@manjikengo:
You got something against Prinnies, d00d?

The BPM Scrolls IV - Knights of the Nine

@TT: SEGA? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Shaoko

This chart seems a little retarded to me in terms of useful comparison. Lots of people will have multiples of those consoles. The decision has really been Wii + PS3 or Wii + 360 and separate from that is DS/PSP and separate to that is whether they already own a PS2.

ScaryHobo

don't worry people!

The DS is just a fad!

The wii is just a gimmick!

Sony will be back on the throne again! soon! near! there!

:3

I speak the truth! can't doubt me! uh-uh!

Onizuka-GTO

Wow - its Wii and handhelds - then everything else isn't even close. Heck combine everything else and they still don't crack #3

Limafoxtrot

Dakron, nobody likes a fanboy. Nobody.

And DaiMacculate's right, of course.

eastx

I agree with what others have said, I don't think there is a need for DS is better than PSP or vice versa comments here, both can and should exist in a fair market. Nintendo has dominated the space for decades and solid competition can only ensure a better lineup of hardware and software in the next iteration of portables, so stop whining!

:P

DaiMacculate

@Leanid: What's the use of rearranging my words when you took them out of context? It was in relation to a newcomer surviving in the handheld market against a company who has held sway over it for over a decade.

I said nothing of the Wii. But, I'll let you feel pretty clever for not putting much effort into your post.

pylon_trooper

@baked ham: This is just one week's figures: they aren't actually that far apart. LTD sales in Japan are:

Wii:PS3 2.8:1

PS3:360 3.4:1

quen

It's funny, the 360 sold the same amount of units as the year the original Xbox was released in North America.(2001)

ForwardInReverse

Holy fuckshit the PSP outsold the DS.

DankPanties

@pylon_trooper: I think the Wii is a wonderful little machine, and the fact that it has stood up against a market dominated by Sony is a testament to its tenacity, hardware and game library. Good on it.

Leanid

What the fuck is it with so many people using prinnies as their fucking avatars?

Witzbold, God damn you and your trend setting.

manjikengo

@zoesch: Let it go. Man, just let it go.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@jago.kot: Aren't you annoying?

I haven't seen anyone here say anything negative about the DS except the fact that it might be approaching market saturation (Which isn't negative at all) yet you start this stupid discussion about the PSP never catching up to the DS.

WHO CARES?

I think you're using technology to fill a void in your life, better rethink that stance.

zoesch

@Old-school Sonic fanboy: Omg hax.

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

@Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.: Whatever. My Game Gear pwns all you noobs.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

Commence the Space Odyssey!

justhesh

@Deluxe: Way to go right to the namecalling, new guy. I mean, I know that's called for, right?

@Old-school Sonic fanboy: No! My system of choice is clearly .35% more extremely pimp then your system of choice!!1

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

Lord. Can't we just agree that both the DS and PSP are extremely pimp systems?

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@Drakron: Oops, you're a moron!

Deluxe

@Usama: Never gonna happen. :-p

jago.kot

Eh. I see no need for "PSP never outselling DS" comments. They can both coexist. Though my PSP will no doubt get more attention this month. People should own both!

Saint Anima: Kotaku's Poetic Massacre

@zztopp: I'm a big Nintendo fan, and I love my DS... but never say never.

Usama

PSP is never going to reach DS levels or exceed them because in every other country outside Japan its still heavily being outsold.

zztopp

@Frank:

It probably won't outsell the Wii anytime soon, what with Brawl still selling a lot and Mario Kart coming.

NeoAkira

@Frank: You know this is Japan, right?

Power_Wrist

@Drakron: Calm yourself, he didn't say the DS was a hideous and unwanted system. You don't need to pull sales numbers. Not only is that lame it's unnecessary. Everyone already knows Nintendo has sold more DS's then there are people in the earth.

Aflack: Likes slushies

@GUNDAM-RX-78-2: @dip:

Well, I'm all teched up right now. I have a Zune. Cost me big. no more room for portable technology, no sir.

Power_Wrist

So the PSP outsells the DS but not the Wii this week. It previously outsold the Wii but not the DS.

Anyone taking bets on when it will outsell both of them?

Frank

@Power_Wrist: The Slim doesnt get finger-printy.
There are plenty of good games for it out now and coming soon.
EVERYONE uses the PSP for portable porn.
Now then, whats really stopping you?

GUNDAM-RX-78-2

@Power_Wrist: "But that's beside the point, I would probably just use it for portable porn."
Your name is quite appropriate methinks.

dip

I want one of those shamrock shake PSPs.. and a 1-seg tuner to go with it. It would compliment my navy DS Lite and silver Gameboy Micro very well!

Jonathan

@baked ham: and fingerprints. I would buy a PSP, If they would - dear god - make it a little unsexier by releasing a version that has opaque textured plastic.

Oh, and if there were any good games out for it. But that's beside the point, I would probably just use it for portable porn.

Power_Wrist

Everything is down and has been for the last couple of weeks, but PS3 and 360 are doing pretty bad right now. Hope it picks up soon.

atomos

@Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": No wonder guys are always kicking over my boxes in Metal Gear Solid titles, those bastards are trying to evict me!

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

@Jericho114: I said what I said b/c there ARE people who are going to mis-read that chart and think that somehow the PSP is wooping the ass of the DS in overall sales. If you think that's not gonna happen then you must be living under a rock...welcome to the internet.

jago.kot

Portables FTW.
Except Wii, which is a fucking awesome console.

anubis2788

@okenny :): The Japanese aren't homeless, it's just that a house the size of a cardboard box costs $1M. (Much like SF bay area.)

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

@The BPM Scrolls IV - Knights of the Nine: Sourced like a term paper. Well done. Haha. Fad or no fad, the Wii is a success and that's all that's important.

baked ham

@Dir_en_grey: omg! i think i just saw an giant squid

AceClover Justice

@jago.kot: We promise to stop having an orgasm over the psp numbers, if you promise to stop being such a little bitch. Why are you defending the DS, no ones said anything bad about it?

Jericho114

@jago.kot: Oh, don't be such a dick. We all know that the DS will always be ahead of the PSP. We don't need people to remind us.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

Totally Disagree with you Kaemon, I barely ever play my Ds while my Psp is in constant use every day! Well done Psp, You deserve it!

Soyerz

A fad is defined as something that becomes very popular with a small group of people for a short period of time. It is unpredictable, short lived and without social, economic and political significance

Hmm.... Popular with a small group of people... Nope. A LARGE group of people.
A short period of time... depends on what you define as "short", I guess.
Unpredicatable... Who thought it'd be this huge of a success?
short-lived... see above.
Without social, economic, and political significance.... No (it's a very social machine), no (Nintendo prints money), and maybe? (some folks have been trying to force the ESRB to change regulation on Wii games depending on the input)

Going by that definition, I'd say the Wii is, most likely, NOT a fad.

---

And mind you, folks, that this is just WEEKLY sales. It doesn't give you a good image of the big picture (the big picture being that total sales of DS alone eclipses everything else). So even if this could be considered a victory for PSP over DS (by the way, I love both), it's a VERY MINOR victory at that.

The BPM Scrolls IV - Knights of the Nine

even though it's a 3k lead over the DS, it somehow debunks the popular statement that the PSP will NEVER outpace the DS~

To be fair to the PSP, the titles are getting better (patapon, ff7, gow, etc.) and the PSP is gearing to be a really versatile product (gps, peripherals, slim, etc.)

iRloading

@Old-school Sonic fanboy: Yea I'm TOTALLY a fanboy b/c I made that comment right?

/rolls eyes

Whatever dude...think whatever ignorant stuff you want to think.

jago.kot

Clearly this is because most of the Japanese are homeless and the Wii is the only console small enough to carry with you when your living a life without shelter. That's all I've got... any one else care to add??? -_-

okenny :)

@Dir_en_grey: Wootness. Disgaea is a fantastic game, but gets put down a lot due to it's graphics.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@Kaemon: *sigh*

Yep. The better company. *rolls eyes*

I think the PSP is a wonderful little machine, and the fact that it has stood up against a market dominated by Nintendo is a testament to its tenacity, hardware and game library. Good on it.

pylon_trooper

@manjikengo:
魔界戦記ディスガイア3 = Disgaea 3 (Limited edition included)

Dir_en_grey

@Dir_en_grey: Wasn't there already an Idolmaster game for X360? Seems like if Idolmaster was going to make you get a 360, you would have already got one.

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

@jago.kot: Gosh. Another fanboy angry that the PSP is selling better then the DS just for the moment?

Old-school Sonic fanboy

Um for all you PSP fanboys that are have an orgasm over the PSP numbers being higher then the DS...that is ONLY for a week of sales.

Overall the DS is beating the snot out of the PSP and will continue to do so...same goes for the rest of the world as well. The PSP is always going to be a very far distant 2nd place behind the DS.

jago.kot

Go PSP, Go PSP Go!

Huxle

デビル メイ クライ 4（同梱版含む）Seems to be selling VERY well.

wtf is this game ?魔界戦記ディスガイア3（限定版含む）

Babel Fish phails.

Ps3 lost planet and burnout paradise are selling well.

Bioshock is #1 selling 360 title this week.

manjikengo

@Dir_en_grey: Yes, a game like that'll do it.

What the Xbox needs to get a jump is an exclusive SquareEnix title.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@baked ham: very good point sir

mossberg

@Drakron: In reality, numbers 'winning' doesn't mean much of anything if there's not software to back it up. The DS has software at least, so I can't gripe there. But developers' stupidity in managing Wii titles might ultimately hurt those numbers, whereas people left and right seem to be willing to throw money at a multiplat PS3/360/PC release nowadays. So regardless of what the numbers ultimately show, there's got to be something to do when you leave the computer and return to the console, and unless Nintendo starts producing about another million a month, the numbers aren't going to start beating developers over the head hard enough to get them to do anything for it.

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

@MoogPaul: As far as I know, they sell fairly well, though not as well as in the west. The disparity isn't that bad, particularly when compared to something such as the average Japan vs. North America sales of the Metroid series.

Lezard

@Drakron: by your logic who ever sells the most consoles "wins" but to the company's its who ever makes the most "profit" wins.

Crazyeyez15

@Old-school Sonic fanboy:
I think 360 is considered a "hardcore" system in Japan because of their taste in games are so different then the US market. I'm pretty convinced everybody in Japan that bought a 360 was because of Idol Master. =)

No worries, 360's sales will sure go up next week with the sequal "Idol Master Live For You", which was released yesterday in Japan.

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Dir_en_grey

@Drakron: Look, Titanic is the highest grossing film of all time, but just because no other movie has ever met the same amount of success does not mean that every other movie has been a failure. Who gives a flying fuck whether the PSP outsells the DS. It's still selling phenomenally well and it's likely making Sony lots of money, not to mention the fact that it's a great system with great features and great games.

baked ham

@frank0127: Or the day they launch the 720, or whatever they're going to call it.

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

@MoogPaul: they sell pretty well [vgchartz.com]

mossberg

@MoogPaul: are you serious? lol.

logicaldefense

@Drakron: Arg. Stop talking like a lame fanboy. :] Let it go man, seriously.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

I thought MGS series wasn't that big of a deal in Japan. or am I wrong?

MoogPaul

@mossberg: and i'd have to agree with you there. hell, Metal Slug was the only side-scroller shooter i could think of.

frank0127

@mossberg:
Facts are facts.

The NDS "won", the Wii is going on its way to "win" and yet the Wii is snubbed at if it does not really matters as the PS3/Xbox 360 "war" seem the only thing that matters despite the Wii having consistent high sales despite supply shortages.

The PSP cannot "win" because the gap to reach a 1:1 is too wide, when people say the PSP is recovering its simply its too little and too late ... it would have to outsell the NDS by at least 3:1 and would take years before hardware sales would be equal.

Drakron

@frank0127: i'm not saying they suck, i'm just saying the style of game seems like it's on it's way out the door

mossberg

@baked ham: Price difference, probably. That and the fact the home console market is decidedly mild at best in Japan, what with all those crazy people buying up every handheld they can find. The Wii seems to be merely a haven for casual home gaming that families are in love with, with no really compelling software hitting there outside of some of Nintendo's offerings, PS3's price I think is still holding it back a bit, not to mention, again, a lot of developers in Japan putting a lot of effort into capitalizing on the handheld's numbers. Both the popular consoles also suffer from the unknown of who's buying it in Japan. People buying it for Blu-Ray? People buying it just for Sports/Fit? Home consoles seem like a huge unknown over there.

@sascha23: Ehhh, I dunno about way up. I'm sure there'll be a spike, no doubt. I just don't think that Japan is the haven for games that aren't decidedly aimed at them, and I think Metal Gear has always been a much more 'western' audiences sorta title. It'll definitely spur sales, but if anything will move sales in Japan, I think it'd be a certain SquareEnix title.

As for the PSP, it's still a bit behind the DS in terms of total numbers, but I think the both of them are going to stay pretty neck and neck from here on out, with only key software spurring sales. Neither have really shown any drop off, and both have decent enough libraries over there that some people might just own both and be all the more happy with them.

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

@CenatorC: the day microsoft stops selling the 360 in japan is the day Miyamoto retires.

in other words, NEVER.

frank0127

@Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": Ahh.. That explains it. I drew mine in paint.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB:

You always have your wonderful photoshop renditions to fall back on! oh wait...

:P

LittleBigPlaneteer

@mossberg: arcade fans beg to differ on that one. Metal Slug is still awesome, is it not?

frank0127

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: Hooray for the Google Chart API.

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

@ndsOtaku:

When is it coming out? 2009?

LittleBigPlaneteer

@Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": Help. I'm being usurped in every way by Torgen.

First, he perfects my name shctick. Now he's stealing my graphs.

I'm going to be thrown to the side like a worthless puppy.
...And his analogies are better too.

Wahhh!

Seriously. Nice job. Much better than mine.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

@Old-school Sonic fanboy: lol ya think?

Low numbers all around...

TheHun

My god Microsoft should just quit Japan, its just horrible seeing those numbers.

CenatorC

@mossberg & @MoeB: I think you guys need to read his statement again. The only bias in his words is the one others read into it. Like him, many of us are wondering the same thing, since it's not normal for PSP to overtake DS in sales on any given week.

phinehas

@2NinjasTapedTogether: gotta agree with you here. domination is only fun for so long. now we've got some good competition for Nintendo. (finally)

and Drakron makes a valid point, the DS pushing 50K in a week OVER THREE YEARS after it's release is worthy of applause.

it's still unusual though. i've noticed DS sales going from hundreds of thousands to quintuple digits in little time.

i just think everyone's gotten one already, that's what it is. :p

frank0127

@2NinjasTapedTogether: This is only a month's sales, though. In terms of the handhelds' lifespans, the DS is still cleaning the PSP's clock and will probably always have a substantial lead in total userbase. Still, it is good to see that the PSP has finally become competitive in terms of month-to-month sales.

Lezard

@Dir_en_grey: You know how the Japanese love them some Monster Hunter, love it enough to buy some nasty ass drink.

Also, being a huge Dir en grey fan, I'm lovin' your name, since it is in fact, Dir en grey. Wootness.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

when Dragon Quest IX comes out, the DS will outsell the PSP again.

ndsOtaku

Meh, PSP selling higher then DS?

Who really cares. DS has already proved itself, and the PSP CAN'T outsell it even if the DS stopped being sold. (Well it could, but it would be a long time, and newer stuff would be out.)
PSP didn't wipe DS out, didn't beat nintendo in the handheld market. Nintendo will continue to make handhelds, and sony now knows its possable to do so. Maybe now microsoft can take a stab at it.

I Really don't care either way. I have PSP and A DS. I haven't cared since I got a PSP.

Though I am quite glad DS has already won. (Face it people) Because honestly, Nintendo is the better company.

Kaemon

@frank0127: side scrolling beatem-ups were a fad

mossberg

The PSP is a phenomenal system. It's perfect in all ways but one: dust. Wow, that screen starts to look all dusty and dirty within 1 minute of playing, I have to keep a lense cleaning cloth with me at all time and I find myself wiping off the screen every few minutes haha.

baked ham

@Hitokiri151: People are getting PSP's to play Monster Hunter Portable 2nd so they can get ready to transfer their save files to the Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G that's releasing next month. #1 selling PSP game in Japan and it's selling even more PSP's now the sequal is coming out.
MHP2nd:

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Dir_en_grey

If you prefer a 2D bar graph, here you go:

Torgen thinks AAA means “Costs $60”

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: fads can also last only a few years. furby, beanie babies, tickle me elmo, boy bands, etc.

but those are toys. and bad/infectious pop music.

video games are not fads, for the reason that they've been around too damn long to fall in the "fad" classification(which i think you're right about, is about 5 years or so).

frank0127

@Drakron: You sound like some kind of whiney fanboy who is upset because their system isn't on top.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

PSP beats out DS? Good news for PSP. Good news for Nintendo as competition is always a good thing

2NinjasTapedTogether

@Hitokiri151:

ff7, patapon

Gambare

@Drakron: sony rape your sister or something?

mossberg

@frank0127: probably, the others ones sold really well if i'm not mistaken

mossberg

@sascha23: idk, japan seems too "casual" oriented for MGS4 to affect sales of the PS3 over there.

is it just me that sees MGS4 not doing the best in Japan?

frank0127

@Drakron: People arguing for or against the concept of a "fad" are insane.

A fad can last a long time. For god's sake. Look at some of the fads of the 80's. They lasted for 5+ years. The Bee-Gee's were the top musical group in the WORLD for 3 years. There's no way to tell a fad until after it's over.

So it's pointless to argue over whether it is or not. Let's just see what time says (I'm personally rooting for not a fad, simply because I want to justify my purchase.)

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

Tales of Vesperia or not, I don't think there is any way the Xbox can come out on top in Japan.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@Drakron: Why are you sounding so bitter?

MoeB

Wow. Look at the PsP. As much as I love mine, I never thought it would do that well. I'm amazed. Gratz, PsP.

Ever since I realized I could get extra credit in school for "practical application", I've been making bar graphs for everything.

[i82.photobucket.com]

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

@sascha23:

Oh? do you want me to pull the NDS sales vs PSP numbers?

The fact the NDS can STILL sell 50.000 units IN A WEEK at this stage is nothing short of impressive, the PSP is still ridding on being a cheap portable media center that can also play games, especially "emulated" games.

Also as a news flash, the PS3 is NOT outselling the Wii in Europe, the Wii is beating the PS3 in sales at such a global scale its not even funny anymore ... I guess saying the Wii was just a "fad" is providing to be ... false.

Drakron

I agree with Mr. Mcwhertor on everything. Wish I could add more. I know MGS4 will fly off of the shelves when it comes out

SolidOni_ds

@sascha23: We know for a fact the japanese youth loves cell phones. The psp can double as a cellphone! Connection?

Iunno I'm just joshin...

manjikengo

@Hitokiri151: I don't know what to tell you. PSP has become the sexy thing out in Japan and everyone's gotta get one. It looks to stay at the top for many years to come.

I do think PS3 numbers will go way up as we near MGS4 in Japan, but they are VERY fickle. In the states and most of Europe the PS3 sales have been consistently gaining.

sascha23

@ ninjapirate2000: oh, smite me for my stupidity o_o srry i didnt really pay attention to the release dates in jp

giant_chibi

@baked ham:The 360 has nothing but violent american games on it.

OH WAIT! the ps3 has nothing but violent american games too....so hrm.....

manjikengo

@ninjapirate2000: Yes, its Musou, but I think PSP has its own momentum.

TT

Poor Xbox. The Japanese don't want a system made by a bunch of pig-headed Americans. :]

The PSP selling better then the DS? Crazy.

Old-school Sonic fanboy

@giant_chibi: ff7 crisis core came out in September2007.

TT

Hmm, guess we need more heavy hitters out there for each system. Still decent sales though. 360 could use that Tales of Vesperia right about now.

Saint Anima: Kotaku's Poetic Massacre

@giant_chibi:

No its the musou(sp?) game crisis core came out last year in japan.

ninjapirate2000

The japanese console "war" is so fucked. Seriously. 5-to-1 for the Wii vs. PS3 battle? Then there's 7-to-1 on the PS3 vs. 360 front. By my calculation, that puts it at about 35-to-1 Wii vs. 360? Just nuts. Why are they all so far apart?

baked ham

Honestly, I'm still finding it astonishing MS is selling more than 500 a week in Japan.

manjikengo

well, Segas two releases will give ps3 a couple spikes before MGS4. But nothing that will hold.

TT

DS might just be reaching saturation point for now. The numbers seem low all around though.

GregoriusH

@ Hitokiri151: i think it was ff7 crisis core

giant_chibi

its been like this for the last couple of weeks, hasnt it?

Ahsayuni

Wait, what came out on PSP to push it up over the DS?

Hitokiri151