@YodaTuna: Read the post? The game was underway on "next-gen consoles" before the Wii became the latest big thing.

Luke Plunkett

Great, now the high costs of developing on the PS3/360 are starting to hurt the Wii. They should have devoted the initial money to the Wii version, and ported to the others.

tickmenanny

@YodaTuna: U have a good point, the #1 system getting crap:{ i like my wii and hope this changes, because now olny nintendo games are selling. COME ON 3rd Parties make a good game ill buy it promise X{

DarkLuigi

@ablemancain: It might help if the graphics didn't look like balloon art.

This is the Wii though,~90% of its games fit that description.

Toprem

Good. Honestly, just shoveling crap out there hoping for a quick buck doesn't do anyone any good.

smitty1123

Hey somebody tell fraxis to make the PS3 version work with remote play. It's not to intense so the lag would be ok.

Rurik

Seems like a good idea, ignoring the system with the highest penetration. Even when Nintendo is #1, they're still treated like crap. 3rd parties claim that their games don't sell on Nintendo systems. Maybe if they actually put some effort and marketing into these games they would. Idiots.

YodaTuna

I wonder how much of it also was due to the amount of space on the system memory the game would have taken. I remember SimCity 2000 taking up something like 6 blocks on my memory card for Playstation for one city. The game saves on this could have had the potential to take up more space than a person would be willing to use on one game.

ceilingFANBOY: got shrinkage

@ablemancain: You know the saying, "damned if you do, damned if you dont." In terms of the graphical presentation that is.

Witzbold

I'm actually glad they canned it, if that was their attitude towards it. As little more than a cash-in, something tells me they would've probably nixed any actual online multiplayer, and tossed out a poorly-thought out interface if they'd of forced it out, since they had been working on the other systems specifically to the point when the other two systems were 'added'.

Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.

I don't miss it, personally. Should I?

phinehas

It might help if the graphics didn't look like balloon art.

What's the revolution? Civilization SNES works fine for me. This is just high-polygon crap with overblown cut scenes.

ablemancain

Thats messed up! Well I guess I'll have to get my Civ fix somewhere else. I do hope they come out with a Wii version though. Just not to far from the PS3/360 release.

3/9/2008+7 days=1 helluva week!!

Well Id still appreciate if they can consider continuing the project.

From the link though was an interesting read though.

Witzbold

"a money-making afterthought"

Way to go milk the cash cow called nintendo. It lactates money!!

DanteODiabo

Understandable, though a bit disappointing.

Stormrider

That makes a lot of sense...

tocatl

no surprises. Wii is getting shovelware from most developers, not finding time to work on it, and after they go belly up they hope nintendo systems will save them...

VakeroRokero

Understood.

myxylplyx

If they were only interested in porting it to the Wii as a quick way to make cash, I say good riddance.

BtownDesignGuy

@Irenicus-the one and only: Without a doubt, I'm going to buy this one, it just looks too much fun to pass up and despite the possibility of being a "dumbed down" version of the game from the PC, I have a feeling this would be quite worthwhile.

AndrewG009

Guys, you BETTER buy this game on the 360 and PS3 damn it! So I can get my Wii port :)

Irenicus-the one and only

@gmc: Yes, it is nice to see them being honest (the mistake was announcing it in the first place) but, again, it's not entirely their fault because they were caught up in the PS3/60 thing without realising that Wii would be a success. And incidentally, PS3/60 still has about 8 million more users than Wii worldwide (and will probably always remain higher when treated as a single platform, which it basically is).

Hopefully this kind of admission means that if they do develop a Wii game it will be done properly, not thrown together on the cheap. Not holding my breath though :)

quen

what does this say about the attitude of this games publishers/developers. It says "wii games are hanging on the edge of our budget, this one was just too crap to sell, but future, improved crap will be made"
So, crap confirmed for the wii by publishers then?
Nice to see them being honest for once.

gmc

Look,I'm not going to start a console war, but this is what happens when you make a console with a weird control scheme and outdated hardware. You Wii people should have known that the system was going to be good for Nintendo franchises and shovelware.

If the Wii port took any time away from development and made the 360/PS3 versions one iota inferior,I'm all for this decision.

CaptainBuzzKill

making a game isn't cheap, they say if it does well they will keep working on it. if it doesn't do well (I don't think it will go well with the hardcore as it seems a very "pc" game) no money for it...

VakeroRokero

@Stormrider:
I remeber reading the golden sun one but the Zelda spin off is news to me. We'll just see about that Kid Icarus one though, he is in brawl revival could be imminent.

jive238

@PaulHunter: That would make sense, considering they made the new model for Brawl.

Stormrider

@Stormrider: and a Kid Icarus! =)

IGN

PaulHunter

@Stormrider: I just realized the source is pretty old now, but I've definitely seen something more recently, I unfortunately can't find it now. I've also seen rumors of a Wii Star Fox in development.

Stormrider

@jive238: "We love RPGs a lot and we profoundly adore the universe we created with the Golden Sun series on GBA," he replied when he was asked if Camelot was making a Golden Sun sequel for consoles. "At the moment, though, it is impossible for us to share information on this subject with you and so our answer is neither yes nor no." Takahashi added that Camelot does have projects underway and that he expects it "will be able to show some new things at E3."
[en.wikipedia.org]

"1) Retro's next title is a Zelda spin-off, announcement could come around E3."
[softrockhallelujah.blogspot.com]

Stormrider

@Stormrider:
SAUCE! NAO! I must read these rumors with mine own eyes!!

jive238

@blurayforever143: I just don't understand your argument here. Are you saying the PS3 and 360 are eventually going to be outsell the Wii because those system will offer more original IPs?

If that's really the case, I'm perplexed. If you look at historical sales data, you'll quickly notice that franchise games generally are more profitable that original IPs.

PaulHunter

@blurayforever143: You mean the people who already own a wii and thus do not have to be persuaded to buy one? Those people?

Maybe nintendo is trying to broaden its appeal?

tickmenanny

@Falconfire: But who in the world wants the PS2 ports of Call of Duty and Burnout in comparison to the more expansive 360/PS3 versions? And Virtua Tennis never came out, and in all the interviews I've read, they've pretty much made it obvious that DMC4 isn't possible on PS2 without changing the gameplay mechanics.

Also, Virtua Tennis full console games have never been on any system except the Dreamcast and PS3/360.

blurayforever143

@tickmenanny:

I think it'd be wonderful if they released nothing but brand new games not based on their franchise series.

Would anyone really be happy about it though? How many people here can you quote saying "My Wii's gathering dust until Mario Galaxy comes out" or "It's just sitting there til Smash Brothers"

blurayforever143

Devil May Cry, of Call of Duty, of Virtua Tennis, and of Burnout

All games for the PS2 which WAS 1/4th as powerful as the Gamecube. The gamecube and xbox where FAR superior power wise but lacked the IPs. Whats funny in this is it took Sony a while to build up IPs for the ps2, i remember going a year before a decent PS2 game came out. Nintendo is going through the same problem now as people geared up to support the other systems not realizing people dont WANT those other system, hardcore players do, which is not where the profits are.

Falconfire

@PaulHunter: If you believe the rumors, Retro is also working on a Zelda spinoff of some kind, and Camelot might revive Golden Sun on the Wii.

Stormrider

@PaulHunter: How can a developer be secretive when you pretty much know what's coming each generation? The only thing they can do to surprise anyone is create a brand new game or really dig deep and remake something [beyond old] or release something way overdue..[mother 3, here's looking at you]

blurayforever143

@blurayforever143: So Nintendo shouldn't try to make new series? They should just churn out the hits? Is this bizarro land?

tickmenanny

@tickmenanny: I never said the new games aren't there or going to be there, but they don't define the reason the Wii sells out..."No More Heroes" and "Zack and Wiki" won't even sell half of what Wii fit or Wii sports [in Japan] sell.

I love Monolith, but their game is lost on most Wii owners.

blurayforever143

@blurayforever143: Are you being serious here? Nintendo is perhaps the most secret developer out there, they surely have plenty up their sleeves in the next 12 months. There's a new Kirby, new Animal Crossing, Wii Music, and Disaster. Plus I'm sure we can all anticipate some big game announcements at E3. How can you honestly believe Nintendo's not going to have another AAA title until the next Mario?

PaulHunter

@Falconfire:

Which games have I rambled off about that play on a system as 1/4th as powerful as the gamecube? Isn't 1/4 the power of a gamecube like a PSOne or something? Not even your little insult at the end makes any sense.

blurayforever143

@blurayforever143: Disaster: Day of Crisis. A new IP that you people beg for. And an "actual video game."

You are setting this whole thing up to be "my games are the ones that matter. Your games don't."

Guess what? Wiisports is the GTA3 of this generation, and there's nothing you can do about it.

tickmenanny

@blurayforever143: Sony elitist yet you ramble off about games that played on a system that was 1/4th as powerful as the GAMECUBE... which the Wii is twice as powerful as...

God your a idiot.

Falconfire

@tickmenanny:

Uh, I didn't mean "actual video games" as in "Wii games aren't video games", I meant in terms of the "console war"....the lifespan of the "next gen consoles" and the actual games that will be coming out for them. When Fable 2 and Halo Wars for 360 and FF XIII and Gran Turismo are hitting the PS3, don't you think it'll become pretty obvious what's not only the graphical limit, but gameplay limit, of the Wii as well?

Someone else said it here, that Nintendo released all their big games in one year [Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Metroid 3, Smash Brothers] just so that they could overlook at the gamer and market Wii fit for two years. Honestly, name me the next big nintendo game...Mario Kart, and then it's over until the next Mario or the next Zelda...which probably won't be until the end of the Wii's life cycle.

blurayforever143

@tickmenanny: I was thinking the exact same thing. Wow.

PaulHunter

you know it pisses me off that these developers cant look past fucking graphics. the whole POINT of Civ back in the day was the complex gameplay, not pretty pictures. If they had focused on that instead of the overpriced prettiness of the other systems they could have made a Civ game I would actually buy since the last decent one (Civ 2)

Oh well their loss.

Falconfire

@blurayforever143: "actual video games"

Some people are so elitist.

tickmenanny

I am terribly frustrated by this. Wii games should not be cash cow ports. It's completely ridiculous how a majority of the Wii games available are cheesy, terrible ports that do not appeal to the hardcore crowd at all. First of all, heavily ported games are usually not worth buying in the first place and second, IF one of these ports is worth buying, those who know gaming know to buy it for the 360 or PS3 because the Wii version will be some crappy, gimmiky, waggle filled clone. Third party games developed ground up for the Wii that developers care about and put time and effort into (No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki) are tremendous and very fun to play, however these are "sparkling diamonds in a dark, depressing sea of vomit". Developers need to realize this and put more effort into their Wii games. Ok I'm done, sorry for the lecture.

PaintedMidget

@Ampillion lives a life much like No More Heroes.: Agree with that. Now im really looking forward to the still alive ds version... :rollseyes

Thrillhaus

This might be what changes the "console war" apart from the mainstream sector [the mini game lovers who actually buy plastic tennis rackets and golf clubs for their wii remotes]

I mean, think of it, what does this article say? It pretty much says "we had to stop making this game for the Wii because it wouldn't look, sound, or play anything at all like the real thing" And the same could be said of Devil May Cry, of Call of Duty, of Virtua Tennis, and of Burnout..there's multiplatform games that just aren't possible on the Wii without being scaled down in every single aspect [even gameplay]

Once you get to the point where it becomes obvious that there's games you just can't play on the Wii, it'll be completely between the 360 and PS3 only. Sure, the Wii will stay on top because of that certain demographic..but in terms of actual video games and the long term, it'll be Sony and Microsoft to the very end..which is good for pretty much anyone...360 owners, PC gamers, and even Sony fanboys as myself.

blurayforever143

@YodaTuna: Tell that to zack & wiki.

rdj