey if a crap load of jocks can fit in a vw bug im sure china can fit in that colloseum

Trevor6887

Didn't something similar to this happen on the DS when games started going online? Like the network went down for a few or am I getting my stories mixed.

OW_Angel

Didn't Chuck Norris & Bruce Lee have a duel there?

Hmm, I can't remember what the movie was called ...

brent_w

@thereturnoftheufo: "rushed", that made me chuckle

Callidux

@Luziphir: Kind of like how Sakurai put effort into designing his clones?

Oh I'm good.

thereturnoftheufo

@Brian Ashcraft: Well, considering the fact that they have bugs on some CDs, and they weren't able to manufacture enough copies, and the fact that a certain robot is in the game roster, something tells me they rushed this game out as fast as they could to prevent a mauling by their angry fans.

That and "Nintendo" and "online" don't go well together. This is Nintendo's first time doing something like this, and considering they're convinced their consumers are old and only want casual gaming baby-food spoonfed to them, they're probably surprised at the number of people logging on to play this. Lol.

thereturnoftheufo

"Perhaps Nintendo should've eased into online gaming, instead of ambitiously diving in head first with its biggest title."

If not, then Nintendo would NEVER have gotten online.

Edge of Blade

OR it could be the fact that it just came out today (regular time, not midnight - most stores announced that they would refuse to stay open late to sell it at midnight)and that its the midle of the day.
Younger players would be in school, university players would most likely be at university and the other 90% of the population are STILL AT WORK!
Then theres the fact that online play isnt all that popular in Japan. Most people I know who have bought it have no intention of getting online with it. Most didnt even know what friend codes were.
Give it a few hours. I'm sure the connectivity will work.

Gwynna

Online isn't such a big deal for me. I mean, there's no voice chat so you might as well be fighting random people when you fight your friends. By the time I start using Brawl's online in America, it'll probably be much better.

Samos42

@Gunhaver: We had this discussion ages ago.

It's very easy to tell if there's a computer player or if there's a human player. CPUs walk and stand still. Humans don't.

Squeek

Nintendo sucking when it comes to online gaming? seriously? Who would have thought? Seriously, Nintendo does do some great stuff, but the online aspect of their platforms is so utterly terrible that it seems to be that they actually put more effort into making it suck than they do into making it work.

Luziphir

I'm gonna wait and see what the general consensus is after a few days. If I had my Wii (will get one soon) I'd jump on and check myself, but since it's the first day, maybe they've just got to get into the swing of it?

Just a shot in the dark, but maybe it's why they only released so many on the first day?

phinehas

@djpaec:
It was terrible. I stopped playing online because of it which is sad because I loved that game. The matches would often slow to a crawl and you couldn't turn of without getting a penalty of your record. It just became too frustrating to deal with.

Aflack: Likes slushies

Yeah as someone else said, Mario Strikers worked fine on launch day and it's not much less than the info being sent with SSBB.

Also there are people who have already been playing WiFi matches for the past 1-2 days, so I wouldn't think its a major issue.

Besides, wouldn't you rather be unlocking stuff than Wifing?

Callidux

oh boy the japanese releace is small compaired to americas can't wait to see if they fixed the internet stuff for here with our huge and mangled mess of interwebs.

Raziel3333

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL):
Not sure. I updated the console. It should be good to go.

Brian Ashcraft

@Brian Ashcraft: just liek 2 weeks ago, live was unplayable

AznSmith

huh. could any of this be attributed to that glitch we were hearing about before? this is mildly disheartening; online may or may not be a dealbreaker for some, and itd be a shame for such a class-looking game to get points knocked off for poor multiplayer design.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

Give 'em a break and quit your moaning. Give it a couple days to hash things out. Find some friends to play with.

I'm gonna go ahead and call this bush league complaining Bash.

MasterSAuce

@Gunhaver: Thats just silly, you could be talking to your friend and be playing against him online at the same time and you would know :-P

Kamakazie

That's strange, I have seen a lot of online Youtube videos, too. What mode are you trying to play online? I'll assume "Brawl," since you didn't mention you'd be trying team or spectator. Maybe you should see if you can see a match with spectator?

My guess is what other people are saying, for today, tomorrow, and a few more days, they'll be regulating the servers, and things should speed up. The Youtubes look like there's very little lag, so maybe there's just issues making the initial connection.

thatguyjr

Mario Strikers worked fine online, they must not have been prepared for what is surely the largest influx of online users they have ever experienced.

Kamakazie

You guys! YOU GUYS!! I was just wondering something...

Know how online matches are set up so that even if the other guy drops, the CPU takes over so you never find out that he drops? Also know how "with anyone" matches are totally anonymous and silent?

What if when we're playing "with anyone" we're actually just fighting CPU players, totally offline, and we only take it on Nintendo's word that we're playing against people? We wouldn't be able to tell the difference! Those evil bastards!! THAT IS THEIR PLAN!! WE'LL NEVER KNOW!!!

Gunhaver

Although given Nintendo's lack of experience for online play, I'd say it's probably more like everyone's trying to get on.

Then again, not being able to accept a huge amount of people at once also derives from inexperience in a way.

Unkown1800

they can't even do Pokemans matches good, why should brawl be any different? What about that Mario Soccer game? How was the lag in that?

djpaec

I'm slowly starting to see the benefits of a later US release...

Archem

@Brian Ashcraft:
Ah, my mistake. I've been trying to figure out all of these Brawl leaks, losing my mind a bit.

ShadeofDante

Nintendo should have eased into online gaming? They did with the DS and online Wii games like PBR and Strikers. Nintendo has had more than enough to get their act together. If this happens when the US release arrives I'm going to be very upset.

Aflack: Likes slushies

@ShadeofDante: He's playing the Japanese version of Brawl in Japan.

VipingViper

Maybe this shortage isn't so accidental... There could have been 4 times as many people not finding opponents...

darthjer

@ShadeofDante:

Night Editor, Japan:
Brian Ashcraft

symphony_of_the_night

Look, we can't have nice things. So you can't have nice things either. It's all very fair.

onidavin

@ShadeofDante:
First time reading the site, huh?

Brian Ashcraft

Sounds like the Three Stooges Effect.

ZekeThePlumber

Just a question, where is this copy of Brawl being played? If it's in America, maybe their servers aren't up yet? Just a thought... (Or at least they're not functioning correctly yet.)

ShadeofDante

@Sabre_Justice: When will it reach australia????

foxuser17

Maybe it only searches or local players?

Giantsonic

@thereturnoftheufo:
Yah, maybe it's just me. Though, I don't have this problem when I play games on PSN or Live.

Brian Ashcraft

Hopefully things will be better by the time it reaches Australia.

Sabre_Justice

Let's hope they get upgrade those servers in preparations for the massive onslaught of increase in activity coming after the North American launch!

mr_dimsum

I think it's your connection that's screwed up.

One word. YouTube. Brawl online matches. Many of them are up. Lurk moar.

thereturnoftheufo

Seriously this sucks. I hope you can get your first game in so we get your impression on the game. If this how its going to be to play the game i don't think a lot of peopel will be happy.

Shindokie

Can't wait to play everyone on Kotaku.

chrislionheart

That is pretty damn disappointing...I hope this doesn't persist for very long. But hell, what do I care, I'd probably end up playing 1P for a year anyway.

Furious_Liver

What?! That doesn't look anything like the Colosseum in The Gladiator! OUTRAGE

ABigSmall

Here's to hoping it's not going to be a big issue.

sanyo

That is pretty darn kewl.

glare

The game is out today.. everyone who has is it ought to be playing the single player game to unlock the characters.. that's why you can't find anyone :P

CockroachMan

@ashcraft,

Sorry to hear you're having problems, but I doubt its because Nintendo is diving in head first on brawl. I"m not sure if they are all out in Japan yet, but I've got half a dozen online Wii games and everything is working well. The thing is the ridiculous connections. For example when i got strikers at launch, the first 36 hours were pretty tough to connect, not unlike when I first got Guitar Hero 3 and even Halo 3. Once everyone has made that first connection (and been assigned whatever *(&@#$%ing friend codes they need), it will really smooth out. Within 2 days, strikers, BWii, Guitar Hero, etc were all really good with no lag and fast match ups.

subnet6

@explodingmanMK2: Yes I do, I'm just adding to the assumptions already made by Eightbit.

UmeShoryu

@UmeShoryu: It is possible to own a Japanese Wii in the US, you know.

explodingmanMK2

Snide remarks about how Microsoft having difficulties (especially at first)is par for the course for them for every OS they have released since Windows 95 aside, I do hope that Nintendo does some work on their online services. Both the DS and the Wii would greatly benefit from it.

@EightBit: Import companies tend to ship so things arrive around release date. At least that is my experience.

RIP Lik Sang. =(

explodingmanMK2

@EightBit: Oh and not to mention that WiiKey or whatever group that made his modchip as already released the firmware update for said modchip to prevent the game from bricking his Wii due to Brawl most likely having the system update that patches the Wii like all previous big name Nintendo releases. (Prime, Paper Mario, and Galaxy.)

UmeShoryu

@djricekcn: Even assuming that he had a friend in japan who got the very first retail copy and mailed it to America the second he got it in his hand, and your American buddy has a modded wii to play the game, there is no way that said japanese friend could ship the game fast enough that it made it to the states by now.

EightBit

Strikers was great in europe for an hour after i stuck the disc in. There were no probs.
Then the something went wrong. Horribly wrong.
Two days later it worked, and i got taken apart by twelve year olds. I think the former was better, at least then i could pretend i wasn't craptacular

GMC

Sounds like my Mario Kart DS and Metroid DS fun.
Though I think Mario Kart worked at one point for a single match.

FUN!

Malmer

@thatguyjr: Yeeesh alright.

foxuser17

@djricekcn:
Really? WOW. More amazing because the GAME IS NOT OUT IN THE STATES.

Brian Ashcraft

@StratfordX: My god!! I had the SAME freaking problem. Online was SO slow until I changed my channel.. NOT kidding it was the craziest thing.

xpnet

Do you have no friends maybe? Where are your friend codes?

xpnet

I noticed a few people mention that Mario Strikers was fine on launch. I don't know if that was the experience in the US but in the UK it was virtually impossible to connect to for the first weekend of launch. In the following week you could connect and have a single match, but as soon as the match was finished you got kicked from the server. I hoped that that was Nintendo working out the kinks in the Wii online, but if the same things happen with Brawl clearly they haven't learnt anything.

Flaming Elk

@Brian Ashcraft: try changing the channel on your router--there are usually 11 channels and mine defaults at 6, nintendo says to change it to 1 or 11. at 6 you can connect to online features but it's very spotty. changing channels provides stability, and you've only recently set your wii online, correct?

StratfordX

I don't have the game, but my friend in a different state said he hasn't had a problem yet. not sure if that'll help you, but at least one person I know who lives in the states is not having issues.

djricekcn

Was going to stop by Shinjuku Bic and pick up a copy, but I had an inexplicable "Oh god I'm going to vomit!" sort of feeling creeping up on me so I gave it a pass. Checked my local Wanpaku on the way home from the station, but it was sold out...

erlik

@SpishackCola: Take time off work? In Japan? for Smash Bros? hahahaha!
For BIG franchises like FF or DQ this DOES happen, but Smash doesnt fit into that category of mainstream popularity. Also, not as many people take time off work for something like that as they used to. Companies are stricter and penalties are harsher.
Besides which, a lot of the stuff you hear about people skipping work to buy DQ is is nothing more than internet urban legend.

Nintendo does seem to have MAJORLY SCREWED the launch though. Amazon Japan wouldnt allow preorders at all and the only seller on there today was charging almost 17000yen a copy!!! thats close to 3 times recommended retail price!

Gwynna

I'm gonna be playing MY game, February...like probably 4th I'll probably get it. I'm gonna be spending Valentine's Day with Metroid. And you guys have fun waiting, because I got the inside track...

...and I owned Gamestop nubs...

BigManZam

@AntiZERO: FYI, The Subspace Emissary is co-op.

Zyzex_Remix

Disappointing, to be sure, but I would give it a few days before saying it's broken. I mean, the game JUST came out today.

Besides, didn't MS have server lurches when Halo 3 was released, too?
...I kinda seem to remember reading about that.

Mr. Fap☆Fap!

@D00mM4r1n3: It does not. You can't even see the IP address it obtains automatically, if I recall correctly.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

I forget if the Wii has a detailed connection test, but start up the 360 and do a connection test to see if your NAT is showing as Open or Restricted.

D00mM4r1n3

This doesn't surprise me.

I remember watching IGNs reviews of Pokemon Battle Revolution for the Wii. What Mr. Ashcraft is saying is identical to what IGN said about PBR in their video review about the online mode.

It isn't Mr. Ashcrafts fault at all, more along the line of Nintendos server end.

Also the same thing would happen to me on the DS, when I used to play online.

Mr. Ashcraft, I'd try again maybe sometime tomorrow or latter this week or early next. It should be fine then.

Sailorcancer

Smash Bros. ain't gonna get many perfect ten out of ten (maybe on a 5 point scale).

Why? Because the online aspect is shallow (no online Co-op, lag, basic brawl). Some people are eventually going to want to play with a friend through the story mode online (oh yes, it will happen). Other aspects like Mastepieces are throw aways to some.

I personally don't care for to much online (though Mario Kart DS could have used Battle mode online) but it will occur, so I'm expecting 8s, 9s and the odd 10, just so my hopes aren't crushed by the reviews of an enjoyable but overhyped experience.

AntiZERO

Thats what happens to me on rockband- it takes FOREVER to find a party member on that game...

MajorWedgie

@thereturnoftheufo: I'm so glad that wasn't a RickRoll.

InsidiousTuna

I have the same connection issues with Mario Strikers. I can do everything online with my WII except play Strikers....boo....

little computer eerk

Have you considered that you're having trouble finding a match because it's currently 4 PM on launch day, and quite a few of the buyers haven't had a chance to jump online yet?

Hrist

Just a guess, but maybe it is because Nintendo does not have the servers for places other than Japan totally set-up yet (saying that it is not released outside of Japan yet...).

lstormy10

I'm not too worried about Brawl's online being difficult to log on to around March 9th, probably because I won't be playing online 'til I unlock all the awesome (and not so awesome) characters first, and playing with friends. It'll start to wind down after a while. Just gotta wait.

ElErico

@Brian Ashcraft: @EightBit:

Some stores sold them yesterday here in the states. Just because it's America doesn't mean there's no Japanese goods here too. I'm getting my Devil May Cry 4 tmr in the mail...jp ps3 one

djricekcn

I do hope this gets fixed before it hits the UK. Mind you, they probably have like another two years knowing how much us PAL players get screwed.

A little off topic, I've been there! (the Colosseum) Actually, that pictures is almost exactly the same as the one I took! Well, apart from the people in the background.

furiku

I'm having the same kind of problems, so I don't think it's Bash's connection. I'll choose a player and stage, it'll look for other players, but never find any.

I did manage to get into ONE match with two other people, and it seemed to play really smoothly with no lag at all. But I've been trying to play online for a loooong time, and no luck finding partners :/

EvanS

@Gunhaver:
That's been my main complain with Brawl and other online Wii games. Without some way to communicate with the other players, online is basically almost like playing single player except:
Pro - actual thinking opponents instead of lame AI.
Con - actual cheating opponents instead of cheap AI.

LeChuck

I've heard lots of negative stuff about the launch online service as well, but then again that's a LOT of copies going online at once. If this continues for another week or so though, it may be a different story...

muu

Bash - Being connected and being connected WELL aren't the same thing. My router (wireless/wired) is able to connect me to xbox live marketplace and the wii shop channel with no problems, but when it comes to playing a game of halo3, it takes forever to find a match, and then is laggy as hell unless i unplug from the router and go straight into the wall.

though I'm guessing you've been on xbox live with no problems... just consider the possibility that it could be your router slowing you down or preventing a solid connection.

teh_sideburns

If you are expecting LIVE type service from Nintendo, then you deserve to be disappointed. Online has never been Nintendo's strong suit, and compaired to MS I doubt it ever will be.

EmeraldDragon

Could it possibly be because it's a pre-release copy? Are you in the USA, if so the connection is prob pure crap to the land of the rising Nintendo.

DimmuJed2

@glare: Kewl? How is that cool?

Zeouterlimits

@Zyzex_Remix: yes it is, but my point is with the inclusion of online, someone will want more in the experience, then again, people like me don't care about online too much.

AntiZERO

I'll go on record predicting this will all get hashed out once launch hysteria dies down a bit.

thischarmingman

Lets give it a week or two. If its still shoddy, then we could start worrying.

Everyone is unlocking, playing 1p, blah blah blah . Is it not possible that out of the thousands sold, at least 10 people will try to use online?. Shouldn't you be able to play with at least one of the ten people trying to connect?.

If its server overload, then thats fine. Don't even try to justify it by saying everyone is too busy unlocking.

fyren

sorry to hear of your troubles. we may experience the same once its released over here in the states. i sincerely hope they resolve the issues soon

kw4k

This is worrisome, at best, and deal-breaking, at worst. Hopefully these issues will be ironed out in time for the American release. I can't help but feel that if Nintendo hadn't been so stubborn about using Friend Codes and a dumbed-down online interface that these issues would either be minimal or non-existent.

kylenalepa

Pokemon Battle Revolution has been online on Wii for quite some time, so I wouldn't say that this is Nintendo's premier into online gaming.

Anyway, if I don't optimistically hope that the problem will be solved shortly, I'll break down and cry...so that's what I'm gonna do!

UltimatePancakeSensation

@Brian Ashcraft: What? I'm not sure what you mean. If you're talking about the tips email address for Kotaku, I didn't think it worked or was used considering anytime I sent something no one ever replied or showed any sign of well...life.

thereturnoftheufo

For anyone comparing Mario Strikers with SSBB is ridiculous. I saw zero lines and only a handful of preorders for Strikers on release day. Of course the online play went smoothly. I have several GameStops who have over 600 preorders for SSBB and that's just in Orange County. We'll see how this pans out. It's too early to tell and in a sense, I'm glad Nintendo decided to test the waters in Japan first. Let's hope they work out the kinks before March.

Jenstar: The O.C. Nintendo Representative

I do not get the rabidness surrounding this game.

Don't you just punch buttons really fast?

Groodle

Wait a minute, this is coming from someone who JUST put their Wii online. and the title JUST came out.

Brilliant. So, let's just ignore any possibility of you having more airport issues with data transfer, and the fact that most people don't buy a game and immediatly go to the online portion. The majority like to just *play* the game first for at least a little while.

sadkermit

From what I understand, players can't even connect to play a single match, or the match is so lag-ridden that you might as well not even play. And Given Nintendo's online support seen in other games, I'm not willing to bet Brawl's online is going to get much better. We can only hope though

Mech_Master

I've played DBZ:SBT3 online with the Wii and I had no problems at all, it was laggy once and I wasnt too happy with it, and then I realized my torrents were on :x.

subb

I bet u nintendo figured out he was american and stopped him from going online with brawl or at the moment they dont have connectivity with brawl in america yet

adillio94

ZOMG! No one to play with online on a game that isn't out yet! MUST be broken!

BlindsidesDork

I'm pretty sure this is a router issue. I had an almost identical problem with Strikers when I changed my old Linksys to a Netgear. I could get into the lobby but only connect to another player about 1 in 50 tries! All other online features of the Wii work fine and my 360 and PS3 work flawlessly. With all the recent greatness of 360 releases I gave up, and tbh haven't really played the Wii since. Now I'm starting to worry as I'm really looking forward to SSBB... I'm working on this now, if I find a solution I'll post it. Good luck with this.

Arcadewolf

I feel your pain Brian. I must have wasted a good hour last night trying to get an online brawl with a random player. The closest I got was a brief second of the countdown screen before i got an error message saying my connection was lost.

Also, for all you guys referencing the videos on youtube, most of the ones I've seen have been friend matches, which doesn't seem to have the same problem as random matches, according to another friend who is playing this morning. Although there must be some people out there lucky enough to connect, I am sadly not among them.

starman jr

@BlindsidesDork:
It's out in Japan, where I live. Durr.

@adillio94:
First time on the site?

Brian Ashcraft

I can't wait to trade friend codes with people I know, because playing with people you don't know in real life is a bad idea, they could turn out to be bad people, ya' know?

It's not like adults play this game online.. Mostly just little kids.
I hate you so much Nintendo.

MichaelR

I don't know, alot of those youtube videos look much different from what you're saying, man.

KM91

Check your channel settings...you might be getting inteference from other things in your house. Default wireless routers tend to be on channel 6. Try switching it to Channel 4 or channel 9...should be much better. Of course, now 400,000 Japanese will take this information and crash the server.

Maddogdw

posting to say that i can't get my SSBB online, either :(

108

It sucks that out of the box a game struggles with it's online shit, but give it time. Plus, this is one of those things where you could be having problems, but lots of happy people elsewhere else in the country are having no problems getting online with the game at all.

Random J

Well... I guess that we should have all seen this coming. I think that its time I admit that Nintendo is terrible at created a great online game.
I believe that there are no stock matches online against random opponents and only time matches.
Nintendo is starting to be all about the casual gaming crowed and by making only time matches these casual noobies cant be elimated from a match. They get to play all the way through no matter how crappy they are.
I am honestly starting to believe that this game is not going to live up to the hype. IGN has a podcast and they dont sound too hyped at all, it sounds basically like the difference between halo 2 and halo 3.
Halo 3 was a recreated halo 2 with new maps, it played a bit different and they added new features. Dont get me wrong I really like halo 3, but it didnt live up to what I was expecting.
I think that SSBB will be very much the same

Brodo17

You know, people really need to stop bitching about this stuff.
So Nintendo has been behind when it comes to online play. Oh well. Stuff like this happens all the time. So the online play isn't what you expected. PLAY THE ONE PLAYER! It's not like this is an online based game and they just HAPPENED to throw in a one player mode. Be happy with what you get because, these days, so few games live up to both their own and the general populace's expectations.
The main problem here is that people are trying to compare not only well established online gaming providers, like Microsoft, but well established online franchises, like Halo.
This is so unfortunate. No one is cutting Nintendo any slack at all even though everyone KNOWS Nintendo's online abilities are still in their infancy. Like someone else said, even Microsoft, the king of online play, had it's problems when they started Xbox Live, but no one was bitching then. You know why? They were the first to do it so they became the standard. With more and more people clamoring for online play, Nintendo has had to attempt to bring this side of their development up by the bootstraps. How many of Nintendo's games have come out that have online play? A very small amount (I don't know the exact amount but it's something like 4 or 5).
Do you know what though? AT LEAST THEY ARE TRYING! They could just let online play go to the wayside and spend their time producing top notch games that don't need it at all. That's right, I said it, some games are so good they don't need online play. Online play is not the end all and the be all, but so many people seem to see it that way. No one seems to be looking at some of the actual improvements that Super Smash Brothers has undergone between Melee and Brawl.
The conversation should go "Look at SSBB! They really improved the adventure mode." "Hey, wow, check out all the characters and stages" "Wow, third party characters like we wanted" "Oh wow, they added online play."
Instead you hear "wow, Nintendo sucks at online stuff. Even Brawl sucks because of it."
Stuff like this may also be our, the gamers, fault for expecting so much out of people who are only trying their damnedest to please absolutely everyone.
Oh, and on a side note, online lag happens all the time, even in well established online franchises like Halo. I played a few matches in Halo 3 the other day and "lag glitching" happened quite alot. It's annoying, it's frustrating and, with almost any online game, IT HAPPENS.

TriChronos

Hey,

I am having the same problem with my Wii Connect.

rednyne

still runs like crap, i get maybe 1 online brawl to work each day. I try about 15 times then get pissed and flip off the unit.

TehBoj

I'm in the US and I haven't been able to connect to any games. I sit there and beat up a puching bag forever before I get bored and log off. what's up with this?

jakeprice