I think the real question on everyone's mind is: will the Dreamcast make more money than the sealed copy of Chrono Trigger that went on ebay for over $1,000?

Fitz Rhapsody

i dont see how this is newsworthy at all. get a new sealed one on ebay for $100 or less. if it was a new sealed atari or NES, then we're talking

elislider

I actually have my DC hooked up to my DLP with an upscaler. Looks AWESOME in 1080i.

Knoxximus (360/PSN)

We are still going to be hearing ten years from now people still playing on their Dreamcast and still proclaiming it the best system in the world.

Guys, it's time has past, the pooch has been rightfully screwed. Man up, lick your wounds, and move on already.

PapaBear434

I wish there was a way to play my DC gun games on my LCD. I have HotD and a few others, and I would love to be able to still play them.

suburbancowboy

I loved my Dreamcast. I rented it at Hollywood Video with Sonic Adventure before it was released over the summer and instantly ordered an import DC from NCSX.com It was awesome.

I used to play New Japan Pro Wrestling all the time...Blue Stinger pretty much sucked! Reminds me of the dreamcast.net forums I used to visit all the time.

starscream1101

Its now up to 200 dollars. Methinks thou dost pay too much.

Scuba Steve

It wasn't THAT long ago when these were still in stores NIB for $30. They're $10 used. What's the big deal?

CZroe

One of my favourite systems. I love you Dreamcast me and you had some good hand shandies.

damienchowder

i see them at a local store for $35 regularly. i got rid of mine about 6 years ago. may pick up another someday for all those shooters.

moominsean

Any Dreamcast made before the final burst of production is technically worth considerably more than most old consoles when you factor in its unique "features". No cart game or subsequent disc based system is in any way as eternal as a working, pre-final revision DC.

NES, SNES, Genesis... Classics, all of them. But unless you have a childhood collection, buying yourself a retro console doesn't inherently mean much as you are reliant on locating and acquiring carts that still work in order to play your desired games. But say you find yourself with a Pre-Final Revision DreamCast? You can burn any game ever made for it onto a regular CD-R, officially released or not. Oh,and if you find yourself thinking DC games aren't retro enough for you, you can burn every Genesis game ever made onto a single CD-R as well. No modchips, no boot discs... Pure, unadulterated freedom.

Eventually all cart based games will break down, all discs will lose their data layer, and the legal means for enjoying these titles will have been lost to time. But... As long as a single Pre-FR DC survives, there will always be a system capable of effortlessly self sustaining those classics, and a system like that is worth a lot more than anyone on EBay is paying for it.

If you think the DC is seen as it is just because of its ridiculously high quality catalog, think again. The DC is a GOD among consoles because any retard with the system and a controller can immediately play any retro game they can remember. Heck, having memory problems? Make one up and play it homebrew. The DC is unholy, and that is why it gives me a chubby.

I could needlessly go into more detail and exaggerated description, but unfortunately I'll be too busy playing ANY GAME I WANT.

Shh, it's thinking.

BobbyMcPresscott

Dreamcast + VGA + 40"LCD-Screen + Soul Calibur = AMAZING!

I tried it out with a Friend some weeks ago and i dont know a PS2 or Wii-Game which looks as nice like this one on the big Screen. Really.

z3ntn3l

@Brian Crecente: I think what JC is getting at is that the console is neither that old, nor that rare (even as NIB). Great console but it's not as mind blowing a find as the other posts in the past.

Not to be rude, but I was a bit underwhelmed myself. I've got a sealed 32X and sealed Mega CD2 that I picked up for $20 from Goodwill not long ago, but I wouldn't rate that newsworthy either.

If anything though, I'm just amazed Goodwill has got into internet auctions.

Not_Matt

Actually, an internet retailer here in Sweden had new DCs for sale some years ago. Sold em' for a couple of bucks and said when they were out, they were out. Should've bought one :/

zlimness

NIB = New In Box

daisukeumon

@brieeyeball: "just as good (if not, better) than"

Damn, we really need an edit button.

brieeyeball

@QC8472: Do you still play PS2 games? Gamecube? Xbox? The Dreamcast was part of the same generation as all of those consoles. It came out before the PS2 and its early games look just as good (if not, better) than most later PS2 Titles.
The graphics aren't an issue at all, the games look fine by today's standards and they're still just as fun.

And yes, most models of the DC will run pirated games off of regular CD-Rs.

brieeyeball

Dreamcast was great, to bad about the easy piracy. It might have survived longer.

Pornosaur

Let's begin:'Dreamcast >>> PS2. If SEGA had done this and that, it would be so and so. SEGA titles where the critically acclaimed titles of the industry. Pushing boundaries and whatnot. And so on.

Fact of the matter is, I am currently playing my Half Life DC copy and have almost finished the game. But that's just me. The fact that this console still runs well, although it has a life death relationship with me, makes my investment, a month before SEGA lowered their price, so much worth it.

Jet Set

I have owned a few systems in my day. As each generation passed on, I would give up the previous to my brother to reduce clutter. Giving him my dreamcast was a huge mistake.

I have decided that if he ever needs a kidney, he already got enough of me. He's done. unless he gives me back by DC and my copy of worms.

chinasky

My Dreamcast hasn't been able to reliable read discs for many years.

bluesquareapple

Well now you just made me pull out my dreamcast. To the games!

Rebelphoenix83

This is cool because I assume the money will go to Goodwill, otherwise I would never waste my time. I still have my Dreamcast from 9/9/99 (best launch date ever) and it plays cd-rs.. uhh, I mean legal games just fine. Although the last game I did play on it years ago was a leaked copy of Half-Life 1 that was complete as far as I could tell and had all the right textures and sounds and played fine. I believe the story goes it was canceled because it was finished as the DC ship was going down; probably why we saw the game move to the PS2 instead. Heh I just checked and that exact cd-r is sitting peacefully in my unplayed but still working Dreamcast.

DeeBG

I gotta say, my mind went in a totally different direction when I saw "NIB" ... perhaps next time you could add a disclaimer for me and the rest of the Black Sabbath fans, so we don't get our hopes up for a Nativity-in-Black-themed Dreamcast. I mean, I have no idea how that would work, but that's where my mind went. Y'know.

tsathoggua

@Final: I love my DC. Sega actualy cared about making good games back then, now they are like EA, trying to shove stuff out the door before it's done.

Sinnbox

WOW hopefully that bidder is just trying to give to charity, There is on on Ebay with 30 min left to go for $93

Sinnbox

If only Sega had the balls to put a DVD player in the Dreamcast there'd be a four-way war instead of the the three-way we have today.

The DC had no equal in Fighting Games and RPGs.

I still blame Phantasy Star Online for my later WoW addiction... It was like a Gateway drug =/

Final

@Iss: not realy, the original "Duke" was like a Super fat version of the Dreamcast controler.

Sinnbox

Sigh. My Dreamcast that lived at my dad's house just wouldn't let me finish Shenmue. And that was a revolutionary game. I'm still sad about it.

mermaidkween

@Dakobah:

*facepalm*
Black Sabbath - N.I.B.
Listen to it... then go back to internet school to learn your acronyms.

gulp35

@ManekiNeko:

It's not like they have news constantly and say "well I think we'll put the Dreamcast article up, save the Kart article for later." They post news as it comes.

And personally I could care less about Mario Kart or Live arcade updates as it's just a spawning ground for "Wii is for kids" and "RRoD ZOMG 360 sucks"

NeoAkira

Slow news day, huh?

I like me some Dreamcast too, but a NIB system on an auction site really isn't something that deserves as much press as say, news on the next Super Mario Kart or the latest Xbox Live Arcade announcements.

ManekiNeko

@Jesus Christ: the dreamcast is worth any post, its the greatest system ever!

Mr.DuckSauce

The DC was awesome. I still think no game on the PS2 looks as good as Soul Calibur on the DC..

zztopp

They actually go for around 85 shipped quite frequently.

worthrepeating

Hate to burst your bubble but the DCast can be bought NIB on eBay for about 100 smackers.

GlompWorthyGamer

And yeah, when I first saw this article I was like "What? There was a Black Sabbath edition Dreamcast? I must have it."

dowingba

I never owned a Dreamcast but I've played them a bit. I, too, don't understand the rabid love so many people seem to have for it. Soul Calibur was awesome, yes. But Soul Calibur 2 was even better.

dowingba

@Masterpain22:

Bleemcast for MGS emulated audio very poorly to a point that I just tossed the disc. Tekken 3 was good, though the inclusion of the arcade version with the PS2 T5 rendered it useless.

SC aside, the other good fighters saw decent releases elsewhere later. Though nothing can replace Shenmue 1, and it sadly doesn't boot on my system.

SG79

My dreamcast is still in perfect condition, if there was one system that i will NEVER get rid of, it's the DC.

reptile168

dreamcast is love.

wish i had one :\

relax_guy

@jrghoull: it had many very good fighters that you couldn't find anywhere else, like SoulCalibur, MvC2, SF3, among others. So for fighter fans the system was great, and there were also other genres of games besides sports.

Also, for people who tried the bleemcast! with MGS1 you could play the game with way smoother graphics, which makes it a nice way to revisit the game before MGS4 comes out.

Masterpain22

I've been meaning to pick up some "new" games for my Dreamcast, but none of the local screwshops masquerading as game shops are selling anything of merit that I don't already have. I might have to start hitting up eBay (ugh) soon. Not sure where to start though... I feel like there was a Langrisser title for the DC, but I'm not sure. If it is, would anyone recommend it?

A friend and I were discussing fanboyism the other day, and I struggled to find something to which I lend a blind allegiance. No more. I am a complete and utter fanboy for Sega's swan song and I hope that never changes.

Intellectualdiot

Meh, bought my Dreamcast for like $60 at some shop that once existed on Astor place in Manhattan. Brand new.

I personally wouldn't kick my Dreamcast's ass on the curb anytime soon though. How the hell else am I going to get my JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fix without scouring about for the substandard Playstation version.

KeroseneClimax

jrghoul-
Yeah,Dreamcast had such a shitty,nonsports lineup.
Shenmue,Sonic Adventure 1-2,Virtua Fighter 3th,both Sega Fishing games,Sega Rally,Daytona,18 Wheeler American pro Trucker,Powerstone,TechRomancer,both Marvel Vs. Capcoms,Street Fighter III,Jet Grind Radio,Seaman,should I keep listing them? Next to Neo Geo,it's the best retro system to purchase.

kidnicky

'eh? This is rare? I got my Dreamcast NIB off eBay a few years ago for like $80 bucks.

...or at least I was told it was new. It had all the wrappings and stuff on it.

Mr. Fap☆Fap!

@RageKage:

New in Box

yah sounds like a band name.

Dakobah

@Nesagwa: Uh, the idea is to sell them so they can help the needy with the money they make. Or perhaps the needy can eat or clothe themselves with a game system?

relic1980

@Northernsky: did you practice martial arts in a park while you were there? I think the quote goes "let's get sweaty"

GUNLOC_MORIYM

@reddevil: The gamesave thing got me to thinking about Booyaka.com, so I went to check...sure enough, it's still up 0_0.

relic1980

Powerstone was awesome on Dreamcast, though sadly once everyone found out how easy it was to copy and burn games, that was the achellies heal.

floatnsink

Wow, strange timing, as I read this, I'm just taking a break from installing my internal VGA mod on my Dreamcast. I've been meaning to do it for something like 3 years now, and I just never got around to it. I figured it would be a good excuse to do it for college so I can save some space

LucasKane

When I remember how truely awesome Sega used to be and how they are now, I shed a tear. That whole Fable 2 XBLA integration? That was done ages ago with the VMU. Powerstone anyone? We were even able to make our own VMU community games. We had a web browser, and I played Quake III with a mouse and keyboard, as well as The Typing of the Dead.

I still think Chu Chu Rocket on XBLA would be boss! Or Hydro Thunder, Ready to Rumble (which EA is copying now), Cannon Spike, Re-Volt (A XBL test game) or a jillion other pick up and play games that were full of awesome that the Dreamcast had.

peacefuloutrage

@drew

"My Dreamcast is still running beautifully and Soul Calibur still looks great on it so I can attest to the longevity of the system."

sincerely, good luck with that.

cambridge

I still have a DC hooked up. I bought one on launch day that I loaned to my brother, and I never got back. I have a DC I won from Sega signed by Yuji Naka that I have never opened, so I decided to get a used one from Gamestop. It doesn't play any home-brew stuff like my 9/9/99 one, but I only played import games and NES games that way. I have over 60 retail games for it, which I may have to play more often now.

peacefuloutrage

@Brian Crecente: This is retro? Man, I'm older than I thought >_>;

Car2oon

@jabedoben: LOL

reddevil

Man I loved my DC (but the d-pad was awful). The introduction of the analog triggers was a great move.

One of the best aspects of the DC was the ability to go online to any site and directly download save files into the VMUs/mem cards. I remember importing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 because I badly wanted to play it...but then found out that to unlock all the characters you had to take the VMU to the arcades. But, lots of sites had save files with all characters unlocked. It was awesome...I don't know why you can't do the same with the Wii (I know you can download save files to SD cards and then transfer it to the Wii, but it's not the same thing).

reddevil

i just want it for Sega Bass Fishing! too bad no one has made a better fishing game than that, i wish XBLA would get that in their.

fresh1

Also reminds of the days of calling the FuncoLand a few miles away and asking "Hey! You guys got Seaman on your Dreamcast?" and hanging up.

jabedoben

"Vintage gaming systems"!? Barely a year has past since the last game release and you're calling it vintage!

floppylobster

awesome system, worst controller next to the jaguar...

SypherDiaz77

@bangbangblah:

The SNES / Genesis era is the reason most people play video games today.

Verum

how odd, my friend found a NIB dreamcast under his stairs the other day...

Dave Mahoye

Doesn't goodwill always have stuff like this? I usually see DC controllers there. I wonder why they just now decided to auction one of the thousands of retro consoles they see each year. Unless this dreamcast emits jedi mind tricks, forcing you to give everything you own to their store, but probably not.

Verum

Like Clara Peller said, "Where's the beef?!?". Just replace "beef" with "news".

phextin

No idea what NIB stands for, but it makes a killer song.

RageKage

new, used, really no difference for an optical drive-based system.

if you're interested in getting a DC, buy used, save money, and just clean the hand salsa off it with dish soap.

segaprophet

Launch DC still working for me too, would be nice to get a backup thought in case the laser burns out or something. *resumes playing Skies of Arcadia*

SDreamer

@jabedoben: I dunno. Saturn / ps1 / 64 was pretty gigantic over the Genesis / SNES era.

bangbangblah

I love my dreamcast. Someday I need to get it from my old house and bring it up to college. Three months a year isn't enough!

bangbangblah

Ah. Years from now, a Goodwill in Peoria will run an auction for an NIB Xbox 360 and Hd dvd addon, and we will sigh long suffering sighs, and place our bids.

balgeary

@Sherlock_the_Barbarian:

it was ahead of its time in terms of hardware, but had terrible software (almost nothing but sport games)

(shrugs) interesting combo is all...

jrghoull

Ah the 'ol Dreamcast, what could have been...

I was a store manager for FuncoLand when this thing released on 9/9/99. I'll never forget receiving our first demo unit a month or so before it launched, as the collective mouth of every person in the store dropped when Sonic Adventure booted up. NFL2K had the same effect.

Definitely the largest leap in graphic power between console generations.

jabedoben

There are about 20 new DC systems on Ebay right now. They are pretty much all from the same guy (who has been selling them forever), but his feedback is good.

I love my DC. Everyone here should have this system, it is a true gamers console.

thinkfreemind

i'd wager a dollar that my dream cast still works. I enjoy the irony that while i'm pretty sure my dc is working fine and dandy, that my original xbox gave way a couple of years ago...f*ing RROD

of course to be fair, my xbox got used quiet a bit...though as a dvd player

i'm still peeved about that...it worked fine for a few years and then it clonked out...i would have loved to have installed that xbox media center on it..

jrghoull

**found an

we need to be able to edit.

Rurik

I bought an old DC at a pawn shop while at my grandparents for $20. It runs great.

Side note: at the same pawn shop my cousin found and in box (had been opened) Atari Jaguar.

Rurik

@Nesagwa: You obviously have no clue what Goodwill is about. Try doing a bit of research before you shoot off your mouth. [www.goodwill.org]

Luis

My launch system still works perfectly and gets regular use!

JesseLacey

On the off-chance that my DC ever dies, I made sure to have backups. I now own four of the consoles. Definitely one of the greatest consoles of all time.

Atheist Jew

they have a sega cd system on the site too

jmgiv

Didn't care for it back in 1999. What makes you think I care for it now!

candyman261

Say...

is there any reasons still, in 2008, to get the dreamcast?
Are the games that good? are the graphics still acceptable? (let's be honest, most N64 games are not fun anymore because they are hard to look at; same goes for ps1)
Because... under 100 for a brand new sealed system... max 30$ for a controller + memory.. and I think the system even accepts burned DVDs (or is it CDs). It would be a good deal, if it really is as good as everyone says.

any opinions?

QC8472

Oh Man. Memories of Street Fighter Alpha and Marvel vs. Capcom...Sword of the Berzerk...Ikaruga...yesss...

Redface, The Dark Messiah of Justice

@NessD12:
Does playing burned games make it worse? I've never done anything like that with my Dreamcast (same can't be said for my Xbox or PSP...)as I love it far too much!
I don't want to know the number of hours I spent playing PSO on that little 33.3k modem...
I even went to Yokosuka because I loved Shenmue so much...

...

That's it, I'm getting my Dreamcast out again tomorrow...

Northernsky

Hopefully with games like Street Fighter 4, fighting games will make some sort of comeback. Soul Calibur was amazing at the time.

JohnnyD57333

@Northernsky: It was fairly common but. Dreamcasts usually last a fairly decent time as long asyou don't play burned games on em

NessD12

When did Goodwill turn into ebay? What a scam that place is. They take these items as DONATIONS and sell them for profit. And not even a meager one anymore. The internet has even ruined thrift stores.

The mind set that our items are worth everything and yours are worth nothing has completely warped the concept of value in this country.

Nesagwa

What is this fetish people have with the Dreamcast? I have a Dreamcast and enjoyed it in its day, but there was nothing particularly spectacular about it.

Sherlock_the_Barbarian

I love my dc, best system ever. Unfortunately it got murdered by EA. Which was kind of a good thing because sega created the nfl2k series since they lacked madden.... unfortunately EA murdered that too..

Did peter moore have something to do with the xbox controller since he was employed under sega during the dc years?

snakepliskin

@Masterpain22:
Hmm, perhaps it's not as common as I thought then. It was a real pain in the ass though...

Northernsky

@Iss: yea except the button layouts and the shape of the controller are similar, u cant say microsoft wasn't inspired at all by its design, couldn't be mere coincidence

giant_chibi

"I can attest to the longevity of the system."

Of your system anyway. One of my friends went through 3 of these before just giving up. Man, everytime I hear about the Dreamcast I think of the new Bangai Oh.

gamadaya

@Northernsky: has never happened to me. Maybe they fixed the problem by the time they got to end of the system's life, who knows, but it works great.

Masterpain22

I got my DC in my local tesco for €10. Only the box was in the bargain bin so they had to go in the back to get its contents. It took them like 20 minutes to return and they had so much stuff it was laughable. Not only did I get all I was supposed to get in the box, I got some random cables, a memory card reader for a pc and xbox controller. They admitted they weren't sure what to give me so they just gave me the lot. :)

Verge

@Jesus Christ: Why not? We post about retro auctions quite a bit.

Brian Crecente

I just wanted to add that I electrocuted myself while fixing my Dreamcast FAR too many times... Totally worth it though!

Northernsky

Reliable?
There was quite a common problem where they'd keep restarting themselves, you had to bend the pins on the mainboard to connect to the power supply better to fix it...

Northernsky

This reminds me i need to pick up a backup dreamcast soon. I know my gd-rom is going to crap out soon.

t0yrobo

I got mine when the system price dropped to $50, I went straight to BestBuy to get it and from there to EBgames for a copy of MvC2. I had a great weekend.

I still have it connected to the tv in my living room, that's how good and reliable the system is.

Masterpain22

@giant_chibi:
That's like saying Mountain Dew ripped off V8-Splash.

Iss

i love my dc :). it's always hooked up.

push eject

i never had a dreamcast, but after seeing the image of its controller, i realize that microsoft's original xbox controllers completely ripped this off

giant_chibi

Ack. If someone sold my Dreamcast I'd have to kill them in the most brutal way possible. :]

Old-school Sonic fanboy

EWWWW.... Dreamcast.... Majora's Mask is soooooo much better....

Iss

Was this really worth an entire post (not trying to be a dick or anything)?

Jesus Christ

@mywhitenoise: i dont know about 30 but yeah.. i bought my gf a brand new last gen dreamcast for christmas this past year for 60 something. ive seen more on there since then, now u know what would be crazy? a genesis nib.. i got a turbo grafx 16 nib in 2001.

shouryuuken

@Dopeski: If it works that's an alright deal. I paid 50 for mine about 4 years ago. Came with a racing wheel 2 controllers 2 vibration backs 3 vmu's and a few games.

NessD12

MvC I have trouble running it. It takes FOREVER to get that thing to start, but once it does it's cool.

Sailorcancer

yah NIB would suggest shrink wrapped.

which would bring more cash value.

since its opened its "like new" condition

not so much. but cool regardless.

Dakobah

I wish I could find stuff like this at the good will store in my town.

and alos off topic: Hey Drew!

Tzero7

Funny, I was about to buy a used Dreamcast just yesterday. I wasn't sure if 40 dollars was a good deal though. :-(

Dopeski

Some poor boys dream was donated away..

xpnet

Nice steal, but I hope that grown-up Jimmy isn't missing his console when he gets home this spring :D

Knight-Zero

NRFB NRFB!

bob-e

Looks like he took it out of the box for the auction.

You can get these for $30 regularly on ebay.

mywhitenoise

This is horribly tempting. Good thing I'm in the UK so I can't get it regardless ^_^

Sam

RIP dreamcast RIP

freespeech

My launch Dreamcast broke, so I ran to a used-games store in town and bought two used ones to replace it. One for my younger siblings and another for me. Now that I think about it I might need to get a couple more just to be safe. If there is one console I want to keep forever the Dreamcast is it.

arroyjose