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Netflix Drops HD-DVD, Too
Posted by Michael McWhertor at 8:40 AM on February 12, 2008
Followers of the high definition disc wars will probably care about online movie rental outfit Netflix putting all of its eggs in the Blu-ray basket, just like everyone else who isn't Microsoft has. The company announced today that, "as of now," it will only purchase movies in the Sony-backed format, phasing out HD-DVD by the end of the year. Subscribers, including yours truly, have already been informed of the change, but a handy press release from Netflix lays the whole thing out.
We can't wait until we stop having to pretend to care about the format war, but anticipate the thousands of submissions featuring Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-ons repurposed for homemade Gundam suits and whatnot. Someone's probably in the process of gutting an NES and stuffing it in the thing right now.
Netflix, Citing a Clear Signal From the Industry, Will Carry High-Def DVDs Only in Blu-ray Format [Netflix - thanks, everyone!]

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Gadgetron
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
the netflix email was the nail in the coffin for me and hd-dvd. I went to eb this afternoon and traded in the hd-dvd drive, and 11 hd-dvd's. All in all it was worth 96.00.
somehow i feel good about the trade, no longer tied to a dead format professor layton will be all the sweeter.
Gadgetron
Heyyou27
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Maybe I'll finally be able to rent a Blu-ray movie; I went to my local blockbuster on saturday to try and rent 3:10 to Yuma on Blu-ray and they only had two copies, both of which were out. There were probably 30 copies of it on DVD, but I decided I was better off downloading it on Live at 720p.
Heyyou27
Ixero
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I guess this is a great time to buy those medicore HD-DVD movies.
Ixero
thelken
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@topaz420:You mean *one* great format. All the rest (including BD) have never taken off.
thelken
zanzibarlegend
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
paramount needs to end this....that other format is getting beat like a red-headed stepchild.
zanzibarlegend
Gadgetron
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Tepoz: ugh i want to forget all about divx...its a shame apple brought that zombie whore back from the dead.
Gadgetron
AverageJoes
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kenninator: Obviously you weren't around when DVD was new. They said the same things about DVD as they do now about either HD format. DVDs were $30 back then too.
"It's not a big jump in quality" "$30 is too much" "My VHS is perfectly fine" "Well in a few years I'll just have to buy something else to replace this"
AverageJoes
Smadubaku
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Good old DVD's? Must not have a 1080p or either hi-def format to make a claim like that. Regular DVD's burn my retinas and do not suit me just fine.
I guess I'm the big loser though. I have both. Someone was going to lose. Glad I quit buying HD's after Bourne Ultimatum and had started buying Blu-Ray whenever there was an option - guess I figured this was coming. I'll still be watching those until the HDDVD player konks out. Then I'll have to re-purchase Matrix Trilogy, Bourne Trilogy, etc... etc...
Smadubaku
Spiral
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kenninator:
id love to see xbox360 and ps3 die out. $59.99 for a video game? Nice try but im sticking with good old $49.99 games.
Spiral
Kenninator
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Personally, I'd like to see both formats die out. $30 for a movie? Nice try, but I'm sticking with good old DVDs thank you very much.
Kenninator
Kj719
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@DigitalHero: HD-DVD must be a zombie that takes infinite head shots to kill...damn...this format war will never end I guess :o/
Kj719
goldwings
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Still lots of nails left for that coffin.
goldwings
Onizuka-GTO
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
i hope this makes HD-DVD dammn bloody cheap so i can use it to finally burn off an entire series of my beloved anime on one disc, locking it into hard storage so it can locked away in a vault to be protect in the upcoming nuclear apocalypses, and used as historic reference for my degenerative descendants.
*lovingly backup all 14 episodes of Haruhi anime and novels*
Onizuka-GTO
DigitalHero
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Haha. How many times has HD-DVD died this year? All these announcements are like headshots.
DigitalHero
Evo
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@TakeoNinja: not gonna work as long as most people don't have high-rate connection. It takes me 6 hours just to download 700MB file and I'm on ADSL 2 connection. I also have a bandwidth cap of 20GB. There's no way I'm going to waste it all just to download 1 movie on top of having to wait days just to see it.
Evo
Sailorcancer
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
HDDVD needs a KILLER title to come back in.
Sailorcancer
coktoe
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@CRASHLANDING.It's not about comfort,or a replacement product doing the same thing.If you invest in a format that is in a "war" with another format,you want your choice to win.Natch.I agree with your asessment of HD-DVD/Blu Ray though.
coktoe
Tiberian
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Poor HD-DVD. You were always the cheapest HD format for consumers. But alas, consumers have spoken and they want Blu-ray.
Tiberian
Scott22
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
This Sucks...
I was a late adopter to netflix and just picked up a cheap hd-dvd player I also have ps3 which i use 99% as a blu-ray player (because it sux as a game console)but I so happy to be a net flix subscriber because I got the choice of either or...
You know with msft's backing bl;u-ray will go away before HD-DVD.
This gives me the much needed push to go to Blockbuster Total Access.. Plus i can get game rentals for free.
Screw Netflix and Sony
Scott22
tme2nsb
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I am so sad to see HD-DVD pull through..as I've always considered Sony to be shit. Except for the PS2. rOh well,, I give up I guess.
tme2nsb
crashlanding
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
It's amazing to see the "console war" attitudes being spread into the format war. I guess people get really upset when something they feel comfortable with is suddenly taken away, even if the replacement does the same thing seamlessly.
If you like hi def media be glad that Toshiba and it's partners weren't successful. The limitations in storage space caused the move to a new disc in the first place, and HD-DVD is short on storage compared to BD. Why would anyone want what amounts to a stop gap solution, just to do this again in 5-6 years? To end up with something like BluRay anyway?
crashlanding
SSJPabs
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Microsoft! Defeated!
SSJPabs
Islandkiwi
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Funny...I have a PS3 and I don't own an HD-DVD, but I was hoping HD-DVD would gain some serious market share with the lowering of their prices. Warner Bros. last minute decision to go Blu-Ray really took the wind out of HD-DVD's sails.
HD-DVD made sense to me. No regional coding, and a nice transition between regular dvd and HD-DVD by offering combo discs. I think HD-DVD went awry by not offering their movies at lower prices than Blu-Ray...after all, their manufacturing costs were lower, that price should have been passed to the consumer.
Oh well.
Islandkiwi
Father-Time
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
New format?
Err . . . there was another storage system I heard about that can store more than blu-ray on a cheaper disc (it was developed after the blu-ray vs. HD-DVD war started) although that may have been a rumor.
You know come to think of it I can't think of any possible gimmick that Sony can bring to PS4.
Oh wait a minute, I forgot about mods.
Father-Time
reptile168
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
let's see what format would Sony use in the playstation 4 to force another trojan victory to replace Bluray.. if bluray ever succeeded (a win against HD DVD doesn't count. It must at least attain a DVD-level)
reptile168
ZinkO: Neo-Confucian Literati '08
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
HD-DVD is dead... again. sploof. still don't care, DVDs are fine.
ZinkO: Neo-Confucian Literati '08
JackTretton
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
It seems Best Buy has followed Suit also
JackTretton
DiSTiNCT
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
HMV Canada will be going Blu-Ray only as well.
DiSTiNCT
brandonf
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
It's dead Jim.
brandonf
-EDGE-
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
can the "official" people, who ever they may be just call this one...so we can all just move on to Blu-Ray, or just stick to plain old DVD. Thanks in advance.
-EDGE-
dadeisvenm
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kyle81: BD sale in general, not only Video sales.
Example...
Salesman X tells client Y , "Blu-Ray disc sales are 3 time that of HD-DVD."
(but salesman X does not disclose medium usage like, movies, games, data storage audio mastering, etc.)
dadeisvenm
PSN ID: Kadaj24
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@sauvage:
It's official now, they just released a Press Release:
MINNEAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Best Buy Co., Inc. (NYSE: BBY) is taking a step forward in addressing consumer confusion about high-definition formats. Beginning in early March, the leading consumer electronics retailer will prominently showcase Blu-ray hardware and software products in its Best Buy retail and online channels in the United States.
"Consumers have told us that they want us to help lead the way. We've listened to our customers, and we are responding. Best Buy will recommend Blu-ray as the preferred format," said Brian Dunn, Best Buy's president and chief operating officer. "Our decision to shine a spotlight on Blu-ray Disc players and other Blu-ray products is a strong signal to our customers that we believe Blu-ray is the right format choice for them."
Dunn continued, "Best Buy has always believed that the customer will benefit from a widely-accepted single format that would offer advantages such as product compatibility and expanded content choices. Because we believe that Blu-ray is fast emerging as that single format, we have decided to focus on Blu-ray products."
"With the explosion of HDTVs, customers are hungry for quality, high definition content. We believe our move to feature Blu-ray should help consumers feel confident in their hi-def content choices," said Mike Vitelli, Best Buy's senior vice president, Home Solutions. "Best Buy is excited by the next generation of digital products and we know our customers are too. We are excited about helping customers find the right mix of products and services to make the next generation of high definition entertainment technology come alive for them. We believe that Blu-ray is the right solution for consumers."
Best Buy currently carries a wide array of Blu-ray hardware and software products. The company noted that it will continue to carry an assortment of HD-DVD products for customers who desire to purchase these products.
(Courtesy of The Digital Bits)
PSN ID: Kadaj24
PSN ID: Kadaj24
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Sugaray:
Yeah Ive been having that same problem. Out of maybe 15 Blu-Ray movies on my queue, about 10-12 of them have a "Long Wait"-"Very Long Wait". It pisses me off. I contacted Customer Service about this, and I'm hoping this cease od HDDVD will help.
PSN ID: Kadaj24
EdwinJ85
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@mpmaley:
Perhaps but straight HD DVD rips are not usually more than 8 GB when I see them floating about the interwebs. I wouldn't dl them though, would take forever on my 200KBS line.
EdwinJ85
gozirah
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
As for digital distribution, I'm still not sure movies are analogous to music when it comes to its mainstream potential. The bandwidth infrastructure may catch up to be able to handle the size of a high def movie, or someone in the distribution chain is going to decide to save someone some money and compress the hell out of movies, have software upscale it, and tell us that it's awesome. I think it will be a nice convenient option, but I hope there will always be a big fat disc with maxed out specs for videophiles.
You could argue that compression can do magical things, but I think that having loads of space on a physical medium provides more options for the people writing the media.
But in terms of it's impact to gaming, I still think it's just a bonus. People grumbled that the PS3's blu-ray could have become obsolete, but the truth is that it would always play games not matter the outcome of the format war. Even if DVD's remain supreme or digital downloads become dominant, and stay blu-ray niche, this would still be true.
gozirah
coktoe
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I donno.Nice to be on the winning side?
coktoe
EdwinJ85
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@fulgore66:
The 360 has a detachable portable hard drive?
USB mass storage devices get bigger every year too.
EdwinJ85
Sugaray
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
This really is NO BIG DEAL as Netflix's support of both HD-DVD and BluRay sucks at best.I've had 2 BluRay flicks and 1 HD-DVD on my que for over a month and a half and view that as unacceptable to begin with, which is why i plan on firing Netflix yet again.They haven't supported either format satifactorily and even if they drop one i doubt it means they'll be incresing availabilty of new movies in the other.
Sugaray
sauvage
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Apparently Best Buy will be recommending Blu-Ray over HD-DVD according to an article on HighDefDigest - [www.highdefdigest.com]
sauvage
PSN ID: Kadaj24
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I think this is much bigger news than you'd think. Netflix is one of the main reasons to have an HD player because you can watch all HD movies w/o paying $25-30 for one.
I just can't wait until this is ENTIRELY over and all movies are being made for Blu-Ray like DVD.
PSN ID: Kadaj24
ConstantCupcake
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Man everywhere I go I see hd-dvd drives for the box on sale. Can we please just pick a format and get on with our lives?
ConstantCupcake
NameYourCharacter
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I for one don't understand all this digital distribution malarky. iTMS works because people can download single songs for $1 instead of buying an album for $10+. With video that advantage is gone, because there's no way films could be split like that, and I very much doubt people would want individual episodes of television series.
What reason would I, a rather normal but nevertheless slightly more savvy consumer, have to care about a format that requires an internet connection to be of any use, will most likely implement some major vendor lock-in, one where I have no easy way of lending movies to/borrowing from friends and will be of no use if my particular content vendor goes out of business and then the HDD on my set-top box fails? Oh, it's "the future of home entertainment". Wheee.
NameYourCharacter
WatershipDown
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Ceezsa: Umm HD-DVD had a Blue Laser too.
WatershipDown
topaz420
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Hey, Sony has had a hand in creating great formats -- they jointly developed the Compact Disc (26 years and still kicking).
topaz420
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@interstate78:
come on
its the same for game disc.. maybe 98%
did you see any good quality dvd player die because of abusive movie reading...
and consider this... a movie is about 2h longs average... a game you can spend maybe 6 to 8h straight on it... whats worse.. ?
7th_Ronin
SnakeCL
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Biggest problem with digital distrobution is download limits. ISP's are starting to move towards bandwidth caps since the current internet infrastructure can't handle such a widespread system.
Digital Distro is pretty far off.
SnakeCL
interstate78
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kj719: what I mean by that is that playing a movie uses the lens 100% of the time whereas playing games uses the lens only to load new information into memory. therefore, watching movies on ps3 deteriorates the console much faster than regular game-playing would.
interstate78
TakeoNinja
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@fulgore66:
Maybe you're right but I do think that most 25 year olds and younger have enough understanding of this to be able to utilize an idea such as my example. And, after all, it's people in the years around those that stand for a very large part of the consumption of movies and music ^^
TakeoNinja
heero69
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Well the writing was on the wall for all to see, it seems like everyone as seen it except Toshiba...since they don't give up, I guess retailers are taking things into their hands.
heero69
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@fulgore66:
thats right digital distribution is great... just look at the new mac air... is doesnt come with a drive ( thought you can buy an external one )
still it would great to have a media disc with a massive storage just in case...
looking foward for those holographic discs with up to 3.9tb :O
[en.wikipedia.org]
7th_Ronin
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
*starting*
Adam In Texas
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@ssjmichael: I was started to feel like I imagined the whole thing. Thanks for posting the link as well.
Neo Geo, Laserdisc, CDI, 3D0, Pioneer LaserActive, DIVX. These things....we grew up when they came and went. You don't think I was sitting in Incredible Universe playing the display consoles at least once a week back in the day?
Adam In Texas
fulgore66
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@TakeoNinja: You give average users far too much credit. Don't get me wrong. I already digital distribution, but I am not an average user. Everyone needs to avoid thinking about what would seem like a good idea to them and start thinking about what they think would be a good idea to their parents. That is where technology will go.
fulgore66
The Wreckard
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@mpmaley:
I was just pointing out your word choice. I don't think that word means what you think it means.
The Wreckard
Tepoz
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
DIVX was panned by pretty much everyone. A huge negative was its potential environmental impact. People rent alot. Imagine the huge mound of DIVX disc waste.
Tepoz
fulgore66
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@rmeehan17: Actually, let me try this again. When you can fit 500+ GB on a solid state portable device (smaller than a DVD) and it becomes VERY standardized to the point where my mom knows what it is and how to use it, digital distribution will be able to take off.
fulgore66
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
its all good now
thx for this new knowledge aqcuired
:P
7th_Ronin
TakeoNinja
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@fulgore66:
They'll find a work-around to those issues, for example, you download your movies to an internet storage place, let us name it "HQ", and from your HQ account you have access to your movies at any time, though, you can only download the movie say 2 times but instead you can stream the movie how many times you want to any computer you want. For saftey they have a limit that gives you a warning and ultimately bans you if two computers access your account simultainously so you don't share your account with the world.
This way you still have your movies if a disc crashes, and you can take them with you anytime you want! Simple solution really. The connection speed argument is kinda moot by the way as you don't download movies on a bad connection.
TakeoNinja
fulgore66
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@rmeehan17: Did you even read what I posted? Size is not a problem. Lack of usability is. You need to keep the average consumer in mind when thinking about these things. The things that are awesome to people like you and me are trash when viewed through the eyes of normal people.
fulgore66
ssjmichael
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Adam In Texas:
haha we both linked Wiki and everything :D
ssjmichael
Mr_Fuzzypaws
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Adam In Texas: now please tell me someone knows what I'm talking about
I remember, and I remember thinking how stupid it was.
Most of what I heard was from environmentalists complaining about all the discs that would end up in landfills.
Mr_Fuzzypaws
ssjmichael
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@7th_Ronin:
He's thinkng of DIVX which is different from DivX. Read the Wiki: [en.wikipedia.org]
ssjmichael
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Mr_Fuzzypaws: Thank you. For fuck sake, I lived through the whole thing. I may have written it down wrong as it is DIVX not DivX but it was around for a whole year and a half back in 1998 or so.
Here is the wikipedia link for DIVX not DivX. 1998. click
Adam In Texas
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I think you are mistakin cdi with divx...
as I said divx is a codec , divx player were reading cdrom containing a divx file/s
cdi is the format that philips had intruced in early 90s... but miserably failed
7th_Ronin
Mr_Fuzzypaws
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@7th_Ronin: btw divx is a codec, not a support...
It used to be a disc format. You'd buy a disc for a few bucks and you'd have 24-48 hours to watch the movie. If you wanted to watch it again you had to pay another buck or two. Pretty much what the Apple TV is, but actual discs, not a download.
Mr_Fuzzypaws
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
...and while I know it wasn't as much of a situation as Blu-Ray HD-DVD is now please tell me someone knows what I'm talking about with the DVD / DIVX (Digital Video Express) thing... I swear it was a huge ordeal back in the day and I remember everyone stressing about it becoming standard on dvdtalk.com and other dvd forums when it first came out.
Adam In Texas
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@7th_Ronin: Well maybe not so much a battle as a bloodbath. Hey, at least I purchased DVD then and never actually owned a DIVX system.
Adam In Texas
balla4real
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Blade Runner looks better on blu ray than hd-dvd
balla4real
rmeehan17
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@fulgore66:
the only thing holding it back is hard drive size. Blu-Ray has five years. tops.
rmeehan17
Garo
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Adam In Texas:
Battle? LOL, where did you buy those DivX movies?
Garo
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
btw divx is a codec, not a support...
enought with this, I want game reports and rumors already !
7th_Ronin
balla4real
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I'm glad I bought a PS3 even if it doesn't have mgs4 or killzone2 yet. Blu-ray is so much better. and compaines are finally relizing the future is blu
balla4real
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Adam In Texas:
there was a divx/dvd battle ?
must have been froozed in time for a while I guess
;P
7th_Ronin
mpmaley
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@The Wreckard:
Read the link, Best Buy will be promoting Blu-ray as format of choice over HD-DVD.
mpmaley
mpmaley
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@EdwinJ85:
Learn about quality. That is crap PQ and AQ compared to what you get on the Blu-ray or HD-DVD versions.
mpmaley
jiffy
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Ok, so now how about some studio news...
Please!?
Paramount, Uni, are you guys even paying attention?
jiffy
TakeoNinja
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Ceezsa:
Have you not noticed the sever quality drop when you compress a dvd with divx, xvid and similar codecs? If not then you haven't compared them to each other... Anyhow, I'm still willing to agree with you as I'm not a quality whore myself but, if I were to get meself a sweet ass full-HD projector and watch my HD movies on a 200" screen I think I would've been a bit pissed about the quality drop just because some cheap dude thought it to be more convenient to compress it all ^^
TakeoNinja
jun581
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kyle81: i didn't know they carried online HD-DVD. i just vaguely remember news a while back about Blockbuster carrying only blu-ray. well maybe paramount can finally either pay back the money, or find a way to get out the contract so the format war can be completely done.
jun581
fulgore66
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I still think online distribution will fail. 2 major problems:
1. You don't own anything physical. It's on a drive and when that drive fails, everything is gone. And Joe Average is WAY too stupid to back things up. As soon as Joe Average has a single drive failure, he'll say "what the fuck do you mean it's gone. Fuck that."
2. You can't take your movies, games, etc to a friends house. Unless you want to lug around your PS3/Tivo.
Physical media will always serve a purpose. As nice as online dist will be for some uses, it will not dominate the market in the near future.
fulgore66
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@7th_Ronin: It's really not that sad. The movies I own are still good. It's not like the Divx/DVD battle from the late '90s.
Adam In Texas
rmeehan17
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Whatever. i'm already getting most of my rentals from downloads anyway.
rmeehan17
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Kyle81: You can still buy working betamax players on Ebay if you look hard enough. I'm sure people will be able to find something to play their HD-DVDs if they feel the need 10 years from now. Of course, I don't even own a VCR for my tapes so I doubt I'll really want a player down the road once a new format becomes the biggest and the best like DVD is now.
The library here received a bunch of sweet Laserdisc movies not long ago and I took them just as display pieces. They are all in perfect condition in these nice plastic case covers and the artwork makes a nice display piece in the entertainment room (like vinyl record cases) It's like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Die Hard, Aliens and they look sweet. Too bad my HD-DVD movies have pretty much shite cases. Nothing worth showing off for the sake of it.
Adam In Texas
Gutzman
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Ceezsa: They both use blue lasers.
Gutzman
Tepoz
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Ah, but how long will the DVD vs Blu-Ray war rage?
Tepoz
KosherInfidel
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Et Tu, Netflix?
KosherInfidel
Bookburner
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Can someone wake me up when either of these formats goes to "war" with DVD? Who fights a war over such a small portion of the market? really.
As for Netflix. . . They've already jumped on the digital distribution wagon and seem to be pushing that as well. So honestly all this format business just seems like polishing the brass on the titanic. We're gonna move to digital distribution in the near future. Why care about obsolete formats like discs?
Bookburner
manjikengo
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I wonder how much dough the blu-ray committee spent for all this?
@Kyle81: shame those aren't actually utilizing 1080p.
manjikengo
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Adam In Texas:
sad
7th_Ronin
7th_Ronin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@panfriedcharlie:
can you burn your live downloaded movies on a hd support ?
ohhh
7th_Ronin
Kyle81
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@dadeisvenm: BD video games are not counted in video sales. Nielson video sales data only covers actual films and tv released on either format.
Kyle81
Adam In Texas
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@mossberg: Don't feel bad. I'll just get a blue-ray player when I can no longer find HD-DVD movies. Hopefully this will lead to some decent sales on hd-dvd movies. I got the HD-DVD add-on for the 360 as a birthday present a year or two ago. I can't remember now.
Adam In Texas
Kyle81
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@jun581: Blockbuster online carries HDDVD, but in stores they are heavy on the blu ray only thing now. Most blockbusters got in big blu ray displays now that show off blu ray films all day as well as them selling PS3's in store in special blockbuster bundle packs.
Kyle81
EdwinJ85
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
HD DVD is really dying. Damn.
Why cant we just stick 720p movies on good old DL-DVD's? 8 gig is more than enough - 300 on XBLM is only 6-7 gig.
EdwinJ85
dadeisvenm
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@balls187:the fact that BDs are the defacto format for the PS3 means that regardless of the formats popularity, all the games would BE BDs and would skew the BD numbers numbers. Blu-Ray winning was a matter of time. What made HD-DVD a loss was Microsoft's failure to back it 100% and Microsoft backstabbing the DVD Forum in the back by backing its own download service.
Frankly I hope the service fails so Microsoft can learn to be a fair business partner.
dadeisvenm
Kyle81
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@interstate78: Except that you need the 360 still to watch the HDDVD's. Once either one goes, your screwed and there ain't going to be anymore hddvd players around to play your new coasters.
Kyle81
GamingNinja
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Nice :)
GamingNinja
jun581
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@zombieistired: i thought blockbuster was already carry blu-ray exclusively.
@balls187: there are games
jun581
Ceezsa
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
One thing that sux is why didnt someone just come out with a new Codec instead of these new disc and expensive players. I look at how DivX could compress DVD quality video onto a 700 mb CD. With a codec just as good or better than Divx the 8.5 gb on dual layer DVDs should have been sufficient for high def.
Ceezsa
Kj719
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@interstate78: Umm, what's wrong with *using* your PS3?!?!
Kj719
panfriedcharlie
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I'm more sorry for all y'all suckas who bought either. It's clear that digital distribution is coming and it will stay. I can watch a high-def movie on Xbox Live while I download it. Why would I want a disc?
And sorry to all of you who just must have Spiderman 3's super mega awesome collector's set edition part two, but digital distribution is far far far better for the planet earth -- and you'll thank me later, your wallets too! Though I bet that movie and game marketers will still find someway to get you to re-download the same movie over and over again.
panfriedcharlie
The Wreckard
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@mpmaley:
Literally?
The Wreckard
interstate78
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Like I always say, I got 6 free movies with it and it's a superior reg. def DVD Upscaler that doesn't use my 360's drive so in the end I'm really glad I purchased it. Whenever I watch Blu-Rays I keep thinking it's *using* my PS3.
Plus, HD-DVDs were cooler and *I* got to experience that :)
interstate78
Kyle81
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
*points and laughs at Paramount*
Kyle81
blackadvent
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I'll start to care when they drop regular DVD. THEN I'll consider buying Blu-Ray.
blackadvent
xpnet
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
and I wanted to get Heros in HD from Netflix!!
xpnet
itsburnsie
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
/pours out his '40 in remembrance of his homie, HD-DVD
itsburnsie
mpmaley
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
As does Best Buy:
[www.streetinsider.com]
GG HD-DVD and Toshiba. WB was the nail @ the coffin and today is literally the hammer driving it in.
mpmaley
dadeisvenm
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
sad sad day... all the poor people who invested in HD-DVD are getting hosed. To add insult to injury, the probably have to sell the HD-DVD library to Gamestop for a lose and repurchase in Blu-Ray format.
dadeisvenm
balls187
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Bluray winning was arbitrary.
I bought a ps3 and got lucky that bluray won, but my decision wasn't made because I gave a damn about the format. I wanted a ps3 for games (i know laugh at my foolishness)
I don't know why consumers reward companies that pull shit like this.
Everyone outta consider pirating every bluray movie I could, just to spite hollywood and sony for doing this retarded shit.
And just to make it burn even more, I'm gonna use an HD-DVDR drive to do it.
balls187
sascha23
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Best Buy just sent out a press release that beginning March 1st, they will endorse Blu-ray as the single HD format for the consumer.
I have to admit, this is all happening far quicker than I expected. By May 1st, people won't even remember HD-DVD.
Well it looks like Sony actually knew what it was doing by making the PS3 a Blu-ray compatible device.
Either that or they got totally lucky and are loving it. ;)
sascha23
zombieistired
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Good job Netflix
:D
for the next nail in the coffin, Blockbuster must do the same thing.
zombieistired
Digitalguardian 4: Mass Effect, Alcohol, and a Giant Robot
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Microsoft is really pushing digital downloads aren't they.
Digitalguardian 4: Mass Effect, Alcohol, and a Giant Robot
Spartan1308
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I'm really glad I didn't give in to urges to buy HD-DVD before. The problem is that Paramount and Universal still are exclusive w/the format. I have a feeling that if Universal goes Blu-ray, Paramount would be allowed to follow.
Spartan1308
daizyujin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@Ceezsa: HD-DVD uses a blue laser as well just like blu-ray discs.
daizyujin
cybereality
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Maybe it really is over of HD-DVD... I was holding out for a sort of come back, but at this point I think the its more likely Duke Nukem Forever will actually ship this year !!!
cybereality
The Konamunist
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@DefDealer:
Maybe, but first we have to wait for Paramount to reverse sell-out... Since they seem to prefer to side with the format that sells less overall I think they may not return to Blu-ray until it is being phased out by whatever the next big thing is :P
The Konamunist
Mycool
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Good news! So long HD-DVD...good riddance.
Mycool
daizyujin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
This is really sad for all the people that bought HD-DVD players though. It isn't like this originally looked so cut and dry.
daizyujin
Ceezsa
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Kinda make sense though. HD-DVD had a size of 30 gigs and they have some Blue Rays on the horizon that can store 100 gigs on that 5 cent piece of plastic. Not a Sony fan but Blue Lasers are cool.
Ceezsa
comedy
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
it's about time, there's no point in having 2 dominant formats.
i may have a vested interest in bluray but still people are just going to be wasting a lot of money unless one side comes out on top. for good.
comedy
Deathimself
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
hell yeah lol, i want a high-def player stuffed in an original NES casing... that would be badass.
Deathimself
daizyujin
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I feel bad for all the people who bought HD-DVD players as frankly, for a while this looked like it could go either way. Both formats had their advantages. I am glad one is being chosen but even still, the costs are way to high for the average joe. I don't see blu-ray overtaking DVD anytime soon. It may have beaten HD-DVD but that still don't mean it won't end up like laserdisc, a format that was leaps and bounds ahead of everything else but still never overtook the VHS market. I do have to say though that if one thing about blu-ray winning does upset me it is that I was quite pleased to see HD-DVD adopt a region free system. At least with blu-ray Japan and Hong Kong are in the same region as me in the US but it still totally bites for our poor friends in Europe who have to deal with long delays and inferior releases with material deleted from the Region A discs.
daizyujin
cooler_dood
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
and "Best Buy to Recommend Blu-ray as the Customer's Digital Format Choice", too.
[www.businesswire.com]
cooler_dood
smitty1123
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Now maybe they'll actaully buy a decent amount of BD discs. Seriously, the top 10 movies in my queue are all BD and they all have either "long wait/very long wait". Aggravating... but still way better than having to deal with a human at a store.
smitty1123
Streeks1984
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Good maybe this will finally kill hd-dvd.
Streeks1984
Sparx88
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
na na na-na, na na na-na, hey hey hey, go-od bye...
Sparx88
Dakobah
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
ahhh the NES idea is so awesome! i seen some computers stuffed in that thing and some other creations, to bad mine worked or i would mod it out.
Dakobah
y2kenjination
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
LoL at your last paragraph Mike. Win :D
y2kenjination
B33
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Hate to be blunt, but this is just one more nail in the coffin. Though it is ironic that with Sony's past track record, Blu-Ray has succeeded where other formats endorsed by Sony at first have failed.
B33
silkylove
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@gwangi:
No point in getting a dual player. Everything that's on HD-DVD will be on Bluray in a year. Plus HD-DVD disks scratch easier.
silkylove
Jouten
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I have both, I was personally hoping HD DVD would win and Blu Ray on my PS3 would become a proprietory format like it's UMD discs. I guess not, ah well =(
Jouten
Teiris2355
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
I wish i had netflix :/
Teiris2355
DefDealer
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Good...now I can finally get Transformers on blu-ray
DefDealer
gwangi
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
As long as I can get a decently priced dual player, I'll be fine.
gwangi
HarrisonHopkins
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
Someone's probably in the process of gutting an NES and stuffing it in the thing right now.
Thanks for ruining the surprise.
HarrisonHopkins
valuepack
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
This proves the two can't be "just friends."
valuepack
Maldron
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
@mossberg: It's part of the nature of gambling, I fear. Some win, some lose.
The internet's still easier.
Maldron
Jomo7
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
HD-Fail.
Jomo7
Fluffy22
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
cant HD-DVD just give up? it would be better for everyone :/
Fluffy22
mossberg
Posted 5:03 PM 16/2/08
i feel bad for all those early HD adopters right now..
mossberg