@BuckTwenty: not bad...

@BPM4: Guns of the Idiots: aw, for $17 id be all in. crap, now i gotta go lookin'...its down to that and zack & wiki, ironically, on my half.com list. i mean, if you dont count the oldies like suikoden 2 and such.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

@munkah: It's not far from overtaking the original XBox.

Torgen thinks AAA has lost all meaning

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL):
Circuit City had it discounted to $16.96. Good luck finding it anywhere anymore, though...

BPM4: Guns of the Idiots

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL): Well, I keep seeing it for $30 new at places like Wal-Mart.

Yeah, Elebits was definitely an overlooked game... I actually only got it for Christmas and actually beat it before I played much of Galaxy.

Don't get me wrong though - Galaxy is the better game and I beat that too.

BuckTwenty

I still can't believe that 4 years ago, I actually walked into a department store, approached a clerk and uttered the words "I would like to buy a Nintendo Gamecube". I owned neither a PS2 or Xbox at the time.

To it's credit, the thing is solid as a rock and I've never had any hardware issues whatsoever.

J-Fro

I still have my GC that I got at launch. I don't think I will ever sell it, too many memories.

mexfreak86

@xpnet: Indeed, by my calculations the Wii can never catch up to the Gamecube since it's actually two Gamecubes duct-taped together! Gamecube FTW!
Now if only Brawl would suddenly get undelayed...

iofthestorm

I actually got a GC at launch. Rogue Squadron was one of the most repayable, satisfying games ever. Resident Evil was really pretty. Too bad those were the only good games on there.

GOLD5

@BuckTwenty: wait, how much is elebits these days? i still wanna pick that up sometime, was the best of the launch ones i played, but for some reason got slept on. Its like the pre-zack & wiki zack & wiki.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

@Neon: yeah, that was cool, like a year ago.

man, do your thing, wii. Im proud nintendo found an angle & are quite healthy these days. but truth be told, so far, i had more love for my gamecube, and was sad to see such a great system not do well last gen. Besides the usual quality first-party lineup, i had eternal darkness, RE4, bomberman and numerous others that i still play here & there, imports as well. I hope to say that in a few years with my wii as well, but for what its worth, gamecube, you done good, little guy.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

@Neon: And Zack and Wiki, and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, and, IMO, Elebits, because it's cheap now.

And maybe No More Heroes? I don't really know, I haven't played it yet and have yet to read many reviews of it (other than the fine, fine Frankenreview Kotaku did, of course).

<_<

>_>

BuckTwenty

All you people bitching about no good third party wii games should go grab trauma center

Neon

@Roflcopter_Down:

Man, you sure have a lot of time on your hands to come on a gaming blog and complain about a system you most likely don't even own.

NeoAkira

@BuckTwenty: Super Mario Strikers Charged.

Sorry for the double post.

BuckTwenty

Man, you guys have a lot of money for shitty Wii games.

Roflcopter_Down

@incazteca: Super Mario Strikers would like to have a word with you.

I know, I know, a Mario sports spin off game. But for multiplayer, it really is fantastic.

BuckTwenty

@Ignatius: Come on man! Have a sense of humor... that was hilarious :D !!!

okenny :)... Microsoft PR Whore

man, that really makes the gamecube look bad. and sure, it wasn't amazing, but i still loved it. D'=

MushroomBoy1022

I'm only happy the Wii is successful because I hope that fact brings more (good) games. These mini-games are getting annoying. As are the ports. When we (hopefully) start seeing less cash-in games then I will be happy. Nintendo needs a ridiculous exclusive besides it's first party. It needs a GTA. And, if your are going to keep porting your ass off, why not make it good ports.....I WANT Marvel vs. Capcom 2 dammit!!!

MJDeviant

@Black-Dog-Howls: They might have bought it because they want to play games on it. It's a really far out theory, I know. But then again, some people believe the moon landing was faked so anything's possible.

dowingba

@Phinehas: I'm not trolling I'm just saying that as much as I love my wii. There is still just a glut of crappy games. I just want a good multiplayer game for the Wii that isn't a minigame compilation. All I have at the moment are one player games and wii sports (batallion wars is fun its just I can't connect my wii to the school's wireless system)

incazteca

@Black-Dog-Howls: Come to think of it, scratch the whole post. Kane and Lynch sold. Clearly being a good game doesn't matter period.

Black-Dog-Howls

@Ignatius: It was a joke, I love the Wii. Yeesh this is worse than a political forum.

dowingba

@ssjmichael: I wouldn't recommend anyone else buying it.. Me and my brother picked it up because we never played it.. It's good 4 player fun for about 20 mins.

xpnet

I still have to wonder why casual/non-traditional gamers are buying it. Is the Wii really a cleverly disguised hypno-toad because every time I ask someone why they bought it they can never give a straight answer. That only encompasses the portion of people that don't view this media as one of their hobby/pass times.

I mean I do get that it's the hot item but it certainly isn't the quality of the library selling the machine. Unless we're taking the idea of good games for granted and those alpha moms EGM had on their podcast that one time really do represent a majority of the Wii crowd.

Black-Dog-Howls

@dowingba:

Hello troll.

Ignatius

@ssjmichael: Ghost Squad is a lot of fun, played it at my buddy's house. Think I'm gonna get it myself in a few months.

Blind_Evil

The DS didn't get ANYTHING good for close to a year after its' release (Only Adv. Wars and Kirby:CC stood out during that duration) and look at it now. Yeah, there are billions of shovelware titles, but the stuff that's good (mostly first-party, but still) is amazing. The Wii will have its day; just wait.

TalKeaton

The Wii will sell twice as much as the Cube because it's just two Gamecubes taped together.

dowingba

@xpnet:

Ew you bought Ghost Squad?

ssjmichael

@xpnet: And own two Wiis and two cubes (Purple and Silver) ;)

xpnet

@phinehas: Seconded. I own 13 games for the Wii, and almost all of them are fantastic.

The only "mini-game collection" I own is Wii Sports.

BuckTwenty

It's because most of the anti-Wii posts are 360 and PS3 fanboys, who envy the Wii's commercial success. The Wii has SMG, Zack and Wiki, RE4, Twilight Princess, Trauma Center 1 and 2, Umbrella Chronicles, Super Paper Mario, Metroid 3, and No More Heroes. Quite a nice list of exclusive AAA titles are available on the Wii, in its first year. Probably more quality than the 360 had in year one. If people think it's dominating now, just wait till next year, hehe.

zenfoldor

@dynendal:
Cube Collection

Lego Star Wars II
1080
Tetris Worlds
Starwars County Hunter
The Legend of Zelda : Wind Waker (two)
F-Zero GX
LOZ : Four Swords Adventure
Gauntlet
Starwars Rogue Squadron III
Lost Kingdoms
LOZ: Ocarina of Time
Starwars : Clone wars
Tom Clancy' Splinter Cell Choas Theory
Baten Kaitos
Tom Clancy's Splnter Cell
Ikaruga
Luigi's Mansion
Super Mario Sunshine
Metriod Prime
Star Wars : Jedi Knight II
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door
Soul Calibur II
Super Monkey Ball (two)
Star Wars : Rogue Leader
Eightteen Wheeler
Sonic Mega Collection
Super Smash Bros Melee

Wii Collection
Battalion Wars 2
Sonic : Secret of the Rings
Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
Red Steel
Super Monkey Ball
Elebits
Smooth Moves
LOZ : wilight Princess
Resient Evil Wii Edition
Sponge Bob (Don't ask)
Zack and Wiki
Wii Play
Wii Sports
Dragon Ball Z BT2 and BT3
Excite Truck
Ghost Squad
Trauma Center New Blood

xpnet

And people b!tch about the hardware shortages. Wii is tracking at PS2 levels and their previous effort was nearly a failure if it weren't for Nintendo's 1st party software to continually bail them out.

How could anyone have expected such a dramatic paradigm shift? Their competition laughed them off like a joke at times, claiming that they didn't think of Nintendo as their competition.

Who would gamble millions of dollars on something so untested by making 25 or 30 Million units in the 1st year? They made a pretty liberal estimate of 13 million for the year and have had to continually up the estimate.

This is why there is a shortage.

Nintendo has changed the face of gaming possibly forever. Whether that's a good thing or not is another issue but with 20Mil units under their belt Nintendo is relevent now more than ever.

kman2686

@incazteca: And that's an argument I wish people would use less on here (because it makes people sound uneducated and trollish - ie, the Wii HAS legit gamez now, yo).

phinehas

Game...cube...? What's that? Did I miss something?

MetaKz

GC was a flop, overtake the nes and I'll be impressed.

munkah

Holy lopsided grapes, Batman! That's a lot of Wii!

zer0zen

150+ games on the cube?

I only had a PS2, and I only recently reached 50 titles owned (about 70 played). And that is with a bizzillion games on it.

20 games so far on the Wii.

DonWii

@Kenaue: That's an attitude I wish more people would show on here.

phinehas

@dynendal: @Jcnet:
What the hell? Do you people do nothing with your money but spend them on games? Or are you really rich? Or do you have family pay for it all? Or maybe are on wellfare?
More importantly... have you even PLAYED them all?!
I have about 55 GameCube titles, and I can't think of many more worth owning...

BPM4: Guns of the Idiots

Did I miss it? Darn. ;(

Mr. Dark E

The Wii's life, like the Gamecube's life, doesn't truly begin until after Smash Brothers.

DimensionWarped

Wow... now let's hope they stop churning out those minigame compilations....

incazteca

@dynendal: @Jcnet: How the hell do you two afford all that? I mean, I can maybe see you getting discounts on the Gamecube games because they've been out for a while, but Jcnet, how many games for the Wii and 360 do you own?

Sheesh, and here I thought my collection of 45 Gamecube games was excessive.

BuckTwenty

Considering that for each Wii Sold is equal to 2 game cubes duct taped together... thats alot of mother f-ing game cubes! Good job Nintendo!

Oh wait... (Goes back to playing NMH)

@ that guy with the 130 game cube games.. WOW.. just wow.. I have 30 Cube games and 18 Wii games..

xpnet

This calls for a celebration! Let's port some more GCN games over!!

Seriously, though. I want something to play.

Kai_

@ProfWho: Heh, well no that's wrong. The PS3 has games too. Didn't you read my post? 'Geez ProfWho, I thought the 'ps3 has no gamezorz' meme died already.'

rlh445

What I really find interesting is that the NES was designed as a mainstream hardware that would bring games to more people and if you look at those retro commercials posted every now and then, it looked like it was aiming for everyone: There was no concept of gamer to them. console wars of the late 80's and 90's, the idea of hardcore gaming and technology kind of led Nintendo astray. I believe that the Gamecube was supposed to be a return to form in making that machine with the mainstream appeal but it had a mismatch of marketing and software. The Wii really reeled it all in. Nintendo finally found a way to bring games into the casual setting thereby creating a true evolution of the original NES. It did this by offering the kind of games that appeal to the mainstream in a package that didn't scream intimidating technology. They also realized that they had to let go of the hardcore somewhat to grab the new influx: They realized that they couldn't be all thing to all people but they could be something special to a new group of people who are embracing the tech boom with products like the cell phone and ipod. Though the Wii isn't my first choice of console, I can appreciate the journey Nintendo has made to get to a point like this. I honestly thought they might go the way of Sega (not likely though with the DS business working) right up to the Wii's launch but if you look at the size of the gamble they took, they deserve a payout like this. The Wii and DS have created quite the synergy for themselves and soon we will be hearing the DS doing the same to Gameboy numbers.

okenny :)... Microsoft PR Whore

@Mahale: Bitching about the lack of games on the internet, obviously. Honestly, I don't know where people get these arguments either. I've got a fairly sizable Wii game collection, and most of those games are actually third party titles.

Lezard

@Mahale: Twiddling our thumbs, apparently.

Chris3000

@Custom Reality: Uh, do you remember the first year or so of N64 releases?

Blind_Evil

@rlh445: Everyone knows only the 360 has games...at least that is what I hear from the kids

ProfWho

So, that is better than the 360 which had a year head start, right?

ProfWho

Not a fan of the Wii, but I'm impressed. Good job Nintendo.

Kenaue

WTB a thread about Nintendo or the Wii without ten million people coming in to bitch about the 'non existent games' or 'lack of third party support'. What the hell, people? Before the Wii was actually launched all you could hear for miles around was how many developers jumped on board and were excited to start making games for Wii. Now it's the new black to trash their third party stuff. It takes time to make great games and it will take time to develop for the Wii, for obvious reasons. But let somebody say something about the PS3's 'lack of games' and you'll get WTFPWND like this: 'Geez (insert name here), I thought the 'ps3 has no gamezorz' meme died already. Give it a rest.' YOU people give it a rest. I thought the 'jajaja it's like two gamecubes duct taped together and it has no gamezzzz!1lawlz' meme died already. Give it a rest.

rlh445

So far the PS3 has no games, the Wii has no games, the x-box 360 only has FPS games....

hmm... so what the hell are we all doing?

Mahale

Holy crap.

And here I thought the Wii had only sold 14 million or so.

Ignatius

Keep up the great work, Nintendo. We all love you. =]

BloodStainedVendetta

I have a little over 150 gcn games but there were around 500 total released in the US.

I've already surpassed my gcn collection with my wii and 360 collections >.>

Jcnet

@dicedime: Yeah, but it took the Gamecube a few years to get all those quality titles, though. The Wii's been on the market about a year and a few months?

Not tryin' to give 'em too much slack of course - we need (good) games from all corners of the earth, but they still have some time to show what they can do. At least, that's my take.

phinehas

@dynendal: 130 Gamecube games? Holy crap, did you buy every game released on that system? I mean, I liked my Gamecube just fine (I don't see why people trash on it and then go all nostalgic for the Dreamcast), but that's ridiculous.

Anyway, no matter how you look at it selling 20 million consoles in less than a year and a half is pretty staggering. There's no question their new strategy is working commercially, even if it doesn't necessarily make all gamers happy.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

Wii is little over one year old, give it a little time before you pass judgement, also while you may not like Wii's library a lot of people do, which is why it had such high game sales in december

Avinash_Tyagi

I own 130 Gamecube games - and I can tell you right here I'll never own 130 Wii games.

dynendal

As Fiddy put it, " I get money, I get-get-get money".

fyren

I love the Wii, but it has about as many quality titles as the GameCube did. I miss my Nintendo 64.

/Only plays Lego Star Wars on Wii as of late

Custom Reality

LET'S GO KID, YOU CAN DO IT !

Waza

@dicedime: Totally agree. The third party support has been lacking. All the Wii needs now is some great games and it would be even more of a success. Not to mention it would please the core gamers.

ArtemisFei

@dicedime: Amen.

Roflcopter_Down

but one thing will be missing in comparison with the gc... the number of quality titles

dicedime

WOW.. Now this puts their success into a perspective that will surprise Iwata himself.

okenny :)... Microsoft PR Whore

I know this info. will never be released (if it's even available), but I'd be curious to know where Wii sales would stand based only on sales to gamers who bought the GameCube, PS2, PS3, Xbox and/or Xbox 360. In other words, how many have sold to people like me (or should I say "mii"?) as opposed to people who are buying their first console (senior citizens and children 12 and under). I had thought most Nintendo fans had picked up the system, but with Mario Galaxy, Zelda and Metroid Prime being dramatically outsold by Wii Fit and Mario Party, I'm starting to suspect that I'm in a minority of hardcore gamers who stuck with the big N and picked up a Wii (just as I did a GameCube, N64, SNES, and NES).

Sloopydrew

@Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor): Can one actually patent an "insanity meter"? I wonder what the sketches would look like for that one...

dowingba

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL): RE5 has an insanity system? Dang, I didn't know that. I thought Nintendo had the feature patented, didn't they?

I still really hope that at some point Silicon Knights will make a second Eternal Darkness for the Wii. I think that what they could do with the controls could potentially be awesome.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

@Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor): true. its hard not to love a game who's insanity system looks to be even more popular when RE5 borrows from it, eh?
ive given silicon knights a fair chance since Soul Reaver, personally.

TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL)

@TheIrishNinja (PSN), IrishNinja2099 (XBL): Man, I loved Eternal Darkness. I think that the reason I'm still excited for Too Human even though the Internet has already declared its utter disdain for it is because I have so much faith in Silicon Knights after that game.

Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor)

@dicedime: That's not a fair comparison. The Wii is nowhere even close to its final run. Let's talk in about 7 years or so and then do the math. Heck even 4 years will be enough to make the argument worthwhile.

Aiwokote

@Sabre_Justice: Pst :p Paragraphs are so `90s!

okenny :)... Microsoft PR Whore

Okay, by show of hands, who's surprised? Any one?

EmeraldDragon

Ah this is a trick post!!

Because since the wii is 2 gamecubes in a nice little white package, in truth the gamecube has sold 41.85 units since its release.

Ha. Tricky tricky.

Terrorsaur.

@okenny :)... Microsoft PR Whore: Dude. Paragraphs. Use them.

@J-Fro: That's Nintendo hardware for ya. It did come with a friggin' handle, you can take that thing up Everest.

Third-party games are coming, but don't expect many until devs finally get it through their thick heads that shovelware doesn't sell.

Sabre_Justice

Nintendo is living the good life. Enjoy it.

Hiltz

A tag team of Wii/DS that would make their ancestor SNES/GB parents proud.

...well, except SNES had the luxury of making their games "Super" this and "Super" that (i.e. Super Contra, Super Widgets. etc). Yea I know it was cheesy but it suckered sad saps like me :P

nerdelphia

I can't really understand 130 or 150. There isn't 150 games I like for any one system (or hell, all of them put together..) I have 17 GC games, and there isn't any more that I'd like to own.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

brello

I'm quite sure by now it's already been surpassed.

Kirkpad

Blast Processing did it for me.

Kenofthedead

@Sloopydrew:
I don't like the category "Children 12 and under." I was four when I got my first NES. :P

BPM4: Guns of the Idiots

@Stormrider (XBL: Lilarcor): Yeah, 130ish. 5 are import.

I just saw people who collected entire console libraries of like Dreamcast and Sega Saturn, and I thought hey, if I can get them cheap, why not get a sizeable library of games on my favourite system? I was also pretty disappointed with the lack of Gamecube games at retailers and thought it would be cool to have every game that was pretty much worth it.

I've been pretty disappointed with the Wii so far, barring a few amazing titles.

dynendal

@SONICgoose: It's fun to post without reading the thread!

sxp151

Yeh 30 miliion that sounds great.However howmany of them will collecting dust.I traded mine back because of the low level of triple A titles.Good for nintendo but personaly the casual market is not called casual for no reason.

SONICgoose

They are going to reach 30 million before the year's out. Believe it. Also, lol at all the trolls and haters.

Foxstar Sixtail

@ARboom: Yes, GameCube finished the last generation 'dead last' but it was only a few million behind Xbox - approx 22 million vs. approx 24 million. There really wasn't much difference between the success of those two systems: Xbox did better in the US and Europe, GC did better in Japan, and each sold about 1/5 of PS2 numbers.

Given another few months, Wii will probably be overtaking Xbox sales as well. And yes, it's fairly impressive that a console overtakes two of its previous-generation counterparts in 18 months - even if the 'winner' of the previous generation is still way ahead in the distance, and may never be surpassed.

quen

@ Black Dog Howls

I bought my Wii because it's the only reliable Metroid Prime: Corruption adaptor I could find for my TV. Then I discovered Devils Crush on the VC and my life was complete.

I have intense affection for my GameCube, though. Couple weeks after I got my Wii, I dug out the GCN and reconnected it, just so I could play GCN games--Alien Hominid, initially--on my second-favorite Dead Grey Console.

At the moment, due to my oddball tastes, the Wii is lagging well behind my GameCube and my Dreamcast, but that's wholly to be expected--I've had years to cherrypick those latter libraries, and it's only this week that No More Heroes finally came out. In the meantime, the Wii let me mess around with a raft of generations I actually missed: 16/32/64 bits all passed this guy right on by, so I've had fun dipping into those eras.

Fat Contradiction

@ARboom: How wrong you are. The Holiday season that the Xbox360 came out, the Gamecube actually made the most profits that season out of all the consoles. Did it sell the most games? No. But, it made the most profits. And that wasn't the only year the Gamecube made the most profits. It may seem like the Gamecube didn't do well to some people, but it actually was a nice little cash-cow for Nintendo. I like to think of the Gamecube as a savings fund that went towards the Wii. =)

NESv1

Its slightly impressive they did it so quickly, but seriously, how could a console NOT surpass GameCube sales? That mofo finished the previous generation dead Last.

ARboom

Poor Gamecube. I feel bad, it's the only Nintendo console I never owned. (Yes... I have a Virtual Boy...)

notalkjustrock

I miss the days of when it wasn't about power or graphics or any dumbshit crap like that. I miss having actual fun rather than arguing about pointless crap.

SpeakwithBread

I cry when i think of the cube

I felt like the only nintendo fan in the world when the gamecube was out ;_:

Uzilover

@SONICgoose: Only two memes? You can troll harder then that.

Foxstar Sixtail

I'm getting the image that the GameCube is Lonestar and Barf, while the Wii is the Spaceball ship passing them at ludicrous speed.

WordMan

WII rulezzzzzzzzzzzz, EVRY1 SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

taomaster99

These numbers are international, right? And I think it's about time for another helpful bar graph comparing sales across all consoles. Love those damn things.

monkeysaresilly

@Mahale:
Gamers don't actually play video games, that's a common misconseption.

Volcan

Hmm one system is out six years and another only one, yet the system with six years has more quality titles?

Color me surprised!

@SONICgoose:

PS3 has less AAA and Xbox barely has more, and it has a year head start.

Americana

Strangely enough I just ordered a 40gb ps3 today and stuck my 30 VC game Wii onto ebay, whilst also buying a cheap 'Cube for my old classics like WindWaker and Ikaruga. As much as I love my TurbGrafx shoot-em-ups the lack of play in general the Wii gets has disappointed me.

(interesting thing to try - on any TurboGrafx shooting game like R-Type try keep the fire button down for autofire on the Wii remote, which on R-Type would charge your force bolt or whatever it's called, then move around a bit - up and down continuously works nice, discharge the bolt, and now press and hold the button down again to charge another bolt whilst still moving around up and down, you will not charge any bolts but fire bursts of individual bullets. This occasionally game breaking fault in the TG emulator/Wii remote/bluetooth or wireless can be reproduced on ANY TG shooting game including Blazing Lasers. Extremely annoying when you try to shoot bolts through the mess of green mines that is R-Type level 4 only to shoot little pellets)

FatherTed

@FatherTed: Thank you. We all needed to know the first part of your post.

Foxstar Sixtail

The Nintendo fanboy in me tried to delude the fact the Gamecube sold incredibly well, but there's no denying it now. That console did badly. *lol* I worked at GAME the year the slim PS2 released and that Christmas I must've sold through all of the Xboxes, all of the PS2's and not sold a single GameCube. I actually tried to sell to someone, but int he end I couldn't do it. I had to be honest and tell the dude he was better off with a PS2.

Random J