editorial
GTA IV: Reinventing a World
Posted by Brian Crecente at 5:00 AM on February 12, 2008
Tucked away in a secluded bungalow in West Hollywood's Châteaux Marmont, a hotel as famous for those who stay there as it is infamous for those who have died there, a world reimagined comes into focus.
Standing hands akimbo, a nonplussed expression planted firmly on his almost cel-shaded face, Niko Bellic could easily be a touched-up still. But it's no bullshot. The world around Bellic is bustling with activity: Bits of trash float on a digital drift of wind, people walk by, cars cruise in and out of the shot, an almost familiar skyline fills the hazy background. A palette of city sounds laid over this living diorama completes the effect.
"We decided we wanted to go back to the basics and reimagine the world," Jeronimo Barrera, Rockstar Games Vice President of Product Development, says. "The results have been incredible."
Grand Theft Auto IV is, its creators tell me, the biggest leap forward in experiential sandbox gaming to ever come to the franchise, larger even than the one that brought the once 2D top-down series into the third dimension.
"In many ways it's a bigger leap going from San Andreas to GTA IV than it was going from 2D to 3D," Barrera says.
That shift isn't delivered in one mighty leap, he adds, but rather in a collection of tweaks and changes made to the basic nature of the franchise.
"It was about hitting reset and reworking a bunch of things," he said. " We reworked everything from locomotion to targeting."
Bellic is on the street, a local tough has asked him to kill off a guy who's about to talk to police. Instead of telling him where the guy is, he suggests Bellic get his hands on a cop car and use the laptop to find out where he usually hangs out.
Bellic calls 911 on his cell phone and then when the cop car arrives, he carjacks it and drives away. In this latest GTA your wanted level corresponds to the place in which you commit the crime. As soon as you break the law a shaded circle pops up on your radar showing you where police are looking for you. If you can get out of that area before your spotted you can lose the cops and, eventually, your notoriety.
Bellic tears around the corner and drives to an area where he can pull over. When he taps into the cop car's computer a screen comes with tons of options including one to search for suspects either by name or photo. Using a pop-up QWERTY keyboard, he taps in the name and gets an address to go to which is added to the car's in-board GPS.
When Bellic tracks the guy down he runs, kicking off a car chase. The drive through town doesn't look or feel like a scripted event, and a Rockstar employee is in full control of Bellic and his stolen car, but some of the things that happen, like a large truck dumping its load of barrels onto the street, were written about by other publications which saw the game as well. I suspect that there might be a number of events like this which can be automatically triggered depending on where you are and what's happening.
After zipping through the rolling barrels, Bellic catches up with his quarry, whose car is marked with a red arrow, on a bridge and manages to fire off enough shots to first flatten the suspect's tires and then set the engine compartment on fire. The car, riding on rims now, tries to zip between two cars and misses the gap, fishtailing into a vehicle before rolling. The bad guy is thrown from the car, sliding across the bridge to stop near the railing, and then the car explodes, catapulting the would-be informant up and off the bridge.
The Rockstar guys erupt into laughter. "Did he just go off the bridge?" one asks, laughing.
The mission's complete, but Bellic still needs to get off the bridge and two cop cars are speeding toward him from the other side. He zips past them and comes to a stop. Getting out of the car, he pulls out a rocket launcher, which slides out of his pocket like a gag from a Bugs Bunny cartoon, and fires a shot off at the police cars blowing both up. Instantly, Bellic's wanted level is raised to three stars and the cacophony of an approaching army of police can be heard in the distance.
"You're three stars? How'd you get three stars?" Barrera asks of the demo player. "Oh you blew up those cop cars."
"You told me to."
The sound's getting louder.
Bellic hops back into his car and makes his way toward the other side of the bridge, as he approaches we can see that it's been blocked by police and not just police cars, but what looks to be police humvees. Bellic rams his way through and tears down into a tunnel. He makes it up through the other side as police follow in hot pursuit, guns firing. The car, now on its rims and engine smoking, rolls slowly into a gas station.
"Oh, a gas station," someone in the room says.
There is, it seems, a moment of breathless anticipation as Bellic jumps from the car and runs past rows of gas pumps. He turns to see dozens of police cars descending on his still smoking car. And then the world explodes, the image on the screen literally blurs as the car, the gas station and all of the police cars near it turn into a blooming fireball.
Bellic turns and runs down a grass hill to another highway, but two police cars are already descending on him. Above a helicopter is following. He pulls out that rocket launcher from his pocket, looks up at the sky and fires off a shot at the copter. It's hit, smoke billows from its engine, it starts to spiral, dropping suddenly to the ground about 100 feet from Bellic and explodes.
An alert pops up on the screen "ONE MAN ARMY ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED" before the demo player quickly gets rid of it and uses a cheat to rid himself of his escalating wanted level.
While the setting for this latest Grand Theft, based on Manhattan and its surrounds, isn't as large as San Andreas in terms of land mass, it's more detailed and there's more to do, the Rockstar guys tell me. You can drive boats, helicopters, motorcycles, cars, trucks, hail cabs, but you can't fly a plane.
"It's not like people in New York fly airplanes around, it's more of a helicopter town," Barrera says.
The games intertwined storyline takes place over a number of months in the city with two minutes of gameplay translating to an hour in the game world.
The game now incorporates auto-saving to make it a bit more player friendly this time around. After every mission the game saves.
"It makes it more accessible," Barrera says, "gamers shouldn't have to fight against the save system to enjoy a game."
Other neat tweaks include a cinematic mode which slows time to a crawl on the fly and can be used at anytime in the game, making it easier to do things like slip through rush hour traffic at high speeds, cab rides which can either be enjoyed from beginning to end or, for a small fee, skipped entirely. You can also bribe the cabbie to break traffic laws to get you to your destination faster.
The game's once tragically flawed targeting system has also been heavily reworked. I got a good look at the system in a mission that involved Bellic having to take out a bunch of mobsters from a construction site.
The mission starts with Bellic sniping three guards from atop a nearby high rise. The demo player takes out the first two guards with headshots. The first man toppling from his position high atop the construction site, tumbling end-over-end until he lands with a thud on the ground below, his rifle popping out of his dead hands and letting off a single shot.
The third man is taken out with a shot to the leg. As he falls to the ground, he appears to weakly flail. The man's body finally crashes into the roof of the car, crushing it flat.
Once Bellic clears the guards he makes his way across the street. The demo player, hurrying to get into the heart of the mission, lets a car clip Bellic, who falls to the ground. Getting up slowly, Bellic plants his hands in front of him, gets to his knees and then slowly stands, a nice touch.
Once in the construction site is cleared, Bellic moves into the yard and almost immediately has to duck for cover, a new addition to the game's fighting system that allows you to stick to cover like you can in games like Drake's Fortune or Gears of War.
Once in cover, Bellic can fire blindly from his hiding spot or lock onto a target and plug away at them. You can also now free fire in the game.
"It's comparable to a shooter," Barrera said.
A target's health is shown in the targeting reticule when you lock-on, while Bellic's appears in a green bar that wraps around the radar. A blue bar shows his armor, like a bullet proof vest. As Bellic's adversaries die the items they drop glow in the dark showing where to find ammo, weapons and cash. And when Bellic finally, inevitably, dies in the heat of battle the world fades to black and white.
The game will, Rockstar has said, feature multiplayer, but they're not quite ready to talk details on what that will entail. They did tell me that there won't be cooperative multiplayer because it wouldn't really fit in with the game's story.
'There's really only one main character, so it wouldn't fit," Barrera said.
As with most of Rockstar's games there are definite cultural themes at play in Grand Theft Auto IV, though in this game it might not be as easily definable as the gang culture of San Andreas or school culture of Bully.
"There is an immigrant theme, a world culture theme," Barrera says. "This is Rockstar's ten year anniversary and when we got started we all moved to New York at the same time, so there's a lot of that in there.
"The beauty of our games is that we don't hire a research firm to figure out what we should be making games about."
Instead they make it about the things that interest them, and it it shows.


































Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
PurpleSfinx
Posted February 13, 2008 12:27 AM
I read this whole post, and it was cool - thanks alot Kotaku. I look forward to playing this but I just don't know if I want to spend another $100 to play another 3rd person driving and shooting game in the SAME city I've bought twice already. People complained that Halo 3 was just Halo 2.5, but at least it had new environments. Anyway, posts like these help me see what they've added and what they've changed. Hopefully it's enough.
HOVA
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Very well written..
HOVA
WillW
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I gotta buy this
WillW
Xeneizes
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Can't wait. Sounds great! :)
Xeneizes
jfx316
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
i ACTUALLY liked SA more then vice city. both were amazing games, but SA had more to do, IMO. i think that people still have a hard-on for scarface the movie and people generally not caring about the company of black gangster guys is clouding peoples' opinions about the game, because they played the same.
not a big deal. people a least give SA it's props for (still) being an awesome game. i'm looking forward to seeing the detail in the new game. the talk radio station is going to be the best of all the games, i'm sure.
jfx316
H2oGatesy
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Brian
WIN!
I loved the part where he gets blown off the bridge too. Thanks again man.
H2oGatesy
Brian Crecente
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Crimefighta: Yeah just realized that a superfluous X got into the name. By the way it's château not chateau.
A bullshot, is a touched up screenshot. [en.wikipedia.org]
nonplussed: A state of perplexity, confusion, or bewilderment.
Did you mean to say you weren't meaning to be a dack in your original post or did you mean to say dick? Because I'm not sure about the former but I'd think that someone who makes such a huge issue about an extra letter in a story containing nearly 12,000 of them is probably a text book example of the latter.
Brian Crecente
joelface
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
will this game run in 1080P?
SOMEONE TELL ME!
joelface
cwilkey
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I have been waiting for this thing and wondering if was really going to be worth the wait.....yeah...it's gonna be worth the wait. Great article!
cwilkey
Prodigys Flawless
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
this game is going to serve some serious ass when it hit store shelves. I'm going to buy this on release day.
Prodigys Flawless
el_rezzo
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Great article guys, a lot more indepth than i've read else where. Sounds like the little things in this game is what will make it great.
el_rezzo
H2oGatesy
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Awesome read, thanks Brian!
@Crimefighta Monday can't come soon enough.
H2oGatesy
zanzibarlegend
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Brian Crecente: great post! talk about getting people hyped again. i need to go pre-order my special edition right away! write ups like these will keep checking this site 4eva.
peace
zanzibarlegend
joelface
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
i hope that when it was mentioned there was no co-op, it was meant for the ACTUAL story, and not for all multiplayer modes together.
there has to be a free-roam co-op mode, where you just go enjoy the city with your friends online. if there is no mode of that variety, it is a HUGE loss for the game.
on the plus side, this is the first i've heard about how the cinematic mode allows you to slow time down to a snails pace at ANY time. that should come in handy.. although im sure its a bar that needs to charge, or something, rather than being available at all times.
OH, i have a QUESTION! will this game run in 1080P?
/hopes
joelface
mettleh3d
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
CANNOT WAITTTTTTTTTTT!
mettleh3d
phalanges
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Thanks for the preview Brian. I have one question. When will they finally release gameplay screens/videos? Thanks.
phalanges
robinhood_0
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
"before your spotted" should be "before YOU'RE spotted"
Non-plussed means disappointed not indifferent or bored
robinhood_0
VivaLaLazlow
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Pombar: Wow, I don't even know how to explain how amazing wrong and dumb that comment was.
Crackdown was fun, but how the hell could you say it has the upper hand on GTAIV in any aspect?
VivaLaLazlow
cdr
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Pombar:
*facepalm*
cdr
Bleeeee
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
wow, i definately can't wait to play this now
Bleeeee
nujabes02
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Sounds great!
nujabes02
AceLosesKing
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Never played a GTA game for longer than 5 minutes (never owned a PS2/xbox. GTAIV looks awesome though and I think its the game I'll be buying a PS3/360 for.
Great article Crecente.
AceLosesKing
Truepatriot
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@monchberter:
dont forget that all 3 cities were part of gta1. =)
maybe with gta4 they will follow gta2s cities...
great preview crecente.cant wait for gta im a huge gta fan i even love the 2d ones
Truepatriot
okenny :)
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Time to go reserve a pre-order :(
okenny :)
K-Squad! (Badass Edition)
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
ANNOUNCE THE RELEASE DATE FOR THE PC BEFORE I COMMIT SUICIDE YOU BASTARDS!!!! lol...
K-Squad! (Badass Edition)
Akmed
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
will there be Trophys for HOME as well? that would be cool... same as achievements.
Akmed
Akmed
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
give us a video. i DEMAND it. lol, i, along with many others would love to see the action. i can only Imagine how awesome this will be. that is, until it comes out April 29...
i just want real gameplay footage.... or a demo. which both won't happen most likely.
Akmed
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I wonder if my house is in it...
Also, if they wanted to go for realism with the wanted levels and police corresponding with the area, then it should take them 20 to 30 minutes to arrive after the crime has been committed, of course trimmed down to GTA IV time.
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Crimefighta
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
oh and:
by trouble i mean thesauri.
and
@Dukeman330:
snap...
Crimefighta
Bisu
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Its posts like these that make me remember how awesome GTAs are. Cant wait!
Bisu
Crimefighta
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Brian Crecente:
this is ridiculous, but alas:
[www.chateaumarmont.com]
look at all them x's.
but like, you're not far off. if there were multiple marmont's strewn up and down the strip, it would in fact be chateaux marmont. chateaux out the ass.
how did you mean nonplussed?
and are we referring to the pennyarcadian definition of bullshot?
i just figure if you're going to go through all the trouble of writing such high-falutin' features, i can at least stand to learn something.
Crimefighta
Akmed
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
OMFG CHEATS CONFIRMED!!!
lol, i haven't read it all yet....
Akmed
impreza
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Cannot wait. Not in the least.
Excellent article none-the-less, certainly re-sparked my interest in this game, it should reach epic perportions.
impreza
ShinjiKinomoto
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I'm not going to waste my money again. I bought GTA3 because of the praise and got burned by the frustrating controls, certain missions that I could never pass even with cheats because of poor handling of cars, etc. It's not a series for me. Then again I am not a fan of sand box games, so I shouldn't of been playing with it in the first place.
ShinjiKinomoto
Brian Crecente
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Crimefighta: wrong and wrong.. and wrong.
Brian Crecente
Nick Brutal
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
That achievement should be worth 40 points!
Good preview, Brian. Looking forward to this one.
Nick Brutal
Draconis
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Good read. Looks like Rockstar really is trying their hardest to overhaul their primary cash cow.
Draconis
Sloopydrew
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
This article and X-Play's preview saying the combat and cover system was similar to Gears of War has really peaked my interest. I knew they'd get me. They always get me. I can't escape this series no matter how hard I try. At this point I could write a book, "Dr. Sloopy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Grand Theft."
Sloopydrew
housewarmer
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Dukeman330: Yeah, and Châteaux Marmont does in fact have a frickin x in it.
housewarmer
D3Anon
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I have the CE 360 edition already paid and reserved, will be getting this on release day.
D3Anon
monchberter
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
To be honest, i think it sounds exactly like all of it's predecessors, but tarted up graphically and a few more touches.
I do enjoy the GTA series, but they do just seem to be rehashing old ideas, see if you can spot a theme:
GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas
Liberty City, Vice City, ...
GTA4, ...
They already look like they are heading down the NYC, Miami, California route to me, what about a proper break with the past guys?
monchberter
Morph_inc.
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Nice read. But sorry - really disappointed about the lack of co-op. Was fun having a buddy over and just messing around in SA, each controlling one character on the same screenview. PITY so many game devs these days just completely rule out the possibility of people actually NOT playing a game alone in their livingroom @home. Be it Splitscreen, be it one screen view.
Motorstorm - shame on you. Conan - shame on you. Burnout Paradise - shame on you. Just to mention a few. Yoh! Gimme some SPLITSCREEN! Bias.
Played through Resistance FOM three times with three different buddies. Hellouvafun.
Morph_inc.
mr.dandy
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I was so bummed when the release got bumped back, I can't wait!
I really hope there will be bicycles again in GTAIV. After finishing the GTASA missions, I had a lot of fun going on bicycle rampages, since you can bunnyhop over obstacles, survive ungodly falls, shoot any direction, and they are completely indestructible, even after a gigantic pileup explosion! Nothing was quite as satisfying as picking up your bike after a horrifying, fiery bloodbath, pedaling away and giving a little *ring-ring* on the bell.
mr.dandy
Dudemeister
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
"I can fit a rocket launcher.. in my pants."
This game is looking and sounding amazing. I can't wait to play it.
Dudemeister
gboomski
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Crimefighta:
My man, itz all aboutz teh sp3lling mistakes! It's Kotaku, not Ko-Write-U!!!!!!!
gboomski
Brian Crecente
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@jackal888: To be clear, when I asked them about co-op multiplayer we were talking about the storyline, so it could be that they were referring to the storyline when they said it wouldn't fit.
Brian Crecente
TheToiletDuck
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
This is a great article, like Deadeyereborn this has me interested in the game again.
TheToiletDuck
Allen750
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I still will not buy this game... Maybe rent/borrow...
Allen750
goddessakasha
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Fantastic article.... I'm actually really excited for this game now!
goddessakasha
Vecha
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@wisconsinista:
You are the one who sounds like the troll.
Vecha
jackal888
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@creid: The Co-op did fit in San Andreas. it was a Bonny and Clyde style moment. I do love San Andreas. I play it all the time. nothing like rolling through the hood.
jackal888
NoFunShogun
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Nice. I like the inclusion of the area wanted system like they had in Scarface.
.... I only hope that they don't have it where you die once you reach a certain level from a police sniper round.
NoFunShogun
ssjmichael
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I love all the changes described here. The new wanted system sounds more logical than the previous one for sure. Can't wait.
ssjmichael
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@dead_red_eyes: @Campion:
Personally, I keep motorcycles in them. Most of the time, they are police bikes. Sure, I can't bunny-hop, but the maneuverability and speed make up for it.
PapaBear434
Agnostic
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I already have been drinking the GTA Kool-Aid. Every time I read a preview I get all tingly in those special places. 77 days and counting!
Agnostic
Akmed
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
wow, i just hope it'll feel like a next-gen GTA. with all the fun previous ones had. this seems to show that it will.
Akmed
rainofwalrus [XBL]
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
IV had better have 3-wheel motion or I'm not buying it. ^_-
rainofwalrus [XBL]
Kamizzle
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Awesome preview Crecente!
Even though I had already read about both missions on numerous sites, you had me glued to the tip of my couch!
I'm going to make love to this game, and it's not going to be pretty, it's probably going to be very scary, therefor nobody is invited to the love making.
Kamizzle
WEGGLES90
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Oh my goodness. First the L4D article in OXM gets me all excited about that, now this about GTA IV. It's a wonder how I sleep at night at all, the anticipation is killing me.
WEGGLES90
dead_red_eyes
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Campion:
Hell yeah. I've got bikes in every garage too.
Sadly, I'm betting that there will be no bikes at all in GTA:IV.
dead_red_eyes
Ping5000
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Sounds good, but GTA's gameplay has always felt clunky to me. IV seems to be on the right track, though.
Ping5000
dead_red_eyes
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Witzbold:
Agreed Witzy. The first thing I did in GTA:SA was ride a bicycle around until I built up all the experience that I could. It was fun bunny hopping gaps and pulling tricks off of things.
dead_red_eyes
SAKY
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@PapaBear434: lol
SAKY
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@SAKY:
You say that like I care about reality. Reality does not concern me or my demands.
PapaBear434
SAKY
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@PapaBear434: @dead_red_eyes: april 29th release = not much time for changes to the game.
@Brian Crecente: thanks again!
SAKY
Campion
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Witzbold: YES. I keep bikes in every garage -- they're so great for getting around town...
Campion
JohnnytheFuture
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Great read Crecente, I never needed much convincing concerning this game, but from the wealth of positive comments, you've done your job well. Only makes me more excited!
JohnnytheFuture
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Fyren:
I think people are talking about the girlfriend minigame, in which you had the second controller hooked up, and at one of your girlfriends houses you could press start and the both of you go on a rampage, killing everything in sight.
PapaBear434
Bluecell
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@wisconsinista: lol. overreact much?
Bluecell
heretrix
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
The masters of the open world genre hazz returned.
Clap and show your appreciation.
heretrix
Fyren
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Co-op on SA was a clunky mod.
Unless I missed something for the console world.
Besides Liberty City, I played all GTA series on a PC.
Fyren
Father ColdCuts
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
WOW! just WOW! (not world of warcraft you idiot!) Just WOW!
Father ColdCuts
TheHun
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@wisconsinista: wow why the hate? i think he should get the 360 version if he's interested in the exclusive content, otherwise it obviously doesn't matter. I just said to get the 360 version anyways as a slight joke, hence the ":p"
TheHun
Jandre02
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Yeah really. It may eliminate any point to every other game for months. And if the MP is half as good then it may mean trouble for all other devs for awhile.
Jandre02
creid
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
They took out co-op?? Agh. This was a GREAT feature in San Andreas. It didn't "fit" in that game either. But it was FUN.
creid
Bluecell
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@shufflemoomin: Pertaining to the article, some of the things mentioned that I consider to be inovative:
The player calls 911 to get hold of a cop car. Alternatively, you can just raise hell as in previous games until a cop comes to stop you.
As soon as you break the law a shaded circle pops up on your radar showing you where police are looking for you. If you can get out of that area before your spotted you can lose the cops and, eventually, your notoriety.
I thought that was pretty cool. Didn't know that before.
He then uses the computer in the police car to search what Rockstar says is a massive database of criminals for his objective, which is then entered into the GPS system.
Then there's the Euphoria engine which gives characters a sense of self-preservation. As mentioned in construction site portion of the article, people react to the environment in unique ways. Your character will brace himself for pain such as the impact of an oncoming car if he can see it coming.
There's also a new cover system which is leaps and bounds above the "stand there and get peppered with bullets from all directions until you die" system.
The people in the world have changed as well. Rather than have NPCs wandering blindly on the sidewalks and driving the streets in circles waiting for you to run them over or jack their car, people have places to go. They buy hotdogs, get mugged, go to work and generally interact with each other.
Car chase, target gets out with arrow above him, easily take him down, wanted level raises, cops come after you, road blocks appear, helicoptor turns up. It's EXACTLY the same as the others in the franchise.
True. But that's the core GTA gameplay, and if you don't like that, you won't like the game.
What's innovative is the immersive and complex world that's wrapped around what you mentioned.
Bluecell
Kum0
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Oh My God the media blackout has droppped.
This game is gonna be too AWESOME!
Kum0
finalgearsolid
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Yeah, this was a really well-written article. Good stuff, Kotaku. I really, really got into Vice City and got 100% in that game, but I didn't really care for San Andreas at all since it was the same basic principle with RPG elements that weren't fun and a city that I felt was too big. This seems like it's going to be a great game, but any word on a PC release? I always prefer the console rendition of a game, but I think the GTA series has always been better on the PC, and despite how much I want this game now, I'm not willing to buy it on either console.
finalgearsolid
MrPerson
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
No airplanes = good. At least if they control like in San Andreas. Freakin' impossbly twitchy buggers.
MrPerson
Naif
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
this is going to take a few minutes to read...
*sits back into chair*
Naif
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@dowingba:
I think you missed the point. They accepted money to make DLC for Microsoft, and not for Sony, thus making the 360 version the obvious better choice. It was kind of a dick move, and I'd feel the same way about it if Sony was the one who bought the content.
But, as I said, my personal scruples are getting sold out because the game looks far to cool to pass up.
PapaBear434
BloodStainedVendetta
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
=O Gawd, this game sounds TOO good.
BloodStainedVendetta
Eli Reusch
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Hot damn, that sounds fun. I can't wait for this one.
Eli Reusch
Dukeman330
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Crimefighta: I don't want to be a dick but you misspelled dick.
Dukeman330
dowingba
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@PapaBear434: I'm pretty sure it's already confirmed to be...third person.
dowingba
dowingba
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@PapaBear434: If you don't like that, then get the PS3 version. I'm assuming Sony didn't pay Rockstar any money to get the gimped version of the game.
And why wouldn't you want to support one of the best developers out there today? Rockstar are simply superb.
dowingba
Witzbold
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I do hope they let me ride around on a bycicle again though ala GTA SA, since that was some hilarious shit.
Witzbold
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@dead_red_eyes:
They have it coming out in Mercenaries: World in Flames, and I believe they are planning it for the PS3 exclusive "Infamous" and in the multiplatform game "Prototype."
Sandbox games are my crack. Make them multiplayer... I may never finish school.
@Brian Crecente:
Please, PLEASE tell them to make it third person, via Gears of War or Uncharted. You are a big wig in the game industry now, you have some sway. For the love of GOD, make it non-targeting lock. They have never been able to pull it off quite right.
PapaBear434
EnigmaNemesis
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Awesome write-up Kotaku! Best preview I have read on this yet!
The game looks and sounds amazing! I haven't cared for a GTA since 3, and even that I wasn't too into, but this sounds awesome!
EnigmaNemesis
tk.
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Okay, now they've got my attention. Dammit.
tk.
-MoarPlz-
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Campion: It wasn't funny, just lame...
-MoarPlz-
PapaBear434
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I was going to bow out of this game, because I wanted no part of contributing to the idea that MS or Sony paying money to a game company to essentially gimp the equality of the game by putting DLC on one and not the other system.
I am afraid I am going to have to renege on personal convictions, though. This looks to damn good to pass up.
/still plays GTA: SA
PapaBear434
Brian Crecente
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@SAKY: No word, but i've asked them for clarification.
Brian Crecente
WolfGod
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Pornosaur: Agreed, April does seem far away now after reading this. The delay was well worth it.
WolfGod
DigitalHero
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Can't...friggin...wait...
They hype is starting to boil over and I'm loving every minute of it.
DigitalHero
Zeouterlimits
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I've never been a huge GTA fan.....
but I'm interested to see how this one works out... could be a purchase for me.
Zeouterlimits
Campion
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@wisconsinista: Does anyone remember humor?
Anyway, the bit about the police computer makes me wonder if the 360 chatpad will be supported. Minor, I know, but I'm curious...
Campion
-MoarPlz-
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Meh, we'll see.
-MoarPlz-
Pornosaur
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
That write up just made April seem so far from now.
Pornosaur
dead_red_eyes
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Also, I'm a bit bummed that there's no co-op, I was really hoping for that. Do we have to wait for Crackdown 2 for another co-op sandbox game?
There seriously needs to be more co-op love in games these days.
dead_red_eyes
dead_red_eyes
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@SAKY:
Dude, he just posted the article. Give him a freaking break.
Great article B.C.! Can't wait for this game!
dead_red_eyes
PGGB
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@cresente: nice work buddy. that's some fine expository story telling.
i had lost hope on this game, and i've been there since the beginning. when i was like 11, when the original gta came out, a buddy and i used to play just the demo (that was time-limited to a minute and a half) for hours on end.
not since then have i been this excited over a gta game. thanks man.
PGGB
Jackel2072
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
No co-op? why can't me and a friend just screw around in the city getting into a fight with cops?? errrr!
Jackel2072
Heliophage
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I want this game.
*moves a pillow over his lap*
...what?
Heliophage
Yakuzaice
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Hopefully the autosaving is optional.
Yakuzaice
dowingba
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@wisconsinista: I'm almost certain you don't need an HD-DVD player or a wireless adapter to play this game.
dowingba
FreakyFraser
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
After skipping San Andreas, looks like GTA is back on my 'must buy' list.
Gotta fill my Crackdown/Mercenaries jones with something....and this looks to be a pretty good something.
FreakyFraser
djbrandon
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
i'm re-impressed thus far!
djbrandon
WreckTheLaw
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Very very pleased with this article; Really great action descriptions, and you really captured the spirit and theme of that I think Rockstar is going for in GTAIV. This will be the preview that I link people to when they ask why they should care about GTAIV. Great stuff!
WreckTheLaw
shufflemoomin
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Am I the only one who's hype is actually dying down a little after reading this? Where's the innovation they promised? Yeah, they've shined it up, but who cares? What was mentioned in this preview that you couldn't do in the other games? Car chase, target gets out with arrow above him, easily take him down, wanted level raises, cops come after you, road blocks appear, helicoptor turns up. It's EXACTLY the same as the others in the franchise. What's new about all this? I'm seriously asking, someone tell me what innovation has been put in that doesn't just make this simply more of the same with some next-gen shine?
shufflemoomin
ph15h
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
And for awhile I thought it was going to be too realistic to be enjoyable... Yay weapons popping outta pockets! I'm interested again. Now question is: 360 or PS3 version...
ph15h
kelptocratic
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Must have. Anyone know a reputable cryogenics firm?
kelptocratic
Tacobake
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
want.
Tacobake
Bluecell
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Thank you euphoria engine.
This is going to be a great game and is definitely my next buy.
I've heard this mission detailed a few times, along with another mission where you have to find a guy by calling his cellphone and spotting him in a crowd when he answers. It's all the little things that are going to make this game incredible.
Bluecell
wisconsinista
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@TheHun: Thanks. Should I also get the HD-DVD player too! Man I may also need the add-on wireless adapter too eh? -for the multiplayer!? What other insight could you bestow upon us?
fucking troll
wisconsinista
Ra on the Moon.
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
only 47 days left!!
Ra on the Moon.
terraform
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Why.. why can't I have this game right now. NOW NOW NOW!
terraform
kyosen
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Sounds like it'll be just as good as San Andreas, and I would say I'm more excited, but I can't be any more excited as I've had this game pre-ordered since 06'. Excellent write up btw, but let's hope it doesn't build up expectations ala molyneux. Any game, well most, can have their action sequences detailed in similar ways. Hate to see this game take a dive due to hype though I honestly doubt that's possible.
kyosen
Adam Rock
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Pure poetry.
Adam Rock
FoxHoundADAM
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
GTA4's evel of realism is mind boggling. I'm almost affraid the game will be "too real".
FoxHoundADAM
Gray665
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Wow, I can't wait to play this game. I never did much more than ride around causing havok in the other ones but this one looks to be a lot more immersive. The question remains whether it will be able to come close to the pure joy that was bounding from building to building in Crackdown.
Gray665
meltyman
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@panfriedcharlie:
its not an exclusive, i read a different take on the same levels at ign a couple of weeks ago.
man, i cant wait for this, but i hope they've figured out how to fix mission restarts, since san andreas, i hated those awful missions where u travelled halfway across the map and or had multipart to the mission and then if u died at any time, would have to go all the way back to restart.
meltyman
GhaleonUnlimited
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
It better be actually NEW, or it's not getting my $60. To me VC and SA we different skins of the same original game, so did not purchase. ACTUAL new gameplay would be nice instead of HAY BIGGER CITY NEW GRAPHCXX. I'm looking forward to this, but almost every "new gameplay!" experience this gen has been weak.
GhaleonUnlimited
TheHun
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@RBecho: If you want the extra exclusive content go with the 360 version. If not, then also go with the 360 version :p
TheHun
thegreatseal
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Holy crap. This looks amazing. And I'm not much of a GTA fan.
thegreatseal
Spoony Bard
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I never understood why they called it GTA IV and not VI. But now I think I do - it's a complete reinvention, unlike the last 2 which were essentially extensions of the GTA III experience.
Spoony Bard
Witzbold
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I still hope they let me drive a tank that I can break the laws of physics with! :D
Witzbold
Livid
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I know a lot of stuff has happened with Rockstar since San Andreas came out, but I really have confidence that these guys are gonna release a great game. And I can't wait.
Livid
bluesquareapple
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I'm starting to fall in love with GTA all over again with this preview..
bluesquareapple
geoffcbassett
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Wow, this game was completely off my radar, now its a must buy. For the jacking the cop car and using the computer alone is astounding, whoever is their lead programmer must never sleep to implement all this variety. Oh and the idea of people flying out of their cars when they are hit astounds me.
geoffcbassett
Ra on the Moon.
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Gonna be best game of the year.
Ra on the Moon.
BuckTwenty
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Jesus, I need to get a 360. So bad.
BuckTwenty
panfriedcharlie
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Great exclusive -- thanks for this.
panfriedcharlie
Angryrider
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I'm impressed. Can't wait to play it!
Angryrider
cdammers
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
What Dowingba said. I'm stoked for the game, but from what you've said I don't get where the big leap is. The combat system should make a big difference, but then Saints Row had better combat than GTA and that didn't make it a better game.
cdammers
mnml10387
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Awesome Keep those previews coming!!!
mnml10387
RBecho
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Great preview, better than the others I have read (even though it followed the same story arcs as the other previews). Now I just need to decide PS3 or 360 for this, as I haven't taken the HD plunge yet. All I know is that I do want this game.
RBecho
TheHun
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
This game is going to be awesome, can't wait!!
@samuraisul: LOL
TheHun
JohnRabbit
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@Deadeyereborn: Exactly. I can't really tell why, as nothing revealed in this article is particularly "news" to me. I'm totally psyched for this game again.
JohnRabbit
EL_RIEL
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
*heads up*
I got my preorder @ amazon.. free GTA1V licence plate! =D
EL_RIEL
DaiMacculate
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Great article, I'm starting to get really pumped for this game after months of relative apathy ;)
DaiMacculate
Mike Maximus
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Awesome article. I haven't really been following any news and such on GTA4 because I haven't really enjoyed the series since 3 and Vice City. But reading that makes me want to go put a pre-order down right now.
Mike Maximus
dukesnipez
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Shame about the lack of co-op, but I've never turned down a GTA game before and I'm not about to start now. I sincerely hope it lives up to my expectations.
dukesnipez
samuraisul
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Is that a rocket-launcher in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
samuraisul
TitillatedOcelot
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I have to say, I lost interest not long after I saw the first details of this game. But just when I thought I was clear of it, I find myself really wanting this. The more infor I hear the more I'm liking.
TitillatedOcelot
Deux_ExMachina
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
It's too bad that there will be no coop but the rest of it sounds awesome.
Deux_ExMachina
Kirbytheslayer: is dancing
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Wow. That was a long and detailed article.
Excellent.
Also, now I'm excited for GTA4, a game I wasn't even planning to get earlier.
Kirbytheslayer: is dancing
HorseJacked
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Alrighty then... That was pretty well written. It made reading it all the more enjoyable. Well, that, and the fact that the game seems to feel more like a reality with each day.
HorseJacked
Ghede
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I hope they add one feature: As long as you are in a cop-car, they ALWAYS look for you, the circle should encompass the entire map, until you take it a shady auto-shop or something.
Why? Lojack. [sic?]
Ghede
NeverSage
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
@dowingba: I agree. This game may be amazing but I highly doubt it'll be a bigger leap than 3 was to 2
NeverSage
Arkanius
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Marvelous! The game looks fantastic, and the setting is way better than the San Andreas one (I hated the whole ghetto crap).
I'm loving the tweaks being made.
P.S Seems its really confirmed that the lead platform is the Xbox 360 since its the one doing the test previews and such.
Arkanius
CaptLtrl
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Sounds fantastic. I love what they did with the star ratings. I always hated the fact that no matter where you went in previous GTA games, if you had a wanted ranking, there were cops everywhere.
CaptLtrl
Saint Anima: Kotaku's Poetic Massacre
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Can't wait for this game. Gonna be good fun.
Saint Anima: Kotaku's Poetic Massacre
Vecha
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
wow...just wow... -head explodes-
Sorry I haven't read it yet....just looking at pics... -drools-
Vecha
Sai-kun
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Wow. This has convinced me to look into GTAIV more.
I wasn't interested before, but I sure as hell am now.
Sai-kun
Pombar
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I'm just having trouble getting excited for it after Crackdown. I was never that much into the story missions, and in terms of pure sandbox mucking about, Crackdown still seems to have the upper hand.
Pombar
Crimefighta
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I don't want to be a dack but Chateau doesn't have an x in it and you're mis-using nonplussed.
Crimefighta
dowingba
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
It sounds alot like other GTA games. Not a bad thing at all, but I so far fail to see where this huge leap is coming from. In fact, it's starting to sound more like Vice City than San Andreas (also a good thing).
dowingba
mattmoto
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Wow, this was a pleasant surprise. Awesome feature, Kotaku!
mattmoto
SAKY
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Mr. Crecente?
SAKY
Setzer IIDX
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
I don't even LIKE GTA. But this looks like a Masterpiece.
Setzer IIDX
SAKY
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
"the trageting system has been reworked"
is it autoaiming still? if not I imagine a FPS style of aiming. Am I right? If so, do the options include Southpaw and Legacy?!?!?!?
SAKY
nikolajz1
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
wow this may have been the best GTA IV preview I've read. The excitment keeps building. I have had my doubts but I think Rockstar is gonna pull it off again.
nikolajz1
Witzbold
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
This just sounds too excellent!
Really will be looking foward to it.
Although I do hope they will have more buildings you can go inside of and such.
Witzbold
Malidictus
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Can't wait for this game, its been nearly 3 and a half years since San Andreas by the time it is released.
Malidictus
Deadeyereborn
Posted 5:02 PM 16/2/08
Ok this article just got me interested in the game again.
Deadeyereborn